Be real.

[Jeffieboy]

Hello. I am wanting to know why men have to lie about what they look like. They have 10 year old pictures and use words that don't match their apperance. I am finding that the word average means fat. And not just a bit of a gut. Fat! If I can't deep throat them without having their gut hit my head before I go all the way down then they are fat.

I don't care how nice of a cock they have, if I am not into fat I won't just change my mind cuz their cock is nice.

And the pictures they use are very decieving. Pull their gut up or push the fat around their cock down or take a piture from the hair line down.

The term in shape has been grossly distorted. How is 5'10" 240lbs in shape? Husky does not mean very fat. And hwp does not mean you need to stand over a mirro to see your cock.

Yes there are some of us that can use a 10 year old picture, but only a few. My body is the same now as it was 20 years ago. But I tell the truth about my age. And yes my face has aged. But I tell the truth. I don't use a 10 year old picture of my face.

And then when you meet the guy and see he has been lying he gets pissed cuz you say sorry dude your just not my type. Your way to heavy.
Then he tries to convince you it is ok and you will like it once you start suckin on his cock. Sorry just aint gunna happen.

I just want an answer.

[Jeffieboy]

HUM....

[krait]

( STRAIGHT GUY HERE )

men, ( and women ) lie about themselves to some degree. it's all about
that fear of BEING REJECTED by the opposite sex.

this site is no difference than your, average dating/match site.
again, when you meet them, the pic is some years old. if they post a
current pic, they will be turned down AUTOMATICLY.

we live in a fucked up and unfair society, which s based on and around
LOOKS.

PERIOD.

all of these so-called REALITY SHOWS, BACHELOR/BACHLORETTE SHOWS,

put false images/hopes in people's minds/hearts. people have no idea,
how many people ( WOMEN MOSTLY ), get plastic surgery to look or
be accepted.

hell, just go on GOOGLE, and type celebrity plastic surgery. or, something
of the matter. you will see the before and after looks.

also, look at the photos of these celebs, with and without their
MAKE-UP at that. or, what about those candid photos, of them being
overweight ?.

again, society imbedded these images into peoples lives, to say this is
what is normal and to be accepted.

SADLY, some celebrities have died going to the EXTREME. others, are
left with BOTCHED SURGICAL PROCEDURES, only to look HIDIOUS.

WOMEN, are quickly sold on this BULLSHIT. guys, tend to follow suit,
in much smaller numbers. women spend tons of money, to be small,
suck fat, bigger breast, and so on.

men, just want to look cut here and there.

so, to answer your question, it all comes down to being or hoping, the
receiver wont be disappointed upon arrival. it's 50/50 on that.

throw in the mix of : MONEY, STATUS, OCCUPATION, THE TYPE OF
WHEELS YOU DRIVE, WHERE YOU LIVE, & WHERE YOU SHOP 4 CLOTHES.

all of this, is what a lot of women judge you off of.
on the other hand, if your gay, there are a lot of gay men who want a
man of a certain size and height.

i hope i cleared that up for you.

[Pussy Shark]

I have no idea what you're talking about!

[thatcuriousone]

Because at our core, it is in (most of our natures...) to lie.
It is easier than being truthful and it is easier to imagine yourself as someone else. -shrugs-

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by krait

( STRAIGHT GUY HERE )

men, ( and women ) lie about themselves to some degree. it's all about
that fear of BEING REJECTED by the opposite sex.

this site is no difference than your, average dating/match site.
again, when you meet them, the pic is some years old. if they post a
current pic, they will be turned down AUTOMATICLY.

we live in a fucked up and unfair society, which s based on and around
LOOKS.

PERIOD.

all of these so-called REALITY SHOWS, BACHELOR/BACHLORETTE SHOWS,

put false images/hopes in people's minds/hearts. people have no idea,
how many people ( WOMEN MOSTLY ), get plastic surgery to look or
be accepted.

hell, just go on GOOGLE, and type celebrity plastic surgery. or, something
of the matter. you will see the before and after looks.

also, look at the photos of these celebs, with and without their
MAKE-UP at that. or, what about those candid photos, of them being
overweight ?.

again, society imbedded these images into peoples lives, to say this is
what is normal and to be accepted.

