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    Well, my turn to moan, about the lack of control when it comes to under-age stories. Now I am no prude, and Iam live and let live when it comes to most things, but well kiddie sex is well, perverted to say the least.

    Now it's no good people saying well my Dad fucked me when I was 13, and still does and I am normal, cos I;ll say your not your abused and will be an abuser.

    Sorry folks kids are kids, let them experiment with their own age, we all did the fumbling in the dark at 13, adults stick to adults, there's plenty to look at and fuck. If you insist on doing it, go and find a big cliff and jump off, or better still blow your brains out. If your a woman your an even bigger sad fuck up
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    Sweetie there are dozens of threads like this. Why start another one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogusjoe1958 View Post
    Well, my turn to moan, about the lack of control when it comes to under-age stories. Now I am no prude, and Iam live and let live when it comes to most things, but well kiddie sex is well, perverted to say the least.

    Now it's no good people saying well my Dad fucked me when I was 13, and still does and I am normal, cos I;ll say your not your abused and will be an abuser.

    Sorry folks kids are kids, let them experiment with their own age, we all did the fumbling in the dark at 13, adults stick to adults, there's plenty to look at and fuck. If you insist on doing it, go and find a big cliff and jump off, or better still blow your brains out.
    I'm not into that sort of thing either, but I don't see how stories hurt anyone. I'm against child abuse, including child porn, but I figure that, if someone who finds children attractive uses stories and drawn images to get their release, it makes them less likely to really do it. Also, I believe in the freedom of speech.

    It would be more convenient if people could decide what to be attracted to, obviously, but that's simply not the case. The healthiest thing a person can really do with an unhealthy fetish is to keep it fictional. Total repression of it is more likely to lead to an outburst later.

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    If your a woman your an even bigger sad fuck up
    I don't see how being a woman who's into it would be worse than being a man who's into it. Can you explain that?
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    Sex stories are one of the only means of expression for those stricken with the desire to be intimate with younger people. It is a part of their humanity that has been repressed. Whenever that occurs in society , there is always an explosion of alternate forms of expression that allow people to explore these thoughts and emotions that have been deemed evil and dirty by society.

    Think for a moment. Would you rather that the person who desires a young person seek out a real flesh and blood teenager, or would you rather see them sit harmlessly at a computer screen reading or writing stories of desire?

    Its not going away, so you've got to pick one. If you try to repress it, it will just happen in some other form. With time, everyone will come to understand that all forms of repression are useless and harmful, and that those that have issues fitting in with the current norms of society should not be punished. They should instead be understood, and helped to better understand themselves and the harm they might cause.
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    I'm not sure if I believe that stories about child sex either prevent people from actually doing the deed in real life, or increase the chance of it happening.

    I would think that if you're capable of abusing children, you're capable of doing it. Reading stories won't stop it, and reading stories won't make it happen if you're just not that kind of person.

    The real problem I see with that logic, is that this type of obsession can have addictive qualities. Obviouslly not physically addictive, but it can be very psychologically addictive. When you're addicted to something, having it waved in front of your face can make it all the tougher to resist and can potentially lead to escalation.

    It's a very complicated issue, to say the least
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    http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=182201

    http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=133808


    Next time try having a little common sense and use the search function... Above are just 2 of the numerous threads dealing with this subject....

    Also it would be wise to remember this:
    (Chris4Sylvia's post..No. 15 in the first link..Thread called sickos)
    You do realise that the freedom this site gives you to comment like this, is the same freedom this site gives others to write about incest and pedophilia...

    You CANNOT have 1 without the other...

    Also this: (copied and pasted from another under-age story thread, Babysitting 8yo. cutie)
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    When they get you in court for sexually molesting a child, they're out for blood. They'll have your IP address subpoenaed from XNXX (If you live in Texas, it will be especially hard to argue that the IP address doesn't belong to you, considering your user name), a written statement from you taken straight from the website claiming that you did it, the contents of everything on your computer (your claim should at least be worth a warrant to search it), and a jury stacked against you.

    You're right, though; I wouldn't play the odds on this one. They probably won't come after you for this story. It's just that if they do, you're out of luck..

