Supporters of ban on pedophile stories

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Eric the Red

Then there's the role play aspect that no one even wants to address when arguing against these type of stories.
Back in the day I used to get two or three PMs a week from new women asking me to be their "daddy".
That's how I knew I'd written it right, those women got it, and since those were the women I was interested in that worked out great.
Until you write this kind of stuff you have no idea how many women have a little girl inside that just wants to be told the daddy loves her....

So 100% of the readers of the pedo sex stories are women who just want to get their "little girl" out. Riiiiiiiight. roflmao.gif

Child molesters, and that's who we should all be worried about, they don't need my stories to be attracted to children, and I tend to doubt that they spend their time on xnxx talking to other adults about under age sex stories.
They're on the Disney site, or where ever else children congregate because they are into real children.

You really believe the bullshit that you've just spewed, don't you?

You don't think that pedos might like to read stories too? Just like with every other fetish? (Pedophilia is a fetish. A sick, demented, and fucked up fetish.)

Contrary to conventional wisdom most pedos CAN control themselves and not molest a kid. Just like most heterosexuals can control themselves and not rape a women. Just like I'm into hawt shemales and will most likely NEVER actually fuck one.

Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer

...[T]rue pedophiles simply can't stop themselves.

That's why lifelong incarceration for them is such a good option....

Again...that's bullshit.

One can be a "true pedo" (i.e., be sexually attracted to little kids) without ever actually molesting one. The ones who "can't stop themselves"---whether pedos or heterosexuals or homosexuals---are those who let their sexual lusts control and override their will-power to resist and commit criminal acts of rape.

[JoeDirty]

One mo' thing....

People keep bringing up attitudes of 100 years ago and how Muslims are pedos who'll marry 9 year olds....

100 years ago they had children being worked to death like slaves in sweatshops. Want to bring that back? Slavery was legal. Are we to bring that back as well?

Let's go further back.... Nero liked to diddle little boys. Shall we give Sandusky a medal because of it?

The Muslim countries are barbaric countries still living in the 600's. The people there will just as soon kill you as look at you.

We are supposed to be an enlightened, civilized society.

So enough of the "that's not how they did in the good ol' days" bullshit.

[darthel0101]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

You don't think that pedos might like to read stories too? Just like with every other fetish? (Pedophilia is a fetish. A sick, demented, and fucked up fetish.)

Contrary to conventional wisdom most pedos CAN control themselves and not molest a kid.

Contrary to YOUR opinion, pedos keep to their own kind where they can swap their TRUE tales and their victims. Their clubs are as hard to get accepted into as a terrorist cell. I know this from one of their victims.

Just like most heterosexuals can control themselves and not rape a women.

You really are clueless enough to not realise that rape is not a sex crime but a crime of power and violence which just happens to use sex, domination, and humiliation as a tool - NOTE - no dick is required.

Just like I'm into hawt shemales and will most likely NEVER actually fuck one.

Just what gets you off thinking about shemales? Imagining their cock in your ass or mouth, or are you wishing that you had a cunt that they could stuff it into instead? It can't be the tits because those are fake and your sig makes it clear that you hate fake tits.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by darthel0101

Contrary to YOUR opinion, pedos keep to their own kind where they can swap their TRUE tales and their victims. Their clubs are as hard to get accepted into as a terrorist cell. I know this from one of their victims.

You really are clueless enough to not realise that rape is not a sex crime but a crime of power and violence which just happens to use sex, domination, and humiliation as a tool - NOTE - no dick is required.

Yet more bullshit. Where did you learn this? From some cops show on TV?

I heard that rape crap at college from some liberal bitch lady cop during a required assembly dealing with campus rape....

She first said that "ALL MEN are POTENTIAL RAPISTS."

Then she spewed forth the nonsense about rape never being about sex but solely about power.

Nothing but liberal, man-hating feminist crap!

Me and my buddies stood up and told that dumbass....