SADLY, some celebrities have died going to the EXTREME. others, are
left with BOTCHED SURGICAL PROCEDURES, only to look HIDIOUS.

WOMEN, are quickly sold on this BULLSHIT. guys, tend to follow suit,
in much smaller numbers. women spend tons of money, to be small,
suck fat, bigger breast, and so on.

men, just want to look cut here and there.

so, to answer your question, it all comes down to being or hoping, the
receiver wont be disappointed upon arrival. it's 50/50 on that.

throw in the mix of : MONEY, STATUS, OCCUPATION, THE TYPE OF
WHEELS YOU DRIVE, WHERE YOU LIVE, & WHERE YOU SHOP 4 CLOTHES.

all of this, is what a lot of women judge you off of.
on the other hand, if your gay, there are a lot of gay men who want a
man of a certain size and height.

i hope i cleared that up for you.

LOL Well that I already knew. My question is if they know they are lying and as I said, they know that the person isn't going to want to be with them no matter what, why lie? When they know and see what the other person wants in another person and they are no where near that idea, why bother?

You don't have to tell me about gay men and what they want. lol I already know that. I guess what I am trying to get to is if they have a 10 year old picture and they now they are 75lbs heavier bald and are nothing they clam to be, why put both people through that? Also, it puts the other person in a poor position to say, sorry, but.

And isn't the rejection from that far worse than just telling the truth to begin with?

[Rygy]

In my opinion I think it has a lot to do with what was said above but also just the simple fact that people fear the worst if you see them in a picture and hope that if you see a younger version in one that you won't reject the real person!

If that makes any sense!

[thespadez]

Originally Posted by Jeffieboy

LOL Well that I already knew. My question is if they know they are lying and as I said, they know that the person isn't going to want to be with them no matter what, why lie? When they know and see what the other person wants in another person and they are no where near that idea, why bother?

You don't have to tell me about gay men and what they want. lol I already know that. I guess what I am trying to get to is if they have a 10 year old picture and they now they are 75lbs heavier bald and are nothing they clam to be, why put both people through that? Also, it puts the other person in a poor position to say, sorry, but.

And isn't the rejection from that far worse than just telling the truth to begin with?

I agree with you completely. Why bother going through that entire hassel knowing that there is a insanely great chance that the person will reject you anyways when you can just avoid all that and just be honest in the first place.

[Rothko]

Perhaps you could try being a little less prejudiced and judgemental, if you asking why guys lie on say dating sites etc, it is because that is just the way of the world. People lie and it is a shame because if you think you might be getting one thing and get something else altogether disappointment is bound to follow. that said you are going to have to expect people to flatter themselves and not be entirely honest when it comes to their own self appraisal. Of course it would be nice if folk could try an be a little closer to reality but I think it is par for the course.

[CasaDan]

People lie to improve their chances initially. They'll use a picture of them looking their best so they can first lure the people they want in. Then, they'll hope they can win that person over with personality to the point of getting any action, and hopefully to the point of where that person won't care about the truth.

A Goonies Sloth is going to have a chance of maybe .001% of anyone talking to them so they'd put say... a George Clooney face up. Maybe not to such extremes, but regardless, they're going to take the best picture they have of themselves to improve that initial chance of even getting talked to.

Rejected right off the bat versus rejected after the truth. Some of these people have continuously been rejected right off the bat. If you've been rejected most of your life, are you going to continue to be 'real'? You wouldn't want to be rejected more so you'll put on your 'best' masks and try again.

In the end, it's no different than a man or a woman getting dressed and looking their best before going out for a night on the town in hopes of getting any action or attention.

[Milo Cronos]

The downside of sight unseen products that's why I would never go through the trouble of on line dating or looking for a fuck toy to play again! If I were to it would have to start with a live feed, followed by a public meet and greet my only experience left me slammed with Spam for other dating websites and in three months not even a sniff of pussy just hassles and lead ons!

