Hot Lady Storywritters

[oldwino]

First I don't know what all the buttons at the top do andam afraid to try them.
Over the last fifty years of reading erotic stories I have decided that women write the hottist nasties stories. Think of the Story of O. Onxnxx the nasties stories are from women; eg Magpie Amie and that new hottie Jackie(dance). I don't think a man can come close to the wicked mind of a hot wowen in bdsm, humiliation. rape, animal sex and more things that my perverted mind couldn't imagine.
I would make a hot demand (A)of my late wife, when we were first dating in the seventies. Maybe to go pantie and braless under the brief sher dresses of the early seventies. Se would give in if I didn't make her do (B.) show her pussy in Public. Of course I demanded B and she gave in if she didn't have to do C. By time we were at M>N & O we were well past anything. I could imagine. Women just have this hot nasty imagination that men can't come close to.
hope I read a lot of feedback from this.

[Caffeine]

Okay.



I bet a lot of those hot stories come from men pretending to be women, too, buddy.

[RUSTY RUSTY]

[quote=Caffeine;89477]Okay.


I'll second that Caffeine you probable are so right



I bet a lot of those hot stories come from men pretending to be women, too, buddy

[Fanfiction]

Okay.



I bet a lot of those hot stories come from men pretending to be women, too, buddy.


Agreed.

One of the best lezo stories I ever read was by a guy writing like a woman.. REALLY its was very hot. I forgot he was a guy writing (unless he was a woman?..TMF! lol:) )
But most times I find women don't get smutty enough.. I WILL give you this though.. when they DO.. yes.. then it can be hot..

I mean its a personal taste.. but by the time we are FUCKING.. I want to be on a foken rollercoaster.. blaring sirens, strobe lights, being slapped across the face.. you know.. one word about.. "he touched me tenderly on my private area" or something at that moment and I'm like.. grrroooaaaaaaaaan.. c'mon lady.. this is no time for being coy!.. well.. ok, I'm a smutty bastard, but maybe some folk will know what I mean..

So as a generalization, I could never make the statement of the first poster concerning women porn writers. (for male readers) and think men pretending to be women may indeed write the best porno.

(obviously I don't include the women writers whom read this post here at XnXX since you know.. I get the cold shoulder bad enough already. So.. like Kimiko.. she could read me Walt Whitman and I'd have to go beat off.. hehehe :mrgreen: )

[jimfox]

Stories with female authors (or males pretending to be females) do present in a different way to those from male authors. I think both can be very erotic / smutty / bestial / hardcore etc etc but they do read differently.
I would like to bet that long standing readers of porn (no pun intended) such as Kimiko or Fanfiction seem to be, would be able to identify stories with a female name as authors before they were given the name.

[Fanfiction]

You're right there is a quality. But its a blurred line. I like women porn writers. Don't think I don't. I just don't think.. as the first poster seemed to imply, that they are the better writers of porn for male readers in general.

I WISH they were mind you.

But male's know the male mind for fantasy that little bit better dare I suggest, like a woman knows how to make a pussy swoon better in real life if she applied herself. They know the equipment.

Now I know I'm digging a hole here. But often I do feel a reservation in a porn story from a woman, at a point I feel a man would have been like
"FUCK YEAH BITCH.. EAT MY CUM YOU FUCKING CUNT whore.. lick the sour sweat off my balls you fucking PIG!!!

where at the same point a woman would have said something a little less direct or so.. that is as fine a point as I can say.. but again.. I love women writing porn.. and again.. I'm a smutty bastard.. that's not a turn on to all men..so.. I think I already said that. hehehhe:D

[Kimiko]

You're right there is a quality. But its a blurred line. I like women porn writers. Don't think I don't. I just don't think.. as the first poster seemed to imply, that they are the better writers of porn for male readers in general.

I WISH they were mind you.

But male's know the male mind for fantasy that little bit better dare I suggest, like a woman knows how to make a pussy swoon better in real life if she applied herself. They know the equipment.

