Democratic Congress Was Productive

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

The facts are not opposite,,I just showed you the cherry picking that marketwatch,,(that is owned by CBS),,ANOTHER LEFTIST MEDIA OUTLET,,that is in the bag for Obama and his administration and all the misrepresentations from;
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...ned-2012-05-22

Always attacking the source. Never addressing what the source says. But one thing for sure it must be a conspiracy.

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

Where is the Obama ''I'LL CUT THE DEFICIT IN HALF'' bullshit at,,,Bush never made that promise,, as Obama did,,Obama's spending is not even a submitted and approved budget,,as it is required by law,,,,,,,,,so dont give me that song and dance bullshit.

"Oh I love to do the little side step .......... now you see me now you don't ............

Since when were we talking about his failed promise to cut the deficit in half?

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

OBAMA;,,''I'LL CUT THE DEFICIT IN HALF'',,
GULLIBLE VOTERS;.. O.K.

Yes I can,Yes I will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG75FJkjr8

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

I am a fiscally conservative republican,,and I will bitch about any politician that does not follow those principles, with their conversation and their voting records.

No you won't Ace. Now that just ain't true pardner.

You can't even see the other side of the argument and then have to claim you're actually something different than the politicians you support.

Hell you'll vote for Romney.

[ace's n 8's]

[QUOTE=stumbler;5193414]

Always attacking the source. Never addressing what the source says. But one thing for sure it must be a conspiracy.

I do attack the leftists sources,, they are very capable of inserting their opinions into the public eye...

QUOTE=stumbler;5193414]"Oh I love to do the little side step .......... now you see me now you don't ............

Since when were we talking about his failed promise to cut the deficit in half?

Who brought Bush into ''this'' conversation,,talk about sidestepping,,,you are the king of that horseshit. You started this thread ''Democratic Congress Was Productive''. Now we will talk about the leftists and their broken promises,and how well the people are liking what the leftist politicians have done with their ''productiveness''

QUOTE=stumbler;5193414]No you won't Ace. Now that just ain't true pardner.

Yes I will.

QUOTE=stumbler;5193414]You can't even see the other side of the argument and then have to claim you're actually something different than the politicians you support.

Hell you'll vote for Romney.

I dont support RINO's their just leftists in sheep's clothing

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

I do attack the leftists sources,, they are very capable of inserting their opinions into the public eye...

Yes that's true but you only attack the sources because you cannot refute the facts they present and the debunking of your right wing false propaganda.

Try attacking the facts sometime Ace and see how far you get.

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

Who brought Bush into ''this'' conversation,,talk about sidestepping,,,you are the king of that horseshit.

Bullshit Ace you're the one trying to blame the stuff Bush did on President Obama so you can continue your right wing false propaganda. You're just pissed because I exposed your bullshit again.

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

You started this thread ''Democratic Congress Was Productive''.

In 2007 Ace. That was more than four years ago.

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

Now we will talk about the leftists and their broken promises,and how well the people are liking what the leftist politicians have done with their ''productiveness''

Well right now at least the people are liking it more than the conservative/Republican/Tea Party.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...vote-2170.html

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

Yes I will.

I'll believe it when I see it Ace but I sure ain't seen it yet out of you.

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

I dont support RINO's their just leftists in sheep's clothing

And yet you will lie for them on a daily basis.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Nope I can't see that bullshit at all Ace. Let's try looking at the facts for a change.

Obama spending binge never happened

Commentary: Government outlays rising at slowest pace since 1950s




http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...ned-2012-05-22

Thursday, July 5, 2012



The stunning chart that shows the Obama spending binge really happened



UPDATE: I am not sure this chart accurately reflects the methodology of the MarketWatch piece, in particular the treatment of the 2009 Omnibus spending bill. In fact, it’s probably wrong. I apologize for that. But that does not change my fundamental point of disagreement which I outline here and here.

In a column on Tuesday, Rex Nutting of MarketWatch ran some budget numbers and concluded the following:

Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true. But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

And here is Nutting’s graph:

The shocking, contrarian piece was widely circulated in liberal circles and was even cited on Wednesday by White House spokesman Jay Carney.