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by CasaDan

People lie to improve their chances initially. They'll use a picture of them looking their best so they can first lure the people they want in. Then, they'll hope they can win that person over with personality to the point of getting any action, and hopefully to the point of where that person won't care about the truth.

A Goonies Sloth is going to have a chance of maybe .001% of anyone talking to them so they'd put say... a George Clooney face up. Maybe not to such extremes, but regardless, they're going to take the best picture they have of themselves to improve that initial chance of even getting talked to.

Rejected right off the bat versus rejected after the truth. Some of these people have continuously been rejected right off the bat. If you've been rejected most of your life, are you going to continue to be 'real'? You wouldn't want to be rejected more so you'll put on your 'best' masks and try again.

In the end, it's no different than a man or a woman getting dressed and looking their best before going out for a night on the town in hopes of getting any action or attention.

Not really. If I am out on the town you see what you get. In person I can't make myself look (in all aspects) 10 years younger. I can't wear clothes that remove 75lbs, I can't change the fact that I (in my case) have big ears. lol Or lets say in some, have bad teeth and so on.

When you are on this here computer you can be the perfect person for someone. You can be everything they look for. But if out on the town they see the real you and they can make up their mind in an instant, without the hassel and the let down.

If you know that 100% you are not what the other person wants, why lie and put both through it. Just like race. If I don't like a certain race, nothing that person says will make me want them. Although, I like men of all races as long I am physically attracted to them. If a man has the face of Brad Pitt and the body of a sumo wrestler I will 100% not want them. Age is also another. On here many young men don't look at my age and we talk about sex. Then they ask how old I am and that is the killer. O.K. Cool I understand. But I don't lie about it. On the other hand, for me the body is more important than the face. I have been very attracted to men with nice bodies and a plain or not good looking face.

[krait]

Originally Posted by Jeffieboy

Not really. If I am out on the town you see what you get. In person I can't make myself look (in all aspects) 10 years younger. I can't wear clothes that remove 75lbs, I can't change the fact that I (in my case) have big ears. lol Or lets say in some, have bad teeth and so on.

When you are on this here computer you can be the perfect person for someone. You can be everything they look for. But if out on the town they see the real you and they can make up their mind in an instant, without the hassel and the let down.

If you know that 100% you are not what the other person wants, why lie and put both through it. Just like race. If I don't like a certain race, nothing that person says will make me want them. Although, I like men of all races as long I am physically attracted to them. If a man has the face of Brad Pitt and the body of a sumo wrestler I will 100% not want them. Age is also another. On here many young men don't look at my age and we talk about sex. Then they ask how old I am and that is the killer. O.K. Cool I understand. But I don't lie about it. On the other hand, for me the body is more important than the face. I have been very attracted to men with nice bodies and a plain or not good looking face.

BUT, let me say this.

you said, why can't be honest RIGHT ?.

again, that would be the so-called ICING ON THE CAKE or the

NAIL IN THE COFFIN.

anyway, why don't women & men, just tell the opposite sex, what they
want on the first meeting ?.

that would be a suicide risk there.

just think, what a woman would say to a guy, who told her all we
wanted was JUST SEX, A BLOW JOB, and called it a night.
she would become INFURIATED.

flip the script, a woman may want a guy, to buy her a NICE DINNER with
DRINKS, a LAVISH NIGHT ON THE TOWN, and NOTHING SERIOUS after
that.

in his mind, he see's her as a FREE LOADING " GOLD DIGGER ".

this why, people are not honest. it's all about PERSONAL GAIN to oneself.

again, the first meeting can either MAKE YOU or BREAK YOU.

yes, people have been rejected either most, or all their lives.
when is enough is a enough for them ?. that's why, they play games
with each other emotions. to work them up, only to be let down in the
end.

how many here can say, hi, my name is ( name here ), i'm not looking
for a serious relationship. all i want from you is ( )
and to call it a night. not interested in seeing you ever again.

can we agree to that ?.

i take that as a ( ) or or

choose wisely.

C-YA.

[Not That Guy]

<----- That is me taken this year, nothing to hide.