1. All men are NOT potential rapists, you man-hating shrew!

2. Rape is about sex AND power! ("I want sex and I'll take it by force.")

[JoeDirty]

One mo' thing, Darthel....

'Splain to me how it was that in Greek and Roman times man/boy "love" (aka pedophilia) was not only accepted but also the norm among the higher classes.

Were more of them "born that way" back then?

Pedos aren't born. That's bullshit. They're made.

One of the ways that they're made is via pedo porn...including pedo sex stories.

[darthel0101]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Yet more bullshit. Where did you learn this? From some cops show on TV?

just another example of your selective reading - I know this from one of the VICTIMS of a child rapist.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Me and my buddies stood up and told that dumbass....

1. All men are NOT potential rapists, you man-hating shrew!
2. Rape is about sex AND power! ("I want sex and I'll take it by force.")

"Pot, meet Kettle; Kettle, meet Pot"
I will, however, agree with the first part of your statement to that feminist. Unfortunately, your attitude does not allow to be excluded from the potential rapist category. BTW - why did you ignore the inclusion of domination and humiliation from your description? Do you see power as automatically including those aspects as well? Do you realize why rape is commonly used by the unethical as a tool of warfare?

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

One of the ways that they're made is via pedo porn...including pedo sex stories.

Were did you learn that - behind the wood shed?
You still haven't caught on yet. Pedophilia is a sexual deviancy; it is not a deviant ACT; the act is statutory rape.
Pedophiles get turned on by sex with minors INSTEAD OF sex with their contemporaries; it does not matter if they ACT on that excitement because they are still pedophiles. Homosexuals get turned on by sex with their own gender INSTEAD OF sex with the opposite gender; it does not matter if they ACT on that inclination because they are still homosexuals. You get turned on by thinking of sex with a she-male or of sex with one who looks underage; it does not matter if you ACT on that attraction because you still get turned on by guys with fake tits and underage girls.

[Prurient Purveyer]

If you are going to come up with shit like:

One can be a "true pedo" (i.e., be sexually attracted to little kids) without ever actually molesting one. The ones who "can't stop themselves"---whether pedos or heterosexuals or homosexuals---are those who let their sexual lusts control and override their will-power to resist and commit criminal acts of rape.

Then there is absolutely no point in trying to have a rational discussion with you- moron.

Read up on pedophiles and you will see that I am right not that you can admit you pitiful sad loser.

[JoeDirty]

FUCK YOU ALL!!!

YOU'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR JERKING OFF TO PEDO SEX STORIES!!!

WE ALL KNOW DAMN WELL THAT YOU'RE LUSTING AFTER KIDS WHEN YOU DO THAT SHIT!!!

WE ALL KNOW DAMN WELL THAT YOU'RE SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO KIDS WHEN YOU DO THAT SHIT!!!

OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T BE READING AND JERKING OFF TO THAT SHIT!!!

(AND YES MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK!!! THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO EXPRESS MY DISGUST AT YOU SICK FUCK CREEPS WHO ARE SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO KIDS!!!)

[JoeDirty]

Let me calmly add something....

What I wrote above only applies to the avid readers and jerkers to pedo sex stories.

Not to the morons who defend the stories and avid readers....

[LittleC333]

i hope there are some police officers in this forum undercover, to spie on the pedofiles and eventually arrest them!

they just have to disguise theselves as hot women, easy lol!

[pin-upScripture]

Here's my thing with the pedo stories...It's not like child porn which actually uses and hurts children. They're just stories....sick and disgusting stories. However, I'd rather have the sick people read pedo stories then to actually go out and molest children. On the other hand, reading pedo stories might escalate their desires and lead them to actually go out and find a child.

It's a very difficult issue...
I suppose ideally we just shouldn't allow any of it and really encourage these people to seek therapy and help. Pedophiles have been 'cured before, believe it or not...through intense psychotherapy.

[Limloom]

Phoedophiles are sick fucks, monsters, that should be sterilzed or lobotomized.

[splattie]

Does pedophile also include jailbaits?

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by splattie

Does pedophile also include jailbaits?

