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05-26-2012, 09:52 AM
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My personal opinion - I'm with you. Fictional stories about sexual relationships with a minor is absolutely a breeding ground for new child predators. Hold your ground on that one. The research on the effects of pornography would be excellent support for your argument. Study after study shows that pornography leads to anti-social behavior, marital problems, desensitization, lack of care for another's pain and suffering, fantasizing about doing what they saw in the photos, and eventually to action on those thoughts (rape, molestation, etc). Studies on predators in prison have shown that nearly all child molesters viewed pornography before they became predators. Stories expressing pedophilic fantasy are merely child pornography for the imagination. Pedophiles don't need any more fantasies! Delving into the problem, reliving fantasies, etc is just as poor an outlet for pedophiles as beating things with a baseball bat is for anger-management clients. It's ineffective and feeds the problem. Here are some links to a couple articles that list excellent sources for further research on pornography http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner...Pornograp.html http://www.antiessays.com/free-essays/191339.html Research shows that 77-87% of child molesters admitted that they were imitating the sexual interactions they saw in the child pornography. And if they can imitate what they see on pictures, they will imitate what they read in stories. From a psychological and medical point of view, the argument stands that all forms of pornography - be it graphic, video or fictional - have the same effect on pedophiles - it feeds their fantasies which could, ultimately, lead to the exploitation and molesting of minors. |
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05-27-2012, 03:15 PM
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In fact, this has been the pattern of our conversations over and over and over again. You start with the name calling, I point out that just because someone fantasizes about something doesn't mean they'll do it, you go off on a tangent that doesn't relate your argument to the issue of banning pedo stories in any way, I point out this fact, then you disappear for a while, presumably because you don't have an answer to my argument. Then when the whole thing blows over, you start over again. I will admit that lately you have progressed slightly, finally making the logical connection between sick thoughts and banning stories, by claiming that the thoughts themselves are immoral (yes, I'm interpreting, so feel free to point out any flaws in my interpretation). However, I have responded to this claim and you have yet to respond back. I don't mind if you ignore me. I do mind you accusing the other side of exactly what you're doing. Since you're so interested in dictionaries, you might look up the definition of "hypocrite".
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05-28-2012, 04:14 AM
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Well, that just reiterates what's been said here over and over, "There is no actual evidence linking the writing and reading of fictional underage stories with child molestation." Your friend starts her statement with "My personal opinion-...", because she has no actual evidence that backs up her opinion. In your final paragraph you state that there's a correlation, (but not a causation), between child molestation and child porn. Both of those activities are crimes. They both involve the injuring of a child. There's no surprise that someone who could hurt a child to satisfy their own narcissistic desires would engage in both of those crimes. Writing and reading fictional works involving underage characters is not illegal and does not involve hurting a child and therefore it isn't in the same catagory as the crimes of child porn and molestation. |
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05-28-2012, 04:23 AM
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I don't like it. I think it's creepy and deplorable. As adults you're supposed to be nurturing, supportive, and act as a role model for children, not take advantage of them. This is all I'm saying about it, and I'm not going to respond to any argument about it. If I've offended you, good. Fuck off.
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05-28-2012, 04:34 AM
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That's not a problem. Reading is optional. |
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05-28-2012, 07:10 AM
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Thought Crimes
Wow. This entire conversation is just ludicrous.
There is a reason why pedophile stories are not legislated against in the literary world and that reason is because it's a "thought" crime. You cannot legislate thought "crime" because it isn't a crime. It may be a "sin" (that is between you and your God) but it's not a crime. No one has been hurt. It's all in the heads of the author and the reader. If YOU commit a real crime because you read it somewhere then YOU are the problem and not the author. Stand down from this bullshit. I can't believe the arguments given here. |
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05-29-2012, 01:55 AM
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I'll respond to the other responses later when I don't have more important stuff to do. Like live.
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So is reading and jerking off to one of them. |
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05-29-2012, 02:04 AM
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05-29-2012, 02:15 AM
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However, since reading, and writing are mainly mental exercises most of the action takes place in the reader/writer's head, and trying to say that some thoughts shouldn't be written down, or even talked about it at all, yes, that is attempting to police people's thoughts. In the novel 1984 the state of Oceania went as far as to create a new language, (New-speak) the idea being that if you could control words, you could control thoughts. To be frank I could eat alphabet soup and shit out a better argument than anything I've see you come up with, but do feel free to ignore this, as you always do when people are too real.
