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Old 07-16-2012, 11:23 PM   #101
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You have to hand it to the Jews. They are very creative.
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You might have to ask a few Palestinians about that......

you know....after a few bombing raids.......
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The Israelis were certainly creative about their bombing raids during the Six Day War. They caught the Egyptian Air Force on the ground and destroyed it. Then they annihilated the Egyptian Army in the Sinai Peninsula.

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As they were with their terrorist groups that you conveniently forget about, a whole country built out of terrorism, is that not something you rail against the Palestinians doing. But then you are special.
What was this thread about I forgot...

Hunter thompson as the intern just took you guys for a ride....

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What was this thread about I forgot...

Hunter thompson as the intern just took you guys for a ride....

I bet I'm lost here. But which Hunter Thompson. The gonzo journalist and cliff writer who died in Colorado?
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I bet I'm lost here. But which Hunter Thompson. The gonzo journalist and cliff writer who died in Colorado?
That's the only one I know, so if he was driving the train you can guess why it derailed, while he was snorting a few lines of coal dust and drinking brake fluid mixed with anti-freeze.
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If this forum is really attempting to reduce the amount of fakes,
I agree with origen01 on having some kind of verification beyond that sloppy, albeit amusing, "real people of xnxx" thread.
There are other fakes than the obvious ones. I'm with origen01 and realsexkitten, although I can also understand the points of those opposed to origen's point of view. I shall explain.

For months I was messaging (with polite conversation) what I thought to be a 22 year old female (known as Erotical), and we got to know each other - or so I thought. One day she initiated sexual chat, which I was initially happy with, although "she" made a cornucopia of excuses not to show a photo of herself, which at the start was understandable, yet months down the line, it began to wear somewhat thin. For a single person not to show their face (I suggested this be done via email, which is safe), there has to be something that's not right. I can understand people not wishing to show their faces to the masses, and married people only showing themselves to a select few; however, the "person" I was communicating with had no excuse whatsoever, leading me to believe that "she" isn't a she at all, and that others will be duped into sexy conversations with what is really a man. Also, I have noticed that people think that the avatar that "she" uses, people think is really her. This isn't right.

Perhaps what is required is a thread to warn others of such people. I realise that this will draw a number of comments from both sides of the fence, but the fact that this has happened only goes to strengthen the raison detre of this thread.
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:53 AM   #106
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There are other fakes than the obvious ones. I'm with origen01 and realsexkitten, although I can also understand the points of those opposed to origen's point of view. I shall explain.

For months I was messaging (with polite conversation) what I thought to be a 22 year old female (known as Erotical), and we got to know each other - or so I thought. One day she initiated sexual chat, which I was initially happy with, although "she" made a cornucopia of excuses not to show a photo of herself, which at the start was understandable, yet months down the line, it began to wear somewhat thin. For a single person not to show their face (I suggested this be done via email, which is safe), there has to be something that's not right. I can understand people not wishing to show their faces to the masses, and married people only showing themselves to a select few; however, the "person" I was communicating with had no excuse whatsoever, leading me to believe that "she" isn't a she at all, and that others will be duped into sexy conversations with what is really a man. Also, I have noticed that people think that the avatar that "she" uses, people think is really her. This isn't right.

Perhaps what is required is a thread to warn others of such people. I realise that this will draw a number of comments from both sides of the fence, but the fact that this has happened only goes to strengthen the raison detre of this thread.
This Erotical sounds like someone who used to be around these parts but was banned some 2-2 1/2 yrs ago and is still the subject to many arguments.

Although I think Origen's idea is a good one it still wont prove to 100% that who one is conversing is is either "Julia or John".
However I have an idea that might be better for the folks who don't want to show their faces or any other body part, also as we have all seen that photo verifications can be faked..... how about a verification through voice, either side could send the other via a PM a piece to be read, for instance a favourite quote, and then it's sent back for verification within a ten to fifteen minute period. That way it would stop the fakers from pre-recording someone elses voice............just a thought.
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This Erotical sounds like someone who used to be around these parts but was banned some 2-2 1/2 yrs ago and is still the subject to many arguments.

Although I think Origen's idea is a good one it still wont prove to 100% that who one is conversing is is either "Julia or John".
However I have an idea that might be better for the folks who don't want to show their faces or any other body part, also as we have all seen that photo verifications can be faked..... how about a verification through voice, either side could send the other via a PM a piece to be read, for instance a favourite quote, and then it's sent back for verification within a ten to fifteen minute period. That way it would stop the fakers from pre-recording someone elses voice............just a thought.
It wouldn't surprise me if Erotical is this person.

