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    Quote Originally Posted by wantsomefun View Post
    Points covered:

    1. ejls started the whole CAW concept.
    2. ejls won CAW #10, so she is the Hostess of CAW #11.
    3. The CAW Host/Hostess sets the Challenge theme and spells out the rules.
    4. ejls talked about proposed standardized rules (to help to deal with the kinds of shit people did the last time) with several members with whom she communicates periodically.
    5. We gave input.
    6. She put it all together into a list, and rather than be all draconian and heavy-handed, which she has every right to be, since it was her idea in the first place, she stated this thread.
    7. Numerous people have posted to it, some to suggest ideas, some to fight.


    Now, for God's sake, let's just post the fucking rules and have ourselves a writing challenge.

    You can't please all the people all the time, particularly those who don't participate in the CAWs in any way except to complain.

    So, who's ready to write?
    Indeed I'm waiting all day here... how am I supposed to post a story when I don't know what the story is about? And no I don't care if I win... I probably will lose... because that's the history...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejls View Post
    Considering the dishonesty that was displayed in the last CAW, I am not expecting anything. Never did I imagine that anyone would stoop so low as to cheat the way they did. More than one member lied, and lied to everyone involved in the CAW.

    As far as my capacity - it's none of your damn business. I will do what has to be done to protect the integrity of the honest and talented writers here. If I sound overly protective of them and the CAW, then so be it. I am.

    Too many people have already tried to ruin it, and for what reason? You act like I'm the enemy. Why don't you point your finger at the members who cheated and lied? I don't hear you blaming them for causing any of this.

    Rutger5 was right. This is my CAW to run. Nothing you can say will stop me from running it.
    Oh come on!

    No one has tried to ruin the upcoming CAW. There have been suggestions all of which, including mine, have been given with the aim of making the contest better.

    This may have been started by you but you don't own it; the forum members do.

    The changes you are going to ram through are the rules for future CAWs and some of us would like to see that Going Forward CAWs are not only fair but fun to enter and be involved in, either as a contestant or a reader.

    As far as your capacity is concerned : well actually it is my and everyone else's business. This is a members run event and as such the Organizer is limited. Members don't know which accounts are socks or for whom. That's just the way it is, cheating in this event isn't a banning offense so there's no need to check, after all there's no prize money.
    The members who cheated and lied.

    Rachel baby face was assassinated, I don't believe for a minute that that wasn't concocted; shed been here for a while, her stories had huge read numbers, she's walking away with the contest and suddenly she's under 18 and some infalliable impartial hardly ever looks at Caws but by coincidence does this time member tells you she's under 18.

    He's know for ages but just chooses right then to tell you. Yeah right.

    Angelwhatever15. Who checked, why did anyone check? Why then? Why not before?

    No ones bitch. Yes entered another story. That's cheating. It wasn't her intention- although in doing what she did she was cheating. She wanted to prove a point , shame really because the second story was better than the first- in my opinion.

    So that's one deliberate act in ten CAWs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer View Post
    This may have been started by you but you don't own it; the forum members do.
    Not what she said, Mr. Word Twister. She said it is hers to run because she won #10. Nice try, though, 'cept I'm fully on to you now and am going to call you out each and every time you try and twist things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer View Post
    The changes you are going to ram through /snip/
    Argumentative. Not productive at all. Not true. I would have rammed them through. Ejls posted the proposed changes for constructive comment, not destructive comment, as you are now getting famous for. Do you see anyone running to your aid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer View Post
    Rachel baby face was assassinated, I don't believe for a minute that that wasn't concocted; shed been here for a while, her stories had huge read numbers, she's walking away with the contest and suddenly she's under 18 and some infalliable impartial hardly ever looks at Caws but by coincidence does this time member tells you she's under 18.

    He's know for ages but just chooses right then to tell you. Yeah right.
    Nut case. Loose cannon. Wacko. All three describe the kind of person who believes the above. If she was so wronged, how come she has never been back? Even under a sock account, she has not once tried to step forward and defend herself. Why? Guilty as discovered.