In illegal acts... Yes.

In my wet dreams... No.

[scotsmitch2001]

Originally Posted by Limloom

Phoedophiles are sick fucks, monsters, that should be sterilzed or lobotomized.

Don't beat around the bush, tell us what you really think.

[Daddycums]

Originally Posted by splattie

Does pedophile also include jailbaits?

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

In illegal acts... Yes.

In my wet dreams... No.

You realize, of course, that most of the so-called "pedo" stories that we're defending would actually be more appropriately classified as "jailbait" stories. So you admit you fantasize about jailbait. Well, guess what? These stories are just jailbait fantasies.

So it turns out that you're on our side after all. I never knew!

[clarise]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Let me calmly add something....

What I wrote above only applies to the avid readers and jerkers to pedo sex stories.

Not to the morons who defend the stories and avid readers....

Hello, my friend. Still tilting at windmills, I see.

My favorite jailbait story: Anne of Green Gables. (Gilbert! Yummy!) Says Anne: Every day is new and fresh with no mistakes.

[Hornycountryboy]

Originally Posted by clarise

Hello, my friend. Still tilting at windmills, I see.

My favorite jailbait story: Anne of Green Gables. (Gilbert! Yummy!) Says Anne: Every day is new and fresh with no mistakes.

Anne of Green Gables! Now that brings back memories!

[JoeDirty]

Comparing the crap written here at XNXX to a classic work of literature like Anne of Green Gables...PRICELESS! roflmao.gif

Originally Posted by Daddycums

You realize, of course, that most of the so-called "pedo" stories that we're defending would actually be more appropriately classified as "jailbait" stories. So you admit you fantasize about jailbait. Well, guess what? These stories are just jailbait fantasies.

So it turns out that you're on our side after all. I never knew!

You realize, of course, that I had in mind stories about grown men with 9 year old girls.

To even fantasize about doing that shit is sick fuckery.

[Daddycums]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

You realize, of course, that I had in mind stories about grown men with 9 year old girls.

Maybe so, but you use words like "Underage" and "Pedo" interchangeably.

For example:

An Apology To Those Who Defend And Read Underage Stories

I've accused those who defend such stories of defending pedos and those who masturbate to such stories as being pedos.

(emphasis mine)

You then go on to give a sarcastic apology that makes it clear exactly what you think of those people.

So which one is it? Does underage=pedo, in which case you're a sick fuck just like the rest of us, or do you owe a real apology to about 60-70% of the people you've insulted (the 60-70% who read and/or write jailbait stories but not pedo stories)?

Think about it before you give your answer, because I will hold you to it in the future.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Daddycums

Maybe so, but you use words like "Underage" and "Pedo" interchangeably.

For example:



(emphasis mine)

You then go on to give a sarcastic apology that makes it clear exactly what you think of those people.

So which one is it? Does underage=pedo, in which case you're a sick fuck just like the rest of us, or do you owe a real apology to about 60-70% of the people you've insulted (the 60-70% who read and/or write jailbait stories but not pedo stories)?

Think about it before you give your answer, because I will hold you to it in the future.

It's according to context.

If you were talking to a shrink it would mean one thing. If you were talking to a cop or a person out on the street it would mean another.

Also, it's according to how underage. If we're talking 16 or 17 that's one thing. If we're talking 12 or 13 then it's another. (BTW Ejls agrees with me on this. According to a post she wrote a while back a story involving a grown man and a 13 year old girl [or 14 year old...can't remember which she said exactly] is "pedo.")

So being a hebe/ephebo is normal for males who happen to have dicks (though they know not to mess with them)...and pedo (lusting after 9 year old girls) is abnormal and sick fuckery.

[wantsomefun]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

It's according to context.

If you were talking to a shrink it would mean one thing. If you were talking to a cop or a person out on the street it would mean another.

Also, it's according to how underage. If we're talking 16 or 17 that's one thing. If we're talking 12 or 13 then it's another. (BTW Ejls agrees with me on this. According to a post she wrote a while back a story involving a grown man and a 13 year old girl [or 14 year old...can't remember which she said exactly] is "pedo.")