[babblefunk]

Originally Posted by krait

BUT, let me say this.

you said, why can't be honest RIGHT ?.

again, that would be the so-called ICING ON THE CAKE or the

NAIL IN THE COFFIN.

anyway, why don't women & men, just tell the opposite sex, what they
want on the first meeting ?.

that would be a suicide risk there.

just think, what a woman would say to a guy, who told her all we
wanted was JUST SEX, A BLOW JOB, and called it a night.
she would become INFURIATED.

flip the script, a woman may want a guy, to buy her a NICE DINNER with
DRINKS, a LAVISH NIGHT ON THE TOWN, and NOTHING SERIOUS after
that.

in his mind, he see's her as a FREE LOADING " GOLD DIGGER ".

this why, people are not honest. it's all about PERSONAL GAIN to oneself.

again, the first meeting can either MAKE YOU or BREAK YOU.

yes, people have been rejected either most, or all their lives.
when is enough is a enough for them ?. that's why, they play games
with each other emotions. to work them up, only to be let down in the
end.

how many here can say, hi, my name is ( name here ), i'm not looking
for a serious relationship. all i want from you is ( )
and to call it a night. not interested in seeing you ever again.

can we agree to that ?.

i take that as a ( ) or or

choose wisely.

C-YA.

I can and have said exactly that. Why lie? There are women who want random anonymous nights same as men. You ask 10 and 9 say no, you're still winning in the end. Do you have a better batting average if you lie? Probably. But I care more about how I feel about myself than I care about how some random woman feels about me. I'd rather I think I'm an honest horn dog than a sleazy lying asshole. I bet most women would prefer that too. That's not to say that's always the mood I'm in, or even mostly. I knew from the night I met my wife I wanted to be with/ date/ marry her. But damn straight I wanted to fuck, too. She knew where I stood. Or an even better example, before we started dating, I was fucking one of her friends. I told that girl honestly that I wasn't looking for a future with her, that I really enjoyed her friendship, but that, hell yeah, I wanted to hook up. We did, on and off, always maintaining our friendship, and stopping when I started dating my wife with no hard feelings. We are all still close friends. Had I been a lying scum bag, I wouldn't have had fun with her, a subsequent friendship, or most likely a relationship with my wife, cause I would have been just a lying dick.

At the end of the day, people need to ask themselves what is better: slightly more pussy or infinitely more self esteem and satisfying relationships?

[Yaztromo]

Originally Posted by CasaDan

People lie to improve their chances initially. They'll use a picture of them looking their best so they can first lure the people they want in. Then, they'll hope they can win that person over with personality to the point of getting any action, and hopefully to the point of where that person won't care about the truth.

A Goonies Sloth is going to have a chance of maybe .001% of anyone talking to them so they'd put say... a George Clooney face up. Maybe not to such extremes, but regardless, they're going to take the best picture they have of themselves to improve that initial chance of even getting talked to.

Rejected right off the bat versus rejected after the truth. Some of these people have continuously been rejected right off the bat. If you've been rejected most of your life, are you going to continue to be 'real'? You wouldn't want to be rejected more so you'll put on your 'best' masks and try again.

In the end, it's no different than a man or a woman getting dressed and looking their best before going out for a night on the town in hopes of getting any action or attention.

This seems like a very sensible view to me. +1

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by krait

BUT, let me say this.

you said, why can't be honest RIGHT ?.

again, that would be the so-called ICING ON THE CAKE or the

NAIL IN THE COFFIN.

anyway, why don't women & men, just tell the opposite sex, what they
want on the first meeting ?.

that would be a suicide risk there.

just think, what a woman would say to a guy, who told her all we
wanted was JUST SEX, A BLOW JOB, and called it a night.
she would become INFURIATED.

flip the script, a woman may want a guy, to buy her a NICE DINNER with
DRINKS, a LAVISH NIGHT ON THE TOWN, and NOTHING SERIOUS after
that.

in his mind, he see's her as a FREE LOADING " GOLD DIGGER ".

this why, people are not honest. it's all about PERSONAL GAIN to oneself.

again, the first meeting can either MAKE YOU or BREAK YOU.

yes, people have been rejected either most, or all their lives.
when is enough is a enough for them ?. that's why, they play games
with each other emotions. to work them up, only to be let down in the
end.

how many here can say, hi, my name is ( name here ), i'm not looking
for a serious relationship. all i want from you is ( )
and to call it a night. not interested in seeing you ever again.

can we agree to that ?.

i take that as a ( ) or or

choose wisely.