    So now you're a conspiracy theorist. Wow...that really shouldn't surprise me, but it is gonna' go a long way in convincing the rest of the people on this forum that you're simply wacky.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer View Post
    No ones bitch. Yes entered another story. That's cheating. It wasn't her intention- although in doing what she did she was cheating. She wanted to prove a point , shame really because the second story was better than the first- in my opinion.
    It wasn't her intention? Really? Did she trip and fall and press the copy/paste/submit button in her efforts to stop her fall? She not only entered an extra story (and pulled a third), but she voted FIVE TIMES. Was that an accident too, not her intention? You defend the lying scumbag that she was (her tearjerker story was a lie, it wasn't her kid, so dry your tears), you defend underage people here who lie about their photos..............what kind of credibility do you think that gives you?
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    This reacting to and replying to every comment made about the rules and history of the challenge has gotten redonkulous... It's an endless exercise in futility and it has got to stop.

    EJLS: Please my lady, announce that this discussion is over because the rules and condition for the next challenge have been decided and they will soon be posted.

    THE REST OF YOU: S.T.F.U and wait for ejls to post the theme of the challenge and the rules.

    With no offence intended to anyone.

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    Let's all relax nao. I'll give out the backrubz. Horse, light the fire in the fireplace. PP, grab the wine. ELP, get the blankets and lay them by the fire. ejls, lock the door

    Backrubz: commence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrive View Post
    This reacting to and replying to every comment made about the rules and history of the challenge has gotten redonkulous... It's an endless exercise in futility and it has got to stop.

    EJLS: Please my lady, announce that this discussion is over because the rules and condition for the next challenge have been decided and they will soon be posted.

    THE REST OF YOU: S.T.F.U and wait for ejls to post the theme of the challenge and the rules.

    With no offence intended to anyone.

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    Honestly, Hardrive is right. So many threads turn into endless argument and it's just senseless.
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    I just got a PM from someone that was offended by my telling everyone to STFU so we can get on with the challenge. Again, let me say that there was no intent to offend anyone. I'd just like to see this bickering end as it can serve no purpose other than to damage the CAW Challenge.

    It is my opinion that these endless arguments need to end. Of course, that is only my opinion and I'm only making a suggestion. Most of the people here are my friends and I don't want to offend any of them or loose their friendship over an argument of which I am not a part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrive View Post
    I just got a PM from someone that was offended by my telling everyone to STFU so we can get on with the challenge.
    Did you tell that person to STFU?
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    No, it was a generic STFU. Next time I'll just say "We should all COOL IT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrive View Post
    No, it was a generic STFU. Next time I'll just say "We should all COOL IT.

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    I meant did you reply to the PM just by saying "STFU". Ah, well, not as funny when I have to explain it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahorsewithnoname View Post
    If she was so wronged, how come she has never been back? Even under a sock account, she has not once tried to step forward and defend herself. Why? Guilty as discovered.
    Hate to tell you this but she's been back ages, just uses one of her sock accounts, though hasn't tried to step forward and defend herself in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrive View Post
    This reacting to and replying to every comment made about the rules and history of the challenge has gotten redonkulous... It's an endless exercise in futility and it has got to stop.

    EJLS: Please my lady, announce that this discussion is over because the rules and condition for the next challenge have been decided and they will soon be posted.

    THE REST OF YOU: S.T.F.U and wait for ejls to post the theme of the challenge and the rules.

    With no offence intended to anyone.

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    Well you would have made a great Revolutionary wouldn't you.

    Give me liberty or give me whatever you feel like.

    I just can't be bothered with this any more; there should have been a warning that only comments wildly in favor of the proposed changes should be posted. Then I could have spent my time looking at lurid Pitchers and really gross stories instead.

    Mind you it was fun playing with Horse who still can't answer my points. He goes all round them but can't tackle them.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer View Post
    Well you would have made a great Revolutionary wouldn't you.

    Give me liberty or give me whatever you feel like.

    .

