White Privilege

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by Old Tool

Oh, and thanks for the apology for disparaging my own experience with living in shitty conditions, having to decide whether to eat or go to the coin laundry on certain days, and not knowing if my kids were going to have clothes to wear by their next birthdays . . . you're a real humanitarian, stumbler

Besides you never told me what graduate school you were attending during this dire time of your life Old Tool.

[richief]

Do I feel privileged, no, no-one handed me anything I did not earn, I am taking disability benefits now but I went from 16 - 49 working non stop with only a month between two jobs, when I was out of work I didn't claim monies I did agency driving, not a lot of money but it covered my bills and bought my food.

Hard work, hard living and playing as left my body in a piss poor shape, knees fucked, neck fucked, shoulder fucked but repaired and on top of that lot my heart is fucked my bone marrow is trying to kill me with the aid of my auto immune system so no I feel I have no privilege in life, but I did enjoy it.

[tim929]

Originally Posted by smcaaphd

I really wasn't going to post in this thread - but I am reading it avidly!!

However, I have to disagree with your opinion on what constitutes poverty in third world countries, and people's acceptance of it (I speak from the experience of having voluntary work with refugee and asylum seekers from the Congo, and other third-world countries).

Many were not happy with their 'lot in life'. They had no access to clean drinking water, surely one of the basic expectations to life in the 21st century? Those of us in Europe and the US who think nothing of turning on a tap and being able to drink the water that comes out without fear of cholera, typhoid, or any other water-borne diseases are among a very small percentage of people globally who have that luxury!! Even when we flush our toilets - the water that takes away the waste products is cleaner than the water people living in third world poverty drink!!

Further to that, when people in our privileged world experience flooding or water shortage, there is always a government-backed solution to provide and disperse water to the citizenry. People in drought-ridden places may have to walk for days at a time to access dirty water just to keep themselves and their families from dying of dehydration.

Then there's health care; while the child mortality rate in the US shockingly high compared to the likes of Europe (and, surprisingly Cuba - who have an excellent comparable health system), the overall health care provided is better than that available in the third world; not least because of the access to doctors and free clinics - in the UK and other places, we're even luckier because everyone has a right to health care free at point of delivery, and for those who do not work, even their prescriptions are free!!

If we take the case of Aids/HIV, in first world countries, it is possible to receive treatment/medication to alleviate the symptoms (and to postpone death) by years. However third world countries cannot afford the expensive medications needed for this. Although I'm unsure of the figures - and I'm notoriously far too lazy to go looking them up - there is a high comparable figure of death from HIV/Aids compared to western countries.

Food and hunger/starvation are two more points that I would use to argue against your post. While there are many charitable organisations who distribute food in third world countries, there are many people who go without daily and even weekly. They are malnourished, and thus more susceptible to disease.

Add to that the on-going internal wars within these countries, the fear of not knowing if your village is going to be invaded by soldiers from either side of the fighting, whether you're going to watch your parents get murdered or your children carted off to be forced to fight, and I'd say they would probably be feeling less than happy, even if they didn't know any other way of life!!

On the other hand, I have also spoken to people from Somalia; one of whom was from a fishing village on the coast. Somalia is, as you are probably aware, a failed state - no government at all. But people there had generators for electricity, and as they were from a coastal, fishing village, they had food.

Unfortunately, their village was raided and all inhabitants in the village at that time were killed. When the fishermen returned home, they saw what had happened and fled either over land or by water to neighbouring countries where they sought safety.

So, to summarise - if happiness is an acceptance of what life throws at us, then yes - people living in third world countries are happy. But other than that, I can't see parents being ecstatic when watching their children die off slowly one by one due to hunger or disease, or men being anything near pleased when they see their wives and daughters raped; or children being enthused about having to murder their parents for the 'privilege' of becoming child soldiers.

This post is, of course, out of context with the whole thread, which I see has descended into the usual chaos; but happy camping, campers!!