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    All of what you say is true. There's one little detail you are over looking. They actually have to have a known victim. That means they have to find this supposed 8 year old. I suppose they could use this story as a reason to harass him, and begin some investigation. But there's not a lot to go on here. They can't prosecute him for molesting a random non-descript eight year old. They have to have more than that. Let's say I wrote a story claiming to have killed someone. That might be reason to investigate. But they can't get a conviction on murder without something significantly more than that (like a dead body).

    (Daddycums quote)
    Good point. I think you got me there. No victim = no case.
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    mmm. I know this is an open thread on here, I am not throwing bricks here but...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris4sylvia View Post
    http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=182201

    http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=133808


    Next time try having a little common sense and use the search function... Above are just 2 of the numerous threads dealing with this subject....

    Also it would be wise to remember this:
    (Chris4Sylvia's post..No. 15 in the first link..Thread called sickos)
    You do realise that the freedom this site gives you to comment like this, is the same freedom this site gives others to write about incest and pedophilia...

    You CANNOT have 1 without the other...

    Also this: (copied and pasted from another under-age story thread, Babysitting 8yo. cutie)
    (Daddycums quote)
    When they get you in court for sexually molesting a child, they're out for blood. They'll have your IP address subpoenaed from XNXX (If you live in Texas, it will be especially hard to argue that the IP address doesn't belong to you, considering your user name), a written statement from you taken straight from the website claiming that you did it, the contents of everything on your computer (your claim should at least be worth a warrant to search it), and a jury stacked against you.

    You're right, though; I wouldn't play the odds on this one. They probably won't come after you for this story. It's just that if they do, you're out of luck..

    (Pissedpervguy's quote)
    All of what you say is true. There's one little detail you are over looking. They actually have to have a known victim. That means they have to find this supposed 8 year old. I suppose they could use this story as a reason to harass him, and begin some investigation. But there's not a lot to go on here. They can't prosecute him for molesting a random non-descript eight year old. They have to have more than that. Let's say I wrote a story claiming to have killed someone. That might be reason to investigate. But they can't get a conviction on murder without something significantly more than that (like a dead body).

    (Daddycums quote)
    Good point. I think you got me there. No victim = no case.
    I don't think you have any real understanding of Freedom of Speech laws, and use it purely as a justification.

    Freedom of speech does not allow you to say absolutely anything you want. There are limitations when it comes to extremely obscene or offensive material, and it is up to the discretion of the judge/jury to decide whether or not there has been a violation.

    Also, in the US, a real victim is NOT required for child porn laws to be broken. Guys have been arrested and convicted in America for posession and distribution of cartoon child pornography, despite a lack of real victims.

    I don't think child sex stories should be illegal, but don't try to use fallacious reasoning to justify it.
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    who said anything about the US, still you still thinks its all about your bill of rights and freedom of speech, fuck you, there's more to the world than the good old US of A
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogusjoe1958 View Post
    who said anything about the US, still you still thinks its all about your bill of rights and freedom of speech, fuck you, there's more to the world than the good old US of A
    He is from Canada. Our Bill of Rights is different than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogusjoe1958 View Post
    who said anything about the US, still you still thinks its all about your bill of rights and freedom of speech, fuck you, there's more to the world than the good old US of A
    It is fuck all to do with the Bill of Rights and freedom of speech that the Americans amongst us enjoy, this site is run out of a European country (I think). People who post underage sex stories, while immoral, are not breaking any laws, and to stop them posting would be censorship, so if you want them stopped then what is next, gay sex because homophobes don't like it, straight sex because gays don't like it, all sex because the religious zealots on here don't like it, keep going with the list in your head and when you reach the point we can start from let us know. And then we will tell you to fuck off because not doesn't break any rules on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destor View Post
    I don't think you have any real understanding of Freedom of Speech laws, and use it purely as a justification.

    Freedom of speech does not allow you to say absolutely anything you want. There are limitations when it comes to extremely obscene or offensive material, and it is up to the discretion of the judge/jury to decide whether or not there has been a violation.

    Also, in the US, a real victim is NOT required for child porn laws to be broken. Guys have been arrested and convicted in America for posession and distribution of cartoon child pornography, despite a lack of real victims.