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05-29-2012, 02:24 AM
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05-29-2012, 02:19 PM
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Correct. In some states the age of consent is still 16, whereas in most states in the US its 18. I believe Michigan had 15 as the age of consent for a while but changed it to 18. The problem is society as a whole. Not an individual country's perspective. Most socially engineered countries, allow 16 year olds to be consenting adults, but the problem isn't that, it's the maturity level of the society. We barely trust teenagers to drive at 18, and even then, they do not show enough responsibility, so imagine a 16 year old? There are already too many teen pregnancies, that puts a significant strain on the health system. (Social Health).... sucks. Trust me.. it doesn't work. Anyway, I agree with limiting Age in the stories, because there are WAY to many Pedophiles today. And they are not about "sex" they are about "control". It's easier to control someone who doesn't even know what is going on. Most 14 and younger don't have the sexual maturity to deal with that type of 'invasion'. Though I agree, SOME do, but most do not. What is legal or what is not, is irrelevant. Sexual maturity at 18 years of age, means the character has had some experience and understands what they are doing. Younger, would be just for 'control' and 'sadism', there's no real romance. If I had the choice between an inexperienced teen girl and an experienced 30yr old, I would choose the older woman, simply because I've expereinced both and have always had my world rocked by the older ones. To put the experience of an older woman into the body of some 14 year old, is both unrealistic and sad. (Oh, and if you 'say' that 14yr olds can, you are deluding yourself and making justifications to your desires.) They don't have the mental capacity to truly experience what an older woman can do, nor do they have the physical capabilities to have learned how to do it properly. |
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05-29-2012, 04:03 PM
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ya ban them, they are harmful
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06-02-2012, 10:53 PM
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so now we appear to be discussing how pornography is responsible for extra-marital affairs, anti-social behaviour and so on.... i think i'm going to have to partly disagree with your studies findings because i know from experience. i have viewed so much pornography the images are many, but still a small number compared to what other people have viewed (and got away with). i wasn't a people person before i started viewing porn. if you mean anti-social behaviour as in violent, criminal anti-social behaviour, pornography is still not responsible. pornography gives you something to view picture by picture when you are bored or a movie to watch either in full length or in clips and can get you off by orgasm through masturbation, thats it. probably in most people, the stimulation of your genitals with the aid of porn does give you a high, but after orgasm, thats it. after, the high goes out the window and there is really not supposed to be any aggressiveness in a person. you just get on with life until you want to do it again. psychologists, sociologists... whoever these people are who say that pornography is responsible for this that and the other (particularly anti-social behaviour) i believe are shifting the blame from what (or who) is really responsible... it is not porn, it is not any sexual activity, i know better than that. 
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06-02-2012, 11:38 PM
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So, a little report on my impromptu poll (link in sig), in which I have posted a lovely little story and asked whether it should be banned.
Only one person (thus far) believes the lovely little story must break some kind of bannable rule. Twice as many (two, thus far) say it is filth, regardless, and should be banned purely on principle. (LOL!) Eleven (thus far) say that my lovely little story is so beautiful that it has made them weep. And nine (thus far) say, "Fucking Riverdance Bitches!" (I heartily salute my good GD Friend, Azriel, who appends this default option to every one of his polls.) Now, then. Why am I posting this report on the Pedo thread? Because it is instructive. Here is where I come down firmly in the defense of HornyPixy and JoeDirty, who contend that pedophilia is essentially a punishable thought crime. When all is said and done, my little story (Replicator, link in sig) is not bannable, because it is not pedophilia. But what makes it so? The fact that the babies are actually dolls? Have I jerried the system and shoehorned the story onto the board by manipulating the rules? Have I gotten off on a technicality? Not at all. The story literally is not pedophilia, because it does not appeal to pedophiles. Pedophiles do not get off on dolls. They do not get off on robots. They do not get off on cuddly, soft, warm, 98.5 degree Fahrenheit robots. Pedophiles get off on little girls. A story "works" for pedophiles if, and only if, they can suspend disbelief, while reading the story, and use it to imagine themselves immersed in the story and acting the part of the male molester/rapist. Pedophiles do not imagine themselves copulating with dolls, or robots. Their fetish is girls. Our intrepid and well-beloved moderator, Ejls, is known to have written that stories about sex between humans and aliens from outer space are bannable if the "aliens" look like eleven year old human girls. That is fine, as far as it goes. But guess what? If you go out on Google and search for stories about human thirty-something males and outer space aliens that look like little human girls, you are not going to find very many. In fact you will find few, if any at all. Why? Because pedophiles don't want to imagine themselves getting it on with Tralfamadorian aliens that happen to look like an eleven year old Goldilocks. They are not titillated by Tralfamadorian aliens. There is no demand for that kind of story. No one cares about that kind of story. No one writes that kind of story. No moderator on this board has ever had to delete that kind of story, or ban its author. People who seek out stories about adults their own age, in congress with pre-pubescent children, are looking for those stories, because that is what they want. That is what excites them, and that is the focus of their premeditation. Robots don't do it for them. Dolls do not do it for them. Tralfamadorian aliens do not do it for them. Little girls and boys do it for them. Just as it is essentially true that we are what we eat, it is also true that we are what we think. As an atheist, I sure as hell could not fathom any other way of defining myself. I sure as hell don't have a soul. Does all of this mean I support the XNXX ban? Heck, no. I oppose censorship. Period. And as for the danger to society, that these sorts of stories pose, hey: that genie is out of the bottle.
