I appreciate that and I can see that you have a good heart but my concern is to get to the root of the problem and I am absolutely convinced that the root of the problem lies in the Ways and the teachings of Islam otherwise these things are going to happen over and over and over again . I want to save lives in the long run

 

I think that we in the west make a very large tactical error by announcing to the world how sad we are at the loss of life in these kinds of attacks .

The United States is particularly at fault in what happened after 911 .

You could see the sadistic glee that Osama bin Laden had hearing about our mournfulness . He said that finally there is fear in the United States in the north and the south and the east and the west .

It's not that we should not mourn our tragically murdered people. But what we should say is that you have caused us great and unnecessary pain because we are a culture that values life and values love .

We should follow that up by an even stronger signal that we have incredible intelligence capabilities and that we are slowly putting the pieces together in the background and you will never know how these pieces are getting put together

We should make it very clear that we will find you and we have no concern whatsoever about how you will die because we will show you as much mercy as you have shown us.

We will prosecute those of you who managed to remain alive but we are not going out of our way to make sure that you survive.

We should carpet bomb every cave system that harbors these murderers who attack and then hide so that they can feel the world crashing in all around them .

There's nothing to do about the suicide bombers except destroy the systems that created them .

The mullahs Who openly call for killing in the west and who live in the west need to be immediately arrested and brought to justice . If there ever was a clear and present danger situation this is it .

The time for hand wringing and special tolerance for Muslims has passed.

Even the Islamic state runs away when there is clear resistance .


Radical Islam is looking for weakness and they are seeing it everywhere in the west and they will not know what to do when they encounter sustained resistance except to run away .

A Russian neighbor of mine said it best. When you think of radical Islam you have to treat them like adolescent boys .

Adolescent boys don't know what to do when they encounter grown mature men.

And that's what the West needs to become; grown mature men.

 

Let us stay on track after the Nicole shit show ...

This attack transends borders and is an attack on civilized society and reaction is pouring in from around the world with condolences and well wishes alike and I don't mean from attention seeking "celebrities" so much as those that can effect change if they get their shit together and take off the gloves in this fight against terrorists foreign and domestic alike ...

Kenny 'heartbroken' by 'vile acts' in Manchester
Taoiseach Enda Kenny has said there are currently no plans to raise the terror alert level in Ireland in the wake of a "vile" attack in Manchester that left 22 people dead.

Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland, he said this is a tragic time for the people of Manchester and a difficult time for the UK government.

He said the Irish ties to Manchester are strong and offered his support.

Mr Kenny said there are no plans yet to raise the alert level in Ireland, but the situation is being monitored closely.

He added gardaí are in touch with their counterparts in the UK and said he would speak to the Garda Commissioner later this morning about current security arrangements in Ireland.

As of now, he said, it is not known if any Irish citizens were affected by the attack, but said helplines are open.

In a statement earlier, the Taoiseach said: "The vile acts carried out in Manchester last night are a reminder of the depravity of the views held by the few. Those beliefs have no place in our society.

"My thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families and all those affected by this atrocity. I am heartbroken for all.

"The city of Manchester has exceptionally close ties with our country and I extend the solidarity of the Irish Government and all our people to those affected across the UK."

President Michael D Higgins has also offered his sympathy and that of the Irish people to the families of those who have lost their lives and those injured in the attack.

He said: "This cowardly attack on innocent citizens will have appalled all those who care for democracy, freedom and the right to live and enjoy the public space.

"Manchester has been home to the Irish and so many nationalities for centuries and at this terrible time I want to send the people of this great and welcoming city not only our sympathy but our solidarity.

"Our thoughts in Ireland are with all of the people of Manchester and our neighbours throughout the United Kingdom at this time.

"I am conveying this message to the Mayor of Greater Manchester, Andy Burnham and I will be writing formally to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth to convey the sympathy of the Irish people."

Minister for Foreign Affairs Charlie Flanagan said: "I am shocked and horrified by the large loss of life in Manchester last night and my thoughts and prayers are with those affected, and we stand by our nearest neighbour, the U.K. especially due to the strong links between our country and the city of Manchester.

"The Consular Section of my Department, in conjunction with our Embassy in London is monitoring the situation and we are not at this time aware of any Irish citizens affected.

"Anyone with concerns for family and friends can contact the Consular Division of my Department on 353 1 408 2000."

Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin said: "To attack a group of young people in such a cowardly way is simply abhorrent to the vast majority of people in Ireland, and I know that the people of Ireland stand in solidarity with the people of Manchester.

"As a parent, I find this attack exceptionally difficult to comprehend, and while details are limited at present, it's clear that whoever orchestrated this attack cares little for basic decency and humanity.

"The ties between Ireland and Manchester run deep, but we know that the people of Manchester are strong and resilient and will rise above this barbaric attack on innocence.

"In the days and weeks to come, we will be praying for those who have lost their lives, and those who were injured."

Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams has said: "This was a shocking and horrendous attack on children and young people enjoying a concert. Our thoughts are with those killed and with all those who are injured."

SDLP leader Colum Eastwood said: "The people of Ireland understand the tragic pain of loss that those in Manchester are feeling.

"We stand with the people of Manchester today, unbroken, unbowed and resolutely determined to defeat those responsible."

He added: "This was a heartbreaking act of barbarism."

Ulster Unionist leader Robin Swann said the attackers would not succeed.

"We stand united with the people of Manchester to face down the terrorists who carried out this cowardly act.

"As a parent, I can only imagine the hurt and pain which the parents of the children killed and injured are going through."

Labour Party eader Brendan Howlin expressed his sympathies with all those affected by last night's attack.

"The news from Manchester is simply appalling. On behalf of my Party, I would like to offer our deepest sympathies with the victims, their families and the people of Manchester," Mr Howlin said in a statement.

"Ireland has always had strong links with Manchester, and today more than ever we stand alongside the community there, as they mourn the needless loss of so many young lives.

"I would also like to pay tribute to the emergency workers and all those local people in Manchester who we are hearing have been doing all they can to help in the aftermath of this atrocity."

Democratic Unionist leader Arlene Foster tweeted her condolences. She said: "Terrorism must never win."

Leaders from around the world have condemned the attack and offered their condolences to the victims.

French President Emmanuel Macron condemned the attack as "the most cowardly terrorism" and expressed France's compassion and solidarity with Britain.


Australian Prime Minister Malcom Turnbull told the country's parliament the incident was a "brutal attack on young people everywhere".

He said: "This incident, this attack, is especially vile, especially criminal, especially horrific because it appears to have been deliberately directed at teenagers.

"This is an attack on innocents. Surely there is no crime more reprehensible than the murder of children.

"This is a direct and brutal attack on young people everywhere, on freedom everywhere."

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi tweeted: "Pained by the attack in Manchester. We strongly condemn it. Our thoughts are with the families of the deceased & prayers with the injured."

In Japan, a government spokesman said: "If this is a terrorist attack, such abhorrent acts of terrorism cannot be justified for any reason, and Japan firmly condemns such an act of terrorism.

"I would like to express my heartfelt condolences to the victims and families of the deceased and my prayers to a swift recovery for the wounded. Japan stands in solidarity with the people of the UK."

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau tweeted: "Canadians are shocked by the news of the horrific attack in Manchester tonight. Please keep the victims & their families in your thoughts."

President of the European Council, Donald Tusk, tweeted: "My heart is in Manchester this night. Our thoughts are with the victims."

 

Some people take things harder than others when tragedy's like this occur and as much as my heart weighs heavy it is nothing new to me but when you have to spend the night rocking a loved one to sleep while tears roll down her cheeks your eyes get opened wider to the fact that even though we think we are save half a world away from the carnage, when we end up basically in the backyard of where the chaos is happening it makes you more aware of the actual effects it can have on some with a bigger heart than others. My sweety is sad, scared and heartbroken over this but I am doing my best to reassure her that I would never let anything happen to her but that is what these poor innocent children were told by their parents as well ... be vigilant !!!

Today we will stay in our hotel and simply mourn for the victims.

 

Report.
Manchester police have arrested a man.
No mention of actual connection ,
just reported as breaking news in story.

 

We can and should mourn.

But the best way to ensure that we do not mourn any longer than necessary is to act decisively against these people .

People do not understand the paradox of tolerance because taken to its extreme toleration becomes tolerant of intolerance.

I will continue to speak clearly and forcefully on this issue that is until the Liberals get their way and I am silenced .

Sadly people on the left are very supportive of extinguishing free speech .