C-YA.

So what you are saying is that when you meet a woman you find attractive and want to meet andyou ask her out, you don't think she knows you want to fuck her? You are saying that you aren't thinking of fuckin her?

[xnxxbob]

"People lie to improve their chances initially."


"I didn't inhale"
Bill Clinton

[vball_chick]

I love how the assumption is that everyone lies because they don't want to be rejected.

What about those who are here just to chat and socialize and not try and 'hook up' huh?

[xnxxbob]

Originally Posted by vball_chick

I love how the assumption is that everyone lies because they don't want to be rejected.

What about those who are here just to chat and socialize and not try and 'hook up' huh?

Agreed.

[krait]

Originally Posted by Jeffieboy

So what you are saying is that when you meet a woman you find attractive and want to meet andyou ask her out, you don't think she knows you want to fuck her? You are saying that you aren't thinking of fuckin her?

what i am saying is, i would love to meet a honest, open, and caring
woman for a dinner and a movie.

TRUST ME, i have been the STRAIGHT LACE GUY. the very respectful type.
wanting the company of a woman, without expecting sex in the end.

BUT, in the end, i would be told i am not there type. although, i was
very intelligent and open-minded too. if that's the case, why waste our
time, ( MOSTLY MY MONEY ) on treating you to a nice time out ?.

i can better spend, my hard earn money else where. ( you think ).

[krait]

Originally Posted by vball_chick

I love how the assumption is that everyone lies because they don't want to be rejected.

What about those who are here just to chat and socialize and not try and 'hook up' huh?

the first sentence, i would disagree with you. SOME, but not everyone.

the second part, i would definitely agree with.

but, you will have a whole lot of, JEALOUS OTHER HALVES, who will be
hurt, if there other half, spent more time with a TOTAL STRANGER, than
they are with their s/o while on the internet.

this has been proven many times over, on talk shows.

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by vball_chick

I love how the assumption is that everyone lies because they don't want to be rejected.

What about those who are here just to chat and socialize and not try and 'hook up' huh?

Where did I say everyone is lying?

[vball_chick]

Originally Posted by Jeffieboy

Where did I say everyone is lying?

Not you.

The assumption by some people in this thread is that everyone lies because they're afraid of being rejected. While that may be true about a certain percentage of people, it's not the case with everyone.

Not everyone has a reason to lie about who and what they are. I'm not here looking to hook up, by any means. I'm actually only here because my best friend brought me here and it gives me a place to talk about things I couldn't chat with my friends about.

While it's true that some people do lie about themselves, it's also true that there are plenty of us who don't.

[bigtrav20]

people lie about thier body type/ looks in hopes to bring the person to talk to them and hope by the time the other person finds out they be to involved to leave.

Granted it doesn't end that way and ends up hurting them both.

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by vball_chick

Not you.

The assumption by some people in this thread is that everyone lies because they're afraid of being rejected. While that may be true about a certain percentage of people, it's not the case with everyone.

Not everyone has a reason to lie about who and what they are. I'm not here looking to hook up, by any means. I'm actually only here because my best friend brought me here and it gives me a place to talk about things I couldn't chat with my friends about.

While it's true that some people do lie about themselves, it's also true that there are plenty of us who don't.

Thank you. That's what I am saying. I used the word men in a general term. I know why people lie. My question is what is the point if you know the out come? Lying just makes it worse. You make the rejection far more painful. And what if the person you lie to could have over looked the things they may not find attractive? Then you have lost out on a chance to get what you wanted in the first place.