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06-03-2012, 11:42 PM
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If you want to accuratly determine if a pedophile would accept a child-like doll or robot substitute in his fantasies, you would need to make the story actually appeal to him in every way that has nothing to do with weather the characters are real or machines in the setting, and adapt the story to repeatedly make it clear that the 'children' in the story are in fact machines. A pedophile does not fantasize about butchering, mutulating, murdering, or canabalizing children, any more than anyone else would fantasize about doing that to an adult sexual partner. If someone gets off on a story about someone doing such things to life-like simulacrums of anything, they have serious issues involving pain, suffering, and death. Attaching it to the issue of pedophilia simply invites one to fail to distinguish between the two. |
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06-04-2012, 06:42 PM
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About your story. I read it. Or rather, scanned through it after the first few pages where it just became too, too dull and predicatble. it was written with the intent to disgust and prove a point, and to some extent, well done, point proven. I'm going to admit i found it slightly boring and about as gross as week-old roadkill. I know you had some challenge with who was it, Eric the red or somebody? i've yet to see his reply, so i have nothing to compare it too. On one point i agree with you. No, it was not pedophillia. It was science-fiction at its worst, and i think you're wasting your talent writing crap like that. You have the ability to write books that will get published and be a source of true fame and income, but not while you wile away the hours on what appears to be one-sided bets. did i find it offensive? No. I'm hardly ever offended by things written with that specific purpose, just like forced humour is rarely funny. to offend me, you would have needed to challenge my intelligence and intellect, and the story did not have the credibility to do that. Did i find it gross? No. Like you said, it was dolls. Did i find it sick? No. i found it slightly sad that you spent so much brain power on something that proves, essentially, nothing that hasn't been proven before. did i find it creative, imaginitive and well-written? Without a doubt, yes. (I do wish to congratulate you on your superb use of language.) its not pedophillia. That i agree with. That kind of story can appeal to nobody, not even the sickest of fucks. why? Because its not realistic. I've yet to find an unrealistic story that turns me on. If it's not believable, chances are i won't bother to finish it. To end my discussion (i really had nothing left to prove in this post, nor anything new to say that i have not said before [in excruciating detail]) i'll say this: If we are what we eat, could i please have one skinny person to go? |
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06-05-2012, 01:12 AM
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So. I could be great? If only I would grow up and get serious? Like, umm, Suzie Collins? Or Stephie Meyer? Please. I write trite, crass filth, and I do it here. Not for the money. Not for fame. I do what I do here, because THE NOVEL FORM IS DEAD. You know, hornypixy, you seem to be extraordinarily angry. You should find something with which to summon joy from within yourself, and focus on that. Just saying.
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06-05-2012, 12:41 PM
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People who fantasize doing little children should be spaded..sick sick sick
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06-05-2012, 02:40 PM
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Go ahead and say you believe that pedo stories do more harm than good. Without any evidence one way or the other, that opinion is just as valid as any other. But when you talk about "theoretically" like that, it makes me think you put the blinders back on and have completely forgotten that "theoretically" the outcome could be just the opposite of what you believe. Sorry about the rant. Can we still be friends?  Quote:
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06-09-2012, 02:23 PM
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If you don't like a certain type of story, don't go there. This is a SEX SITE, and you can read or watch whatever you want. I hate censorship nazis, who am i to tell you what to read or watch, and who are you to censor me or what I read or watch. Grow up, and stop trying to fence in our freedom !!!!!!!!!!
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06-09-2012, 08:05 PM
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As for the novel form being dead, well, i'll not agree on that, and i suspect few other people would. There's nothing nicer than reading a great book - deliving into the pages, into the minds of the characters. Movies will never quite manage to copy books in that aspect. And i must say, i found the part about me being angry surprising. here i thought i was rather happy-go-lucky with a strong streak of stubborn ass, so i was truly astonished to find out that i come across as angry. I assure you i'm far too lazy to hold grudges. Whatever you do, please don't stop writing. unless you plan on writing twilight fan fiction, since we're discussing stephenie meyer. If the idea takes ever takes root, just... ignore it. like all other temptations, it too will eventually fade. |
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06-09-2012, 08:13 PM
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 Plus, you know, i forgive you for the rant. You're entitled to your opininion, just like i am to mine. Besides, i fear this conversation is heading towards the "Is not!" "Is too!" "Is not!" "Is TOO!" end of the scale. And the whole cannibal thing... yeah..... no. I'f im going to put any body parts in my mouth, you can be sure they'll still be uncooked and attatched to a living, breathing person (preferably male.) But good spot on that joke. i totally missed it. |
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06-09-2012, 09:18 PM
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lets remember and keep in mind that pedophiles are those who are sexually attracted to girls and or boys who are thirteen years and younger really.