    I don't think child sex stories should be illegal, but don't try to use fallacious reasoning to justify it.
    My first comment is about the way this site handles sensitive subjects, if you look at the front page of the story site it states quite clearly that there is NO censorship...So therefore the freedom that NO censorship allows goes both ways, you are able to post your disgust about any topic but, by the same freedom, anyone can post praise on any topic. The only restrictions are clearly laid down in the forum rules...

    Did you look at where the 2 profiles I have quoted come from..All I have done is quoted their exchange as it is a valid argument..
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    whho hooo struck a nerve here folks, so sensitive, I was only saying..................
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    lol Umm, define under-age...

    Yeah, if you consider the whole world the legal age of consent ranges from as low as 11 years old to 21. You know, with respect to the whole world there is only overall agreement when you're talking about adults having sex with very young children. For example; most would agree that an adult having sex with a 5 year old is taboo.

    Frankly, I consider these threads to show extreme arrogance and would like to see them curtailed... Ah, yes - my opinion only
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogusjoe1958 View Post
    whho hooo struck a nerve here folks, so sensitive, I was only saying..................
    No you asked a question and you got a measured response, no one is overly sensitive, quite a few of us disagree with the posting of underage stories on a moral ground, legally there is nothing we can do about it, till thought crimes exist.
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    Under age /Pedophilia Stories

    Let me start out I’m all for freedom of speech, this is about how we deal with it.

    Let’s say your 9 yr old introvert son “Timmy” brings to you a picture he has been drawing. The picture is beautifully drawn, better then what most college level art students could draw, “Timmy” has a real future as an artist your sure of it. But here the problem, the drawing is of “Timmy” standing over the family pets with a blood butcher knife dripping blood. The family dog with multiple stab wounds and in a pool of blood, the cat the same way but decapitated. Do you praise “Timmy” for the beautiful picture and tell him, “Please draw more, you’re so talented Timmy.” and act like it’s any normal picture. Or do you worry that “Timmy” might have problems?

    So a week later “Timmy” comes to you all excited to show you his new picture, again beautifully drawn he is an artist. Only this time the picture depicts “Timmy” with a smile on his face cutting the head off the cat while the family dog with multiple stab wounds lye’s dead in a pool of blood. Do you pat “Timmy” on the head and say “Make more please.”?

    So a week later “Timmy” shows up excited with his new picture, the quality is even better, which you didn’t think possible. This picture depicts “Timmy” with his blood butcher knife, the family pet stabbed and mutilated in the back ground, but this time instead of the cat “Timmy” is killing his 8 yr old sister with the knife, stabbing her multiple time. So this time you ask him “Timmy, do you want to kill the pets and your baby sister?”. “Timmy” say, “It’s just a fantasy I have, I would never do it.”

    So a week later “Timmy” comes to you all excited to show you his new picture. This picture depicts all your family pets, his sister and now you and your spouse, all being killed by “Timmy”. Again do you praise him and ask for more, or do you think he needs help? After all it’s just a fantasy, he would never do a thing like that.

    So a week later “Timmy” comes to you all excited to show you his new picture. This picture depicts “Timmy” at his school with a gun shooting his teacher with all his classmate dead in the back ground. Of course it’s just a fantasy and “Timmy” would never do anything like that.

    So a week later “Timmy” doesn’t come to you, instead you get a call from the police, “Timmy” is ok, the police have him in custody but half of his classmates are dead, along with his teacher, the other half of his classmate have various gunshot wounds.

    I know what you’re thinking; there is not suppose to be any 9 yr olds on this site, and no schools have ever been shot up by students, and no one on this site is a pedo! Another one of your fantasy’s???




    The content of this site is up to the owners, and unless they decide to make changes everything will stay the same, I’m sure it’s more about money then morality. I also know I don’t have to click on or read anything I don’t want to.

    So should we praise writers of pedo stories and encourage then to write more or should we realize they have a problem and not praise them and ask for more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily23XXX View Post
    Under age /Pedophilia Stories

    Let me start out I’m all for freedom of speech, this is about how we deal with it.

