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    Default Female teacher convicted of sex with 15 year old boy

    A female teacher,42, was convicted of having sex with and videotaping the encounters with a 15 year old male in Queens,NY and received a 90 day jail sentence.
    Is this fair or a double standard? I think a male teacher convicted of having sex with a 15 year old female or male would be punished more harshly.
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    Have you got the link to the article please?

    I think if that is all she got then they don't take child abuse very seriously there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtygirl666 View Post
    Have you got the link to the article please?

    I think if that is all she got then they don't take child abuse very seriously there.
    I read it in newspaper so I don't have link but she received 10 years probation as well and has to register as sex offender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilburjorgeafraidya View Post
    A female teacher,42, was convicted of having sex with and videotaping the encounters with a 15 year old male in Queens,NY and received a 90 day jail sentence.
    Is this fair or a double standard? I think a male teacher convicted of having sex with a 15 year old female or male would be punished more harshly.
    Because she was videotaping the encounter she was creating child pornography. As a result she certainly should have received more than a 90 day jail sentence. I have read of men who have been sentenced to several years in prison for having photographs on their computer hard drives that they did not even create; they just downloaded them from websites.

    Nevertheless, it is true that most sexually mature males enjoy casual sex and sexual variety, and that most sexually mature females do not. Laws against child abuse should take this into account.

    Nearly everyone who brings charges of sexual abuse brings it against men. I cannot remember a single case where a man came forward, said that when he was fifteen years old a woman coerced him into having sex with her, and that it left deep emotional scars.

    The double standard is seen by some as suggesting that promiscuous men should be admired as studs, lady's men, and so on. I do not think those men should be admired. I do see the double standard as a traditional and wise acknowledgment that there are basic differences between male and female sexuality. This means that when a man has sex with a fifteen year old girl it should be regarded as a more serious offense than if a woman has sex with a fifteen year old boy.
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    I can understand why, technically, this is child abuse - but find me a fifteen year old herosexual male who's not gagging to bang his fit teacher?

    I highly doubt that he would have needed any coercion whatsoever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distant Lover View Post
    Because she was videotaping the encounter she was creating child pornography. As a result she certainly should have received more than a 90 day jail sentence. I have read of men who have been sentenced to several years in prison for having photographs on their computer hard drives that they did not even create; they just downloaded them from websites.

    Nevertheless, it is true that most sexually mature males enjoy casual sex and sexual variety, and that most sexually mature females do not. Laws against child abuse should take this into account.

    Nearly everyone who brings charges of sexual abuse brings it against men. I cannot remember a single case where a man came forward, said that when he was fifteen years old a woman coerced him into having sex with her, and that it left deep emotional scars.

    The double standard is seen by some as suggesting that promiscuous men should be admired as studs, lady's men, and so on. I do not think those men should be admired. I do see the double standard as a traditional and wise acknowledgment that there are basic differences between male and female sexuality. This means that when a man has sex with a fifteen year old girl it should be regarded as a more serious offense than if a woman has sex with a fifteen year old boy.
    The fact that this woman was his teacher and therefore is put in a position of trust, which she has clearly violated, alone should be reason why she faces a much harsher sentence. Then add in the fact this child was under the age of legal consent and it's child abuse, whether he was willing or not.

    This woman should of known better. If this had happened here in the UK the woman would still be facing a much longer sentence in prison, regardless of any double standards. A crime has been commited, a very serious crime and it need to be dealt with as one. 90 days in prison and 10 years probation is a joke!
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    Quote Originally Posted by x__orion View Post
    I can understand why, technically, this is child abuse - but find me a fifteen year old herosexual male who's not gagging to bang his fit teacher?

    I highly doubt that he would have needed any coercion whatsoever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by x__orion View Post
    I can understand why, technically, this is child abuse - but find me a fifteen year old herosexual male who's not gagging to bang his fit teacher?