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06-12-2012, 02:52 PM
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Another difference is that illegal does not mean pedo (prepubescent); that is the reason for the "STATUTORY" predicate for coitus involving minors or those in positions of subordination to their predators. The problem is, who is the predator in a situation where the minor is the one pursuing the encounter? DaddyCum's Allison and the Primdales is a good example of how to handle this thorny issue and it develops one HELL of a lot of thorns for the children involved during the telling. Do I recognize that once sexual activity has begun, they will not voluntarily turn back; yes. Do I like seeing children have sex; no. Do I like seeing them seduced into sex; HELL no! Do I like seeing them coerced into sex; just kill the predator so that they cannot rape any more. Protect them from exploitation as much as possible but that protection can only go so far. Children have a wonderful capability for exploration which can lead them into injury. Once injured, however, the primary concern should be caring for that injury and helping them to heal instead of creating a potential for more injury. Once injured, they need care givers and teachers not judges and protectors. Once they become sexually active, they need love, support, and guidance instead of mental rape. Remember that if they have been seduced into sex then they have likely formed a bond with their predator; attempting to simply break that bond is a trauma in itself. BTW - I once heard an interesting definition for that word - love : That condition where the well being of another person means as much to you as your own well being itself. Love is not jealous; it is freely given. Love is not possessive; it does not require reciprocity. Love places no demands or restrictions on the object of that love. Love wants to make the object of that love happy, satisfied, feel good. Sounds kinda romantic, ya know? Love is a decision which, when made honestly, is extremely hard to unmake. Lust is an easy choice to make and and simple to unmake. If you don't believe me about love, try to prove me wrong. Just be prepared for the consequences -  (remember the inherent limitations on the hypothesis)Back to the involvement of developing teens and using Allison and the Primdales as an example. In my opinion, the most powerful chapter of that story was not when Jeff was having sex with any of his many partners but when Brit ran away because of the torture that their father was imposing on her and Jeff and the way that Jeff reacted to that torture. They were not being taught with love but by dictate and emotions cannot be dealt with in that manner. |
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06-12-2012, 03:05 PM
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This is a extreme hardcore adult forum for fuck sake get over this shit and move on. If u dont like whats posted on this forum fuck off.The end. Stop replying this thread so it can just sink down.
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06-12-2012, 03:52 PM
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06-13-2012, 09:15 AM
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Nope. The novel form is dead. Publishers are going bankrupt by the hundreds per quarter; advances are down; bookstores are disappearing; people do not purchase books in the volumes that they once did; people do not read as they once did; and electronic media are not even beginning to make up for the loss. The populace has also been dumbed down. Here in the states, the adult best seller list is dominated by poorly written childrens' books (Hunger Games) and even more poorly written soft porn (Shades of Gray). The adults who are buying those books, for the most part, do not even realize that they are reading either books for children or soft porn, respectively, so they can hardly be expected to realize that they are also reading trash. As for you, and your motivations for persisting with your inane nonsense: Please cut the crap. Who are you, really? Naw, forget it. As though I would ever get the bare semblance of an honest answer. Goddamn it, I am so sick and tired of this sock shit. What am I even doing here? Oh, yeah, that's right. Leaving. But I'll be back. For more abuse from socks.
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06-13-2012, 11:00 AM
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2010 Book and E-Book Sales Data for the United States by John Soares on February 16, 2011 39 inShare Freelance writers, book authors, and creators of information products should pay attention to book sales. The data for both print books and e-books tells us what consumers are paying for and gives indications of future trends, trends we can take advantage of. 2010 Sales Figures for Books and E-books The Association of American Publishers provides monthly statistics on sales figures. The latest report includes information for all of 2010. Here’s the AAP press release: AAP Publishers Report Strong Growth in Year-to-Year, Year-End Book Sales $11.67 Billion Sales Mark +3.6 Percent Increase vs Calendar Year 2009, December Sales Rise +2.4 Percent; E-book Sales Continue to Break Records with +164.4 Percent Gains for 2010 New York, NY, February 16, 2011— US publishers’ book sales across all platforms increased +2.4 percent in December 2010 vs December 2009 and +3.6 percent for the full year vs 2009, it was reported today by the Association of American Publishers (AAP). Virtually every book publishing category showed growth in one or both comparisons, with the phenomenal popularity of E-books continuing. “As more formats have evolved and are served by the publishing community, consumers have more choices. These strong sales numbers reflect the efforts of AAP publishers and the response of book audiences,” said Tom Allen, President and CEO, AAP. Among the highlights*: • Total sales for December 2010 were strong, showing a +2.4 percent gain vs December 2009 ($1.58 Billion vs $1.54B). • Total sales for calendar year 2010 also jumped +3.6 percent vs calendar year 2009 ($11.67B vs $11.25B) • E-books grew a dramatic +164.8 percent in December 2010 vs the previous year ($49.5 Million vs $18.7M). In the AAP’s ninth year of tracking this category, E-books once again increased significantly on an annual basis, up +164.4 percent for 2010 vs 2009 ($441.3M vs $166.9M). E-book sales represented 8.32 percent of the trade book market in 2010 vs 3.20 percent the previous year. A chart tracking nine years of E-book sales is included below. • Books on other digital platforms also experienced healthy sales growth. For December 2010, Downloaded Audio Books increased +56.7 percent to $8.9M and Physical Audio Books increased +34.5 percent to $15.8M. For the calendar year, Downloaded Audio Books sales rose by +38.8 percent to $81.9M (vs $59.0M in 2009), while Physical Audio Books