Coming and cumming.

[Kimiko]

Okay, I have a semi-serious literary question. I'm constantly at war with myself about the verb "to cum", and the noun "cum". When I first started writing this stuff, I used those words, because it seemed like it was the norm. But then it started to feel affected and stilted, so with this latest bunch of stories, I changed everything to "come" and "coming". It just seems more....I don't know, professional?

Occasionally, I even see the past tense rendered as "I cummed", "you cummed", "she done cummed".

I don't know about you, but I came, I saw, I conquered.

So, do you folks have any clear preference on this vital subject?

[Nympho]

Yeah, if you are speaking about the action, 'cum' is the right word to use. Some people may get confused if you use 'come'.

You can also use 'cum' in a pun (if it works right).

[Rain]

I prefer to see cum, cumming, came.

[tpkg09]

Most women from my experience luv to watch cum shoot!

[HappyText]

:arrow: I had the same question...hehe

[Archaic]

I prefer come for the verb. "I came so hard I sprained my scapula". Cum, to me is a noun, "He shot cum all over my Louie Vitan I-Pod". I would never used cummed just like I would never say comed, "I never did cummed cuz I'm iliterate".

Of course I am the guy who cannot understand how 'disrespect' has now managed to occupy every available part of speach.

Only 'fuck' should be aloud to do that.

"You FUCK (n), I'm going to fucking (adv) fuck (v) your fucking (adj) brains out for coming all this cum all over my Louis Vitan I-Pod and making me sprain my scapula.

Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

[bladeway]

yeah...what he said!

thanks Archaic...you managed to capture that well. but i don't really care as a reader one way or another. I mean, cum on, who really cares?
-blade-

[Furred Goddess]

I prefer come, coming, came. Cum makes it sound unintelegent to me. Cum sounds like something scribbled on a bathroom wall.

[shaun056]

I use cum as a noun ('Dribbling cum fell from her pussy') and come as a present tense verb ('I am comimg all over her tits') and came as a past tense verb ('I came all over her tits'). What about future tense? Well if you wanted to put that in its come ('I will come all over her tits')

The word cum/cumming, obviously, stems from the word come. It originated on the internet funnily enough with people having cybersex so its basically a form of text speak. At least I think it is I may be entirely wrong. I don't know what was used instead of cum (n) before text speak arrived.

Enough with the English/History lesson

[Invisible]

Having just searched my story (its WIP, so not posted anywhere yet) to see what I used... it turns out, I haven't used either at all.

There are lots of alternatives that sound more professional. For example:

She came hard => She had a big orgasm
He came on her breasts => He ejaculated on her breasts
Cum dripped from her pussy => Semen dripped from her pussy.

I guess its personal preference, and depends on the tone of the story though.

[Invisible]

I try to vary the words I use, but no, it doesn't read like something medical. I was just saying that "cum" isn't the only word to use. Even if I did use it, I would (at least try) to avoid using it exclusively.

Another example then:

He came on her breasts => He ejaculated on her breasts => He squirted hot juices onto her breasts.

[Invisible]

While thats true to a certain extent, thats not the only audience I'm writing for. Someone who is reading it as, to put it simply, an alternative to picture-porn probably wont notice conciously, but then, if I wrote the other way the people who were looking to read it as a story would notice.

Still, its up to you, write your stories the way you like them, and I'll write mine the way I like them, and the way the feedback I've had so far says these people like them. I know its a limited audience, but I dont want to upload something unfinished.

[Kimiko]

I agree that it's important to vary the vocabulary, and I don't do enough of that, because some words sound sexier to me than others. I use the words "penis" and "vagina" precisely because I get tired of overworking "cock" and "pussy". Similary:

come, semen, sperm, ejaculate, juice, jizz, sauce, etc.

shoot, spurt, erupt, burst, pulse, pump, flourish, leap, explode, etc.

I know people are just reading and stroking, but I want to appeal to their intellect a little bit while they're getting off. It's better that way.

[Archaic]

Xyber, I have to say TO ME it is important. Writing stories is a craft. I try to practice the craft as professionaly as I can, and I expect the same of others. Simplistic, under written stories are boring and repetitive and do nothing for me. A really good story is one that you can not only jack off to while you read it, but can continue to fantasize about long afterwards.

[Rain]

Xyber, I have to say TO ME it is important. Writing stories is a craft. I try to practice the craft as professionaly as I can, and I expect the same of others. Simplistic, under written stories are boring and repetitive and do nothing for me. A really good story is one that you can not only jack off to while you read it, but can continue to fantasize about long afterwards.