    I highly doubt that he would have needed any coercion whatsoever!
    Makes no difference what so ever. She was in the position of trust and she took advantage of this. As a responsible adult this should never have happened.
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    Truthfully she wasn't his teacher. He was a friend of her stepson I believe.Also most 15 year old males wouldn't mind it one bit,I agree but as to what one poster said from the picture I saw she wasn't fit.
    I didn't even consider the "child pornography' angle so for that alone she should face jail time. If someone videotaped a consensual act with a female under the age of 18 even if she was old enough for the sex act,the filming would be considered child pornography in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distant Lover View Post

    Nearly everyone who brings charges of sexual abuse brings it against men. I cannot remember a single case where a man came forward, said that when he was fifteen years old a woman coerced him into having sex with her, and that it left deep emotional scars.

    One of my closest friends (who sadly I am not in regular contact with anymore) challenged me on this. His mom's best friend forced sex on him when he was around 13. He suffers lingering emotional/sexual scars at 25--the most prominent of them being psychologically triggered ED.

    He is the most charismatic guy I know. All the girls love him but he has poor body image and low self-esteem about his bedroom abilities. Wow. Just thinking about this makes me want to give him a call. Hopefully he won't be like "what the fuck do you want?"....


    That being said, the teacher in this scenario should NOT have to spend a single day in jail. What she did was delightful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by origen01 View Post
    One of my closest friends (who sadly I am not in regular contact with anymore) challenged me on this. His mom's best friend forced sex on him when he was around 13. He suffers lingering emotional/sexual scars at 25--the most prominent of them being psychologically triggered ED.

    He is the most charismatic guy I know. All the girls love him but he has poor body image and low self-esteem about his bedroom abilities. Wow. Just thinking about this makes me want to give him a call. Hopefully he won't be like "what the fuck do you want?"....


    That being said, the teacher in this scenario should NOT have to spend a single day in jail. What she did was delightful.
    Now I have heard of a single case of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x__orion View Post
    I can understand why, technically, this is child abuse - but find me a fifteen year old herosexual male who's not gagging to bang his fit teacher?

    I highly doubt that he would have needed any coercion whatsoever!
    As others have said, it's not about whether he gave his consent. She was in a position of power, and he was at an age where he is presumed not to be able to exercise sound judgement about such matters.

    I do think there's a double standard at work here, and that she received too light a sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x__orion View Post
    I can understand why, technically, this is child abuse - but find me a fifteen year old herosexual male who's not gagging to bang his fit teacher?

    I highly doubt that he would have needed any coercion whatsoever!
    I've had any number of fifteen year old heterosexual females who were gagging for me to bang them. I seriously doubt that I would have got away with only ninety days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distant Lover View Post
    Nearly everyone who brings charges of sexual abuse brings it against men. I cannot remember a single case where a man came forward, said that when he was fifteen years old a woman coerced him into having sex with her, and that it left deep emotional scars.
    I wonder why that might be...

    Maybe it's because men are men, and most men aren't going be as willing to openly admit to being harmed by something like this as women are, even a lot of women are reluctant to come out with stuff like this.

    It's slightly ignorant to believe, in this day and age, that middle aged women having sex with young boy like this comes with no repercussions. Go do some reading, there are TONS of men that suffer lasting psychological scars from experiences like these.

    Obviously not nearly as many as women, but it's generally believed that female child abuse is vastly underreported.
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    Just 90 days? Thats like, nothing. Yeah, definitely a double standard. She deserves a longer prison term, the pervert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destor View Post
    I wonder why that might be...

    Maybe it's because men are men, and most men aren't going be as willing to openly admit to being harmed by something like this as women are, even a lot of women are reluctant to come out with stuff like this.

    It's slightly ignorant to believe, in this day and age, that middle aged women having sex with young boy like this comes with no repercussions. Go do some reading, there are TONS of men that suffer lasting psychological scars from experiences like these.

    Obviously not nearly as many as women, but it's generally believed that female child abuse is vastly underreported.
    A woman in her forties can still look good, especially if she is fit and trim. I would need to read the news story, but I doubt that there was any coercion, and I suspect that the 15 year old boy loved it. He may have bragged to his friends. Perhaps that is how they story got out, and she was arrested.

    I think some punishment was called for, but this seems like a victimless crime. My guess is that word got out, and the boy's mother brought charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distant Lover View Post
    A woman in her forties can still look good, especially if she is fit and trim. I would need to read the news story, but I doubt that there was any coercion, and I suspect that the 15 year old boy loved it. He may have bragged to his friends. Perhaps that is how they story got out, and she was arrested.