fell 6.3 percent, at $137.3M for 2010 vs $146.5M for the previous year. • Children’s book categories saw higher sales in December 2010 vs the year before: Children’s/Young Adults Paperbacks were up +4.5 percent (to $48.9M) and Hardcover Children’s/Young Adults grew +0.2 percent (to $59.7M). Year vs year sales of children’s books fell somewhat; the former decreased 5.7 percent (to $546.6M) and the latter declined 9.5 percent (to $694.3M). • All three Adult book categories also showed gains vs December 2009: Adult Hardcover was up +23.1 percent (to $148.2M), Adult Paperback grew by +4.5 percent (to $127.6M) and Adult Mass Market rose by +14.6 percent (to $57.1M). The categories fell slightly for 2010 vs calendar year 2009 with Hardbacks sales at $1.57B vs $1.65B in 2009 (-5.1 percent); Paperbacks reaching $1.38B vs $1.41B in 2009 (-2.0 percent) and Mass Market at $673.5M for 2010 vs $718.9M (-6.3 percent). • Educational book sales saw full year-to-year increases: Higher Education grew +7.8 percent in 2010 (to $4.58B) and K-12 Elementary/High School posted a +3.2 percent gain (to $3.59B). K-12 El/Hi also hit a +1.4 percent increase for December 2010 (to $147.0M) while Higher Education reached $890.2M for December (-3.6 percent). • Sales of University Press Hardcover books decreased 8.2 percent in December (to $6.0M) with a 0.5 percent decline for 2010 ($57.8M). University Press Paperbacks grew for 2010 by +1.3 percent (to $61.6M) and fell 2.5 percent for December ($8.9M). • Professional books sales increased +5.0 percent for 2010 over 2009 (to $812.9M); for December, they fell 3.5 percent (to $108.9M). • Religious Books showed 0.5 percent decline for 2010 vs 2009 (at $585.4M) and -11.8 percent for December ($49.9M). *All figures cited above are domestic net sales. Analyzing the 2010 Book and E-Book Sales Data The Print Book Isn’t Dead Note that total sales of print books for 2010 was approximately the same as sales for 2009 when sales of e-books are subtracted. This shows that there is still strong demand for physical books. E-Books Sales Show Strong Growth Sales increased 164% to $441.3 million year over year. That’s a lot of money, and it shows that there’s potential for authors to make serious cash from e-book sales. And note that these figures are for sales from mainstream textbook publishers: they don’t take into account all the information product e-books sold by individual entrepreneurs from individual sites. This site and the products I sell are just one example, and there are tens of thousands of other writers selling their own e-books. (Note: see my post on why traditional publishers should pay a 50% royalty on e-books.) Educational Textbook Sales Are Also Strong I’m a freelance writer who creates supplements and ancillaries for college textbooks, so it’s good news for me and other freelance writers in the same niche. More sales of textbooks means more profits, which means more money to pay us. Your Take? What stands out for you in this data? How can you take advantage of these trends? Have you written books? Are you writing a book or an e-book right now? Share! So there you go Clarice. surprise a seagull and pluck a stout feather from his nether regions, sharpen yon tip and inscribe upon the parchment those wondrous words of yours; confident now that the filthy lucre can indeed be a part, crass though it needs must be, of the rewards you can gain for your labors.
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Hah! Nice! You are not wrong. Of course not. As a software architect by profession, I happen to make a pretty good living on books: in the non-fiction realm. Now, to be clear, I am not saying that the book is dead; I am saying that the novel form is dead. And even this statement must be qualified. True, more novels are being published than ever before, if one considers e-platforms. Similarly, there is more music being produced than ever before. Considering all platforms. What I mean is that the business model is dead. The business model is dead for music, in the sense that music has become a commodity. The profit model has gone out the window, and with it the incentive by major studios to provide quality and to promote quality work. Since the quality and promotion models have eroded, even the best artists seldom ever are given the wherewithal to attain superstar status. The big stadium acts are gone. Now, the surviving dregs of the music industry will of course spin that positively by saying that consumers now have "more choices." True. But the choices, by and large, suck. Sort of like satellite television: 600 channels, and nothing on. The same thing has happened with the novel form. Book quality is in the tank, because brick and mortar publishers are dying and can no longer afford editors. Writers are receiving smaller volume sales and lower compensation, despite the higher royalty model of the e-market, so authors have less incentive to invest time in producing quality work. Since anyone can e-publish, and since brick-and-mortars no longer impose themselves on writers and provide the essential service of peer review/vetting, the market has been glutted with hundreds of thousands of e-books per year. Yet, while we could look at this positively and say that we have more choices, the tradeoff is the same for novels that we are seeing for music and television: most of the choices are trash. I know this sounds cynical and perhaps pessimistic. It is not. Lately on another thread I have been picking on Sue Collins for her Hunger Games series. I do not begrudge her success. I am simply pointing out the highly artificial and contrived confluence of stars that have been aligned on her work: 1. Adults buy, read and are challenged by childrens' books now without knowing the difference; 2. She struck it rich by tapping the public's thirst for the violent and the macabre; 3. Scholastic hit it exactly right by promoting a plotline that lampoons capitalism at the worst period of the mini-recession. 4. Scholastic struck a deal with Summit Pictures, which in turn pumped upwards of $50 million in marketing, in order to manufacture a contrived sensation. In other words, the book is a contrived fad, a cherry-picked vehicle for the major motion picture and merchandising opportunity that Summit needed in order to follow up on the soon-to-close Twilight series. Which, in turn, is also a contrived fad derived from yet another childrens' book (okay, in that case young teen). So, there are sensations. But readers do not choose them. Promoters choose them. And everything else-- everything else, almost without exception-- languishes. And finally, dear God in heaven, look at the exceptions! Do they prove the rule, or what? The other mega-blockbuster? The other bookend, to go with Hunger Games on the volume bestseller lists? A trashy, atrociously written soft-porn fanfiction adaptation of Twilight. That is what has become of the novel form. I stand by the word: dead.