So being a hebe/ephebo is normal for males who happen to have dicks (though they know not to mess with them)...and pedo (lusting after 9 year old girls) is abnormal and sick fuckery.

So, wait. Let me get this straight. You're acknowledging that some girls in their mid-to-late teens (still under eighteen) are attractive for more than just their bubbly personalities? Yes, obviously, it's look, don't touch, but if a high school sophomore walks by on the beach in a bikini her father wouldn't approve of, you won't avert your eyes?

That's all that people like your friend ELP are really saying in their stories. Cute girls are, well, cute girls. Some of them aren't virgins, and someone made them that way. Writers of coming-of-age stories or old/young tales talk about that stuff.

The reader's perception of chronological age is extremely important. Pre-pubescent is deviant. No argument. Mid-teens is forbidden here, which is fine, for the most part, the possible exception being the loss of some tender/hot coming-of-age stories. Hell, I was so in love with the girl who taught me about sex when I was fifteen and she was sixteen that I married her seven years later. I wouldn't mind sharing that experience, but I can't.

Let's face it. Some sixteen- and seventeen-year old girls are far more mature than their twenty-year old boyfriends. Some of them understand full well the possible consequences of involvement, however superficial, with an older man. They've learned it by example from their mothers.

Is it "wrong" for someone to lust after a person of a different generation?

As you said, Joe, it's a matter of context. The vast majority of us would instantly agree that a twenty-five year old has no business playing doctor with a five year old. A lot of people still find it wrong when the ages are thirty-five and fifteen. But what about forty-five and twenty-five? Forty and sixty?

The other part of context is tone. Are the actions consensual, coerced, or forced? Do both partners enjoy themselves? Is anyone caused pain or injury, physical or emotional? Does the story end on a positive note for the main characters?

I've written some coercion/rape stories, dark shit. In mine, the perpetrator somehow suffers in the end -- they're morality plays, kinda. One of the stories involved the physical, emotional, and sexual abuse of a girl by her father, detailing incidents from the ages of twelve and fifteen, and culminating with his forcible taking of her virginity on her eighteenth birthday. His wife wakes up and literally shoots him out of the saddle.

From the synopsis above, is that a pedo story? I don't think so. Yes, it involved inappropriate and abusive touching of a pre-teen. The father could have been busted for indecent exposure and corrupting the morals of a minor in addition to the abuse and touching at fifteen, and the story came to a head with rape, murder, and suicide when the girl was eighteen.

Should "My Confession" (http://stories.xnxx.com/story/32393/My_Confession or http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=217354) be removed?

Should I?

I'd really like your opinion on that one. Honestly.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by wantsomefun

So, wait. Let me get this straight. You're acknowledging that some girls in their mid-to-late teens (still under eighteen) are attractive for more than just their bubbly personalities? Yes, obviously, it's look, don't touch, but if a high school sophomore walks by on the beach in a bikini her father wouldn't approve of, you won't avert your eyes?

I'll answer with two words....

Traci. Lords.



Next to Ginger Lynn she was IMO the greatest porn star of the 80s. When the shit hit the fan regarding her in 1986 it didn't bother me all that much that I had viewed her prior movies. Countless times.

I'll respond to the rest of your post when I have more time.

[Eric the Red]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

So 100% of the readers of the pedo sex stories are women who just want to get their "little girl" out. Riiiiiiiight. Attachment 1870187

Why would it have to be 100% to be a valid point?
If a story has 40,000 reads then 1% would be enough women to keep be plenty busy.
Look, you said, "There's NO WAY that any person can seek after and jerk off to such stories and not have a sexual attraction to little kids.", and I'm saying that there is at least one way that I know of.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

You really believe the bullshit that you've just spewed, don't you?

You don't think that pedos might like to read stories too? Just like with every other fetish? (Pedophilia is a fetish. A sick, demented, and fucked up fetish.)