    Let’s say your 9 yr old introvert son “Timmy” brings to you a picture he has been drawing. The picture is beautifully drawn, better then what most college level art students could draw, “Timmy” has a real future as an artist your sure of it. But here the problem, the drawing is of “Timmy” standing over the family pets with a blood butcher knife dripping blood. The family dog with multiple stab wounds and in a pool of blood, the cat the same way but decapitated. Do you praise “Timmy” for the beautiful picture and tell him, “Please draw more, you’re so talented Timmy.” and act like it’s any normal picture. Or do you worry that “Timmy” might have problems?

    So a week later “Timmy” comes to you all excited to show you his new picture, again beautifully drawn he is an artist. Only this time the picture depicts “Timmy” with a smile on his face cutting the head off the cat while the family dog with multiple stab wounds lye’s dead in a pool of blood. Do you pat “Timmy” on the head and say “Make more please.”?

    So a week later “Timmy” shows up excited with his new picture, the quality is even better, which you didn’t think possible. This picture depicts “Timmy” with his blood butcher knife, the family pet stabbed and mutilated in the back ground, but this time instead of the cat “Timmy” is killing his 8 yr old sister with the knife, stabbing her multiple time. So this time you ask him “Timmy, do you want to kill the pets and your baby sister?”. “Timmy” say, “It’s just a fantasy I have, I would never do it.”

    So a week later “Timmy” comes to you all excited to show you his new picture. This picture depicts all your family pets, his sister and now you and your spouse, all being killed by “Timmy”. Again do you praise him and ask for more, or do you think he needs help? After all it’s just a fantasy, he would never do a thing like that.

    So a week later “Timmy” comes to you all excited to show you his new picture. This picture depicts “Timmy” at his school with a gun shooting his teacher with all his classmate dead in the back ground. Of course it’s just a fantasy and “Timmy” would never do anything like that.

    So a week later “Timmy” doesn’t come to you, instead you get a call from the police, “Timmy” is ok, the police have him in custody but half of his classmates are dead, along with his teacher, the other half of his classmate have various gunshot wounds.

    I know what you’re thinking; there is not suppose to be any 9 yr olds on this site, and no schools have ever been shot up by students, and no one on this site is a pedo! Another one of your fantasy’s???




    The content of this site is up to the owners, and unless they decide to make changes everything will stay the same, I’m sure it’s more about money then morality. I also know I don’t have to click on or read anything I don’t want to.

    So should we praise writers of pedo stories and encourage then to write more or should we realize they have a problem and not praise them and ask for more?

    What I am thinking is where would a 9 yr old get a gun, and who taught him how to use it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris4sylvia View Post
    What I am thinking is where would a 9 yr old get a gun, and who taught him how to use it....
    Sure avoid the real question, I knew someone would!!
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    In the end the legality of it doesn't really concern me, there are people damaging real children out there and it would be a complete waste of resources to focus on people that are writing erotic literature about kids but probably not actually hurting anyone.

    Simply put, there are bigger fish to fry.

    I question the personal implications of fueling the fire, so to speak, by indulging in those fantasies, but that's not anything absolute and that doesn't mean it should be criminalized.

    Some people would argue that the moral implications alone are reason enough to, I'm not one of those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily23XXX View Post
    Sure avoid the real question, I knew someone would!!
    Not avoiding the real question because it is subjective to individual minds..
    What is disgusting to you, can be acceptable to some-one else...

    As been stated before; the freedom this site allows you to comment on any topic, is also the same freedom that allows people to write about subjects that many of us find disgusting...

    If people allow censorship to be brought in onto this site and therefore stop all under-age sex stories, your ability to comment on any topic will also be censored...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris4sylvia View Post
    If people allow censorship to be brought in onto this site and therefore stop all under-age sex stories, your ability to comment on any topic will also be censored...
    A entire thread was deleted on Monday, which other then a self proclaimed pedo saying he was to young for this site (he should be banned) there was not other reason to delete it!

    Don't see you saying anything about that!
    This site has a age limit of 18, WHY?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris4sylvia View Post
    http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=182201

    http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=133808


    Next time try having a little common sense and use the search function... Above are just 2 of the numerous threads dealing with this subject....
    how come you don't post this same comment on the pedo threads? there are a lot more pedo threads with the same subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destor View Post
    I don't think you have any real understanding of Freedom of Speech laws, and use it purely as a justification.

