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    Jack Straw, the former home secretary, has come under fire after accusing some Pakistani men in Britain of seeing white girls as “easy meat” for sexual abuse. A row broke out after the Blackburn MP talked of a “specific problem” involving Pakistani men and called on the community to be “more open” about the issue. His comments came just days after an investigation by The Times revealed the sexual exploitation of hundreds of young girls mostly involving Pakistani men and the day that two Asian men who subjected a series of vulnerable girls to rapes and sexual assaults were given indefinite jail terms. Abid Mohammed Saddique, 27, was jailed for a minimum of 11 years at Nottingham Crown Court and Mohammed Romaan Liaqat, 28, was told he must serve at least eight.
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    What do you want us to say?

    The only thing I have to offer is my personal experience: I have met many very charming, very hardworking Pakistanis of the older generation. I have seen the way that Pakistani children behave, and they behave largely like most children.

    I have never encountered a group of people so predictably arrogant and unpleasant as Pakistanis between the ages of sixteen and thirty. I feel that their parents and grandparents must want to weep when they see them. They are rude, abusive - to complete strangers, no less - and inconsiderate.

    There is, unfortunately, a reason why this demographic gets a bad name, and it's nothing to do with the old ones.
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    What do you want us to say?

    The only thing I have to offer is my personal experience: I have met many very charming, very hardworking Pakistanis of the older generation. I have seen the way that Pakistani children behave, and they behave largely like most children.

    I have never encountered a group of people so predictably arrogant and unpleasant as Pakistanis between the ages of sixteen and thirty. I feel that their parents and grandparents must want to weep when they see them. They are rude, abusive - to complete strangers, no less - and inconsiderate.

    There is, unfortunately, a reason why this demographic gets a bad name, and it's nothing to do with the old ones.
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    It's a strange topic (from the point of view of someone this side of the pond).

    I've never even been chatted up by someone of Asian origin/descent, but that's probably to do with the fact that I live in a part of the UK where the population is predominately the cliched 'white anglo saxon protestants'.
    Even the nearest large city to me has an ethnic population of less than 4% (I'm taking that figure from Wikipedia though- so it may not be wholy accurate)

    I think that this 'news article' is more the result of a newspaper (and a very right-wing one at that) getting itself into an excited (and possibly racist) twist over nothing.

    However, there are cities in the north of England where there are larger proportions of people of Asian origin, so it is entirely possible that you may hear different stories from people who live in (for instance) Bradford, Manchester or even Birmingham.



    Personally I am bemused by the report in the OP - it seems a bit unlikely to me, but (as I said) it might be more realistic in some of the northern 'inner-city areas'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayneyRedd View Post
    It's a strange topic (from the point of view of someone this side of the pond).

    I've never even been chatted up by someone of Asian origin/descent, but that's probably to do with the fact that I live in a part of the UK where the population is predominately the cliched 'white anglo saxon protestants'.
    Even the nearest large city to me has an ethnic population of less than 4% (I'm taking that figure from Wikipedia though- so it may not be wholy accurate)

    I think that this 'news article' is more the result of a newspaper (and a very right-wing one at that) getting itself into an excited (and possibly racist) twist over nothing.

    However, there are cities in the north of England where there are larger proportions of people of Asian origin, so it is entirely possible that you may hear different stories from people who live in (for instance) Bradford, Manchester or even Birmingham.



    Personally I am bemused by the report in the OP - it seems a bit unlikely to me, but (as I said) it might be more realistic in some of the northern 'inner-city areas'.
    Sad to say, coming from Glasgow and noting the ages of the defendants, it seems all too possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayneyRedd View Post
    It's a strange topic (from the point of view of someone this side of the pond).

    I've never even been chatted up by someone of Asian origin/descent, but that's probably to do with the fact that I live in a part of the UK where the population is predominately the cliched 'white anglo saxon protestants'.
    Even the nearest large city to me has an ethnic population of less than 4% (I'm taking that figure from Wikipedia though- so it may not be wholy accurate)

    I think that this 'news article' is more the result of a newspaper (and a very right-wing one at that) getting itself into an excited (and possibly racist) twist over nothing.

    However, there are cities in the north of England where there are larger proportions of people of Asian origin, so it is entirely possible that you may hear different stories from people who live in (for instance) Bradford, Manchester or even Birmingham.



    Personally I am bemused by the report in the OP - it seems a bit unlikely to me, but (as I said) it might be more realistic in some of the northern 'inner-city areas'.
    You may have me there. The validity of the source is something I have no way of judging.
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    Nooo, please.... I'm only giving my opinion based on my personal experiences down here in the (remarkably quaint) South-West of England.