    Quoting Patrick Henry is way too dramatic for this situation. This is not life or death and our Liberty is not at stake so... walk away gun fighter. This fight is not worth a show down at the OK.

    You'll note I made several suggestions that got no traction. I didn't let it bother me. Here is a better quote for you.

    "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
    Know when to walk away and know when to run
    You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
    There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrive View Post
    Quoting Patrick Henry is way too dramatic for this situation. This is not life or death and our Liberty is not at stake so... walk away gun fighter. This fight is not worth a show down at the OK.

    You'll note I made several suggestions that got no traction. I didn't let it bother me. Here is a better quote for you.

    "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
    Know when to walk away and know when to run
    You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
    There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done."

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    Submit a kick ass story and show them who's the real top gun.

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    Thanks Wyatt.

    Actually your ideas are really good. They would change the winner takes all challenge there is now.

    You would have a most votes winner and also a highest rating winner and to encourage new writers there could be a rookies category too.

    But the thing I like most about it is that everyone entering would get some response to their entry.

    However this is EJLP's thread so I won't mention that.




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    Why not have a seperate competition for rookie/amateur writers as well as the main CAW competitions?
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    Would you farking people just figure out how to make the worm turn so that we can get on with the fucking? I mean seriously you people argue like a bunch of chickens... which brings me directly to dinner... because it's the other white meat... You all stop acting like 4 year olds and fucking agree... the trouble with the problems is ideally none of us will be happy with a compromise but that is what we should do. After all we are not the us government we are a handful of writers and we all want the same thing. At least I hope we all want the same thing .... if you don't want to see the next CAW GTFO.... okay... Now the rest of you... not what will make you happy and jism in your shorts... what can you all live with. it's Ejls's baby afterall... don't make me break out the big words and start slinging them.

    Mmmmmmmmm Rum is good... now can we all get along or what... I don't know what the fuck is the matter with you people cheating and ripping at eachother... CUT THAT SHIT OUT... its fucking annoying and its not conducive to my happiness... And no I don't expect you all do make me happy... but I can think about .... and that will make me happy... You fucking fucktards work out something that will work... IDC if we havn't tried it we should. It's a fucking contest for crying out loud... obviously the poll option is right the fuck out because some of you can't deal with the fact that your stories suck and you have to sock vote them up. So lets try the PM route and see how that goes... no I don't give a fuck if I win ... It doesn't matter to me... in fact I don't fucking want to win you bunch of crybabies... act like your balls have dropped or you've grown tits or something to show that you have a shred of maturity... This is afterall a fucking porn site and we are all adults here... and if your not an adult please raise your hand so that the lovely Ejls can whack you with the ban stick... the rest of you act like you have at least seen genetialia... and straighten up.

    It fucking pisses me off to no end we have here a community that could be great and wonderful... yet you fucktards go around and ruin it by being arrogant assinine fucktards... Fucking grow up or go home.

    RIght end of rant... and no I'm not fucking apoligizing fuck all ya...
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    and furthermore stop pissing me off you bunch of whiny little bitches....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer View Post
    Thanks Wyatt.

    Actually your ideas are really good. They would change the winner takes all challenge there is now.

    You would have a most votes winner and also a highest rating winner and to encourage new writers there could be a rookies category too.

    But the thing I like most about it is that everyone entering would get some response to their entry.

    However this is EJLP's thread so I won't mention that.
    And let's have the grammar winner and the story with the most punctuation winner. And let's have a winner for the best use of the letter K. Let's have an upper case winner and a lower case winner and let's have the second place winner be named the winner. But let's not have a winner because that would be too American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELaken-Palmer View Post
    And let's have the grammar winner and the story with the most punctuation winner. And let's have a winner for the best use of the letter K. Let's have an upper case winner and a lower case winner and let's have the second place winner be named the winner. But let's not have a winner because that would be too American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackedjaguar@hotmail.com View Post
    Would you farking people just figure out how to make the worm turn so that we can get on with the fucking? I mean seriously you people argue like a bunch of chickens... which brings me directly to dinner... because it's the other white meat... You all stop acting like 4 year olds and fucking agree... the trouble with the problems is ideally none of us will be happy with a compromise but that is what we should do. After all we are not the us government we are a handful of writers and we all want the same thing. At least I hope we all want the same thing .... if you don't want to see the next CAW GTFO.... okay... Now the rest of you... not what will make you happy and jism in your shorts... what can you all live with. it's Ejls's baby afterall... don't make me break out the big words and start slinging them.