Now I know I'm digging a hole here. But often I do feel a reservation in a porn story from a woman, at a point I feel a man would have been like
"FUCK YEAH BITCH.. EAT MY CUM YOU FUCKING CUNT whore.. lick the sour sweat off my balls you fucking PIG!!!

where at the same point a woman would have said something a little less direct or so.. that is as fine a point as I can say.. but again.. I love women writing porn.. and again.. I'm a smutty bastard.. that's not a turn on to all men..so.. I think I already said that. hehehhe:D

Ooooh, is this a challenge? ;)

[Fanfiction]

Ooooh, is this a challenge? ;)

:) Hmmm.. its a provocative, yet problematic proposition.

One the one hand, I could potentially offend a lovely lady I admire.:(
And on the other, I'd get to say extremely filthy things to a lovely lady I admire.:twisted:

[Zorkian]

I think male porn writters are the better ones because they LOVE porn SOOOOOOOO much that they can't telling all they want in a good SCREW!. like when a man screams " FUCK YES BITCH" and slaps the girl across the face for nothing. He can tell you what he feels when random slapping occur.


Oh yeah men pretending to be women? How freakish is that?

[XENA]

just why in hell do you think men can write better porn or better anything than women.
True fact is:



THEY CAN'T

[jimfox]

So are you now going to post a story Xena? :)

[Caffeine]

just why in hell do you think men can write better porn or better anything than women.
True fact is:



THEY CAN'T


Better is subjective. Maybe if you used the word "dirtier" you'd be more acute in questioning his thoughts.

[dank]

Ha-ha! What a thread! How about examples of gender differences?

I'll offer one...

Female writer: He pulled her against him, trapping his arousal between them and sending chills through her entire body as his sensuous tongue ravaged her mouth.

Male writer: Digging his rough hands into her ass cheeks, he pulled her tightly against him, roughly shoving his rock-hard cock against her soft belly as he hungrily forced his tongue deep into her mouth.

Any more examples??? This could be fun, guys and gals!

[Kimiko]

The implication is that women write soft-core and men write hard-core, but I don't think you can generalize like that. I personally don't have any problems writing about cocks and cunts and fucking. I do think, though, that some women have more trouble getting into the whole brutal male power-trip thing in their writing, and some men have more trouble writing about romance and emotions.

[Fanfiction]

The implication is that women write soft-core and men write hard-core, but I don't think you can generalize like that. I personally don't have any problems writing about cocks and cunts and fucking. I do think, though, that some women have more trouble getting into the whole brutal male power-trip thing in their writing, and some men have more trouble writing about romance and emotions.

Well observed.

And, I suggest that would be a testable proposition.
However, I for one am willing to accept it on faith.

I'm almost certain a female writer should know more about other females minds when it comes to romance, than most (straight) men would. In the same way I tend to believe a male should have the facility to understand the fantasy of porn for men.

Often I think women leave crude descriptions out of their writing perhaps because, for a woman, certain feelings are so obvious to the female mind, giving often undue credit to the less endowed male brains around her, they don't need to be illustrated. Whereas for men whom are far less subtle and generally less articulate, he may need to have cruder, simpler, more brutal descriptions for his mind to understand the actions better in a fantasy situation. (while reading)

IMO.. male readers are generally less endowed with reading skills than women readers. Less able to understand descriptions of emotions, and need details as a constant bombardment during the sex descriptions or they will quickly loose the feel for it. I dare say this is why brutality and extreme filth help keep a male reader to his task of reading. Simple, strong, primitive emotions used at the right times.

Look to recurring comments on stories like:
To long, took to long to get to the sex,
To much details, didn't describe the female just before the sex
and so on.

To me, such statements are almost always from men, who are in a rush to the sex descriptions, are incapable of remembering the details the author has crafted into the work that should have hopefully ended in a more interesting story and so on.

And for those that need me to state it clearly;

I'm NOT saying women can't think dirty or come up with wonderfully wicked ideas for REAL or written sex.

Ipso facto: Are less sexy, or can't write as well, or some demeaning statement.

I had a younger girlfriend when I was 19 who thought of things I never had, and she was a wellspring of such stuff. Even more highly sexed than I, at that age, which was pretty scary. And I rather imagine the first poster was eluding to that sort of thing in his remarks.