    As I was trying to point out, I can easily imagine that things are different in the inner-city areas of some of the larger cities, but I haven't personally experienced them.
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    this has been an issue for the past 5 years but mp's and the police are under to much pressure not to say anything bad about anyone
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    Yes it happens, not so much in Birmingham, but up in Bradford where the Pakistanis seem to outnumber the whites it is a major problem.

    Edit> I wouldn't call the reporting for the Times unbalanced or biased.
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    Edit> I wouldn't call the reporting for the Times unbalanced or biased.
    That's probably true - if that report had been in the Daily Mail it would certainly have been riding on a wave of historic 'Old English' thoughts, and an underlying current of jingoistic and barely suppressed racism - nevertheless I stand by my original premise that the newspaper in question (The Times) is terribly staid and right-wing, and that the truth is probably somewhat less shocking than the report appears to make it seem.
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    The Times report is accurate. He's been accused of racial stereotyping and tarring all Pakistanis with the same brush.

    That he said "It would be utterly wrong to suggest that all Pakistanis behave this way, or even that it is more than a tiny minority of them" - or words to that effect - was reported earlier in the Times, but was missed out of many reports and has been cheerfully ignored by all the people now railing against him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayneyRedd View Post
    That's probably true - if that report had been in the Daily Mail it would certainly have been riding on a wave of historic 'Old English' thoughts, and an underlying current of jingoistic and barely suppressed racism - nevertheless I stand by my original premise that the newspaper in question (The Times) is terribly staid and right-wing, and that the truth is probably somewhat less shocking than the report appears to make it seem.
    It happens hun, this isn't the first case of it happening, when I worked over in the Blackcounty, we dealt with a true consensus of patients from all ethnic groupings, Poles, Africans, Asians from all sub continent countries, the one group that showed no or little respect for female nurses was the grouping identified earlier. 16 - 30ish and the age limit is rising as the population grows older, it is not a religious thing as the Banglideshi muslims are polite, it is a problem of the Pakistani community, they have a distinct dislike of all other ethnicities especially blacks and whites. However it is not all of the community the same as not all whites are raving members of the BNP. However it only takes a certain percentage of the community to make them all look bad, certain areas of Smallheath, and Sparkhill in Brum and Tipton in Sandwell is very unsafe for young white girls to walk alone, at day time never mind the night. I have been told by colleagues and patients that they feel safer in predominately white and black areas.

    The Times may appear stuff shirted and right wing, I consider it to be right of centre as the Telegraph is left of centre, and both have integrity in reporting, unlike the Express and Mail which are no better than the Red Tops, Tabloids for people who don't like to look at tits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyesey View Post
    The Times report is accurate. He's been accused of racial stereotyping and tarring all Pakistanis with the same brush.

    That he said "It would be utterly wrong to suggest that all Pakistanis behave this way, or even that it is more than a tiny minority of them" - or words to that effect - was reported earlier in the Times, but was missed out of many reports and has been cheerfully ignored by all the people now railing against him.
    So Jack Straw is being pillioried despite having previously stated that he was referring to a minority?

    I am most certainly not a supporter of Jack Straw, nor the political party he represents, but he seems to be being crucified unnecessarily here.



    It seems to be the usual newspaper thing - they're making contentious subjects to sell papers with....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayneyRedd View Post
    So Jack Straw is being pillioried despite having previously stated that he was referring to a minority?
    Well, there wouldn't be a big story if everyone paid attention to what he ACTUALLY said...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyesey View Post
    Well, there wouldn't be a big story if everyone paid attention to what he ACTUALLY said...

    yeah....silly me I suppose


    Too much to expect accurate reporting from the fourth estate.
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    I have just returned to London, where, I have lived since I was 11. I have been away for four years, living as an ethnic minority in a monocultural part of the world, amassing a host of stories to tell to disbelieving friends. On the whole, I am glad to return. I shan't miss some locals' assumptions that, being a white woman, if I was outside after dark, as I occasionally was, usually to walk the few metres between my house and the church, I must be a prostitute eager to give them a blow job. I shan't miss the abuse my priest husband received: the daubing of "Dirty white dogs" in red paint on the church door, the barrage of stones thrown at him by children shouting "Satan". He was called a "f***ing white bastard" more than once, though, notably, never when in a cassock. I will also not miss the way our garden acted as the local rubbish dump, with items ranging from duvets and TV sets, to rats (dead or twitching) glued to cardboard strips, a popular local method of vermin control to stem the large numbers of them which scuttled between the rubbish piled in gardens and on pavements. Yes, I am very glad to have left Britain's second city.

