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    What makes it appealing? Why would you like rape stories? Do you get sick of stories when the girl is too submissive?
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    nothing makes it appealing. i think it is disgusting. any guy that needs to rape or read a rape story should have his dick cut off and forced to eat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spartanxiphos1 View Post
    nothing makes it appealing. i think it is disgusting. any guy that needs to rape or read a rape story should have his dick cut off and forced to eat it.
    From the people I have met in my life, women seem to prefer and initiate the "rape" fantasy more then men. I think a lot of women like to be dominated in a safe but brutal way.


    I am not saying all women, but more then you would expect.
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    I believe rape stories are supposed to appeal to women, the idea being that some women do in fact fantasize about being taken by a strong man. At first refusing to have sex, but slowly melting into a sensuous experience.

    Actual rape is the exact opposite, one being forcing it's will onto another, and destroying the victims most... sacred of temples...

    Real rape is evil.

    Fantasy Rape can be controlled by the person making the fantasy. Actual rape is not a fantasy, and the person being raped has no control. Myths like "you can't thread a moving needle!" speak to the ignorance that society still has about the nature of rape. Heres a neat biological fact. Humans are sexually dimorphic. We come in two physically distinct forms. Males tend to be larger than females, on a muscular lever, and generally as a whole. Is it not conceivable that a man raping someone is going to be larger, and stronger than the victim?

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    yeah thats fine but most of those stories are actually about rape rape. where the man actually rapes the woman and thats just wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spartanxiphos1 View Post
    yeah thats fine but most of those stories are actually about rape rape. where the man actually rapes the woman and thats just wrong!
    True, but some women need or want to feel that total lack of control. Reading about a woman in a fictional situation is a safe way to become aroused and help open up there "kink" or "fetish" so as to better enjoy themselves.

    Real rape, beyond unconscionable. Real rapists, death is the only penalty. But in a fantasy or role playing sex game....what ever gets you off.
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    In regards to the rape rape fantasy stories, well... One can only guess. But I think KF might be on the right track.
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    Well I dont find anything arousing about rape...it appalls me. As for women, that kinda worries me.
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    Indeed. I do not understand.
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    death is not the only penalty. there are many things worse than death!
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    Like being forgotten... Now that can be worse than death.
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    forgotten would be worse but there are other things!
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    Death should have been the only option but with false rape accusations abounding I will never support it. Only the other day a guy in my country got released after 10 years in jail when the women finally confessed it was all a lie and that she and her bf at the time had just been trying to extort money from the guy.

    Anyway, my one female friend likes the rape fantasies a lot while I am not into it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by romeoxxx View Post
    Well I dont find anything arousing about rape...it appalls me. As for women, that kinda worries me.
    yea. i was surprised at that little info about women??! i thought guys would fantasise rape more like when some cockteaser girl from school is way out their league

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    For me i think rape stories are fine so long no torture is involved. hate gory ones, just plain sex is fine. rape's more exciting as consensual sex gets very very boring with all the submissive protagonists...rape opens more room for an exciting scenario. Yea, also, readers got to know the different between fantasy and reality.
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    I am totally into the play rape thing. Porn and stories are fictional, and safe. Actual rape is completely different, and NO woman wants to actually be raped. It is just a fantasy, meant for role-playing only.
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    yes, i like those. interesting. but i hate it if its faked, like in porn vids. or when the rape victim suddenely likes the rape. find it ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordExia View Post
    yes, i like those. interesting. but i hate it if its faked, like in porn vids. or when the rape victim suddenely likes the rape. find it ridiculous.
    I agree. I like everything to be realistic.
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    I learned from my ex wife that most woman want to be controled and used to a point. I was a nice guy and she weas a bitch and a whore. I never was the dominant one. Now she got hooked up with this big asshole and he controls her to the point of never seeing our two boys. She belongs to him. LOL I am glad he treats her like the bitch she is. I know she will do anything (and I mean anything) to keep her man. Even cut herself off from her children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spartanxiphos1 View Post
    nothing makes it appealing. i think it is disgusting. any guy that needs to rape or read a rape story should have his dick cut off and forced to eat it.

    most deff, if the woman doesnt want it she doesnt want it
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordExia View Post
    What makes it appealing? Why would you like rape stories? Do you get sick of stories when the girl is too submissive?
    Rape - appealing? Being a sub, I understand. Being open to try things because someone you trust suggests them can be very enlightening, but rape per se doesn't feel comfortable for me.