    Freedom of speech does not allow you to say absolutely anything you want. There are limitations when it comes to extremely obscene or offensive material, and it is up to the discretion of the judge/jury to decide whether or not there has been a violation.

    Also, in the US, a real victim is NOT required for child porn laws to be broken. Guys have been arrested and convicted in America for posession and distribution of cartoon child pornography, despite a lack of real victims.

    I don't think child sex stories should be illegal, but don't try to use fallacious reasoning to justify it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie_J View Post
    lol Umm, define under-age...

    Yeah, if you consider the whole world the legal age of consent ranges from as low as 11 years old to 21. You know, with respect to the whole world there is only overall agreement when you're talking about adults having sex with very young children. For example; most would agree that an adult having sex with a 5 year old is taboo.

    Frankly, I consider these threads to show extreme arrogance and would like to see them curtailed... Ah, yes - my opinion only
    Well I think to be on this site you have to be 18, but even that is questionable anymore since one can state they are 16 and it be laughed off!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 33blacknshym View Post
    A entire thread was deleted on Monday, which other then a self proclaimed pedo saying he was to young for this site (he should be banned) there was not other reason to delete it!

    Don't see you saying anything about that!
    This site has a age limit of 18, WHY?
    Reason why is because I never saw it....
    I am on euro-time, and also have other things to do...
    I cannot comment on what I do not see, if the O.P. was under 18 then I guess the thread would be deleted. But as I have no idea of what the thread was, or who started it, then I cannot post any comment about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialKay View Post
    how come you don't post this same comment on the pedo threads? there are a lot more pedo threads with the same subject.
    Because everyone has already told the people in those threads about the numerous others..I guess you are just trolling to find any reason to make your ideas justified...

    This has been stated so many times
    You do realise that the freedom this site gives you to comment like this, is the same freedom this site gives others to write about incest and pedophilia...

    You CANNOT have 1 without the other...

    It is not a question about legality or morality, but CENSORSHIP...
    What gives you the right to say what can and cannot be wrote about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialKay View Post
    great post!
    Is it...Why did you not quote this post that explains it better than I can


    Quote Originally Posted by richief View Post
    It is fuck all to do with the Bill of Rights and freedom of speech that the Americans amongst us enjoy, this site is run out of a European country (I think). People who post underage sex stories, while immoral, are not breaking any laws, and to stop them posting would be censorship, so if you want them stopped then what is next, gay sex because homophobes don't like it, straight sex because gays don't like it, all sex because the religious zealots on here don't like it, keep going with the list in your head and when you reach the point we can start from let us know. And then we will tell you to fuck off because not doesn't break any rules on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris4sylvia View Post
    Reason why is because I never saw it....
    I am on euro-time, and also have other things to do...
    I cannot comment on what I do not see, if the O.P. was under 18 then I guess the thread would be deleted. But as I have no idea of what the thread was, or who started it, then I cannot post any comment about it...
    My time is GMT+2hrs (though at the end of this month it will be GMT+1hr), so if you are in New York and it is mid-day, it is 6pm where I am, and if it is midnight in New York then it is 6am where I am, and I am still asleep...

    If you want the answer to your question about WHY this site has the age limit of 18, then please ask a mod or Nophest, not me....
    This it the thread that pointed out the censorship Mod altered thread???
    The original OP of the thread I linked to in the 1st post was banned (littlegirllover) I don't know why, but in any-case his other threads still exist!

    Just thought you should know since you're so against censorship, that it does happen here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily23XXX View Post
    Sure avoid the real question, I knew someone would!!
    Okay, I'll try to answer this one. When my husband was around 10, he use to draw just such pictures...very abusive, very grotesque scenes that not only escalated in violence but obviously scared the shit out of his mother. So was my darling husband a psychopath in disguise? Nope, he is an extremely intelligent man who went through about a 5 year streak of wanting to be a comic book artist. He read comic books all the time, watched horror movies all the time, and came up with the some of the coolest, if very disturbing, comic book clips you could ever dream of. Kinda like the way Stephen King has come up with some of the most twisted shit ever...or Wes Craven.....You see where I'm going with this? Would I ask questions? Yes. But if all it boils down to is a very creative child with an amazing gift then I wouldn't worry.