 

I am angry, saddened and frustrated by this attack in the town of my birth................I have just read the entire thread and the crass insensitivity of Nicole and the gang comes as no surprise. Her desperation to be the centre of attention and further her agenda is fuelled by exactly the same emotions as those of the brainwashed suicide bombers and the cowardly brainwashers.

That being said now is not the time so show some fucking respect!!

The number of dead is sadly rising and the number of injured means this number will probably rise further!

My thoughts are with the families of the dead, the families of the injured and the injured themselves.

A fellow mancunian!

Thinskin

 

According to the BBC islamic state is now claiming responsibility for the Manchester bombing .

It's time to act.

It's time to act decisively and not worry about the hurt feelings of Muslims .

They are going to hate us no matter what we do

 

This is from the telegraph

https://www.google.com/amp/www.tele...ena-evacuated-reports-gunshots-explosion/amp/

 

I will not silence myself on matters of public safety

You're up against a person who is going to speak the truth that I firmly believe to be the truth .

No cyber bullying is going to shut me up .

IS THAT CLEAR?

 

Then start your own thread and leave this one for people to express their grief and sadness!

You are just showboating which is all the IS bomber was doing!

TWAT!!

Thinskin

 

If one is truly concerned about the loss of life and is truly concerned about sensitivity then it strikes me that one would be concerned about removing the root causes so that it won't happen again.

Be as sensitive as you want and then be sensitive again the next time it happens and the next time and the next time it happens after that .

Feeling sorry about it is not going to solve the problem.

And it is very sad that the best you can do is throw insults when I'm trying to solve the problem

Tears and your hypocritical and sudden concern for human life in the advance of your agenda are not going to solve the problem.

You have two choices one is to ignore my posts and the other is to go to the moderators to have me banned.

If I am so insignificant there is no reason not to ignore me and you have not been successful in having me banned so all you were left with are ad hominems.

I am not scared off by a bunch of people who think that insults are enough to make me scamper away .

And I don't give a damn if there is not one other person On here that agrees with me.

If I am an attention grabbing whore or cunt or what other profanity you choose (and not in public where you would get your ass kicked by the way) to throw at me the attention I am looking for is the attention that will solve the problem .

You've tried everything . You tried to get me banned you tried to attack my reputation with other people on the site . You tried cyber bullying but I'm still here .

For Some reason this drives you crazy.

Perhaps I'm not so insignificant after all or you would not put in all this effort .

Normal people just walk away from significance.

 

Time and Place stupid ... grieve today, be angry tomorrow !!!

You yourself have no hand in any solution so just stfu for 5 minutes on the whole political aspect. You don't have the cred to comment on solutions ...

 

"And do what? Bomb the Islamic State? Invade Iraq?"

Yes and even the latter if necessary

 

OK I have thrown out my solutions .

I have heard no alternate solutions . All that I've heard is that my solutions are not acceptable .

What is your solution?

Everyone is going to feel bad at the loss of life at the hands of someone who does not value life so that's a given .

Moving on from there what is your solution to prevent this from happening again ?

Or do you just want to bitch ?

 

I was just informed that just passing through and my bad are the same person .

If that is correct then I wonder how many other identities just passing through has . And what is the point of this ?

I don't particularly care but I guess that ganging up is pretty common even in street fights . But generally streetfighters at least find other individuals to form their pack. But that's in the real world where anonymity is not a fort to hide behind .

This is a very very strange site and if it were not for the handful of good people I would have left a long time ago.

 

What could go wrong??

'Some messages described the attack as an act of revenge in response to air strikes in Iraq and Syria. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...te-news-updates-who-responsible-a7750501.html

"It seems that bombs of the British airforce over children of Mosul and Raqqa has just came back to #Manchester," one user named Abdul Haqq said on Twitter, in reference to the Iraqi and Syrian cities held by the militants where a US-led coalition, of which Britain is a member, is conducting air strikes. ...'

 

New York city is on heightened alert and security is visible everywhere just in case.

 

Stop deflecting stupid ... you got your information from your ms.man account lol.

AND WTF are you talking about, you only have 5 people that aren't on your ignore list lol. TWO of them are you ...

Thanks for letting me know your source is Mr Smith since you mentioned the street fighting thing which me and him just touched on in another thread ...

 

I think that the US created this problem by its invasion of Iraq in the second gulf war and I think we have responsibility to fix it.

As bad as things were under Saddam Hussein I think things are worse now