The voice verification you mentioned is a brilliant idea, and one that no genuine person could have a valid reason to shun. The only drawback is that they could get a friend to do it for them, yet most people on the site don't tend to tell their friends they're on here. I'm a supporter of the idea, though. I did suggest to Erotical that he/she record something on Vocaroo, but he/she wouldn't do it, which merely strengthened my belief that "she" is a fake.
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We all know that anyone with half a brain could set up a account and create a album and avitar from pictures they have found on the internet. Also there will be ways and people out there who could fake a verification pik, which is why I think its a waste of time really.
I think you should treat every one with a bit of caution and if there fakers they will get found out sooner or later.
I think the only way you could match the person on the profile with the picture on there account is to get them too go on cam,
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It's really, really sad - and indicative of modern life, perhaps - that this forum has become such a substitute for real life that people are seriously advocating mandatory verification of sex, either through pictorial or auditory means. This is fucking scary.

It's the internet. If in doubt, consider the words of Gregory House: 'Everybody lies'.

Maintain cognitive dissonance. If you're just looking for a quick flirt to get your rocks off, it doesn't matter if they're male or female, because the entire thing's a fantasy anyway. If you're looking for deep and meaningful conversations, it doesn't matter if the person's male or female either, because both sexes can have deep and meaningful conversations.

And if someone you like very much confesses to being the opposite sex - so what? It's the internet. Move the hell on. Oh - sorry - you were looking for a meaningful relationship with a stranger you met on a porn forum? Don't mind me - I forgot to laugh.
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I wasn't looking for a meaningful relationship of any kind. I already have one. What I want is extra friends. I'm not into phone or cybersex, and if you recollect, I said that he/she instigated sexy talk. I am annoyed because someone isn't who they said they were - pure and simple. I just wish to warn others - those who may be into sex chat - of this "person".
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If there was this "suspicious" thread. We all know that it would only be the females questioned, and what happens if someone just want to be mean/ start trouble for a member?
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If there was this "suspicious" thread. We all know that it would only be the females questioned, and what happens if someone just want to be mean/ start trouble for a member?
I know what you mean, but if posts are substantiated by facts, there can be no or little by way of problems.

It probably would be females that are questioned, because iit is men masquerading as women that is commonplce. I haven't heard of it happening the other way around.
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How dare you! You shit! Just because I didn't respond to you Kevin! You had no reason whatsoever to believe, none at all that I am a man. I ask to call you, you did not anwser. Your last message was a bull push the the rabbit and I will not be pushed around by you!
I AM NOT A MAN, and have never even heard of this site until i stumbled upon it! You have no reason to do this, all because you are the only one I wouldn't role play with. Go fuck yourself asshole, I don't need to be friends with a shit like you!
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How dare you! You shit! Just because I didn't respond to you Kevin! You had no reason whatsoever to believe, none at all that I am a man. I ask to call you, you did not anwser. Your last message was a bull push the the rabbit and I will not be pushed around by you!
I AM NOT A MAN, and have never even heard of this site until i stumbled upon it! You have no reason to do this, all because you are the only one I wouldn't role play with. Go fuck yourself asshole, I don't need to be friends with a shit like you!
Got to be the best and most random post on this place ever.
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How dare you! You shit! Just because I didn't respond to you Kevin! You had no reason whatsoever to believe, none at all that I am a man. I ask to call you, you did not anwser. Your last message was a bull push the the rabbit and I will not be pushed around by you!
I AM NOT A MAN, and have never even heard of this site until i stumbled upon it! You have no reason to do this, all because you are the only one I wouldn't role play with. Go fuck yourself asshole, I don't need to be friends with a shit like you!
You have never verified yourself. Nothing I have written is untrue. As for giving my private phone number to someone I have never seen; that is out of the question. As for other matters, I never requested roleplay with you. I do not do roleplay. What I originally wrote in this thread was well within the boundaries of the topic.
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LOL. It was dramatic.
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It's really, really sad - and indicative of modern life, perhaps - that this forum has become such a substitute for real life that people are seriously advocating mandatory verification of sex, either through pictorial or auditory means. This is fucking scary.

It's the internet. If in doubt, consider the words of Gregory House: 'Everybody lies'.