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I do feel the need to point out (this is not an attack, please, just an opinion) that you are hardly choosing the best examples from modern literature to prove your point. I asume you've read Stieg Larsson's Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series? If you have, you will admit that there's brilliance in there. And what about John Grisham, Tess Gerritsen, Suzanne Brockmann, Stephen King, jK Rowling (yes, i know, Harry Potter proves your point about adults reading children's books, but i'll happily plead guilty to loving it ). i love romantic stories - im not ashamed of it. i read susan elizabeth phillips and julia quinn and sophie kinsella and kristan higgins and nora roberts and i'm not ashamed of it. i agree that the level of litteracy has slowly been going in a different direction than the gut-wrenching, soul-crushing dramas the libraries of the world are peppered with, but i must admit that i'm grateful for this. I don't count self-published e-books amongst the novel form when i defend it, because if your book was not good enogh for a publisher, it probably won't be good enough for the public either. The amount of people who enjoy reading are a minority compared to the world population, but they are a discerning lot who wants quality - and is willing to pay for it. its the same as producing home made porn recorded by a cellphone camera in really bad light and expecting people to pay for it. it has its place, but don't make the mistake of thinking all porn are like that, or you're going to end up never watching porn. And yes, this is a metaphor for books. There are bad stuff out there, yes. but there is a hell of a lot of good stuff too. |
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As to who i am? the truth? Im a girl who wishes desperately to be sombody else, and yet at the same time i love being me. thats as true as it gets. i'm 24, a teacher from south africa, and i don't seem to have any special talents other than reading ridiculously fast. i'm not pretty. I'm not thin. i'm not good at drawing pretty pictures and identifying wines. I'm good at keeping to myself. I like to think i have a good sense of humor, but i believe everybody think that about themselves, so i might be completely off-target there. I am intelligent and witty and sharp-tongued when i'm not actually face-to-face with somebody. I'm no good at conflict and i'm socially akward outside my comfort zone. I didn't fit into any cliques at school, nor did i want to, particularly. My chances of meeting somebody who will love me desperately are slim to none, and im surprisingly fine with that. im too lazy and too much of an introvert to be good at relationships. I've only kissed a few guys, and never had sex with one. by choice, as much as a lack of opportunity. I'm not sure who you thought i was, or what i was going to say, but there it is. I'm not even average by society's standards. If i was some hot babe, i would have been out having actual sex, rather than wrting about it. i know that i sound horribly poathetic, but i've long since stopped caring about people's opinions about me - i only care what about my opinion about myself, because while i can get away from people, there's no escaping myself. but like i say, i'm only average on the outside. I'm a mess of contradictions - LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE OUT THERE. Really, feel free to insult me, or say something along the lines of 'this is a fucking waste of time, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah'... just know i'm too lazy to get upset by it. it's like,"oh, well." |
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Wasn't Shakespeare considered trash?
Charles Dickens? Clarise,you realize how petty you sound?
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1. You're a pedo. 2. I'm not. 3. Ha ha! I'm better than you! 4. (Missing a step) 5. Therefore, pedo stories should be banned! I'm still waiting for him to fill in #4.
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...so... Stephie Meyer is Shakespeare? ...and..... Sue Collins is....Dickens?  Listen, I know I need all the help I can get, but, umm.... could you please not try quite so hard to prove my point?
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Ohhhh, sheesh! Most of your barbs are dead-on, but I don't think I was petty. Wanna see petty? Does Scotty luv Katniss? Or does Scotty luv Peeta? Do you mind if I use "victriolic tansy" in my next story? Should I properly attribute it? There. That's petty. Sheesh, Scotsmitch. You're usually an okay dude. What the hell?