[yesofcourse]

I can tell you from my point of view.....I started putting albums up here....and as I took the pics....and deleted them and took more.....and tried to figure out how to take a picture on a blackberry.....I said....I am going to loose a little weight.....Because I understand wht you are saying....And I want to just be able to show off my body!!!

[yesofcourse]

Im down 8 lbs!!

[yesofcourse]

So that's 6'0 213.5lbs

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by yesofcourse

Im down 8 lbs!!

See, that is what I am talkin about. Honesty. More people respond to honesty than lies. It shows integrity. It is harder to be honest than to lie.

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by yesofcourse

So that's 6'0 213.5lbs

Just saw your pics. Nice. I would be happy to suck on your cock.

[tunboy]

LOL

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by tunboy

LOL

Are you looking in a mirror?

[CasaDan]

You know what? You know why I use to and sometimes still do lie about who I am?

Because, when porn isn't enough, I want interaction with people online. Being male and finding a random girl for such interactions is incredibly difficult, and besides, with as many people spamming girls as they do, chances are they wouldn't want to. Not to mention, I'm awkward as fuck around people I don't know, even if it is online if I'm acting the way i really am. So I lie about my gender, age, looks, and whatever else on a random chat site "hooking up" with desperate guys to act out fantasies to just get the release I'd be overly frustrated trying to obtain otherwise.That's why I've lied about who I am, namely to just get a release.

Even if I am myself, I'll embellish my life, because few if anyone are going to want to chat with a guy who's got no future plans, who's 'average', who's got no social life, who can only use an experience from when he was in 8th grade, now 10 years ago, as a means of being interesting.

If I were to be honest 100% honest and try to land a girlfriend by being 100% myself right away, I'll never have one due to just how perverted, shy, quiet, and uninteresting I am. I have to act like what I'm not if i want to encourage those chances at all. I won't lie about it, but I will embellish until I believe they'd be fine with the actual facts. I'll use it as a sort of armor to shield myself from being rejected because of who I am initially. Personally, I think it would hurt 100 times worse to be rejected for being your true self, than it would for being rejected a partially true version of yourself.

I stand by what I said several posts back: In the end, it's no different than a man or a woman getting dressed and looking their best before going out for a night on the town in hopes of getting any action or attention.

You say:

Not really. If I am out on the town you see what you get. In person I can't make myself look (in all aspects) 10 years younger. I can't wear clothes that remove 75lbs, I can't change the fact that I (in my case) have big ears. lol Or lets say in some, have bad teeth and so on.

But in reality, if you're going out, you're showering, shaving, putting on deodorant, dressing your best, throwing on cologne, body sprays or perfumes, make-up of some sort, and then spend your entire night more than likely embellishing the truth behind your life in some ways or another or in general fanning your feathers as peacocks do. Don't shave for a month, then shave. You can easily make a huge difference in appearance that way.

Make-up and clothing can make a person younger or more 'beautiful', and, in fact, is one of the main points of the entire make-up industry. Wearing tighter or looser clothing can make you look different weights. A haircut or hairstyle could hide something like prominent ears if they make you self conscious. Smiling differently with obscure imperfections in teeth. Hell, a Wonderbra or any padded bra, along with those jelly-like pads to "increase your cup size" are all nothing but tools used to deceive any person in to finding you more attractive.

You get them alone and pull off everything you did to make yourself look more desirable and you hope they're fine enough with it to go along. If it seems awkward, you try to smooth talk it to make it sway in your favor. It's the same online as it is in the real world.

And what if the person you lie to could have over looked the things they may not find attractive?

This line, doesn't make sense. How are people going to overlook the things they may not find attractive if they already are rejecting a person before even getting to know them? If I said i was 300 pounds and had a quadruple chin, but was a nice, loving, romantic guy, I'd be rejected and no one would care about my personality because they'd never get to know it because they'd have walked away before getting to know me based solely on my looks.

[screamer6y]

I say, who fuqn cares. Yes I love sexy men but i have no plans of meeting someone from here in person. I can picture them however i want.

[dink994]

THAT PIC OF ME?