In large part I agree with what you have posted here. My experience comes only from Tanzania where conditions of poverty look very much the same as they do in many other first world countries but where the government is stable and water is generaly fairly easy to obtain and relatively clean or at least easy to treat. Tanzania has made enormous leaps in compairison to many other African nations in regards to sanitation and water treatment. Although a great deal of effort still goes into obtaining water and food, these two comodities are generaly much easier to obtain than they are in other, less stable countries. But they still live in conditions that those of us in Europe or North America would consider abysmal and yet they enjoy a relatively good outlook on life since stepping on land mines and dodging AK fire arent serious considerations. Infant mortality is high but is still considerably lower than many other countries as is hunger and dehydration issues. HIV/AIDS in Tanzania is still a serious problem as are certain other health problems but they continue to improve. My friends have been living there for the last decade and as I said befor, the people there arent nearly as miserable as they are in places like Somalia, Congo and others. Most are in fact quite happy. Sure, they wouldnt mind having more but having what they have isnt realy bad...but it would be considered criminal in the U.S.

[baller16]

Originally Posted by ejls

Baller, I never said humans started by assuming, but I think if we went back to cave man times and a large male was walking along, carrying a club, a smaller male would have assumed that he was a bully and should be afraid of him. He very well could have just been the club repair man making a delivery.

Stereotyping is today's human nature. Judgements aren't just made by the spoiled rich. Not at all. You can't tell me that a white person isn't judged by someone of another color, simply based on their looks. Everyone judges everyone. Some are just more accepting than others.

No. Sorry, but the only time it has anything to do with instinct or anything other than a conscious decision is when you need street smarts or something similar (given that street smarts is in fact a form of survival mode, which comes from nature) That cave man didn't have time for that bullshit. That cave-man sized up the bigger person and decided whether or not he could kill that person if need be. That's it.

Again, no. It's not and never has been a part of nature. Street smarts/survival mode is completely different than judging or stereotyping people based on certain things. Period.

Originally Posted by smcaaphd

This post is, of course, out of context with the whole thread, which I see has descended into the usual chaos; but happy camping, campers!!

And who is responsible for their conditions? They didn't appear out of nowhere.

Why is their water dirty again? Why are they so poor? Why do they have such conflicts?

Originally Posted by stumbler

Actually I think in reality that's what you're doing right now Orion. I clearly tried to steer this back to the topic and pointed the irony of two white guys in this country talking about being poor.

And think you've always been able to afford more than floors and feet.

Why is it ironic for white people to talk about poverty? Do you have any idea how many poor white people there are in this country?

Originally Posted by richief

Do I feel privileged, no, no-one handed me anything I did not earn, I am taking disability benefits now but I went from 16 - 49 working non stop with only a month between two jobs, when I was out of work I didn't claim monies I did agency driving, not a lot of money but it covered my bills and bought my food.

Hard work, hard living and playing as left my body in a piss poor shape, knees fucked, neck fucked, shoulder fucked but repaired and on top of that lot my heart is fucked my bone marrow is trying to kill me with the aid of my auto immune system so no I feel I have no privilege in life, but I did enjoy it.

Enough of the fucking act already.

This is what, the THIRD time you've made your little speech? That's how I know you're full of shit. Nobody asked you, yet you feel such a need to continuously mention this shit.

You are privileged. It's written all over every one of your posts.

[Alfakun]

quiero mas sexo si osi

[cijababe]

Originally Posted by x__orion

No, I was poorer, damnit!

I'd stamp my foot but I'm too poor to afford feet (or a floor).

[suri]

Originally Posted by baller16

I don't care what kind of "poverty" you've experienced

Those sounds like the words of a stuck up privileged person. Not that you are .. but fuck it sounds really bad.

Originally Posted by baller16

Actually, unlike you fake fucks, I've never claimed to know real poverty.

Me thinks the Baller doth protest too much. If you haven't then what's all this stuff about "your level" and "your struggle"?

Originally Posted by baller16

I respect boundaries.

This comment is actually ridiculous.