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/05/the...ally-happened/

Figures don’t lie: Democrats do


Obama also spent the second half of the Troubled Asset Relief Fund (TARP). These were discretionary funds meant to prevent a market meltdown after Lehman Brothers collapsed. By the end of 2008, it was clear the panic had passed, and Bush announced that he wouldn’t need to spend the second half of the TARP money.
But on Jan. 12, 2009, Obama asked Bush to release the remaining TARP funds for Obama to spend as soon as he took office. By Oct. 1, Obama had spent another $200 billion in TARP money. That, too, gets credited to Bush, according to the creative accounting of Rex Nutting.
There are other spending bills that Obama signed in the first quarter of his presidency, bills that would be considered massive under any other president — such as the $40 billion child health care bill, which extended coverage to immigrants as well as millions of additional Americans. These, too, are called Bush’s spending
Frustrated that he can’t shift all of Obama’s spending to Bush, Nutting also lowballs the spending estimates during the later Obama years. For example, although he claims to be using the White House’s numbers, the White House’s estimate for 2012 spending is $3.795 trillion. Nutting helpfully knocks that down to $3.63 trillion.

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/05/2...-democrats-do/

[shootersa]

Originally Posted by stumbler

So I get it now. You are the invincible hero in your own little fantasy world, where they are all bad guys and you're the only good guy that gets all the girls. Well I guess this is the best place for that.

Thats it? thats all you got?

Siddown

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/05/the...ally-happened/

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/05/2...-democrats-do/

Biggest recession since the Great Depression Ace caused by the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers and the private sector that ripped off us off for more than $13 trillion dollars and devastated our investments in our houses.

I wouldn't be bragging about it if I was you.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by shootersa

Thats it? thats all you got?

Siddown

Make me shootersa you fantasy lad you.

Step on my neck to negotiate with me there Mr. Super tough.

If you can then I guess you're not walking talking greasy bullshit after all.

So go ahead and show me what a killer tough guy you really are.

[RandyKnight]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Make me shootersa you fantasy lad you.

Step on my neck to negotiate with me there Mr. Super tough.

If you can then I guess you're not walking talking greasy bullshit after all.

So go ahead and show me what a killer tough guy you really are.

Hey watch out...you are dealing with

X-Military
X-Cop
X-Union Member...with a pension hoping the 1% don't take it while he is voting for them.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by RandyKnight

Hey watch out...you are dealing with

X-Military
X-Cop
X-Union Member...with a pension hoping the 1% don't take it while he is voting for them.

Yeah I know. And what scares me is he must be over 100 by now to be all those things.

[RandyKnight]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Yeah I know. And what scares me is he must be over 100 by now to be all those things.

LOL I think he is getting close to the age he and his wife will retire and triple dip with social security and pensions and wonder why there is money there....

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by RandyKnight

LOL I think he is getting close to the age he and his wife will retire and triple dip with social security and pensions and wonder why there is money there....

And most happily continue to be a brainwashed fool.

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by stumbler

And most happily continue to be a brainwashed fool.

Yes you are a brainwashed fool stumbler..... But must you brag about it as well?

[Azurial]

[QUOTE=ace's n 8's;5193430]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Who brought Bush into ''this'' conversation,,talk about sidestepping,,,you are the king of that horseshit. You started this thread ''Democratic Congress Was Productive''. Now we will talk about the leftists and their broken promises,and how well the people are liking what the leftist politicians have done with their ''productiveness''

Just 2 things then I'm outta this one. How can you attack a Democratic President, claiming that he has done nothing but break promises when its the Republican Conrgress that has shot down everthing he has tried to do?

Secondly, George Washington himself warned that a two party system would rip this country apart and he was right. When Republicans and Democrats both stop thinking about their own pockets and the people they serve, I think things will improve drastically.

EDIT: Just for the record, when Clinton was in office and spending was up, look at how much better the economy was doing. Gotta spend money to make money, not horde it and hope a money tree pops outta the ground.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by Azurial

Just 2 things then I'm outta this one. How can you attack a Democratic President, claiming that he has done nothing but break promises when its the Republican Conrgress that has shot down everthing he has tried to do?

Secondly, George Washington himself warned that a two party system would rip this country apart and he was right. When Republicans and Democrats both stop thinking about their own pockets and the people they serve, I think things will improve drastically.