    Mmmmmmmmm Rum is good... now can we all get along or what... I don't know what the fuck is the matter with you people cheating and ripping at eachother... CUT THAT SHIT OUT... its fucking annoying and its not conducive to my happiness... And no I don't expect you all do make me happy... but I can think about .... and that will make me happy... You fucking fucktards work out something that will work... IDC if we havn't tried it we should. It's a fucking contest for crying out loud... obviously the poll option is right the fuck out because some of you can't deal with the fact that your stories suck and you have to sock vote them up. So lets try the PM route and see how that goes... no I don't give a fuck if I win ... It doesn't matter to me... in fact I don't fucking want to win you bunch of crybabies... act like your balls have dropped or you've grown tits or something to show that you have a shred of maturity... This is afterall a fucking porn site and we are all adults here... and if your not an adult please raise your hand so that the lovely Ejls can whack you with the ban stick... the rest of you act like you have at least seen genetialia... and straighten up.

    It fucking pisses me off to no end we have here a community that could be great and wonderful... yet you fucktards go around and ruin it by being arrogant assinine fucktards... Fucking grow up or go home.

    RIght end of rant... and no I'm not fucking apoligizing fuck all ya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowleopard3200 View Post
    Why not have a seperate competition for rookie/amateur writers as well as the main CAW competitions?

    If this thread were an irony competition, the above would win by a landslide.
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    I woke up this morning...to all of this. Phew. Lots of fire and brimstone. I'm not gonna' add to any of it. I'm gonna' hope that when I wake up tomorrow morning, it'll be May 1st, all of this will be behind us, and our lovely Ejls will have posted the 11th Hunger (love you, Clarise! )...I mean, 11th CAW information, and we all ponder our assignment.

    Imagine...having to write a story without using the letter "y" in any of your words. Imagine...having to write a story having to use the letters "q" or "z" or "x" at least once in every sentence. Imagine...writing about no God in heaven. It would probably be easy, if you gave it a shot. There'd be no hell, either, down there. All you'd see is just the blue sky. Would you, could you, just live for today? Here's the rest of it...

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people living life in peace

    You, you may say
    I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world

    You, you may say
    I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will live as one

    And no...I won't be posting song after song.

    For today, in the words of Chief Joseph, I will fight no more forever.
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    I woke up this morning...to all of this. Phew. Lots of fire and brimstone. I'm not gonna' add to any of it. I'm gonna' hope that when I wake up tomorrow morning, it'll be May 1st, all of this will be behind us, and our lovely Ejls will have posted the 11th Hunger (love you, Clarise! )...I mean, 11th CAW information, and we all ponder our assignment.

    Horse, +1 on your post, somewhere above, advocating the elimination of voting.

    I would advocate that voting be replaced by critique, but no doubt we'd have apoplectic "contestants" finding out where each other live.

    My Hunger Games thread is lost on page whatever... in fact all of my posts are lost wherever... probably for the best....
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    Thanks Wyatt.

    Actually your ideas are really good.........
    But the thing I like most about it is that everyone entering would get some response to their entry.
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    Horse, +1 on your post, somewhere above, advocating the elimination of voting.

    I would advocate that voting be replaced by critique,
    If sometime in the future, the elimination of the voting system we have now is considered, I re-recommend that it be replaced by a system in which each entry has its own poll in which the readers can leave a response in the form of a numerical rating and a critique comment.

    For those that still want a contest there is nothing to stop them from counting up individual scores, seeing who has the most points and declaring a winner. Those that want categories can compare the scores of those stories entered in a specific category. The point is that the writer would get specific input. For example, if a writer got a low score but gets comments that said the readers didn't like stories about people that have sex with household appliances.... they would know that the low rating was not so much about their writing but the subject they chose to write about.