[Caffeine]

This thread is making me want to write a story. The main reason I didn't submit last time was because I was intimidated by a well-thought out story I read with lots of character development and heart. I'm a dude interested in feelings more than grit. Then again, I'd love to write a really raunchy scene as well.

I think more internal thought and emotion and less "hardcore" writing makes more a more thought-provoking story. I know I'm not the only one who likes to be stimulated in other areas than the penis.

I need to focus on writing stories and not on talking the forum.

[Fanfiction]

I was intimidated by a well-thought out story I read with lots of character development and heart. I'm a dude interested in feelings more than grit. Then again, I'd love to write a really raunchy scene as well.

I think more internal thought and emotion and less "hardcore" writing makes more a more thought-provoking story. I know I'm not the only one who likes to be stimulated in other areas than the penis.

Agreed.

The problem is as you know, it seems the majority of readers want like..

Describe a sex scene from the first line.. just sex.. NOW.. IF you could manage to weave a great story into that sex action.. well.. all fine and dandy.. so yeah, it doesn't help when you get a decent idea for a fantasy think piece or so, and get told..

Fuck that was boring shit.. all those details. and talking... LOL:rolleyes:

That's the frustration I guess. Do your homework, develop a story and its characters etc and get a kick in the ass for it. Write a fuckfest.. here the howls of dissatisfaction from those who like a sex story.

Shit! Why the former bother to read I have no idea. Go for pics or a fuck clip. Personally, I love a story for the story. Its hot to think I know something about the characters before they get screwed. I actually think this sort of open, free to net posting is good for some things.. BUT.. I defiantly feel someone who had to PAY for a novella will want a more though discourse and establishment of the characters, plot and so on.

[Kimiko]

What complicates all this is the question of who you are writing FOR (i.e. who is your target audience. When I'm writing things for xnxx, I generally don't feel like I'm writing for women. If I was, I'd probably do it differently. Most people here who read what I write are men, so I try to appeal to male fantasies, as well as I'm able to understand them.

[bigbird]

What complicates all this is the question of who you are writing FOR (i.e. who is your target audience. When I'm writing things for xnxx, I generally don't feel like I'm writing for women. If I was, I'd probably do it differently. Most people here who read what I write are men, so I try to appeal to male fantasies, as well as I'm able to understand them.

Don't go coy - you understand them bloody well

[Fanfiction]

What complicates all this is the question of who you are writing FOR (i.e. who is your target audience. When I'm writing things for xnxx, I generally don't feel like I'm writing for women. If I was, I'd probably do it differently. Most people here who read what I write are men, so I try to appeal to male fantasies, as well as I'm able to understand them.

:) And you do it excellently.

You did make me think:

I wonder if a sub section for "women's" or "women's erotica" would be a benefit in the story section?

I don't know how much different the stories would be.

However, the concept of "porn for women" is not new in the porn industry, and I have even seen posts on this very site asking for men and women in more emotionally charged pictorial scenes (like newly weds etc.)

There is a comedy show here in AU made by all female writers an actors. I love it because its marvelous to catch a glimpse of how the female mind is working in comedy. I can't even explain exactly what the subtle differences are, just that I know they are there, and I love the differences. I dare say a lot of men would enjoy porn stories written more for a woman's mind for the same reasons, apart from the fact that they would be highly erotic to both sexes in any case.

[windsnake]

Perhaps a collaboration with a male and female writer would yield an ultimate sex story pleasing for both sexes; stimulating the male need for vivid descriptions and tantalizing to the female psyche. I would love to read such a collaboration born from the minds of Kimiko and Fanfiction. :mrgreen:

[Bukkake Bunny]

This is an interesting thread for me, mainly because I just started writing a story and am running into some of these very difficulties myself. The extent of my pornographic sex writing experience is long, drawn-out cyber-sex sessions with women who liked to avoid words like "cock" and "pussy" etc., and preferred to emphasize just how they were feeling during each moment of the scene, both physically and emotionally. Thus, I tend to think I've developed a more female perspective on sex writing which, to me (at times) is unsatisfying to my baser male instincts.