[suri]

And Baller .. what about with cops? Are you going to say that white people don't enjoy privilege and favoritism when it comes to the police? I mean racial profiling usually excludes us doesn't it?

[suri]

Originally Posted by virginal vixen

As a black woman that comes from a very comfortable background in my opinion, you really probably don't want to hear my opinion.

Honestly .. I'm sure I would love to read your thoughts.

Originally Posted by virginal vixen

Well please forgive me. I did not mean too come off as hash to the others, and you. I take back what I said.

[L+R]

[N.E. Woman]

Originally Posted by cijababe

That was the funniest clip I have ever seen. Thank you Cija!

[baller16]

Originally Posted by suri

And Baller .. what about with cops? Are you going to say that white people don't enjoy privilege and favoritism when it comes to the police? I mean racial profiling usually excludes us doesn't it?

People get stereotyped by police based on how they look and how they act. I happen to know plenty of white people who've gotten pulled over for driving in nicer areas in a beat up car or for being watched by cops because of how they're dressed or how they act.

Does racial profiling exist? Of course it does, but more often than not, it's not about that. Stumbler posted a link about stop and frisk policies. Did that link talk about how those black people were dressed, how they looked, their mannerisms, etc?

Obviously, it's a situation where black people are screwed, without a doubt. You have to act, dress, and look a certain way in order not to be fucked with, and those things make you into a target for profiling.

Why do white people not get profiled like that? Because we really don't look very much alike. Most often, we don't have shaved heads so our different hair colors show. Most often, we don't dress very much alike because we come from all different backgrounds. There isn't much to profile us by as a race.

Originally Posted by suri

Those sounds like the words of a stuck up privileged person. Not that you are .. but fuck it sounds really bad.



Me thinks the Baller doth protest too much. If you haven't then what's all this stuff about "your level" and "your struggle"?



This comment is actually ridiculous.

It's the words of somebody who is telling somebody who claims to know real poverty that no, he or she does not. I've seen their bad neighborhoods over there. They look like our nice ones, with suburban ass houses and everything. They don't have the kind of poverty that exists over on this side of the country.

This isn't about me. This is about the fact that white privilege as a universal thing does not exist, and it's insulting to those who are legitimately poor and underprivileged to lump them in with those who are the reason for their position.

[baller16]

It's even more insulting when actually privileged white people play make believe about things or try to make it about race, something that turns working class people of all races against each other when in reality they should be fighting the very privileged white people who keep fucking them.

How do I know they're full of shit? Because I live among them and grew up with them. I know everything about them. I can spot one of them with ease based on many different things, no matter how much they pretend.

Am I full of shit about myself? Yeah, maybe, but that's not what this is about. Even despite not growing up where I claimed, everything I've said in this thread about my suburban ass upbringing being much less than what these spoiled people know was true. Everything I said about that way of life being threatened by something much worse is true. We don't border the Northeast like proof2006's county does. We're not that lucky. Our standards over here for what is spoiled or suburban are much lower than they are in nicer places around the country, in the typical US suburb, so yeah, based on these standards around my way, I probably do fit into that category. Based on universal standards though? Hell fucking no.

Either way, like I said, it's not about me. It's about not letting them spew their lies or brainwash anybody with their bullshit anymore because it isn't harmless. It's ruining my country. It ruined the world. It's a major problem that needs to be dealt with in order to fix any of the many problems we have around the world. White people is such an easy cop-out, just like the "human race" is when it comes to harming our environment. The fact is that it has always been a select group of people who just so happen to have the same skin color as some of the people they did what they did to, and a different skin color than many of the other people who they did what they did to. There's a reason they always want to make it about race, so they can hide from the truth.

[N.E. Woman]

Originally Posted by baller16

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It's the words of somebody who is telling somebody who claims to know real poverty that no, he or she does not. I've seen their bad neighborhoods over there. They look like our nice ones, with suburban ass houses and everything. They don't have the kind of poverty that exists over on this side of the country..