Maintain cognitive dissonance. If you're just looking for a quick flirt to get your rocks off, it doesn't matter if they're male or female, because the entire thing's a fantasy anyway. If you're looking for deep and meaningful conversations, it doesn't matter if the person's male or female either, because both sexes can have deep and meaningful conversations.

And if someone you like very much confesses to being the opposite sex - so what? It's the internet. Move the hell on. Oh - sorry - you were looking for a meaningful relationship with a stranger you met on a porn forum? Don't mind me - I forgot to laugh.
And a post from someone who truly understands the nature if the Internet.
There are, more than a few, members who cannot accept it for what it is. An escape, that it doesn't matter in the end. As long as you are happy.
Why are others so hellbent on crushing others?
What does it say of those who crow about others being duped?
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Some people choose to be themselves.
Others escape the humdrum/dramas/stresses of everyday life of being someone else.

To use the internet for places like this, you need to suspend the normal worries and the normal skepticism of the "Real World" because sometimes you can drown in it.

The way I see it: if you are skeptical about the identity of one person, then surely you would have to be skeptical about the identity of everyone you talk to online. Second guessing people, second guessing yourself. It sounds tiring.

Does it REALLY matter?
If you are talking to someone that is an impersonator, are they hurting YOU, or just your pride?








Mostly, its just the pride talking.
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Some people choose to be themselves.
Others escape the humdrum/dramas/stresses of everyday life of being someone else.

To use the internet for places like this, you need to suspend the normal worries and the normal skepticism of the "Real World" because sometimes you can drown in it.

The way I see it: if you are skeptical about the identity of one person, then surely you would have to be skeptical about the identity of everyone you talk to online. Second guessing people, second guessing yourself. It sounds tiring.

Does it REALLY matter?
If you are talking to someone that is an impersonator, are they hurting YOU, or just your pride?


Mostly, its just the pride talking.
The ones with multiple personality disorders don't know whether they are coming or going !!
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Oh my gosh, now that's funny, and so clever. I can't wait till Lioness sees that, she (he? it? them?) will have your meat!

And BTW, I got totally lost in this thread. What is being talked about again? Fitness? Reality? Soccer? Soccer was banned in 1314? Can we get it banned again, please?

I'm going back to "Sexuality" where real women like "lenda" are telling us all how they fuckatheydog.

I don't understand how anyone can think this isn't real. Please. Tell me most of it is not real, so I can sleep at night.
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I did not initate any sexy talk with you meforyou, you liar, you are twisting everything, yes, of course I participated in our little sexual banters, but I was always the one to delude you, always. Never taking it too far with you. A man posing as a woman, I would think would be eagar to engage you, especially one that is bisexual, but as it stands, we never fooled around seriously. I even went as far as using the excuse that you were married and that we should just remain friends. Seven to eight months is a long time to wait to broadcast your accusations, and based on what, because I have not showed you pics you asked for, and that you have not gotten your way. You weren't like this when I was only messaging you Kevin. You and I both know this isn't about gender. As pertaining to your phone number, you didn't have a problem with it at first asshole. You know what, I AM a woman, and there is nothing you can ever do to change it. I have not even messaged you these many weeks, except to reply to your most recent of messages.
Why am I even bothered! All you're looking for is some excitement.

All you are is a sour and bitter sissy ninny.

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Oh, these little lover's spats. So adorable.

Now, now--"A sour and bitter sissy ninny!" That's low.

I am waiting for the folding chairs to start to fly, a la Jerry Springer.

Can't we all just get along? So what if some of us pretend to be women pretending to be lions pretending to like multiple anal penetrations pretending to be fuckadog men wearing high heels with huge, uncut cocks? We're all friends, right?

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He was low in the first place to make such accusations. Thats low.
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Yawn. I may reply to this when i am home.
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There are other fakes than the obvious ones. I'm with origen01 and realsexkitten, although I can also understand the points of those opposed to origen's point of view. I shall explain.

For months I was messaging (with polite conversation) what I thought to be a 22 year old female (known as Erotical), and we got to know each other - or so I thought. One day she initiated sexual chat, which I was initially happy with, although "she" made a cornucopia of excuses not to show a photo of herself, which at the start was understandable, yet months down the line, it began to wear somewhat thin. For a single person not to show their face (I suggested this be done via email, which is safe), there has to be something that's not right. I can understand people not wishing to show their faces to the masses, and married people only showing themselves to a select few; however, the "person" I was communicating with had no excuse whatsoever, leading me to believe that "she" isn't a she at all, and that others will be duped into sexy conversations with what is really a man. Also, I have noticed that people think that the avatar that "she" uses, people think is really her. This isn't right.