    Now you are probably thinking that young children do not think about sex unless something is wrong with them or they have been abused. Do you even remember being a child? When I was 6, yes only 6 years old, I remembe watching this movie on tv that was set back in the 1920s or 1930s. Since I was so young my parents didn't think I would realize what was going on in this one particular scene, but I did. 2 masked bank robbers go into a bank with their tommy guns. One woman is screaming, having a total panic attack. One man tells the other to "Shut that bitch up!" So the guy shoves her face down on the counter, pushes her skirt up, and proceeds to fuck the hell outta her. And you know what? I LOVED it. It is my earliest memory of actually having any type of sexual response. It is also what has turned me on to BDSM. So yes, children that young can actually be sexually stimulated, although they probably won't really understand what's going on. And no, I wasn't sexually abused as a child.

    As for the whole freedom of speech thing and underaged stories, I don't read them. I practice my own freedom of personal choice and simply don't click on them. It's up to the owner's to decide what gets published on here. I've said it before, but here I go again: if you want a sex story site that does not allow underaged characters then go to Lush or Lit. Although I advise NOT starting threads on those other story sites to complain about how it is ran because it will get you banned quicker than you can say 'pervert.'

    Which brings me to a question of my own. Of the people who complain about underaged stories being posted on here, how many of them write letters and complain to the motion picture industry about how morally wrong the sick fuck was in all the SAW movies? Now THAT was some disturbing shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 33blacknshym View Post
    This it the thread that pointed out the censorship Mod altered thread???
    The original OP of the thread I linked to in the 1st post was banned (littlegirllover) I don't know why, but in any-case his other threads still exist!

    Just thought you should know since you're so against censorship, that it does happen here.
    I have just tried to view the thread you have high-lighted..I got this message...

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    Also about the thought of censorship and threads being deleted..This is from PIGGIT....
    Might be worth just reading the very last bit which I have high-lighted for you..Apart from that as I have already said, I did not see the thread in question and the time stamp I have of your thread, that raised the issue, is 2-54AM..I would be asleep curled up with my wife at that time in the morning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogusjoe1958 View Post
    Well, my turn to moan, about the lack of control when it comes to under-age stories. Now I am no prude, and Iam live and let live when it comes to most things, but well kiddie sex is well, perverted to say the least.

    Now it's no good people saying well my Dad fucked me when I was 13, and still does and I am normal, cos I;ll say your not your abused and will be an abuser.

    Sorry folks kids are kids, let them experiment with their own age, we all did the fumbling in the dark at 13, adults stick to adults, there's plenty to look at and fuck. If you insist on doing it, go and find a big cliff and jump off, or better still blow your brains out. If your a woman your an even bigger sad fuck up
    Right on!
    It's just really sick when they post those stories about abuse(they say it's not but we all know it is). And the kids grown up to be abusers and the cycle keeps going and going.
    Few people reading those stories may start to think that way and start doing the same thing to kids. It's wrong especially since the kids wouldn't have wanted it to happen if they were only old enough to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destor View Post
    I don't think you have any real understanding of Freedom of Speech laws, and use it purely as a justification.

    Freedom of speech does not allow you to say absolutely anything you want. There are limitations when it comes to extremely obscene or offensive material, and it is up to the discretion of the judge/jury to decide whether or not there has been a violation.

    Also, in the US, a real victim is NOT required for child porn laws to be broken. Guys have been arrested and convicted in America for posession and distribution of cartoon child pornography, despite a lack of real victims.

    I don't think child sex stories should be illegal, but don't try to use fallacious reasoning to justify it.
    It's not up to the jury to decide what the limits on speech are. The Supreme Court establishes that. The juries function is to decide from the evidence if the limits have been exceeded.
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    Freedom of speech while being part of the first amendment is in reality a political being. It gets changed whenever the mood of the country changes. For a good while almost any speech that wasn't defamatory was protected.
    Then it was limited under the guise that a person was not free to yell fire in a crowded theater.