That said, the type of story I'm writing isn't just a "wham, bam, thank you, ma'am" approach to a sex story. As I mentioned in my thread "Story!", it's more of a story with sex in it, so although, like Caffeine mentioned, I want to include down-and-dirty hot fucking with lots of cum and sweat and piss and blood and whatever (exaggerating), it sometimes seems... inappropriate. Hmm.

[Fanfiction]

Perhaps a collaboration with a male and female writer would yield an ultimate sex story pleasing for both sexes; stimulating the male need for vivid descriptions and tantalizing to the female psyche. I would love to read such a collaboration born from the minds of Kimiko and Fanfiction. :mrgreen:

:) Thank you for a very perceptive, and well meant note.

Mmmmm.. A collaboration between one of the most sublime Goddesses to ever grace the XNXX firmament, and the most lowly, loathsome serpent that slithers through its threads.

I seem to recall reading about a similar collaboration that happened long ago, in a perfect garden.

So. I could offer her an apple, but in hindsight, perhaps she wouldn't take it. However, I'll grant you this: I think our fruit might cause a lump in readers throats, along with other places Adam failed to mentioned.:D

[xyious]

you're all wrong, you shouldn't make broad generalizations.
(and now just to take the joke too far) in general women have a better imagination.

now for the serious response.
as kimiko said, audience is the main factor here, besides the obvious 'it's a matter of taste'.
some people like 'nasty' language, some don't. i suppose it's mostly women who don't, but i wouldn't want to make that statement.
so what's left after the language and thus taste issue ? the imagination.
as a comedian recently put it, 'if you don't understand a guy, chances are.... you're thinking to hard'. now obviously the male mind is reasonably simple. thus i can't actually see a girl, who actually tries, be too far off in describing what a guy thinks in a given situation.

so i'm just going to make a statement here that .... girls who like all the things that the (male) reader likes write better stories than the *average* male.

[slider113]

my 2 cents worth, women are better writer due to the fact that know the oohhss and aahhs and the please don't and what forth. men just input where they think is needed. :cool:

[Raquel]

Hmmm... Maybe I should write a story. If I did would any of you guys read it?:p

[Tarzan80]

I would definitely read it!

[Fanfiction]

Hmmm... Maybe I should write a story. If I did would any of you guys read it?:p

go'rn, trot it out ;) :)

[dew me]

Raquel I would read your stories and return to you some of my own

[MusicMachine]

you're all wrong, you shouldn't make broad generalizations.

Funny.:p

[Jmt]

Okay, I’ve read this entire thread and it makes my head hurt. Not the head that thinks for me most of the time, but the one on my shoulders.

Christ can I get a “Goodies Headache Powder” from one of you NASCAR fans?

Pick your target reader and get into their heads before you write. Remember that the main purpose of such a site as this is to get off! Yes my dear friends it’s all about what I call “Stroke Factor”

If your story is sufficiently crude enough it will garner high votes from the male demographic say a Flesch-Kincaid grade level of 2.5-6.0 anything higher than that and you are appealing to female readers.

Now that being said, who cares if you are a female or male writer trying to create a story from either point of view?

If you like to write, just challenge your self to write in first person from both perspectives. I have attempted to write first person stories as a female and a male. I can’t say that I managed to pull off the female version all that well but it made me stop and think really hard about what a woman might be feeling during sex?

This in turn paid off when I adjusted my game using this frame of mind. I don’t mean that in the “Grunt Grunt” Me Man you Woman sense….but trying to understand being on the opposite side of the fence can pay you guys many rewards, if you take the time and try to understand the female perspective on sex, which is more emotionally driven than our own physical addictions and needs and incorporate that into your writing….you could possibly appeal to more readers….meaning more stroke factor for all!

Now in retrospect I must admit that I have never tried to fake I was a female writer, and in spite of my bio someone still sent me a feedback of how much they loved what a slut I was?

If only we could harness the power of alcohol we could rule the world.

Jmt

[Fanfiction]

Okay, I’ve read this entire thread and it makes my head hurt. Not the head that thinks for me most of the time, but the one on my shoulders.