I was not going to get into this pissing contest, but this statement is just the epitome of ridiculous. This side and that side??? Really? There are poor neighborhoods in every state, every country and on every continent. To be fighting over who has it worse is just ludicrous. Please let's just agree that there are people that are better off and people that have less.

[baller16]

Originally Posted by N.E. Woman

I was not going to get into this pissing contest, but this statement is just the epitome of ridiculous. This side and that side??? Really? There are poor neighborhoods in every state, every country and on every continent. To be fighting over who has it worse is just ludicrous. Please let's just agree that there are people that are better off and people that have less.

It's not okay to claim to know that level of poverty when you don't, especially when you use that claim to claim that nobody in the US knows real poverty.

The only people who know real poverty on that side of the country are non-white people. They live in neighborhoods that are out of sight and out of mind, and they do so with little money. So no, a white person who grew up there doesn't know anything about real poverty. It's because of places like this that we have this racial bullshit, because over there... whites are privileged by and large, because the whites they have over there all chose to be there. No white person over there is legitimately stuck, not like they are over here.

[DS1980]

Originally Posted by baller16

It's even more insulting when actually privileged white people play make believe about things or try to make it about race, something that turns working class people of all races against each other when in reality they should be fighting the very privileged white people who keep fucking them.

How do I know they're full of shit? Because I live among them and grew up with them. I know everything about them. I can spot one of them with ease based on many different things, no matter how much they pretend.

Am I full of shit about myself? Yeah, maybe, but that's not what this is about. Even despite not growing up where I claimed, everything I've said in this thread about my suburban ass upbringing being much less than what these spoiled people know was true. Everything I said about that way of life being threatened by something much worse is true. We don't border the Northeast like proof2006's county does. We're not that lucky. Our standards over here for what is spoiled or suburban are much lower than they are in nicer places around the country, in the typical US suburb, so yeah, based on these standards around my way, I probably do fit into that category. Based on universal standards though? Hell fucking no.

Either way, like I said, it's not about me. It's about not letting them spew their lies or brainwash anybody with their bullshit anymore because it isn't harmless. It's ruining my country. It ruined the world. It's a major problem that needs to be dealt with in order to fix any of the many problems we have around the world. White people is such an easy cop-out, just like the "human race" is when it comes to harming our environment. The fact is that it has always been a select group of people who just so happen to have the same skin color as some of the people they did what they did to, and a different skin color than many of the other people who they did what they did to. There's a reason they always want to make it about race, so they can hide from the truth.

Baller. What is it that the privileged people do to fucker over the poor people ?

[baller16]

As I've said many times, this shit isn't harmless anymore. Privileged white people are using it to brainwash those who aren't and to push legislation in the US that will make them even more privileged. Instead of fighting that legislation or that bullshit as a whole, white people of the working class are turning against those who are actually like them, all because they have the same skin color as the privileged white people who are fucking them.

Europeans hide behind their white skin so that they never have to take the blame for what they did to the world. That leads to every single extremist group attacking everybody west of their country or region as if we're all responsible for what was pretty much entirely the doing or well-off Europeans. It allows them to blame the US constantly and make us their scapegoat.

It's the bullshit of privileged white Europeans that is the reason for the extremism and KKK in the US and elsewhere. It's no big secret. It's also what leads to the Catholic Church and every other religion being made out to be evil as hell because of what Europeans used religion to do.

It's what causes young, hungry black kids to attack people just because of their white skin, even if they come from the same situation as they do. It's what causes people to believe liars like Diddy when he talks about "Black Power" while he sells out his own race and the people of his community to as many suburbanite white people as possible, just so that he can make money. It's what allows people to corrupt hip hop culture and sell it to as many privileged white kids as possible, and frauds like Drake, Lil Wayne, and others to act like stereotypes or to dance for those privileged white kids all so that they can make as much money as possible, not caring that they're selling out not just their race or their people but an experience that people of all races go through.