    I think some punishment was called for, but this seems like a victimless crime. My guess is that word got out, and the boy's mother brought charges.
    From the picture I saw she wasn't hot.
    I doubt there was coercion but the story didn't mention if the "boy" was victimized and I doubt it.
    Just is a double standard. I bet if a gay man in his fourties and a gay 15 year old had sex and it was video'd he'd get more time.
    And if was 2 lesbians they would give the older woman a pass.
    People in US don't like to put women in jail-even when they murder their kids.
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    Is this the case that the Hufrington Post was talking about where the teacher sexed 5 of the players on the football team , then plead insanity?? Oh no, that was the Stacey Schuler case.... But was this the case where the female teacher almost started a race riot because she was white and the students were black and the racial tensions were inflamed? Oh no! That was the Alllena Ward case. Sorry. Never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distant Lover View Post
    A woman in her forties can still look good, especially if she is fit and trim. I would need to read the news story, but I doubt that there was any coercion, and I suspect that the 15 year old boy loved it. He may have bragged to his friends. Perhaps that is how they story got out, and she was arrested.

    I think some punishment was called for, but this seems like a victimless crime. My guess is that word got out, and the boy's mother brought charges.
    You are making a lot of assumptions here, which appear to be incorrect. Firstly, the woman is not fit. Secondly as far as I can tell from searching down articles, the boy turned the videos into police and that is when their relationship came to the surface.

    I don't think you're grasping the concept of lasting psychological damage here. Kids in situations like this may enjoy what happened at the time, that fact alone may cause all kinds of issues as they grow up with those memories.

    Guys who say they wish they were used by older women like this (or that these boys are lucky) clearly have no idea of the potential long term consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itiswhatitis View Post
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    As to the OP, she got a lighter sentence because of the double standards around this sort of thing, if it was a male he would be pilloried and certain members here would want his heat over the city gates, that said most young males would love the chance but hebephilia is a crime if the teen is under the state statutory age and he was so she should have had a sentence commensurate with the crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richief View Post
    ...that said most young males would love the chance ....

    It's my experience that most young females would love the chance, but that is never given as a reason for going light on a man convicted of sleeping with them.
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    Here is one link

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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtygirl666 View Post
    Have you got the link to the article please?

    I think if that is all she got then they don't take child abuse very seriously there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimiko View Post
    As others have said, it's not about whether he gave his consent. She was in a position of power, and he was at an age where he is presumed not to be able to exercise sound judgement about such matters.

    I do think there's a double standard at work here, and that she received too light a sentence.
    It's certainly an abuse of power - but is it sexual abuse?

    At fifteen, teenage males know exactly what they're doing. He knew they weren't going to sit in the back of her car and hold hands, that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distant Lover View Post
    Because she was videotaping the encounter she was creating child pornography. As a result she certainly should have received more than a 90 day jail sentence. I have read of men who have been sentenced to several years in prison for having photographs on their computer hard drives that they did not even create; they just downloaded them from websites.

    Nevertheless, it is true that most sexually mature males enjoy casual sex and sexual variety, and that most sexually mature females do not. Laws against child abuse should take this into account.

    Nearly everyone who brings charges of sexual abuse brings it against men. I cannot remember a single case where a man came forward, said that when he was fifteen years old a woman coerced him into having sex with her, and that it left deep emotional scars.

    The double standard is seen by some as suggesting that promiscuous men should be admired as studs, lady's men, and so on. I do not think those men should be admired. I do see the double standard as a traditional and wise acknowledgment that there are basic differences between male and female sexuality. This means that when a man has sex with a fifteen year old girl it should be regarded as a more serious offense than if a woman has sex with a fifteen year old boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x__orion View Post
    It's certainly an abuse of power - but is it sexual abuse?

    At fifteen, teenage males know exactly what they're doing.
    The law says they don't, therefore it is sexual abuse by definition.


    And, getting back to the original point. Why do you say teenage males? Are you implying that teenage females don't know what they're doing?
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