Christ can I get a “Goodies Headache Powder” from one of you NASCAR fans?

Pick your target reader and get into their heads before you write. Remember that the main purpose of such a site as this is to get off! Yes my dear friends it’s all about what I call “Stroke Factor”

If your story is sufficiently crude enough it will garner high votes from the male demographic say a Flesch-Kincaid grade level of 2.5-6.0 anything higher than that and you are appealing to female readers.

Now that being said, who cares if you are a female or male writer trying to create a story from either point of view?

If you like to write, just challenge your self to write in first person from both perspectives. I have attempted to write first person stories as a female and a male. I can’t say that I managed to pull off the female version all that well but it made me stop and think really hard about what a woman might be feeling during sex?

This in turn paid off when I adjusted my game using this frame of mind. I don’t mean that in the “Grunt Grunt” Me Man you Woman sense….but trying to understand being on the opposite side of the fence can pay you guys many rewards, if you take the time and try to understand the female perspective on sex, which is more emotionally driven than our own physical addictions and needs and incorporate that into your writing….you could possibly appeal to more readers….meaning more stroke factor for all!

Now in retrospect I must admit that I have never tried to fake I was a female writer, and in spite of my bio someone still sent me a feedback of how much they loved what a slut I was?

If only we could harness the power of alcohol we could rule the world.

Jmt

Great advice, even though I don't see you in the first 15 of the Top Rated Stories. But yeah..keep drinking and philosophizing.:rolleyes:

[baller16]

Hmmm... Maybe I should write a story. If I did would any of you guys read it?:p
probably..I usually read everybody's stories who post them

[Jmt]

Great advice, even though I don't see you in the first 15 of the Top Rated Stories. But yeah..keep drinking and philosophizing.:rolleyes:

:confused: You might want to look again.... I have two stories in the top 10

[Fanfiction]

:confused: You might want to look again.... I have two stories in the top 10

NO.. in fact I said Top Rated Stories
not
Top Rated Last 30 Days
in that group you are compared only to recent stories..

so it IS still possible some folk in this thread have a clue isn't it?

[Kimiko]

NO.. in fact I said Top Rated Stories
not
Top Rated Last 30 Days
in that group you are compared only to recent stories..

so it IS still possible some folk in this thread have a clue isn't it?

I don't have any stories anywhere NEAR the Top 10, so color me clueless. :)

[Kimiko]

Hmmm... Maybe I should write a story. If I did would any of you guys read it?:p

Sweetie, if that's really you in your avatar, they'll do more than just read your stories. :)

[XGamer]

Sweetie, if that's really you in your avatar, they'll do more than just read your stories. :)

oo, like what ?

Xgamer

[Kimiko]

oo, like what ?

Xgamer

You're a guy...you tell me! :)

[XGamer]

You're a guy...you tell me! :)

:rolleyes:I may be a guy, but I didn't say it... what exactly is this "more"

Xgamer

[Kimiko]

:rolleyes:I may be a guy, but I didn't say it... what exactly is this "more"

Xgamer

Okay, look at her picture. A nice long look. Now, what do you want to do?

[XGamer]

:confused::confused::confused::confused:
find out what movies, that actress is in.. .... .... ... so I can masterbate while I watch it?

Xgamer
DVD bonus features:

Alternate Ending:

:confused::confused::confused::confused:
find out what movies, that actress is in.. .... .... ... so I can masterbate to more then her picture

[Fanfiction]

I don't have any stories anywhere NEAR the Top 10, so color me clueless. :)

No No.. not at all my dear..

I simply wished to illustrate it may be that when this guy decided the folk in this thread gave him a headache, and that he possessed some quasi divine insight, that the rest of us just may have some also. And in any case WE were all very polite about our claims and not trying to shit on our fellows.

I certainly don't consider folks inferior if they don't qualify on some 'list', but then again, I don't like to be taught to suck eggs either. (unless they were your eggs :kiss: )

[Kimiko]

No No.. not at all my dear..