It's what leads actually privileged white people who move to neighborhoods built by poor Irish, Italian, etc Americans to erase the history of those people and act like they were just as privileged as the people moving into those neighborhoods, all because they're "white". It's what allows those privileged white people to never have to look inside to the real reason they are the way they are towards people or the real reason that they see non-white people as these cuddly teddy bears that in their minds are of course all beneath them because that's what their entitled ass were allowed to believe, that their opportunities are because they were superior. It's what allows those same people to pretend to be working class while making the real working class out to be lazy, because "Hey! they have the same skin color as I do! Why aren't they doing something with their lives?"

Yet nobody wants to see it. No, of course not. Instead, let's make it all about race. Yeah, fuck everybody with white skin.

[N.E. Woman]

Originally Posted by DS1980

Baller. What is it that the privileged people do to fucker over the poor people ?

You just had to get him started again didn't you?

[baller16]

Suri, let's use the example of your Syrian boyfriend. You said he's treated differently. Why is that? It's got nothing to do with his skin color or what country he comes from. It's the bullshit and stereotypes about those things that are the reasons for it. Why do those stereotypes exist? Because privileged Europeans and their descendants use them in order to cover up the real reasons why countries like Syria are the way they are, which keeps people of all races from being able to understand their plight or to understand them as human beings and to understand the situation at all. Thus people just do whatever's easiest and believe the bullshit and stereotypes and all of the propaganda. On the other side, certain people in the Middle East do what's easiest and believe the bullshit and stereotypes that it's every country in the "West" that's responsible for their plight, which leads to even more misunderstandings when they attack what they think is their enemy.

Any historian knows what privileged Europeans did to the Middle East, to Africa, to Indonesia, to every single country and continent around the world that they could do it to. Yet it's never talked about and it's never a part of the conversation of why the world is the way it is today. Instead, we all let them control the conversation by just swimming in and repeating their bullshit. Europeans won't even admit the real reason Ireland is as financially shitty as it is! How much money did England make off of that country until they "gave them independence" or until it was no longer deemed acceptable? Have they seen any of that money back? Of course not. How much money did Europeans make off of countries all around the world? Have those countries seen that money back? Of course not. Europeans have no right whatsoever to ever complain about "illegal immigrants" because they're the reason those countries are so fucked up in the first place! Do you think it's a coincidence that Europe has some of the most openly racist people anywhere in the world? Of course not. Europeans should be the ones paying the vast majority of aid to every single country they fucked up, yet the US pays the most aid out of any country and gets called "world police" by the very people who fucked the world up in the first place!

Immigrants come to the US and Canada, despite how far they are in comparison to Europe, because they know it can be different over here. We didn't fuck their countries up, and any places the US did affect negatively were already fucked up by Europeans. They know that at some point, they can have just as much opportunity and equality as somebody with white skin. The fact is, that if they go to the right areas, that eventually happens. Racism only lasts in places where white people are legitimately privileged because of their skin and where they dominate everything. Yes, that is how it is in the majority of Europe, Canada, and even the majority of the US, but there are pockets in the US and maybe even in Canada where that either isn't the case now or won't be the case in the future. It's these places that people should learn from and pay attention to, places where diversity isn't easy and people of all races are stuck and can't afford to move out. That's where real diversity eventually takes hold, just like it did for hundreds of years.

I'm about to blow this all wide open: Do you think it's a coincidence that so many privileged white guys are all about trying to dominate girls and women of different races than their own? That there's so many sites full of white dudes "hood bangin'" (their words) "pimpin' hoes" (their words) "dominating" black, Latina, middle eastern, etc etc girls and women? That this leads to them looking for characteristics of those types of girls and women in girls of their own race? Of course not. It all comes from the same exact place. There's a reason why so many privileged white people feel so entitled to every single culture and to get with every single race of person and make it about race and about that person being "inferior" to their privileged white self.