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    This has UK stamped all over it!

    If it was a few white men preying on asian/black kids it would be an acceptible remark.

    But as the Pakistani race is a protected characteristic (like all races) and "white" girls were singled out as targets, it somehow became racist in nature (or so I assume is what the upset was all about). Someone probably translated it to say, "We white people have a problem with the pakis targeting our white girls". Shock horror! That is being misinformed if the fact that the country population is mainly of white people, and the MP was also white, was a connection for some airhead to assume it was to be offensive.

    Neither "pakistani" or "white girl" were used without it being a qualified article in the sentences it was used in - to the same extent that if any specifics that a press reports matches a stereotype (not that this is one of them) it isn't wrong if it is correct. If it relates to a criminal offence were a person was prosecuted for it, then its usage is proper and not offensive.

    This is the European political correctness nonsense again...

    It is WRONG to state that a few people from a MINORITY ETHNIC GROUP is responsible for harming (in any context of the word depending on the situation) some people of a MAJORITY GROUP.

    However, it is CORRECT to state that a few people from a MAJORITY GROUP is responsible for harming some people of a MINORITY ETHNIC GROUP if that was the case.

    It wouldn't even matter if the percentages weighed out so the numbers involved were actually equal. I see this as nothing less than racism in itself. Why is it wrong to say that a few pakistani men see white girls in a derogative way if it is indeed true? It would only be wrong if it was worded to imply that ALL pakistanis were targeting white women if not true, but what I read was all which is specified was just some of that group.
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    So Jack Straw is being pillioried despite having previously stated that he was referring to a minority?

    I am most certainly not a supporter of Jack Straw, nor the political party he represents, but he seems to be being crucified unnecessarily here.



    It seems to be the usual newspaper thing - they're making contentious subjects to sell papers with....
    ..... who is Jack Straw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stumbler View Post
    ..... who is Jack Straw?
    Even according your own OP, he's the former Home Secretary
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    Quote Originally Posted by stumbler View Post
    ..... who is Jack Straw?
    Labour MP, Former Home Secretary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by richief View Post
    It happens hun, this isn't the first case of it happening, when I worked over in the Blackcounty, we dealt with a true consensus of patients from all ethnic groupings, Poles, Africans, Asians from all sub continent countries, the one group that showed no or little respect for female nurses was the grouping identified earlier. 16 - 30ish and the age limit is rising as the population grows older, it is not a religious thing as the Banglideshi muslims are polite, it is a problem of the Pakistani community, they have a distinct dislike of all other ethnicities especially blacks and whites.
    I'm not sure if the affirmation of my post is heartening or disheartening.
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    Even according your own OP, he's the former Home Secretary
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    OK. I thought he was the equivalent of our white supremacists. You do have one of those parties don't you?

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    I'm not sure if the affirmation of my post is heartening or disheartening.
    My experience of late would put money on the disheartening. Glen Morange (which I see once a year) helps with that. But not all that much.
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    OK. I thought he was the equivalent of our white supremacists. You do have one of those parties don't you?



    My experience of late would put money on the disheartening. Glen Morange (which I see once a year) helps with that. But not all that much.
    The BNP is probably the one you're thinking of, I think!!
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    That is over hyped right wing rhetoric, yes we have "ghettos" in Brum, but we have no "police no go" areas, I am guessing to the area this woman refers as she said
    When we arrived, the population was predominantly Pakistani. Now Somalis are there in equal number. Most of the run-down Irish pubs were turned into mosques during our time.
    The districts with that match of ethnicity is Small Heath, Sparkbrook, Sparkhill areas, they are definitely not no go areas, yes they are a majority of Pakistanis and Somalis there but the crime rate is no higher than any similar area of the city.

    Edit: I just remembered this is the Balti Triangle area of the city, so there is a lot of white people going in and out of there for meals at all times of the night, if it was as bad as the article author says then the restaurants would not survive, and as of last night it is still busy.



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    Very disheartening as the parents though stand offish are polite.
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    I wonder if the 2011 Census will provide an accurate representation of people in the UK this time round... I doubt it.
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    What do you want us to say?

    The only thing I have to offer is my personal experience: I have met many very charming, very hardworking Pakistanis of the older generation. I have seen the way that Pakistani children behave, and they behave largely like most children.

    I have never encountered a group of people so predictably arrogant and unpleasant as Pakistanis between the ages of sixteen and thirty. I feel that their parents and grandparents must want to weep when they see them. They are rude, abusive - to complete strangers, no less - and inconsiderate.

    There is, unfortunately, a reason why this demographic gets a bad name, and it's nothing to do with the old ones.

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