I simply wished to illustrate it may be that when this guy decided the folk in this thread gave him a headache, and that he possessed some quasi divine insight, that the rest of us just may have some also. And in any case WE were all very polite about our claims and not trying to shit on our fellows.

I certainly don't consider folks inferior if they don't qualify on some 'list', but then again, I don't like to be taught to suck eggs either. (unless they were your eggs :kiss: )


Don't worry, I was just kidding. But I've given up striving for ratings, because there are always people lurking in the shadows trying to downgrade others. Sometimes it's fun to go searching through the database at random...there are some real gems in there with lousy scores. :)

[al2744an]

Okay, look at her picture. A nice long look. Now, what do you want to do?
I want her to give me a good long massage, she's so sexy !!

[Woodtool]

Sweetie, if that's really you in your avatar, they'll do more than just read your stories. :) Definitely would do more than read her story, she's about sexy and a half. Matter of fact, I want her and Kimiko living in my bed.

[slider113]

Hmmm... Maybe I should write a story. If I did would any of you guys read it?:p

Oh yes sweetheart, make me hard, make me cum. lets see what you got ;)

[slider113]

Definitely would do more than read her story, she's about sexy and a half. Matter of fact, I want her and Kimiko living in my bed.

I agree woodtool, both Raquel and kmiko. god what we could do. :p

[Fanfiction]

Don't worry, I was just kidding. But I've given up striving for ratings, because there are always people lurking in the shadows trying to downgrade others. Sometimes it's fun to go searching through the database at random...there are some real gems in there with lousy scores. :)

You've hit a nail on the head there. I must admit I have been on hiatus from a full time writing gig and I had been screwed on a biz deal recently.. plus created 3 failed biz attempts in the last 2 years. SO I was keen to do something to dredge myself out of the depths of depression. like the old Roman generals got moral higher through winning some little skirmishes before committing to a all out battle.. so I was pleased to get a little kick / confidence builder.. BUT I must say, the current rating system is so open to abuse that it doesn't inspire past a limited time.. still.. goals achieved have made it possible to come out of my corner and get ready for round (lost count. hehehe)

[pornluvr]

I don't have any stories anywhere NEAR the Top 10, so color me clueless. :)
This is just an indication of how meaningless the ratings game is in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, your series "The Order" should forever be in the Top 10 (along with "A Teenager's Revenge"). I apologize for bringing back an old thread, but this topic is of real interest to me. On the question of which gender writes better porn stories, I'm ambivalent. Each side has good arguments, but, personally, I find it's impossible to generalize along gender lines on this issue. The same is true of all well-written literature, I believe. For an example of a male author who excels at writing from and embracing the female perspective, read anything by D.H. Lawrence, particularly Women in Love or The Rainbow.

I was really intrigued by the posts urging writers to "find the target audience" and write to it. On an intellectual level I agree with this absolutely; strangely, though, when I wrote my one and only story that I've posted here, audience was the furthest thing from my mind. When I wrote my story it was more about a moment of pure catharsis--delving into my own fantasies and bringing one to life for my own enjoyment and (hopefully) the enjoyment of others. The dialog in my story is clearly influenced by the fact that I watch way too much porn and enjoy extremely vocal, dirty talk from the female performers. I'm an extremely auditory person, so the trash talking in porn (and in porn stories) is a real turn-on for me. I'm currently working on a second story for XNXX; hopefully, before long I'll have enough material for a series. Anyway, thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread--there's a lot of good advice here for those of us who are just starting to write.

[Furred Goddess]

My stories aren't smutty enough, I just write what I would want to read mostly. I love romance and finding out why person a and person b are getting it on. I am just not good at sex for the sake of sex.

[Magpie Amy]

I do think, though, that some women have more trouble getting into the whole brutal male power-trip thing in their writing, and some men have more trouble writing about romance and emotions.

So true - so very true. I guess from my feedback a helluva lot more men read/watch/write porn (or erotic stories as I like to call them:rolleyes:) than women....BUT a good writer is a good writer; end of story.
I have numerous favourite writers - male and female; oddly enough each of them write 'stories' with a beginning a middle and an end.
Gender doesn't come into it!

Amy x