Wouldn't it be so great it we as a world could come together and get the truth out there and get rid of all of the bullshit? Well that's entirely possible, but it's only possible once we've shut up and exposed those who continue to bullshit all of us. Until then, we'll continue to have bullshit "discussions" like this about how everybody with white skin is so privileged and make things about race instead of digging deeper and seeing the real reasons and having some real conversations about things that lead to real solutions.

It's always been about class. It was only made about race because Europeans went into countries with people of different ethnic heritages and different skin colors and forced their society and their bullshit on those countries and on the rest of the world. What people tend to forget though is that everything Europeans directed at Africans and everybody else with different skin, they directed at fellow "white" people in Ireland and Scotland and elsewhere. It's never had anything to do with skin color nor has it ever been limited to those of different skin colors. It's only lasted as long as it has for those with different skin color because that bullshit hasn't gone away or been gotten into and exposed, and it's only when we start talking about these things that the racial bullshit will go away.

Until then, we'll just continue to have all of this bullshit swimming around in the world.

Originally Posted by DS1980

Baller. What is it that the privileged people do to fucker over the poor people ?

I'm not going to even justify this bullshit "question" with an answer.

[N.E. Woman]

1. What about the Native American's?

2. More porn has "other than white" men screwing white women.

3. Will you ever concede to disagree on this?

[baller16]

Originally Posted by N.E. Woman

1. What about the Native American's?

2. More porn has "other than white" men screwing white women.

3. Will you ever concede to disagree on this?

1. Europeans and their privileged descendants, and anybody who tells you otherwise is a fucking liar.

2. Because white women don't want to dominate men of other races that way for the most part. Instead, they want to be dominated by them but still use them for sex. They always have. It's not even about race either. The majority of white "men" are built like average pussies. Of course white women want to be fucked by men who are built like gods.

3. No, because there is no disagreeing with history and facts. It's this bullshit "disagreeing" that is the reason we can't ever get the truth out as a world. Your opinion, my opinion, anybody's opinion does not matter and never will. How anybody can make it about opinions when so many people suffer every day because of a select group of people who it has been historically proven caused these things is beyond me.

[richief]

You really are a fool, you really need to get out and live instead of spending so much time on the 'net living your "alternative" life, go on, go find some work,real work not flipping burgers.

I really do wish you would finish your journos course because then I can laugh like fuck as you try to get work in that dying trade, unless of course you think you can make a lot of money blogging.

Fool.

[CFH420]

Just when you think baller cannot be more pathetic, he surprises you in every aspect.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by CFH420

Just when you think baller cannot be more pathetic, he surprises you in every aspect.

Yeah but don't get all jealous and butt hurt. When it comes to pathetic he still can't out do you.

[smcaaphd]

Originally Posted by baller16

And who is responsible for their conditions? They didn't appear out of nowhere.

Why is their water dirty again? Why are they so poor? Why do they have such conflicts?

Haha!! I'm not going to answer -- if I was in the States, I'd plead the fifth, but I'm not so I won't

[smcaaphd]

Originally Posted by L+R

That is probably the best post in this whole thread - well done ewe

[CFH420]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Yeah but don't get all jealous and butt hurt. When it comes to pathetic he still can't out do you.

I'm not jealous of some loser who cannot beat me and basketball, and my butt definitely does not hurt, how does yours feel stumbly?

[Old Tool]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Besides you never told me what graduate school you were attending during this dire time of your life Old Tool.

Boy, those painkillers must interfere with reading comprehension as much as they get your emotions on broil Check post #155.

[michael saint]

[JoeDirty]

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by Old Tool

Boy, those painkillers must interfere with reading comprehension as much as they get your emotions on broil Check post #155.

I'm rather doubting you don't actually hold degrees Old Tool, but in that case what were you doing? I'd be really interested in knowing that.

But you're sure are blowing hard on the idea that this thread or anything in it brings my emotions to a broil. The real problem is I'm not really paying attention any more other than to try a put a burr under your saddle.