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by CasaDan

You know what? You know why I use to and sometimes still do lie about who I am?

Because, when porn isn't enough, I want interaction with people online. Being male and finding a random girl for such interactions is incredibly difficult, and besides, with as many people spamming girls as they do, chances are they wouldn't want to. Not to mention, I'm awkward as fuck around people I don't know, even if it is online if I'm acting the way i really am. So I lie about my gender, age, looks, and whatever else on a random chat site "hooking up" with desperate guys to act out fantasies to just get the release I'd be overly frustrated trying to obtain otherwise.That's why I've lied about who I am, namely to just get a release.

Even if I am myself, I'll embellish my life, because few if anyone are going to want to chat with a guy who's got no future plans, who's 'average', who's got no social life, who can only use an experience from when he was in 8th grade, now 10 years ago, as a means of being interesting.

If I were to be honest 100% honest and try to land a girlfriend by being 100% myself right away, I'll never have one due to just how perverted, shy, quiet, and uninteresting I am. I have to act like what I'm not if i want to encourage those chances at all. I won't lie about it, but I will embellish until I believe they'd be fine with the actual facts. I'll use it as a sort of armor to shield myself from being rejected because of who I am initially. Personally, I think it would hurt 100 times worse to be rejected for being your true self, than it would for being rejected a partially true version of yourself.

I stand by what I said several posts back: In the end, it's no different than a man or a woman getting dressed and looking their best before going out for a night on the town in hopes of getting any action or attention.

You say:

But in reality, if you're going out, you're showering, shaving, putting on deodorant, dressing your best, throwing on cologne, body sprays or perfumes, make-up of some sort, and then spend your entire night more than likely embellishing the truth behind your life in some ways or another or in general fanning your feathers as peacocks do. Don't shave for a month, then shave. You can easily make a huge difference in appearance that way.

Make-up and clothing can make a person younger or more 'beautiful', and, in fact, is one of the main points of the entire make-up industry. Wearing tighter or looser clothing can make you look different weights. A haircut or hairstyle could hide something like prominent ears if they make you self conscious. Smiling differently with obscure imperfections in teeth. Hell, a Wonderbra or any padded bra, along with those jelly-like pads to "increase your cup size" are all nothing but tools used to deceive any person in to finding you more attractive.

You get them alone and pull off everything you did to make yourself look more desirable and you hope they're fine enough with it to go along. If it seems awkward, you try to smooth talk it to make it sway in your favor. It's the same online as it is in the real world.



This line, doesn't make sense. How are people going to overlook the things they may not find attractive if they already are rejecting a person before even getting to know them? If I said i was 300 pounds and had a quadruple chin, but was a nice, loving, romantic guy, I'd be rejected and no one would care about my personality because they'd never get to know it because they'd have walked away before getting to know me based solely on my looks.

LOL Well first I am talking about pictures and computer dating not in person. You can't lie about what you look like when you are face to face.

There is a limit yes but, we all over look certain physical things about our significant other. I didn't stop wanting sex with my X after 2 c-sections. Before she had a great body and was firm and pettite. After, she had them she gained weight and had two scares and was unable to look the way she did. Her body was nothing like it was before. But I still wanted to fuck the snott out of her.

When I see man or a woman I find attractive I can over look certain things about their physical apperance. They may not be my idea of what I really want but, I would have sex with them any way.

Yes I would prefer a sex partener with a perfect firm hard body and a great face but, I am not one for the face. I am a body man. I don't like woman with big asses but I can over look that if the rest of her is to my liking. I don't like men with a gut but, if the rest of his body and his personallity is what turns me on then I would suck on his cock. He could be ugly with no ass and a nice body and I am good with that.

As I said, if you are honest and tell the truth about yourself you may have a better chance with that person. It is the lies that people see. When they tell the truth and are honest about everything and the other is not, they are angry because they have been lied to. Not because you aren't a perfect 10. And they see that as a personallity flaw not a physical one. Who wants to start a relationship based on a lie?

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by CasaDan

You know what? You know why I use to and sometimes still do lie about who I am?