    I'm not suggesting this for CAW11. There is too much acrimony for anything to be done now.... but maybe sometime in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarise View Post
    My Hunger Games thread is lost on page whatever...
    I enjoyed reading it for a bit...but then there were posts that were starting to give away some of the story, and since I was just getting through the first book, I stopped reading it. I'm now into Book 3. I can say that I have no where near your literary assessment and critique skills. I like what I'm reading. It could be that I look for something fairly easy to read these days. I was reading a Tom Clancy book a few months ago and just put it down. Too difficult. I think my mind is weakening. Anyway, what I find a little strange is the way that she purposely stays away from any sexual awakening or thoughts. It's all very vanilla/generic, and I suppose that's to draw a certain audience, albeit not exactly realistic. Then again, if it is a formula for financial success, which is better, making money or making a run at a Pulitzer? She may not be good enough for the latter, but she accomplished the former, which is still a good thing in these bizarre economic times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrive View Post
    If sometime in the future, the elimination of the voting system we have now is considered, I re-recommend that it be replaced by a system in which each entry has its own poll in which the readers can leave a response in the form of a numerical rating and a critique comment.

    For those that still want a contest there is nothing to stop them from counting up individual scores, seeing who has the most points and declaring a winner. Those that want categories can compare the scores of those stories entered in a specific category. The point is that the writer would get specific input. For example, if a writer got a low score but gets comments that said the readers didn't like stories about people that have sex with household appliances.... they would know that the low rating was not so much about their writing but the subject they chose to write about.

    I'm not suggesting this for CAW11. There is too much acrimony for anything to be done now.... but maybe sometime in the future.

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    Nobody seems to be understanding that the idea is to make future CAW challenges EASIER, not MORE COMPLICATED.

    If someone does not want to be in a competition but simply wants a critique, just post your story on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahorsewithnoname View Post
    I enjoyed reading it for a bit...but then there were posts that were starting to give away some of the story, and since I was just getting through the first book, I stopped reading it. I'm now into Book 3. I can say that I have no where near your literary assessment and critique skills. I like what I'm reading. It could be that I look for something fairly easy to read these days. I was reading a Tom Clancy book a few months ago and just put it down. Too difficult. I think my mind is weakening. Anyway, what I find a little strange is the way that she purposely stays away from any sexual awakening or thoughts. It's all very vanilla/generic, and I suppose that's to draw a certain audience, albeit not exactly realistic. Then again, if it is a formula for financial success, which is better, making money or making a run at a Pulitzer? She may not be good enough for the latter, but she accomplished the former, which is still a good thing in these bizarre economic times.

    At risk of derailing this lovely thread (by rights I should take this response back to the H.G. thread, but I am in fact pleased that it has dropped off the front page), I would suggest that the virtual absence of sexual awakening, as a theme, is a consequence of the fact that the series is targeted to twelve year olds.

    Now for a doozy of a confession, given my distempered rant: I have seen the movie!!!

    Having both read the books and seen the movie, I will now concede that the franchise succeeds in each and every one of its objectives. For what it's worth. And to Suzanne Collins, it is worth a great deal, indeed. I doubt she is spending a single moment soul searching over the tragedy that the books will not earn a literary prize.
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    Nobody seems to be understanding that the idea is to make future CAW challenges EASIER, not MORE COMPLICATED.

    If someone does not want to be in a competition but simply wants a critique, just post your story on the forum.

    Agreed. I meant it rhetorically. Of course it is a competition. Of course there must be a vote.
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    Nobody seems to be understanding that the idea is to make future CAW challenges EASIER, not MORE COMPLICATED.

    If someone does not want to be in a competition but simply wants a critique, just post your story on the forum.
    Boy am I hearing that. Really, I think relatively little has to be done. The biggest problem with the way things worked already was just that a few people have bad attitudes and a few people were underhanded...and there's really not much to be done about either of those things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELaken-Palmer View Post
    Nobody seems to be understanding that the idea is to make future CAW challenges EASIER, not MORE COMPLICATED.