EDIT: Just for the record, when Clinton was in office and spending was up, look at how much better the economy was doing. Gotta spend money to make money, not horde it and hope a money tree pops outta the ground.

Great points and again for the record due to a glitch in Ace's posts it was his statement you quoted but wrongly attributed to me.

[RandyKnight]

[QUOTE=Azurial;5200423]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

Just 2 things then I'm outta this one. How can you attack a Democratic President, claiming that he has done nothing but break promises when its the Republican Conrgress that has shot down everthing he has tried to do?

Secondly, George Washington himself warned that a two party system would rip this country apart and he was right. When Republicans and Democrats both stop thinking about their own pockets and the people they serve, I think things will improve drastically.

EDIT: Just for the record, when Clinton was in office and spending was up, look at how much better the economy was doing. Gotta spend money to make money, not horde it and hope a money tree pops outta the ground.

Originally Posted by stumbler

Great points and again for the record due to a glitch in Ace's posts it was his statement you quoted but wrongly attributed to me.

LOL...if anything is going on Stumbler is over defending Obama...
but I see the mistake....

as afar as Clinton I spent a good amount time around him his family and staff when he was Gov of Ark and I would have never dreamed his Presidency would work out so well for this country.

In fact what we need is another President that fucks the interns and not the country...

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by RandyKnight

LOL...if anything is going on Stumbler is over defending Obama...
but I see the mistake....

as afar as Clinton I spent a good amount time around him his family and staff when he was Gov of Ark and I would have never dreamed his Presidency would work out so well for this country.

In fact what we need is another President that fucks the interns and not the country...

Clinton didn't try to demonize the business sector of this country, like Obama has done.

Nor did he try to turn Americans against each other, as Obama has.


TOP OHIO DONOR: 'It Wasn't Like This Under Clinton'



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Courtesy of wytv
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Democrats Are Getting Nervous About Obama's Money Problems



REPORT: Mitt Romney 'Obliterates' Campaign Fundraising Goals

As President Barack Obama rolls across Ohio and Pennsylvania on his two-day swing state bus tour, his campaign is struggling to spin today's disappointing jobs numbers, as well as reports that Mitt Romney raised more than $100 million in June, a staggering number that will likely trounce Obama's take for the second month in a row.
The GOP's fundraising totals confirm Democrats' fears that they are quickly losing the money race, shoring up the liberal narrative that Obama is facing an uphill battle to compete with deep-pocketed conservative special interests and "dark money" donations.
The reality, of course, is a little more complicated.
To find out more about where Obama stands with his potential donors, Business Insider spoke with fireworks magnate Bruce Zoldan, a prominent political fundraiser from Ohio's Mahoning Valley, where Obama campaigned Friday morning.
A major Clinton backer who has raised money for candidates from both parties, Zoldan was an early supporter of Obama in 2008, and even hosted the candidate for a fundraiser at his home in Canfield, Ohio — but he was noncommittal about whether he would be supporting the Democratic nominee this time around. He told Business Insider that he has been turned off by the Obama campaign's rhetoric on class war and income inequality, which he sees as unnecessarily divisive and antagonistic toward business owners.
"They talk too much about taxing the rich," said Zoldan, founder and CEO of the multimillion-dollar Phantom Fireworks empire. "Tax is not an issue with me — I pay my taxes and I'm happy to do it. But they are too focused on the idea that it is the rich people who are keeping down the poor."
"I'm not opposed to Democrats on this issue," he added. "What bothers me is to hear that he is making employees — my team members — feel that I am somehow being unfair to them, like I am the bad guy."
The attacks against Mitt Romney's wealth and record at Bain Capital fit into the message that "anybody in business who is successful has done something unfair to make them successful," he said. "I'm looking for more common ground."
Zoldan also said that he was surprised by the Obama campaign's lack of outreach to businessleaders in Ohio. He said was invited to attend Friday morning's event in Poland, Ohio, but was told it was unlikely he would get any one-on-one time with the President.
"That doesn't happen with this administration — I don't think he has reached out to the community in the way that he should," Zoldan said, adding that "it wasn't like this under Clinton."
"It wasn't this divisive, and I'm not sure that he [Obama] helps himself," Zoldan said. "The business community wasn't pro-Clinton, but it was never this hateful."
Obviously, Zoldan's comments represent just one perspective on the 2012 money race. But his view does highlight the underlying Catch-22 of Obama's central campaign message: While the attacks against Romney's money and businessrecord may work with rank-and-file voters, they may also make it harder for the President to convince potential donors that they wouldn't be acting against their own economic interests by contributing to his campaign.
Conversely, the more Obama is perceived as anti-business, the easier it may be for Romney to convince on-the-fence donors to come over to his side, or at least hold on to their money for this election.





Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ohio-...#ixzz2022PiV00

[RandyKnight]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

Clinton didn't try to demonize the business sector of this country, like Obama has done.

Nor did he try to turn Americans against each other, as Obama has.


TOP OHIO DONOR: 'It Wasn't Like This Under Clinton'




Courtesy of wytvSee Also








Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ohio-...#ixzz2022PiV00

If we in this country threw out the 8 year tenure rule...

Clinton would be voted in with a LANDSIDE VOTE

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by RandyKnight

If we in this country threw out the 8 year tenure rule...

Clinton would be voted in with a LANDSIDE VOTE

Yeah, I agree.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

Yeah, I agree.

Only because its fantasy just like you Natural Boy.

The reality is Clinton is not running and Obama continues to lead Romney you poor deluded brainwashed parrot.

[AZRIEL]

Originally Posted by shootersa

Thats it? thats all you got?

Siddown

Originally Posted by stumbler

Make me shootersa you fantasy lad you.

Step on my neck to negotiate with me there Mr. Super tough.

If you can then I guess you're not walking talking greasy bullshit after all.

So go ahead and show me what a killer tough guy you really are.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by AZRIEL

And what are you going to do about it azreil?? Send me another mean message on my page.

Really?? when was the last time you had a hardon granting the unproven fact you even have a penis?

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Only because its fantasy just like you Natural Boy.

The reality is Clinton is not running and Obama continues to lead Romney you poor deluded brainwashed parrot.

No, the reality is that you are really fucking stupid. We are doomed no matter which one of these morons gets elected.

But you are far too stupid to grasp reality . So just go on being a delusional brainless troll like always.

[Earthboundhero]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

No, the reality is that you are really fucking stupid. We are doomed no matter which one of these morons gets elected.

But you are far too stupid to grasp reality . So just go on being a delusional brainless troll like always.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by Earthboundhero

And he can kill himself if he wants just because he can't face an uncertain future.

Me I'm going to cum a few more times first. Well actually as man times as I can. In fact I wouldn't mind going by cumming.

But non-fuck that fear of being alive. I think its great.

[AZRIEL]

Originally Posted by stumbler

And what are you going to do about it AZRIEL??

[smcaaphd]

Originally Posted by stumbler

And what are you going to do about it azreil?? Send me another mean message on my page.

Really?? when was the last time you had a hardon granting the unproven fact you even have a penis?

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by AZRIEL

I would have but.......

Originally Posted by smcaaphd

........... saved by the sheep herder again.

See If you can get Eljs to start another thread.

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Me I'm going to cum a few more times first. Well actually as man times as I can. In fact I wouldn't mind going by cumming.

.

[shootersa]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Make me shootersa you fantasy lad you.

Step on my neck to negotiate with me there Mr. Super tough.

If you can then I guess you're not walking talking greasy bullshit after all.

So go ahead and show me what a killer tough guy you really are.

!!!Oh my.......so, you think you're a TERRORIST now, or someone I should be concerned about?
Too funny!

[shootersa]

Originally Posted by RandyKnight

Hey watch out...you are dealing with

X-Military
X-Cop
X-Union Member...with a pension hoping the 1% don't take it while he is voting for them.

One clarification; I have never been military. I am an X cop and I did belong to a union....... until I was downsized. Course, the union bosses made sure the "good" (Union ass kissers) members were not down sized.

And I ain't scared of the 1% taking my pension. I should be worried about the Union taking it............Oh, I get it........the Union IS part of the 1%.