I just think its funny to see how many white people desperately want to change the subject because they have privileges in our society compared to most minorities, know that, but hate to have to admit it. That is, I suspect, what motivates you and others to split hairs over the definition of poverty and protest too much.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by michael saint

More somberly, Gen. Custer acknowledged that the plains Indians had a more satisfying way of life than that experienced by most whites.

[virginal vixen]

I just came back from this website called Stormfront.org, and I have to say that site have to be the most........hell words can't even describe my frustration with some white people, and I have take a step back sometimes over the internet and go "are you serious?"

[richief]

Originally Posted by virginal vixen

I just came back from this website called Stormfront.org, and I have to say that site have to be the most........hell words can't even describe my frustration with some white people, and I have take a step back sometimes over the internet and go "are you serious?"

Did you see the wonderful Distantlover over there? It is one of his playgrounds, or so he tells us.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by virginal vixen

I just came back from this website called Stormfront.org, and I have to say that site have to be the most........hell words can't even describe my frustration with some white people, and I have take a step back sometimes over the internet and go "are you serious?"

VV we have one of those scumbag white people here..isn't that right doggo.

[richief]

Now you gone done it, we are now going to get a lecture on how he got banned for defending the jews and saying that unky Adolf admired them. Such a pity that we can see through his camouflage and know what the real puppy dog is all about, bigotry, hebephilism and a weird compulsion to build shrines for "girls" he meets online.

[susi_squeeze]

Another idiot complaining only about white people

[Distant Lover]

The atmosphere at Stormfront is surprisingly civil. Obscene words and flaming are prohibited, as they would be on an internet forum I owned. Posters were told to submit comments as though their mothers would read them on the first page of The New York Times.

Many of the posters are articulate and well informed.

Unfortunately, one could obey the rules of Stormfront as I did, and be banned, as I was.

I think my first offense was to quote Charles Murray. Someone started a thread about him. Those who commented in the thread thought that Charles Murray was the greatest thing since sliced bread - non kosher sliced bread. (I only eat kosher bread.)

I said that I agreed with Charles Murray, and quoted several passages from his essay, "Jewish Genius," where he tried to explain the superior IQs of the Ashkenazic Jews.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/ar...jewish-genius/

That passed without incident.

I was emboldened to point out that one of Adolf Hitler's accusations in Mein Kampf against the Jews was factually incorrect. He said that German Jews shirked military duty during World War I. I quoted his statement from my copy of Mein Kampf, plus a footnote to it that pointed out that German Jews served in proportion to their numbers. I added that at the beginning of World War I Jews who lived in none of the belligerent countries usually supported Germany against Russia, because of Czarist pogroms. I concluded by pointing out that Ann Frank's father had been a German lieutenant on the Western Front.

Several hours later I was temporarily suspended, and told that they would think about what to do with me. Several days later I was permanently banned.

Occasionally I lurk on Stormfront as a guest. I am a Christian Zionist. Hostility toward Jews makes me almost physically sick, but anti Semitic arguments are easy to counter with facts and logical reasoning.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

blah blah blah.......

Several hours later I was temporarily suspended, and told that they would think about what to do with me. Several days later I was permanently banned.

Occasionally I lurk on Stormfront as a guest. I am a Christian Zionist. Hostility toward Jews makes me almost physically sick, but anti Semitic arguments are easy to counter with facts and logical reasoning.

What a fuckin' hypocrite you are doggo, you bleat that you feel physically sick when someone is hostile towards Jews, but in the next breath you boast and feel proud that you still lurk on that scumbag site.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

What a fuckin' hypocrite you are doggo, you bleat that you feel physically sick when someone is hostile towards Jews, but in the next breath you boast and feel proud that you still lurk on that scumbag site.

I enjoy investigating and debating different points of view. I wish I was back on Stormfront so that I could refute arguments against Jews.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

I enjoy investigating and debating different points of view. I wish I was back on Stormfront so that I could refute arguments against Jews.

Then you're more than welcome to fuck off from XN and go back to your "well informed" bigotted white trash mates.

[Daddys Slut]

This is going to end badly

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

Then you're more than welcome to fuck off from XN and go back to your "well informed" bigotted white trash mates.