    I like erotic play and helping myself and the person (usually a woman) I am playing with, enjoy the scene. What bothers me is a woman will say she is up for anything, but if you hit their limit - something they will not do, or allow - they leave you high and dry.

    I like to know the limits a woman has, even the language, because I am not willing to guess at what they want or don't want! I think a sub without limits is impossible. If at some point during a role play the woman doesn't want it anymore a polite "I'm not into it!" feels really good. I know I have told a woman I felt I had gone too far and couldn't carry on!
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    My wife has a rape fantasy & I have always found it disturbing. If she wants me to rape her, wouldn't she want anyone to rape her??

    I could understand getting rough & stuff but it's impossible for it to be rape if she wants it? How do you ladies feel about rape? If a stranger started to rape you would you give in & enjoy it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Monster View Post
    My wife has a rape fantasy & I have always found it disturbing. If she wants me to rape her, wouldn't she want anyone to rape her??

    I could understand getting rough & stuff but it's impossible for it to be rape if she wants it? How do you ladies feel about rape? If a stranger started to rape you would you give in & enjoy it?
    I can't really speak for women on this, but I think its a fantasy because she knows you won't actually HURT her.
    Her fantasy about being raped by you isn't that she wants rape like she would get from a stranger, but she would submit to you. My wife likes it when I hold her down and wants me to tie her up and blindfold her and I've been thinking of some really wild stuff to do with that, but there's no way I'd want to cause her pain, or make it something she wouldn't enjoy.

    Some women might want the pain too, but I'd have a hard time with it, and I'd have to be damn sure that was what she wanted.

    I think the mentality comes from the fact that we ARE animals, and she wants you to take her like an animal over and over until she's a quivering pile of girl-flesh..

    If she's told you exactly what she wants, then by all means, give her a "safe" word to say or something she can do if she wants you to stop, and then do it.
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    rape fantasies written to be fantasies are fake, resulting in lack of realism. This reduces the story's effectiveness. If you want to write a rape, then you ought to write it as if it were to happen, not some half-hearted one that turns into consensual or whatever. If you despise rape where the girl tries to escape, then don't write it and dun flame otherwise good authors.
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    i dint read any of the other responces to this but in my opinion rape is sick and every man that does it should have his dick cut off,


    why people like it, its a realism thing if someone likes it it is the only way they can get sex

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    rape/incest are just what some sad people can image themselfs doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepinsideXXx View Post
    I can't really speak for women on this, but I think its a fantasy because she knows you won't actually HURT her.
    Her fantasy about being raped by you isn't that she wants rape like she would get from a stranger, but she would submit to you. My wife likes it when I hold her down and wants me to tie her up and blindfold her and I've been thinking of some really wild stuff to do with that, but there's no way I'd want to cause her pain, or make it something she wouldn't enjoy.

    Some women might want the pain too, but I'd have a hard time with it, and I'd have to be damn sure that was what she wanted.

    I think the mentality comes from the fact that we ARE animals, and she wants you to take her like an animal over and over until she's a quivering pile of girl-flesh..