Thank you for clarifying that. I feel much better now.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by shootersa

One clarification; I have never been military. I am an X cop and I did belong to a union....... until I was downsized. Course, the union bosses made sure the "good" (Union ass kissers) members were not down sized.

And I ain't scared of the 1% taking my pension. I should be worried about the Union taking it............Oh, I get it........the Union IS part of the 1%.

Thank you for clarifying that. I feel much better now.

Yeah, yeah, sure Old timer we believe you.

[RandyKnight]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Yeah, yeah, sure Old timer we believe you.

I don't know where your old ALEC thread is but I jsut read some stuff that says a lot more corporations are pulling out of it...

You might google for some facts you may like...

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by RandyKnight

I don't know where your old ALEC thread is but I jsut read some stuff that says a lot more corporations are pulling out of it...

You might google for some facts you may like...

I'll be happy to check that one out and update my thread.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Biggest recession since the Great Depression Ace caused by the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers and the private sector that ripped off us off for more than $13 trillion dollars and devastated our investments in our houses.

I wouldn't be bragging about it if I was you.

You continue running on the same ole' song and dance,,,why would I want to argue with you about it.

For you to continue believing that it was one party, among attempting to blame the ''tea party'', makes you a symbol of the propagandists, this train was heading for derailment long before the tea party members were even a glimmer in my eye, your democratic pillars of society are more to blame than anyone,,Chris Dodd/retired Barney Frank/retiring and Charles Shummer have as much blame as anyone you want to blame;

For many years the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties. President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted. Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
2001 April: The Administration's FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is "a potential problem," because "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity."
2002 May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)
2003 January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years. February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that "although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations," "the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them." As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. ("Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO," OFHEO Report, 2/4/03
September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO's review found earnings manipulations.
September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact "legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises" and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.
October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error
November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any "legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk." To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have "broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards" and "receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread396388/pg1

Franks Stopped Bush in 03 to regulate Fannie Mae 17 times!


From NY Times - September 11, 2003

The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.

”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ‘‘The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...es/blog-29077/

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by stumbler

I'll be happy to check that one out and update my thread.

After you get done re-writing the US Constitution?

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by Azurial

Just 2 things then I'm outta this one. How can you attack a Democratic President, claiming that he has done nothing but break promises when its the Republican Conrgress that has shot down everthing he has tried to do?

That's bullshit, the republican congress did nothing of the sort for Obama's first 2 years, and you can do a tit for tat with thinking,, left leftists majority in the Senate has tabled everything that the republican majority lead house has offered for the Senate to vote on

Originally Posted by Azurial

Secondly, George Washington himself warned that a two party system would rip this country apart and he was right. When Republicans and Democrats both stop thinking about their own pockets and the people they serve, I think things will improve drastically.

I think you are exactly right,, lets vote those senior congressman/women out of office and get some fresh blood in there, it's up to the people to have the government that the people want, make your vote count.

Originally Posted by Azurial

EDIT: Just for the record, when Clinton was in office and spending was up, look at how much better the economy was doing. Gotta spend money to make money, not horde it and hope a money tree pops outta the ground.

If you are insinuating that government spending is the answer,, you are a drone,, if you think that the private sector spending money is the answer, well,, you are right,, Clinton did not keep the private sector guessing about the uncertainty in the economy, like the current administration is doing, and doing well..

Clinton, the democrats and the republicans worked well together, compared to the fuck heads of today.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

After you get done re-writing the US Constitution?

It has been the acknowledged right of every Marxist scholar to read into Marx the particular meaning that he himself prefers and to treat all others with indignation.

- John Kenneth Galbraith



What John Kenneth Galbraith said of the writings of Karl Marx can also be said of the United States Constitution.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

You continue running on the same ole' song and dance,,,why would I want to argue with you about it.

For you to continue believing that it was one party, among attempting to blame the ''tea party'', makes you a symbol of the propagandists, this train was heading for derailment long before the tea party members were even a glimmer in my eye, your democratic pillars of society are more to blame than anyone,,Chris Dodd/retired Barney Frank/retiring and Charles Shummer have as much blame as anyone you want to blame;

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread396388/pg1

http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...es/blog-29077/

Some of them damn sure claim to be Tea Baggers now Ace so they carry the flag.