    If someone does not want to be in a competition but simply wants a critique, just post your story on the forum.
    There is an old saying about a caballus and aqua that I think applies but I'm not going to get into any of that. Let's see what ejls comes up with and let the games begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahorsewithnoname View Post
    I woke up this morning...to all of this. Phew. Lots of fire and brimstone. I'm not gonna' add to any of it. I'm gonna' hope that when I wake up tomorrow morning, it'll be May 1st, all of this will be behind us, and our lovely Ejls will have posted the 11th Hunger (love you, Clarise! )...I mean, 11th CAW information, and we all ponder our assignment.

    Imagine...having to write a story without using the letter "y" in any of your words. Imagine...having to write a story having to use the letters "q" or "z" or "x" at least once in every sentence. Imagine...writing about no God in heaven. It would probably be easy, if you gave it a shot. There'd be no hell, either, down there. All you'd see is just the blue sky. Would you, could you, just live for today? Here's the rest of it...

    Imagine there's no countries
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    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people living life in peace

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    I hope some day you'll join us
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    Imagine no possessions
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    Imagine all the people sharing all the world

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    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will live as one

    And no...I won't be posting song after song.

    For today, in the words of Chief Joseph, I will fight no more forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrive View Post
    If sometime in the future, the elimination of the voting system we have now is considered, I re-recommend that it be replaced by a system in which each entry has its own poll in which the readers can leave a response in the form of a numerical rating and a critique comment.

    For those that still want a contest there is nothing to stop them from counting up individual scores, seeing who has the most points and declaring a winner. Those that want categories can compare the scores of those stories entered in a specific category. The point is that the writer would get specific input. For example, if a writer got a low score but gets comments that said the readers didn't like stories about people that have sex with household appliances.... they would know that the low rating was not so much about their writing but the subject they chose to write about.

    I'm not suggesting this for CAW11. There is too much acrimony for anything to be done now.... but maybe sometime in the future.

    HD
    You have come up with several terrific ideas. I'm just afraid that the limitations of the software here on the site, come to issue. I think another thing we have to consider is that not everyone is going to vote on each story. You can put the option in, but it's been proven no one reads every story and therefore will not vote on something they never even clicked on.

    I also question how you could keep that many stories at the top of the page, without making them a sticky. I'm pretty sure Lemark will have an issue with that. I am reviewing people's thoughts on this thread, as well as the many pm's I received.

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    Thank you for giving my suggestions some thoughtful consideration. I hope my reply addresses some of your concerns.

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    You have come up with several terrific ideas. I'm just afraid that the limitations of the software here on the site, come to issue.

    I'm talking about each story having its own poll. You don't think xnxx can handle about 25 threads, each with its own poll?

    I think another thing we have to consider is that not everyone is going to vote on each story. You can put the option in, but it's been proven no one reads every story and therefore will not vote on something they never even clicked on.

    True but that's not any different then what we have now. Not all voters read all the stories but still vote for their "favorite." With my proposal at least we'll know how many people are reading the stories and how many are just recruits that are only voting for the one story they have been asked to vote for. It will also give writers with low readership some input about the appeal of their story.

    I also question how you could keep that many stories at the top of the page, without making them a sticky.

    We only need one sticky, the thread that has the list of the entries. Each story will have a link so readers will be able to find the stories with just a click. Those that want their stories on top of the forum can bump then up.

    I am reviewing people's thoughts on this thread, as well as the many pm's I received.

    Thank you so much for participating in such an intelligent, non-confrontational manner.
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    For various (not unpleasant) reasons I've been away from the forum for a week or so, therefore I've missed out on this thread.

    I haven't had the opportunity yet to read through all 237 previous posts, but a cursory glance has made my head hurt, there seems to have been a pointless battle amongst a number of writers, of which several of whom in my opinion rank with the best authors on this site.

    Leaving the inevitable in-fighting to one side, I would like to repond to Ejls' original Opening Post.