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. . . We expect far more of paradise than what we bring to it, yet we can bring no more than ourselves, and we can appreciate no more than what we presuppose to exist there. Thus, even in a heaven of limitless breadth and capacity, we perceive naught but ourselves upon our deaths, even though it is we whom we long to escape.. My novels (two here and a third on the way) - 700,000+ reads ( featuring God, Satan, and the Antichrist ) . . . |
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Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu York http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-...tion/list.html This Week Last Week Combined Print & E-Book Fiction Weeks on List 1 1 FIFTY SHADES OF GREY, by E. L. James. (Knopf Doubleday Publishing.) An inexperienced college student falls in love with a tortured man who has particular sexual tastes; the first book in a trilogy. 14 2 2 FIFTY SHADES DARKER, by E. L. James. (Knopf Doubleday Publishing.) Ana Steele learns more about Christian Grey’s troubled past; the second book in a trilogy. 14 3 3 FIFTY SHADES FREED, by E. L. James. (Knopf Doubleday Publishing.) The final book in an erotic trilogy. 13 4 THE STORM, by Clive Cussler and Graham Brown. (Penguin Group.) In the 10th NUMA Files novel, Kurt Austin and his team battle a plan to change the world’s weather. 1 5 4 FIFTY SHADES TRILOGY, by E. L. James. (Knopf Doubleday Publishing.) The three “Fifty Shades” novels in one bundle. 7 6 5 11TH HOUR, by James Patterson and Maxine Paetro. (Little, Brown & Company.) Detective Lindsay Boxer and the Women’s Murder Club investigate a possible serial killer. 4 7 7 ON THE ISLAND, by Tracey Garvis-Graves. (Tracey Garvis-Graves.) An English teacher and the teenage boy she has agreed to tutor are stranded on an island in the Indian Ocean. 8 8 A NIGHT LIKE THIS, by Julia Quinn. (HarperCollins Publishers.) Anne Wynter might not be who she says she is, but she’s managing quite well as a governess to three highborn young ladies — until she attracts the attention of a dashing earl. 1 9 6 STOLEN PREY, by John Sandford. (Penguin Group.) When a Minnesota family is murdered, the investigator Lucas Davenport believes a Mexican drug gang is involved. 3 10 RESCUE ME, by Rachel Gibson. (HarperCollins Publishers.) Everyone in Lovett, Tex., wants to see Sadie married. Could Vince, a former Navy SEALs member, be the one? 1 11 9 THE MARRIAGE BARGAIN, by Jennifer Probst. (Entangled Publishing.) A billionaire who needs a wife offers a one-year marriage in name only to a bookstore owner. 9 12 8 THE INNOCENT, by David Baldacci. (Grand Central Publishing.) A hit man who has become a target of the government rescues a teenage girl whose parents were murdered. 7 13 SUMMER DAYS, by Susan Mallery. (Harlequin.) In a land dispute in the town of Fool’s Gold, Rafe Stryker finds himself trapped in a place he vowed never to set foot in again. 1 14 BIG SKY COUNTRY, by Linda Lael Miller. (Harlequin.) Slade, a Montana sheriff, has suddenly inherited half of Whisper Creek Ranch. This doesn’t sit well with his half brother. 1 15 13 A GAME OF THRONES, by George R. R. Martin. (Random House Publishing.) In the frozen wastes to the north of Winterfell, sinister and supernatural forces are mustering. 32 Related Article Also Selling
There don't appear to be too many juvenile stories on this list Clarice. Seriously adults who read get pretty picky about what's good enough for them and young adult fiction doesn't often make the grade. I'm devouring Maeve Binchy at the moment just as a bye the bye. I wouldn't get too wound up about the overall state of things, the old rule still applies; if its a good read it will sell.
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Again the fictional nature of the stories ISN'T the issue.
 Sexual attraction to little kids is the issue. There's NO WAY that any person can seek after and jerk off to such stories and not have a sexual attraction to little kids. There's a big ass difference between being sexually attracted to 18+ year olds who look like jailbait and being attracted to jailbait, idgit. Last edited by JoeDirty; 06-15-2012 at 03:09 AM. |
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As for what triggered it is the fact you are giving those books way more credit than they deserve. It comes over as pettiness. I grew up on a steady diet of books that, for me now, have no literary merit whatsoever, Biggles, Just William, Billy Bunter etc. I read Enid Blytons The Famous Five Series, a group of books that were hackneyed, derivative and formulaic. What those books did to was spark an interest and desire for reading that has carried me through life. You are deriding popular children's fiction. It has a demographic, you are not it. Whether those particular books will be remembered is up to history. As I stated before, you are giving a personal opinion, I get it, I understand but I also think you are wrong.
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Back in the day I used to get two or three PMs a week from new women asking me to be their "daddy". That's how I knew I'd written it right, those women got it, and since those were the women I was interested in that worked out great. Until you write this kind of stuff you have no idea how many women have a little girl inside that just wants to be told the daddy loves her. I honestly couldn't keep up, it was awesome, but that's over now, and I accept that, but what I won't ever do is agree that it was a good idea, or back down on the principle of free speech. Now let me get real here. As a writer, daddy/daughter incest fantasies are fun to write because the extremity of incest, and pedophilia as plot devices lend themselves so easily to dealing with a lot of interesting questions about society, mostly in the subtext because as a sex story you don't want to beat your readers over the head with the deeper themes, you want them to think about it later, and discover those things on their own. Child molesters, and that's who we should all be worried about, they don't need my stories to be attracted to children, and I tend to doubt that they spend their time on xnxx talking to other adults about under age sex stories. They're on the Disney site, or where ever else children congregate because they are into real children. I'll give you credit for still showing up to argue the point which is something not to many will do now that they've got their way. I always argued the point, even when it was our way, and you could post anything, and there's a good reason for that. If things are the way you think they should be, then it's even more important that you be willing to put up a good argument as to why you think it should be that way. To me it's important.