Many of them are better educated and more intelligent than you are. They give me an intellectual challenge. You only irritate me.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Many of them are better educated and more intelligent than you are. They give me an intellectual challenge. You only irritate me.

In one breath you say that their opinions on all things Jewish makes you physically ill then you praise your mates on Stormfront for their intelligence, me thinks you should up the dosage on your meds.
All your earlier years on dope and booze has addled your brain.

If you rate someone's intelligence by how bigotted their arguement is then all praise to me and my "low intelligence".

I'd rather be known as an irritation then being a hypocrite like you.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

In one breath you say that their opinions on all things Jewish makes you physically ill then you praise your mates on Stormfront for their intelligence, me thinks you should up the dosage on your meds.
All your earlier years on dope and booze has addled your brain.

If you rate someone's intelligence by how bigotted their arguement is then all praise to me and my "low intelligence".

I'd rather be known as an irritation then being a hypocrite like you.

A person can have attitudes that sicken me while having an intellect that impresses me. Adolf Hitler was like that. He did have insights into crowd psychology. That is why I have found Mein Kampf to be worth reading.

On the other hand, I see no value in Ayn Rand. She presents no interesting insights, just value assumptions presented as though they are the absolute truth.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

On the other hand, I see no value in Ayn Rand. She presents no interesting insights, just value assumptions presented as though they are the absolute truth.

Am wondering if you're related to Ayn Rand...As you just described yourself to a tee.

[elzacapa47]

In the manufacturing area, latinos or asian do the hard work.
"whites" never work as hard as they do.
Plus africanamerican, r the same as "whites" they dont work as hard as hispanic do.

[Asian Love]

Originally Posted by elzacapa47

In the manufacturing area, latinos or asian do the hard work.
"whites" never work as hard as they do.
Plus africanamerican, r the same as "whites" they dont work as hard as hispanic do.

lol Those are pretty broad statements you're throwing around.

[xnxxbob]

Originally Posted by elzacapa47

In the manufacturing area, latinos or asian do the hard work.
"whites" never work as hard as they do.
Plus africanamerican, r the same as "whites" they dont work as hard as hispanic do.

Actually you're wrong.........American Indians are the laziest workers.

[RandyKnight]

Originally Posted by elzacapa47

In the manufacturing area, latinos or asian do the hard work.
"whites" never work as hard as they do.
Plus africanamerican, r the same as "whites" they dont work as hard as hispanic do.

Originally Posted by Asian Love

lol Those are pretty broad statements you're throwing around.

Originally Posted by xnxxbob

Actually you're wrong.........American Indians are the laziest workers.

Originally Posted by sakwengxmy

Dr. Anthony Bradley, author of the new book Black and Tired: Essays on Race, Politics, Culture, and International Development, spoke at the Heritage Foundation about his research on the downward moral trend of black culture in America.

As an associate professor of theology at King’s College in New York, Dr. Bradley demonstrated his thorough knowledge and experience throughout the book event. He referred to American exceptionalism with a personal anecdote, of how his relatives own the plantation where their ancestors were enslaved. He pointed out that “there are not many other countries around the world where subdominant cultures rise to that level, that status” of equality from the depths of slavery.

Originally Posted by sakwengxmy

Dr. Bradley saw that the principles that made America great are now “being sabotaged and eroded by those who have good intentions, but often do not think through the consequences of [their decisions],” where the “black underclass” has been the most affected culture by these decisions. He said that by “concentrating power in the hands of a few people leads to more oppression, not less,” and that this has been the story of the “black experience in America.” He regretfully acknowledged that the civil rights movement of Dr. Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, and others has been “hijacked by the organizational narcissism that we find among politicians…operating under the delusion that [they have the] expertise and capacity to solve society’s problems.” Also, he explained that the basis of the civil rights movement was a search for human dignity for the black community, and today it is about “zero sum economics” and “as if life were a race, or a competition.”

Just give me some time...