    As a previous CAW winner and frequent competitor, right back to the very first compy a few years ago, I think it's a shame that we need a draconian set of rules, as the original intent of the CAW was simply to give us all a challenge as a bit of fun, an interesting exercise.
    It was one which brought out a wealth of stories spanning as wide a gamut of plots and scenarios as one could imagine, and it was enjoyable and rewarding both for the authors and the readers.

    Sadly, the fun element seems to be in danger of disappearing as the competition becomes more and more serious, with entrants and readers accusing each other of multiple entries/votes and various other shenanigans.

    Whilst it's a pity that we need a set of rules at all, I think that the rules or guidelines as set out by Ejls are as good as we're going to get, and therefore I endorse them completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayneyRedd View Post
    For various (not unpleasant) reasons I've been away from the forum for a week or so, therefore I've missed out on this thread.

    I haven't had the opportunity yet to read through all 237 previous posts, but a cursory glance has made my head hurt, there seems to have been a pointless battle amongst a number of writers, of which several of whom in my opinion rank with the best authors on this site.

    Leaving the inevitable in-fighting to one side, I would like to repond to Ejls' original Opening Post.

    As a previous CAW winner and frequent competitor, right back to the very first compy a few years ago, I think it's a shame that we need a draconian set of rules, as the original intent of the CAW was simply to give us all a challenge as a bit of fun, an interesting exercise.
    It was one which brought out a wealth of stories spanning as wide a gamut of plots and scenarios as one could imagine, and it was enjoyable and rewarding both for the authors and the readers.

    Sadly, the fun element seems to be in danger of disappearing as the competition becomes more and more serious, with entrants and readers accusing each other of multiple entries/votes and various other shenanigans.

    Whilst it's a pity that we need a set of rules at all, I think that the rules or guidelines as set out by Ejls are as good as we're going to get, and therefore I endorse them completely.
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    Now that you're back, Jayney, I hope you'll stick around. The unveiling of the new challenge happens on Tuesday.

    Be afraid.

    Be very afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayneyRedd View Post
    Oh dear - I appear to have been the thread-killer here!
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    If the Final Rules have been settled then I think that ejls should post a sticky with them but first get an admin to agree to lock it so no posts can be placed in it after The Rules.
    Oh and also make it a Top sticky that never moves.

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    Be afraid.

    Be very afraid.
    Now, now, you're supposed to be the NICE member/writer/poster/moderator around here, aren't you? You depict yourself as a cross between your av pic and the nice grandmother down the street who bakes cakes for people.

    So what's all this? Be afraid?

    I mean, I remember when you took care of cija's toys for a while some time ago, but, well, you never came across this way before.

    Sounds to me like someone needs a spa day.

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    Now, now, you're supposed to be the NICE member/writer/poster/moderator around here, aren't you? You depict yourself as a cross between your av pic and the nice grandmother down the street who bakes cakes for people.

    So what's all this? Be afraid?

    I mean, I remember when you took care of cija's toys for a while some time ago, but, well, you never came across this way before.

    Sounds to me like someone needs a spa day.

    Just sayin'.
    It could be that the dark side of the Force took hold of her, and she's going to make the challenge something, well, frightening:

    1. Each entry must be written in iambic pentameter.

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    2. Each paragraph must be written in a different font, color, and size attribute than the previous one.

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    3. The theme is Riverdance Bitches.

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    I can think of plenty of nightmare scenarios. I probably won't sleep now until Tuesday when she posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahorsewithnoname View Post
    It could be that the dark side of the Force took hold of her, and she's going to make the challenge something, well, frightening:

    1. Each entry must be written in iambic pentameter.


    I can think of plenty of nightmare scenarios. I probably won't sleep now until Tuesday when she posts.

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    Thank you for all the input received here and via pm's. I agree with those that said it's too bad that this became necessary.

    The new challenge will be posted on May 1st.

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    Thank you for all the input received here and via pm's. I agree with those that said it's too bad that this became necessary.

    The new challenge will be posted on May 1st.

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