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OK, lets look at that. Well I agree, it might well be that their fantasy is of pictures or images of children and that the idea of doing anything sexual with a real child is something they would never do but the core issue is jeking off, either to stories or images of young children. So lets say they do have a sexual attraction to young kids; is that a perversion? Its socially unacceptable in Western society and any who do indulge are destined for a lifetime behind bars but what of other societies? Moslem girls can and do marry at seven. They are sexually active once married. Vaginal sex isn't permitted till they're mature women of nine (  ) and if you told a Moslem that was disgusting you'd get an argument from him. Child brides are common around the world, very prevalent in Africa at the moment apparently.I'm with you; kids are kids and deserve a childhood but the reality is that being attracted to young kids is in the adult male sex drive. There is no solution Joe, anything can turn them on and true pedophiles simply can't stop themselves. That's why lifelong incarceration for them is such a good option. As a parents my wife I kept my kids safe by being there and being watchful.
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My rant is not against excellent childrens' books that children read, such as Bridge to Terabithia, or City of Ember. The rant is targeted at blockbusters that become blockbusters because they cross over to an adult market. And I am not even troubled that adults read a book like Mockingjay and enjoy it. Hell, I've read the entire Hunger Games series. I enjoyed it so much that I read it twice. What I have a problem with is the outrage I get from adults who do not understand that it is a childrens' book! They are insulted by the implicit insinuation that they have been challenged by material that is targeted to an eleven year old reading level. And why do they even know about the blockbuster, in order to read it? They're insulted, also, by the insinuation that they have not made an informed, principled choice, but that they have simply followed the herd. Summit pumped eight figures into the marketing of Hunger Games. That is why they know about it. That is why it is one of the few books they will have read this year. Yet the novel form, and the industry that supports it, is dying around that blockbuster, and no one sees that. As always, SM, the weird part is that we probably do not disagree. I mean, heck: from what I can gather, we are probably on this thread for much the same reason. The whole Sue Collins/Stephie Meyer business started because I posted a story. Lots of people liked it. Some didn't. No problem. Most of the people here hate my stuff, and so be it. They have taste. I don't. But then I had to respond to some filthy sock with 20 posts who claims to be a daughter of apartheid, when she told me that the trash I write is beneath me. Damn it, I have a right to pen and post whatever I please, and I'm sick and tired of all the moralizing from the thought police! My point is that Sue and Stephie write what they write, where they write it, for whatever reason. I write what I write, here, for my own reasons. If you like it, read it. If you don't like it, don't read it. I think that is pretty much the position of Eric, Prurient, DC, and yourself. Right?
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Pretty much. I have read The Hunger Games, Twilight and Harry Potter and much as I thought, I didn't like them, finding them derivative and a mishmash of other, better writes. But read them I did, so I could make an informed decision.
As for stories on Xnxx, I have not read anything that offends me. I have read plenty I don't like though. There are genres I don't read because the subject matter holds little interst for me, therefore I don't read them. That is why I dont understand why people read stories that offend them ( these are probably the same people that watch a TV show in its entirety then complain about the use of sex or swearing, although there was a warning at the start), I have stated this before and I will again for the members who seem to think the world revolves around their sense of morality. I come from a country where you can have sex legally at 16. You could get married at 14 with both sets of parents consent. Technically, in America, that would , if I chose to have a lover that young make me a pedo. Is that right Joe?
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just to clarify something, please explain to me what 'filthy sock' means. it kind if sounds like a petty, smallminded insult right up there with four-eyes and fatso. does it have some hidden meaning i've yet to stumble upon? Maybe some referencee to people who've been on here longer? I honestly dont know. must be an american thing. Like i said before, you seem to be defending yourself againt a non-existent attack. You asked for opinions on your story (admittedly, maybe not mine) so i gave one. If you don't like what i thought i'm really sorry. Im not going to tell you its a brilliant story because, well, you didn't write it to win any awards. It was written to insult and horrify and scandalize and prove a point. Chances are really big you would not like my stories either. They're safe and non-insulting. Like you said yourself, tastes differ. i can't help but lift my eyebrows at the fact that i gave you a compliment on your abilities and had it thrown back in my face when you focussed on the negative things i said about one of the stories you wrote. I'm also amused by the fact that you changed your attack from 'the novel form is dead' to 'blockbusters are stealing the limelight from good books.' that last one is true - for a certain demographic. People who are serious about reading know that there are better stuff out there than the latest blockbuster, and guess what they're going to read when they're done with the popular fiction? The serious stuff. But nevermind. It seems likely that i've made an enemy in you, and i'm guessing that from now on, any time we comment on the same thread we will disagree on principle. Yes i'm new here, but for goodness sake, i can't see why that disqualifies me from having an opinion. |
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I agree with you. the only way to protect the children is for parents to take care of their own kids and make sure they don't get abused. I didn't know that about the moslems; its shocking that rape can be made legal! |
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You can be a real shit sometimes, but that's cool, because with my wise-ass attitude, I usually have it coming. In the end, we usually do pretty much agree, though, and even when we don't, I respect your opinions, because you're an author and you're real!
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Politics is not worthy of being discussed even on a site dedicated to "filth and perversions"; it's just too filthy. |
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