Perhaps what is required is a thread to warn others of such people. I realise that this will draw a number of comments from both sides of the fence, but the fact that this has happened only goes to strengthen the raison detre of this thread.
Oh boy, you got "silverbacked", did you not read the warning in my "Road Map to XNXX"?

As for mandatory verification, a big no, that would take all the fun out of the silverback hunts, which can be fun.

Go forth and have fun, but be careful in future, and in the words of my boy when his friends told him that the girls he was role playing with were usually males.
"Fuck that they are girls on my computer".

Being silverbacked can only hurt if the offender boasts of his successes which he won't do, or if you tell all that you suspect that you have been fooled.
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That was a typing error. What I meant was, to elude...evade, dodge, to side step, avoid.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:20 AM   #133
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This is but one 'I'M TELLING ON YOU!' away from being a school playground.

We're supposed to be adults here. Don't air your dirty laundry in public.
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I'm taking bets on the ages of these two . . . I'll give you 20-1 if either one is older than 14 (mentally and emotionally) on the other hand, this is why wide-open forums like xNxx are comedy gold:

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There are other fakes than the obvious ones. I'm with origen01 and realsexkitten, although I can also understand the points of those opposed to origen's point of view. I shall explain.

For months I was messaging (with polite conversation) what I thought to be a 22 year old female (known as Erotical), and we got to know each other - or so I thought. One day she initiated sexual chat, which I was initially happy with, although "she" made a cornucopia of excuses not to show a photo of herself, which at the start was understandable, yet months down the line, it began to wear somewhat thin. For a single person not to show their face (I suggested this be done via email, which is safe), there has to be something that's not right. I can understand people not wishing to show their faces to the masses, and married people only showing themselves to a select few; however, the "person" I was communicating with had no excuse whatsoever, leading me to believe that "she" isn't a she at all, and that others will be duped into sexy conversations with what is really a man. Also, I have noticed that people think that the avatar that "she" uses, people think is really her. This isn't right.

Perhaps what is required is a thread to warn others of such people. I realise that this will draw a number of comments from both sides of the fence, but the fact that this has happened only goes to strengthen the raison detre of this thread.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Erotical is this person.

The voice verification you mentioned is a brilliant idea, and one that no genuine person could have a valid reason to shun. The only drawback is that they could get a friend to do it for them, yet most people on the site don't tend to tell their friends they're on here. I'm a supporter of the idea, though. I did suggest to Erotical that he/she record something on Vocaroo, but he/she wouldn't do it, which merely strengthened my belief that "she" is a fake.
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How dare you! You shit! Just because I didn't respond to you Kevin! You had no reason whatsoever to believe, none at all that I am a man. I ask to call you, you did not anwser. Your last message was a bull push the the rabbit and I will not be pushed around by you!
I AM NOT A MAN, and have never even heard of this site until i stumbled upon it! You have no reason to do this, all because you are the only one I wouldn't role play with. Go fuck yourself asshole, I don't need to be friends with a shit like you!
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You have never verified yourself. Nothing I have written is untrue. As for giving my private phone number to someone I have never seen; that is out of the question. As for other matters, I never requested roleplay with you. I do not do roleplay. What I originally wrote in this thread was well within the boundaries of the topic.
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I did not initate any sexy talk with you meforyou, you liar, you are twisting everything, yes, of course I participated in our little sexual banters, but I was always the one to delude you, always. Never taking it too far with you. A man posing as a woman, I would think would be eagar to engage you, especially one that is bisexual, but as it stands, we never fooled around seriously. I even went as far as using the excuse that you were married and that we should just remain friends. Seven to eight months is a long time to wait to broadcast your accusations, and based on what, because I have not showed you pics you asked for, and that you have not gotten your way. You weren't like this when I was only messaging you Kevin. You and I both know this isn't about gender. As pertaining to your phone number, you didn't have a problem with it at first asshole. You know what, I AM a woman, and there is nothing you can ever do to change it. I have not even messaged you these many weeks, except to reply to your most recent of messages.
Why am I even bothered! All you're looking for is some excitement.