So don't try to tread that bullshit on me.

Its happening again right now you parrot.

[stumbler]

Jared Loughner, Accused Tucson Gunman, Expected To Plead Guilty If Found Mentally Competent

TUCSON, Ariz., Aug 7 (Reuters) - A 23-year-old college dropout accused of killing six people and wounding 13 others, including then-U.S. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, in a Tucson shooting rampage last year was expected to plead guilty on Tuesday if a judge finds him mentally competent, a person familiar with the case said.

A federal judge has set a competency hearing for Jared Loughner for 11 a.m. local time in U.S. District Court in Tucson, to be followed by a change-of-plea hearing if he is found fit to stand trial.

Giffords, an Arizona Democrat seen as a rising star in the party, was holding one of her regular "Congress On Your Corner" events at a Tucson supermarket in January 2011 when she was shot through the head at close range. The six people killed in the shooting include a federal judge and a 9-year-old girl.

A source close to the case has told Reuters that Loughner, who is charged with 49 criminal counts including first-degree murder, is prepared to change his plea to guilty. A not guilty plea was entered on his behalf last year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1750156.html

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Jared Loughner, Accused Tucson Gunman, Expected To Plead Guilty If Found Mentally Competent




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1750156.html

Pardon my error here. This is definitely not the thread I thought it was. I apologize for the error.

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Pardon my error here. This is definitely not the thread I thought it was. I apologize for the error.

Yep, your fuck-up-ness cup runneth over.....

it's an every day thing for you stumbler.....

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

Yep, your fuck-up-ness cup runneth over.....

it's an every day thing for you stumbler.....

Maybe so but tomorrow morning when the sun comes up I'm still going to be me and you're still going to be you and I couldn't be happier about that.

PS At least I admit my mistakes, correct them, and even apologize if necessary. Can't say that for you can we?

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Maybe so but tomorrow morning when the sun comes up I'm still going to be me and you're still going to be you and I couldn't be happier about that.

PS At least I admit my mistakes, correct them, and even apologize if necessary. Can't say that for you can we?

Horseshit,,you haven't admitted your mistakes or corrected your voting patterns.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

Horseshit,,you haven't admitted your mistakes or corrected your voting patterns.

Bullshit Ace. I did that more than 30 years ago when I actually sat down and read the Constitution Of The United States Of America. And you know what it was actually pretty easy reading really and the most beautiful and glorious document I'd ever read.

And then after I read it I looked around me and thought "hey wait a minute. Above all else if this document says one thing its things are going to be fair as far as humanely possible." But instead this fucking game is rigged. How did that happen? And that's when I saw the lie of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this nation.

Now you can preach your fundamentalist conservatism all you want. Hell, even Mitt Romney tries to do that. But I don't give a fuck what you preach that's not the way its practiced. Its practiced to rig the game for the rich and any fool that can't see that is a blind fool in my opinion at least.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Bullshit Ace. I did that more than 30 years ago when I actually sat down and read the Constitution Of The United States Of America. And you know what it was actually pretty easy reading really and the most beautiful and glorious document I'd ever read.

And then after I read it I looked around me and thought "hey wait a minute. Above all else if this document says one thing its things are going to be fair as far as humanely possible." But instead this fucking game is rigged. How did that happen? And that's when I saw the lie of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this nation.

Now you can preach your fundamentalist conservatism all you want. Hell, even Mitt Romney tries to do that. But I don't give a fuck what you preach that's not the way its practiced. Its practiced to rig the game for the rich and any fool that can't see that is a blind fool in my opinion at least.

My poor,, poor child.....Pull your blinders off your blind eyes, and take a look at those democrat politicians that you so cherish and worship, and tell me that they are not doing the same ''game rigging'' for themselves and their rich buddies. Go ahead,, I dare you,,because I will bring down your little leftists house of cards in short order here tonight.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

My poor,, poor child.....Pull your blinders off your blind eyes, and take a look at those democrat politicians that you so cherish and worship, and tell me that they are not doing the same ''game rigging'' for themselves and their rich buddies. Go ahead,, I dare you,,because I will bring down your little leftists house of cards in short order here tonight.