    If she's told you exactly what she wants, then by all means, give her a "safe" word to say or something she can do if she wants you to stop, and then do it.
    You got it exactly right. Fantasy rape has almost nothing to do with real rape. With real rape, the most damaging thing is the loss of control (not withstanding any physical damage, of course), and the loss of the illusion that we are safe. With fantasy rape, we don't lose that control...we exercise control by shaping the fantasy ourselves, and giving over power to our partner. And in doing that, we reinforce the illusion of safety. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but fantasy rape allows us to take back a little bit of the control we may have lost, while also enjoying animalistic sex. Of course, that's just my personal opinion. Others may disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by assmonkey View Post
    You got it exactly right. Fantasy rape has almost nothing to do with real rape. With real rape, the most damaging thing is the loss of control (not withstanding any physical damage, of course), and the loss of the illusion that we are safe. With fantasy rape, we don't lose that control...we exercise control by shaping the fantasy ourselves, and giving over power to our partner. And in doing that, we reinforce the illusion of safety. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but fantasy rape allows us to take back a little bit of the control we may have lost, while also enjoying animalistic sex. Of course, that's just my personal opinion. Others may disagree.
    If this makes me a sick bastard then so be it. but i think the fun in real rape, not the fake ones with the victim enjoying is seeing the defenselessness (is there such a word?) and humiliation of the girl. thats why rape victim stereotypes would be innocent, young, big chested (hate these), petite etc. Weak looking victims. And of course there's the breaking part. The more you struggle, the more fun. No? Anyone here is Pro-rape person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordExia View Post
    If this makes me a sick bastard then so be it. but i think the fun in real rape, not the fake ones with the victim enjoying is seeing the defenselessness (is there such a word?) and humiliation of the girl. thats why rape victim stereotypes would be innocent, young, big chested (hate these), petite etc. Weak looking victims. And of course there's the breaking part. The more you struggle, the more fun. No? Anyone here is Pro-rape person?
    ...What do you think rape does to a person? Have you ever seen the depression, the guilt, the complete destruction of their life? If you actually support rape, you're an incredibly sick person, and I wish you would have this happen to you so you would understand the pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by insanity6is1a6virtue View Post
    ...What do you think rape does to a person? Have you ever seen the depression, the guilt, the complete destruction of their life? If you actually support rape, you're an incredibly sick person, and I wish you would have this happen to you so you would understand the pain.
    see here. i know the destruction. i dun support it. but enjoy the genre, no one actually gets hurt in the story. i know the diff btw fantasy and reality. its just i want it to be realistic, not fake. lols. rape is very bad. but stories about them should portray the realism or else the fantasy is NOT rape. its role-play, which fucks up the genre imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordExia View Post
    see here. i know the destruction. i dun support it. but enjoy the genre, no one actually gets hurt in the story. i know the diff btw fantasy and reality. its just i want it to be realistic, not fake. lols. rape is very bad. but stories about them should portray the realism or else the fantasy is NOT rape. its role-play, which fucks up the genre imo.
    Ok.. from your other post it sounded like you supported actual rape of people.
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    This thread has gone in a few different directions so I'll try my best to state this all well...

    I think rape stories are just fine. They are stories. I think stories of anything are just fine. Even stories that I don't read and others would consider "sick". I figure, to each their own. Doesn't bother me.

    Now, onto the play rape stuff. It is one of two things that will get me off without a doubt. Someone earlier asked why their wife would like it because wouldn't it mean she would want to be raped by anyone. Then someone else responded that she wants it because she knows the husband won't hurt her.

    Now, this is not everyone's take, but it is mine. I like rape because it gives me a different kind of pain. I like pain, so I get that during sex about 80% of the time anyway. Play rape is a completely different story though. It gets in your head. You are struggling for your "life". There is a struggle, I am fighting back. It is a head game and a physical one. It is draining. It leaves me with bruises. It leaves me sobbing sometimes. That is what I need from my rape play. Luckily my boyfriend can play this out with me and bring me back to the safe point of reality.

    If done improperly it can mess people up, so play Safe, Sane, Consensual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintyKisses View Post
    This thread has gone in a few different directions so I'll try my best to state this all well...

    I think rape stories are just fine. They are stories. I think stories of anything are just fine. Even stories that I don't read and others would consider "sick". I figure, to each their own. Doesn't bother me.

    Now, onto the play rape stuff. It is one of two things that will get me off without a doubt. Someone earlier asked why their wife would like it because wouldn't it mean she would want to be raped by anyone. Then someone else responded that she wants it because she knows the husband won't hurt her.

    Now, this is not everyone's take, but it is mine. I like rape because it gives me a different kind of pain. I like pain, so I get that during sex about 80% of the time anyway. Play rape is a completely different story though. It gets in your head. You are struggling for your "life". There is a struggle, I am fighting back. It is a head game and a physical one. It is draining. It leaves me with bruises. It leaves me sobbing sometimes. That is what I need from my rape play. Luckily my boyfriend can play this out with me and bring me back to the safe point of reality.