Once again, I don't see why the idea of them reading stories bothers you so much

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Contrary to conventional wisdom most pedos CAN control themselves and not molest a kid.

So then why does it matter if they read stories?

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Just like most heterosexuals can control themselves and not rape a women.

Rape is more about power than sex.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Just like I'm into hawt shemales and will most likely NEVER actually fuck one.

I don't see why not.
If said tranny is of age, and they like you, why not?

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

One can be a "true pedo" (i.e., be sexually attracted to little kids) without ever actually molesting one. The ones who "can't stop themselves"---whether pedos or heterosexuals or homosexuals---are those who let their sexual lusts control and override their will-power to resist and commit criminal acts of rape.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

I agree with this actually, and that's why I don't see the harm in some stories.

[scotsmitch2001]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

It's according to context.

If you were talking to a shrink it would mean one thing. If you were talking to a cop or a person out on the street it would mean another.

Also, it's according to how underage. If we're talking 16 or 17 that's one thing. If we're talking 12 or 13 then it's another. (BTW Ejls agrees with me on this. According to a post she wrote a while back a story involving a grown man and a 13 year old girl [or 14 year old...can't remember which she said exactly] is "pedo.")

So being a hebe/ephebo is normal for males who happen to have dicks (though they know not to mess with them)...and pedo (lusting after 9 year old girls) is abnormal and sick fuckery.

THIS is what confuses me. To me, it is black or white.
The law states a certain age. You cannot then decide which is suitable for your purposes. I have always been a supporter of underage stories for that very reason..I say 16 is ok, then someone says what about a girl who is 15 and 275 days..um, ok I can bend my rule to that age, and then the age drops by a day, ok....and so it continues.
If you allow underage, you cannot then place yourself on a moral high ground when somebody else comes along who happens to be turned on by a year under what turns you on
Or am I wrong?

[clarise]

Originally Posted by scotsmitch2001

THIS is what confuses me. To me, it is black or white.
The law states a certain age. You cannot then decide which is suitable for your purposes. I have always been a supporter of underage stories for that very reason..I say 16 is ok, then someone says what about a girl who is 15 and 275 days..um, ok I can bend my rule to that age, and then the age drops by a day, ok....and so it continues.
If you allow underage, you cannot then place yourself on a moral high ground when somebody else comes along who happens to be turned on by a year under what turns you on
Or am I wrong?

+1

This eye of the beholder crap is what causes most of the fights. And look. Another pedo thread with going on 20 posts. Good. People were starting to write again around here. Gotta nip that in the bud.

[~ Master D]

I am no fan of pedo stories but would a ban on pedo stories also catch stories about two consenting minors?

I think it was Louisiana where two kids both got convicted of raping each other for the same passionate romp. It was absurd. I would hate to have some stupid rule against people posting their own stories about times when they were "underage" or fantasies about 17 year old cheerleaders.

It's mostly fantasy and we are basically talking about censorship. Distasteful stuff.

[crackedjaguar@hotmail.com]

Hey Joe... now that I have an idea where your proclivities lie...
Read "Raptor" by Gary Jennings...
Link to amazon to help you >==============<
Its a good book and I highly recommend it...
Get back to the rest of the world once you have read it.

[JoeDirty]

I won't be addressing this matter any further.

You know where I stand on the pedo stories and what I think of those who defend them and/or beat off to them.

[sockaraus]

I think its all part of the great conspiracy to control what is happening online.
The threat of the bogeyman, the Pedo is being used as an excuse to bring the internet into line.
What had started as a way to bring information to the masses has been slowly closed off.
I mean, for fuck sake, this is a sex forum, so what if pedo,s come here (although why would they, there are no kids) Who are they actually harming?
Please, don't reply with maybe or might or they could, fuckin bullshit.
It's all bullshit.
And NO I am not a pedo, but I also don't cry crocodile tears for some kid that gets their arse fucked by some sweaty arsed man. Not as if I know them. As if I am supposed to care more about them than any other evil out there.
Fuck empathy