Because, when porn isn't enough, I want interaction with people online. Being male and finding a random girl for such interactions is incredibly difficult, and besides, with as many people spamming girls as they do, chances are they wouldn't want to. Not to mention, I'm awkward as fuck around people I don't know, even if it is online if I'm acting the way i really am. So I lie about my gender, age, looks, and whatever else on a random chat site "hooking up" with desperate guys to act out fantasies to just get the release I'd be overly frustrated trying to obtain otherwise.That's why I've lied about who I am, namely to just get a release.

Even if I am myself, I'll embellish my life, because few if anyone are going to want to chat with a guy who's got no future plans, who's 'average', who's got no social life, who can only use an experience from when he was in 8th grade, now 10 years ago, as a means of being interesting.

If I were to be honest 100% honest and try to land a girlfriend by being 100% myself right away, I'll never have one due to just how perverted, shy, quiet, and uninteresting I am. I have to act like what I'm not if i want to encourage those chances at all. I won't lie about it, but I will embellish until I believe they'd be fine with the actual facts. I'll use it as a sort of armor to shield myself from being rejected because of who I am initially. Personally, I think it would hurt 100 times worse to be rejected for being your true self, than it would for being rejected a partially true version of yourself.

I stand by what I said several posts back: In the end, it's no different than a man or a woman getting dressed and looking their best before going out for a night on the town in hopes of getting any action or attention.

You say:

But in reality, if you're going out, you're showering, shaving, putting on deodorant, dressing your best, throwing on cologne, body sprays or perfumes, make-up of some sort, and then spend your entire night more than likely embellishing the truth behind your life in some ways or another or in general fanning your feathers as peacocks do. Don't shave for a month, then shave. You can easily make a huge difference in appearance that way.

Make-up and clothing can make a person younger or more 'beautiful', and, in fact, is one of the main points of the entire make-up industry. Wearing tighter or looser clothing can make you look different weights. A haircut or hairstyle could hide something like prominent ears if they make you self conscious. Smiling differently with obscure imperfections in teeth. Hell, a Wonderbra or any padded bra, along with those jelly-like pads to "increase your cup size" are all nothing but tools used to deceive any person in to finding you more attractive.

You get them alone and pull off everything you did to make yourself look more desirable and you hope they're fine enough with it to go along. If it seems awkward, you try to smooth talk it to make it sway in your favor. It's the same online as it is in the real world.



This line, doesn't make sense. How are people going to overlook the things they may not find attractive if they already are rejecting a person before even getting to know them? If I said i was 300 pounds and had a quadruple chin, but was a nice, loving, romantic guy, I'd be rejected and no one would care about my personality because they'd never get to know it because they'd have walked away before getting to know me based solely on my looks.

You say no one would want to hook up with a guy with no furture plans and no social life etc. How do you no until you try. Not all woman-men want to be the social kings and queens. When reading many womans profiles on dating sites, many of them just want a man that is real and honest. One that is a loving caring man that they can spend time with. They know that no one is perfect and they (woman more than men) will over look many physical things.

When taking to woman I know and on sites they look for more than the physical. They are looking for a man that can make them laugh and feel special. One that thinks about how they feel and wants to spend time with them doing things they like. They are looking for the personality more than the physical. They want and honest guy that they can count on.

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by thatcuriousone

Because at our core, it is in (most of our natures...) to lie.
It is easier than being truthful and it is easier to imagine yourself as someone else. -shrugs-

Yes I believe you are correct. To bad.

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by screamer6y

I say, who fuqn cares. Yes I love sexy men but i have no plans of meeting someone from here in person. I can picture them however i want.

Wasn't talking about people from here. Read the post.

[Jeffieboy]

Originally Posted by prettynpink

i know u have the whole women and men judge all the time and how we all want to change ourselves and stuff, well some of us(like me) are okay with the way we look and don't lie about it. Ive even told ppl how much i really weight (that's a biggy). So before you say women meaning a all of them pls note that there are some of us who actually like our won bodies and how we look.
-PrettynPink

Hear Hear...I would change my ears.