Well yes Ace if you want to be that cynical about it; then yes I suppose it could be said all our politicians lie, cheat, and steal. Ok then if that's the way it is, that's the reality, I'd be a fool not to vote for the ones that are going to lie cheat and steal in my favor instead of the 1%.

And if you're not one of the 1% Ace then I'm not the poor poor child.

Besides don't make me prove to you once again that the founders of the nation, and the authors of our constitution were the most liberal politicians in the history of the world up until then.

[ace's n 8's]

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Well yes Ace if you want to be that cynical about it; then yes I suppose it could be said all our politicians lie, cheat, and steal. Ok then if that's the way it is, that's the reality, I'd be a fool not to vote for the ones that are going to lie cheat and steal in my favor instead of the 1%.

I guess if one want's to sit on his fat lazy ass and have everyone else pay for their pathetic life, because the leftists think that everyone is too sorry to provide for themselves,, then I guess that'
s what one should do.

And if you're not one of the 1% Ace then I'm not the poor poor child.

I dont need to be in the 1%, along with the fact that I am not too stupid and sorry to provide for me and my family

Besides don't make me prove to you once again that the founders of the nation, and the authors of our constitution were the most liberal politicians in the history of the world up until then.

You dont need to prove anything,,I know what our founders were,, they were against the King and his dictatorship,,liberals then are not as liberals today,,it's just another liberal lie that has been placed in the classroom for indoctrination purposes.....''OUR FOUNDERS WERE LIBERALS,,THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.''.....Horseshit.

[clarise]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

I guess if one want's to sit on his fat lazy ass and have everyone else pay for their pathetic life, because the leftists think that everyone is too sorry to provide for themselves,, then I guess that'
s what one should do.
I dont need to be in the 1%, along with the fact that I am not too stupid and sorry to provide for me and my family

You dont need to prove anything,,I know what our founders were,, they were against the King and his dictatorship,,liberals then are not as liberals today,,it's just another liberal lie that has been placed in the classroom for indoctrination purposes.....''OUR FOUNDERS WERE LIBERALS,,THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.''.....Horseshit.

What's goin' on here, Aces? More moonbat horseshit?

Are Stumbler and his myrimidons trying to tell you that the Democrats did something besides saddle my great-great-great grandchildren with more debt?

Fuck.

But I see they've stonewalled the budget extension and given the Messiah his October surprise. Good. Good for them.

And I see that lying Mormon mobster from Nevada, that fucker Reid who hasn't shown his tax returns in ages and somehow built a $10 million net worth as a public servant, has done McCarthy proud with a taller edifice of unfounded allegations than the country has ever seen.

Good for you, Reid, you oily little snake, you fucking communist, you bagman for Las Vegas mobsters. Good for you.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by clarise

What's goin' on here, Aces? More moonbat horseshit?

Are Stumbler and his myrimidons trying to tell you that the Democrats did something besides saddle my great-great-great grandchildren with more debt?

Fuck.

But I see they've stonewalled the budget extension and given the Messiah his October surprise. Good. Good for them.

And I see that lying Mormon mobster from Nevada, that fucker Reid who hasn't shown his tax returns in ages and somehow built a $10 million net worth as a public servant, has done McCarthy proud with a taller edifice of unfounded allegations than the country has ever seen.

Good for you, Reid, you oily little snake, you fucking communist, you bagman for Las Vegas mobsters. Good for you.

LAND DEALS,, you know,, the land deals that the republican house wanted to outlaw, and the leftist Senate wanted nothing to do with that,,by no means will we, (as senate leader Ried stated) vote for a bill like this..Another Senate tabled bill passed by the house.

[clarise]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

LAND DEALS,, you know,, the land deals that the republican house wanted to outlaw, and the leftist Senate wanted nothing to do with that,,by no means will we, (as senate leader Ried stated) vote for a bill like this..Another Senate tabled bill passed by the house.

I've heard about that. The rumor is the scumbag was manipulating the zoning to muscle owners into selling, and that he laundered the purchases through a son's law firm.

Last I heard, that was called extortion. Is it me? Or does the fucking asshole who gave us Obamacare have more to answer for than the fellow Mormon whom he is smearing?

Reid is a dirty little snake.