    Then things went along for a while until the obscenity cases came along. They got decided because of Playboy and Penthouse and Hustler creating a hue and cry from the public. Nothing had really changed but the public was now upset so the Supreme Court in essence said no more obscenity. When it came time to describe what obscenity was the best the Court could do was to say "I can't explain what it is but I know it when I see it." Not much help but prosecutors all over the US ran with it and was trying to put everyone in jail.

    Next the Supreme Court that whether something was obscene was to be decided by the contemporary standard in the country. Since it was impossible to prove what that was almost all prosecutions stopped. Next the Court said no that a local standard could be used and back came the prosecutions in non-metropolitan areas.

    A few years ago because of the Catholic Church's involvement in child abuse such abuse became the poster child for the parents, especially the mothers, in the US and there were new laws passed. Never in the US could someone be convicted of conduct without an act toward committing the crime and a victim. But the mood of the country was that the people wanted something done and the Supreme Court bowing to the political climate as they do held that the mere possession of a picture of a naked child would support a conviction. To draw such a picture wisa crime. It's not necessary to be a pedophile or to do anything to be convicted in the US. Overzealous prosecutors do it everyday.

    The last straw before the pendulum swings back and it will swing back is that now a person can be charged in the US for acts committed in other countries where it is legal to engage in those acts. Their are tours to Thailand for pedophiles to engage with young boys. This is all perfectly legal in Thailand but the men were (are) changed on their return to the US. This would equivalent to charging a person for smoking in a bar in France when they returned to NY because it is illegal in NY.

    Personally I don't approve of such conduct with children but I disagree with the laws that provide for convictions where there is no victim and those where no crime has been committed.
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    I say let pedophiles deal with their perversions in what ever way they can, as long as it doesn't hurt any (real) being. I don't know why non-pedophiles think they should get a vote, as soon as you start feeling sexual attraction to children, then I will listen to your opinions on how to deal with those attractions.

    I like cuckold fantasies yet in reality I don't want my lover to cheat.
    I like underage fantasies yet I've never felt the urge to touch a real child.
    I like rape fantasies yet I've never not stopped if a girl said no.
    I like incest fantasies yet I've never fucked a family member.
    I like bestiality fantasies and yet I've never stuck my dick in livestock.

    I keep my fantasies out of reality when there is a chance that someone could be hurt by them. How about you keep your morals out of my fantasies?

    God knows I could try to repress my fantasy life just to please your inner sense of justice. I have a theory that many men have become catholic priest trying to repress their "dirty evil" thoughts, and I wonder how that turns out....
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    I SAY HOOAH!! Very well said my friend
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    The FBI includes written material as child pornography.

    I understand the host for this site is in New York, USA
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    Degenerate - Couldn't have said it better myself. There sure a lot of self-righteous bastards on this forum who love to moralise when they aren't talking about fucking each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlH View Post
    The FBI includes written material as child pornography.
    FOR REALZ? You'd think they'd start arresting some of these authors then!!1! I mean some of the net authors have been posting stories for over 20 years! They must be super elite hackers that jump from location to location to avoid arrest from the FBI, yea that must be it!

    Anyway now that I'm done making fun of you... how about you make a plausible suggestion as to how pedo's can relieve their desires (without hurting the kiddies) that doesn't involve celibacy or castration?

    Or are you just another whiner that thinks pedos should not exist and we should all go jump off a bridge because our very existence offends you. Well I for one, LOVE offending you, so I think your fucked.... by pedos.... in your no no place.... sorry.
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    I'm more disturbed by people who create movies like "Saw", "Final Destination" and other obvious snuff films. Not to mention shows like "Criminal Minds" and "Dexter". People who watch them are also disturbing to me.

    I wish there were some test. People who think murder is entertainment shouldn't be allowed to work in places where they might have an opportunity to turn their fantasy into reality. At a minimum, they shouldn't be allowed to own knives or guns. Maybe they should have to register so you know if they're in your community.

    Murder isn't as criminally wrong as sex with a 17 year old, of course, or oral sex in states where that's still illegal. But we should still be concerned.
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