Exactly. You can tell in the first couple of lines if the story is well written. If not, I usually quit reading it.

[lockey]

Xyber, I have to say TO ME it is important. Writing stories is a craft. I try to practice the craft as professionaly as I can, and I expect the same of others. Simplistic, under written stories are boring and repetitive and do nothing for me. A really good story is one that you can not only jack off to while you read it, but can continue to fantasize about long afterwards.

Exactly. You can tell in the first couple of lines if the story is well written. If not, I usually quit reading it.

well put, but some stories just come off as childish if certain words are over used. I personally have no preference, because I know what the author is talking about if you read the content/image trying to be made.

[Kimiko]

Very interesting distinction, AB. As it turns out, what prompted the original question was my browsing some erotica down at Barnes & Noble one day. Most "main stream" erotica seems to use "come", while the raunchier porn always uses "cum". So I guess you're onto something.

[Archaic]

She usually is. Now if we can just get her writing again. . .

[Kimiko]

I know, what's up with that? Ashley, if you're reading this, get to work!

[BoldMan]

I think a variety of terms to express the concepts is needed to avoid constant repetition which just comes across as lack of imagination. I pride myself on having an extensive vocabulary and like to use it - okay that may be a little conceited of me, waggling my intellect instead of my penis :D

In my mind writing a story - ANY story, is a work of poetry of sorts. Using the right word at the right time IS important, and if you are trying to turn someone on it is EVEN more important!

"She pulled her knickers down"
"She removed her lingerie"

Which sounds more erotic?

As for cum and come, I personally don't tend to use either - I really prefer the words orgasm or climax. If I do use these words, I believe I used come as a verb and cum as a noun.

[Archaic]

A B, purgatory is not all that bad once you get used to the noise and the hot weather. Come on back, me and Dante are saving you a seat in the sun, we've got Mai Thais. . .

[Kimiko]

Okay, BoldMan, I'll bite, which one IS more erotic?

Personally, not being a Brit, I could never write "knickers" in a story with a straight face. There are times, on the other hand, when removing one's lingerie would be just perfect.

[Archaic]

Neither. . .or both. Its like everything else that you want to be black or white Boldman, within context either answer could be right.

You cannot, absolutely CAN NOT pigeonhole something like eroticism. There are writers on this site that can make your stomache go aflutter with slow seductive writing, and there are writers who can make your heart pound with raw frenzied fucking (There are a few who can do both).

Trying to catagorically state that one is better than the other is just trying to project your personal opinion.

[dank]

Interesting. Most of the guys like cumming, and most of the girls like coming. Myself, I agree that 'cum' should only be a noun.

[william]

I am a fairly intelligent person and a great reader, everything from classics to the latest bestsellers. I also love to read erotic stories.
Don't be so sure about words like penis, vagina, etc., I do not want to read medical jounals. My favorite porn writer uses cock, dick, cunt, pussy, cum, cumming, etc. in great profusion. Same for "she pulled down her knickers," or "lingerie,"--I would much prefer "she ripped off her panties."

[Katie Girl]

I am a fairly intelligent person and a great reader, everything from classics to the latest bestsellers. I also love to read erotic stories.
Don't be so sure about words like penis, vagina, etc., I do not want to read medical jounals. My favorite porn writer uses cock, dick, cunt, pussy, cum, cumming, etc. in great profusion. Same for "she pulled down her knickers," or "lingerie,"--I would much prefer "she ripped off her panties."

And I prefer erotic . . . I want to feel characters and their connections to one another . . . . Regarding "She ripped off her panties" (Did the panties truly RIP or is it a bad cliche?)

[Archaic]

Nice panties are really expensive. . .

[Katie Girl]

Nice panties are really expensive. . .

Yeah . . . That's why I don't wear 'em. :oops:

[Katie Girl 2]

yeah...what he said!

thanks Archaic...you managed to capture that well. but i don't really care as a reader one way or another. I mean, cum on, who really cares?
-blade-

I know this has nothing to do with the posted topic, but I'm thinking about being that girl in your avatar!

[Frederick]

I like my porn to be raunchy. I read it to get an erection (that leads to the use of 'hardon') and keep it up for a while. I'm 78 and don't have orgasms that much anyway, even with the pills. But I do like my porn to be passionate. All the literary tricks like scene setting, use of technical terms instead of words which excite me, like cum, panties, knickers (I'm an expat Brit) tend to distract from the main purpose which is getting and keeping an erection. I often read the stories with a random selection of pictures from my extensive porn library going on at the side in a separate window.