All you are is a sour and bitter sissy ninny.
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He was low in the first place to make such accusations. Thats low.
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Yawn. I may reply to this when i am home.
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That was a typing error. What I meant was, to elude...evade, dodge, to side step, avoid.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:20 AM   #136
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You are right, Old Tool, but I am also not ashamed of my behaviour today, I was wrongly accused, and it was only normal for me to want to defend myself. I am sure if it was any one else they would have felt defensive also. This is not about whether I am a man or a woman. We both know what this about, but I'm not going to indulge you anymore meforyou.
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It's really, really sad - and indicative of modern life, perhaps - that this forum has become such a substitute for real life that people are seriously advocating mandatory verification of sex, either through pictorial or auditory means. This is fucking scary.

It's the internet. If in doubt, consider the words of Gregory House: 'Everybody lies'.

Maintain cognitive dissonance. If you're just looking for a quick flirt to get your rocks off, it doesn't matter if they're male or female, because the entire thing's a fantasy anyway. If you're looking for deep and meaningful conversations, it doesn't matter if the person's male or female either, because both sexes can have deep and meaningful conversations.

And if someone you like very much confesses to being the opposite sex - so what? It's the internet. Move the hell on. Oh - sorry - you were looking for a meaningful relationship with a stranger you met on a porn forum? Don't mind me - I forgot to laugh.
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In spite of Erotical's hysterical and somewhat deluded rantings, I stand by what I said. What I posted was in the spirit of the thread, and goes some way to substantiate Origen's original posting. After many months of being told I'm a great guy, and a number of requests of a "face" photo, all I received was a number of lame excuses. I have given FACTS. I can do no more. I had suspicions; I acted upon them; pure and simple. There iis nothing fake about me; I am verified.
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I'm taking bets on the ages of these two . . . I'll give you 20-1 if either one is older than 14 (mentally and emotionally) on the other hand, this is why wide-open forums like xNxx are comedy gold:
Comedy gold, LOL.

Well, Old Tool, I must be the straight guy, because all I have done is point out facts. I have not ranted in any way whatsoever. I posted a suspicion in keeping with the thread, and pointed out an unverified member. I could have gone on the offensive; I did not.
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I am not looking for "excitement". I am married, and have excitement in real life, rather than via a computer pad. Sex is real - for me.

I should point out that I have never done anything such as this before, and in all probability, never will. It is at an end. I pointed out someone who refused to verify to a "friend", who never did. They ranted in response, yet never substantiated. Line drawn. MOVE ON.
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I did not initate any sexy talk with you meforyou, you liar, you are twisting everything, yes, of course I participated in our little sexual banters, but I was always the one to delude you, always. Never taking it too far with you. A man posing as a woman, I would think would be eagar to engage you, especially one that is bisexual, but as it stands, we never fooled around seriously. I even went as far as using the excuse that you were married and that we should just remain friends. Seven to eight months is a long time to wait to broadcast your accusations, and based on what, because I have not showed you pics you asked for, and that you have not gotten your way. You weren't like this when I was only messaging you Kevin. You and I both know this isn't about gender. As pertaining to your phone number, you didn't have a problem with it at first asshole. You know what, I AM a woman, and there is nothing you can ever do to change it. I have not even messaged you these many weeks, except to reply to your most recent of messages.
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...If you're just looking for a quick flirt to get your rocks off, it doesn't matter if they're male or female....
You must be bi.

I think that this whole cybering crap is for losers anyway. (It ranks only one step higher than downloading pics...cumming on them...and then reposting them online.)

But...putting aside the loser aspect of it...it's one thing to be anonymous (like me...my real name isn't even Joe). It's quite another to be a LIAR and a FRAUD who is pretending to be a chick just to laugh his ass off at some loser who is really jerking it to a dude who thinks he's a chick.

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Gosh, you think?


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But...putting aside the loser aspect of it...it's one thing to be anonymous (like me...my real name isn't even Joe). It's quite another to be a LIAR and a FRAUD who is pretending to be a chick just to laugh his ass off at some loser who is really jerking it to a dude who thinks he's a chick.
What's the problem? You thought they were a girl; you got your rocks off and deposited them all over your sweaty fist.

Does the sudden knowledge that the girl mashing her fingers up her cunt in excitement at the thought of you squeezing your cock puce was actually a man with a cigarette in one hand and a beer in the other somehow negate what just happened?

Can they really rewrite your history? And if they can, why do you give them so much power?
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