    If done improperly it can mess people up, so play Safe, Sane, Consensual.
    these 3 fucks up a rape story. badly it belongs to the romance section. maybe there should be a play rape/real rape section so people dun get misled...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordExia View Post
    these 3 fucks up a rape story. badly it belongs to the romance section. maybe there should be a play rape/real rape section so people dun get misled...

    You misunderstand what Safe, Sane, and Consensual mean.

    Safe means that both partners are safe in what they do. That means my partner is not going to intentional hurt me in a bad way such as breaking a bone.

    Sane means that both partners are mentally sound enough to be making the decision to partake in the activity.

    Consensual is just that, both parties are consenting to what happens.

    It is not a romantic notion, it is a play safety method commonly regarded in the BDSM community. Often abbreviated to SSC.

    While my play rape is not real rape, at the time it feels like it. While some people roleplay without truly adapting to the roles, rape play is not one of those things [at least for me]. Many act after such sessions like actual rape victims, which is why aftercare is so important.

    Stories are fiction [mostly], rarely is rape play written about, merely because why write about play when you can write about the real thing.

    Oh, and it seems like you are taking my SSC talk to be about stories, it is not. It is addressing the part of the thread that was talking about women and rape play in real time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintyKisses View Post
    Luckily my boyfriend can play this out with me and bring me back to the safe point of reality.
    That's what I meant when I said he wouldn't "hurt" her. If he won't take away your life or livelyhood and "hurt" you beyond what you need or want, then you have found the right person to help you, and you are lucky to have found a good match.
    You definately shed more light on the subject than I can, and I think I kind of understand. Its the ones that do it for real that I don't understand at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintyKisses View Post
    You misunderstand what Safe, Sane, and Consensual mean.

    Safe means that both partners are safe in what they do. That means my partner is not going to intentional hurt me in a bad way such as breaking a bone.

    Sane means that both partners are mentally sound enough to be making the decision to partake in the activity.

    Consensual is just that, both parties are consenting to what happens.

    It is not a romantic notion, it is a play safety method commonly regarded in the BDSM community. Often abbreviated to SSC.

    While my play rape is not real rape, at the time it feels like it. While some people roleplay without truly adapting to the roles, rape play is not one of those things [at least for me]. Many act after such sessions like actual rape victims, which is why aftercare is so important.

    Stories are fiction [mostly], rarely is rape play written about, merely because why write about play when you can write about the real thing.
    the problem is i realized 90% of the rape stories all end up with some really weird ending (i.e victim enjoys herself) or have unbelievable twists. few actually portray a gripping and believable plot. writer doesnt spend enuff time plotting and just dives straight into their story. resulting in total lack of realism, which really peeves me. especially since in this genre the more real it gets, the better.
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    i awas love rape stories i so wash a man would come into my home and rape me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherryxox View Post
    i awas love rape stories i so wash a man would come into my home and rape me
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepinsideXXx View Post
    That's what I meant when I said he wouldn't "hurt" her. If he won't take away your life or livelyhood and "hurt" you beyond what you need or want, then you have found the right person to help you, and you are lucky to have found a good match.
    You definately shed more light on the subject than I can, and I think I kind of understand. Its the ones that do it for real that I don't understand at all.
    I am extremely lucky. I think that if I woman wants this, she needs to find someone that will listen to her wants and morph them into a reality. It is hard sometimes, because lots of men have a hard time hurting women especially women they love. I agree with the sentiment about not understanding people who inflict real rape upon women. It turns my stomach.

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    the problem is i realized 90% of the rape stories all end up with some really weird ending (i.e victim enjoys herself) or have unbelievable twists. few actually portray a gripping and believable plot. writer doesnt spend enuff time plotting and just dives straight into their story. resulting in total lack of realism, which really peeves me. especially since in this genre the more real it gets, the better.
    Ah, well you are talking about the stories, that was a small part of what I was addressing. I was more talking about real time play rape.

    As for the stories, eh, it doesn't bother me. If you don't like it, write one for yourself! :P
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    yeah i kinda agree i would rather have the real thing happen to me
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    I love them, because I love the thought of being dominated by a man I don't know, it's kind of hot.
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    There's nothing shameful about it. I love the whole thing and i have actually done it once before and It was all consensual of course.
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