Israel and Palestinians to resume direct peace talks

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by richief

sounds more like a Palestinian scam to implicate the Israelis in his death, I would find it more likely that he got "hit" by his own side as his policies did not follow the path of theirs. Any bets that the body is clean and any radiation found is at normal background levels.

Believe me I'll be most careful. I knew Arafat was a terrorist and scoundrel at one time but stood up for him being a humble man of the people in an extremely difficult political environment.

On this very forum in fact.

And a member who called himself ShakeZula happened by and by the time he got done beating me with facts out in the reality wood shed I'm not nearly naive as I once was.

But I also have to point out that many times with Israel and the Palestinians its the more complicated and convoluted explanation that turns out to be true.

[origen01]

High radiation levels are not uncommon in a population inundated with Israeli artillery shelling...

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by origen01

High radiation levels are not uncommon in a population inundated with Israeli artillery shelling...

Actually I'm pretty sure you're right because of Israel's use of spent uranium shells. But this is supposed to be a very rare form of radiation. At least that's what I'm reading.

[richief]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Believe me I'll be most careful. I knew Arafat was a terrorist and scoundrel at one time but stood up for him being a humble man of the people in an extremely difficult political environment.

On this very forum in fact.

And a member who called himself ShakeZula happened by and by the time he got done beating me with facts out in the reality wood shed I'm not nearly naive as I once was.

But I also have to point out that many times with Israel and the Palestinians its the more complicated and convoluted explanation that turns out to be true.

I am quite aware of the Israeli terrorism going all the way back to the partition, at one point my Uncle was on the Stern Gangs "hit" list, his crime was capturing a couple of their members doing bad things, I think he was took of the list as he died about ten years ago, but that could have been a Mossad act, I must seek council with my cousins to discuss this.

Seriously I have read a little on the terrorist groups of the Israelis and they were not nice people. But I do think this is possibly a hoax to create an untenable position for the leaders of the Palestinians.

[AZRIEL]

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by richief

I am quite aware of the Israeli terrorism going all the way back to the partition, at one point my Uncle was on the Stern Gangs "hit" list, his crime was capturing a couple of their members doing bad things, I think he was took of the list as he died about ten years ago, but that could have been a Mossad act, I must seek council with my cousins to discuss this.

Seriously I have read a little on the terrorist groups of the Israelis and they were not nice people. But I do think this is possibly a hoax to create an untenable position for the leaders of the Palestinians.

Let's discuss the Israeli's and the Palestinians. If we grant both people. And afford them complete credibility for both their contradictory claims. How much have their cultures adapted compared to eagles beaks in the past 20,000 years?

Its all the same game. It depends on which side won and when. But its never what it says it is and its only rarely you might get a peek behind the scenes.

http://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/essays/rokach.html

[AZRIEL]

[Distant Lover]

KABUL — A man Afghan officials say is a member of the Taliban shot dead a woman accused of adultery in front of a crowd near Kabul, a video obtained by Reuters showed, a sign that the austere Islamist group dictates law even near the Afghan capital.

In the three-minute video, a turban-clad man approaches a woman kneeling in the dirt and shoots her five times at close range with an automatic rifle, to cheers of jubilation from the 150 or so men watching in a village in Parwan province.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48105731..._central_asia/

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This is what Israel is expected to make concessions to.

[richief]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

KABUL — A man Afghan officials say is a member of the Taliban shot dead a woman accused of adultery in front of a crowd near Kabul, a video obtained by Reuters showed, a sign that the austere Islamist group dictates law even near the Afghan capital.

In the three-minute video, a turban-clad man approaches a woman kneeling in the dirt and shoots her five times at close range with an automatic rifle, to cheers of jubilation from the 150 or so men watching in a village in Parwan province.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48105731..._central_asia/

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This is what Israel is expected to make concessions to.

Why would Israel need to make concessions to Afghanistan, they have no argument there, the concessions need to be made to Palestinians so do try not to muddy the water with oblique references to what happens in the rest of the world.

As for using the death penalty for crime the US has not one leg to stand on, 5th in the hit parade only outstripped by Iraq, Iran, Saudi and the all time leader China, yep the same Chinese you revere are killing their citizens at a faster rate than you.

In China, 55 crimes carry the death penalty, from murder, treason and armed rebellion to bribery and smuggling. Thirteen other crimes, including VAT fraud, smuggling relics and credit fraud, were only recently removed from the list of capital offences.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17303746

Quite a few crimes there that carry the death penalty which I could agree with, like murder and treason, but bribery and smuggling, and recently VAT fraud, really is that the behaviour of a civilised country.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

Why would Israel need to make concessions to Afghanistan, they have no argument there, the concessions need to be made to Palestinians so do try not to muddy the water with oblique references to what happens in the rest of the world.

As for using the death penalty for crime the US has not one leg to stand on, 5th in the hit parade only outstripped by Iraq, Iran, Saudi and the all time leader China, yep the same Chinese you revere are killing their citizens at a faster rate than you.

Quite a few crimes there that carry the death penalty which I could agree with, like murder and treason, but bribery and smuggling, and recently VAT fraud, really is that the behaviour of a civilised country.

According to a survey released by the Pew Research Center December 2, 2010 in Egypt Muslims think 84 percent of those who leave Islam should be executed. In Jordan the percentage is 86 percent.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/...and-hezbollah/

These are considered to be moderate Islamic countries. I am confident that the Palestinians agree with them.

The Israelis are people like us. Those who surround them, and who want to annihilate them are not.

[richief]

Your confidence is noted and ignored. Your bigotry however is noted and not ignored.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by richief

Why would Israel need to make concessions to Afghanistan, they have no argument there, the concessions need to be made to Palestinians so do try not to muddy the water with oblique references to what happens in the rest of the world.

As for using the death penalty for crime the US has not one leg to stand on, 5th in the hit parade only outstripped by Iraq, Iran, Saudi and the all time leader China, yep the same Chinese you revere are killing their citizens at a faster rate than you.

Quite a few crimes there that carry the death penalty which I could agree with, like murder and treason, but bribery and smuggling, and recently VAT fraud, really is that the behaviour of a civilised country.

I don't know. It kind of reminds me of the Republicans cheering the executions in Texas even though there is strong evidence they are occasionally executing innocent people.

But DL is right we are so much better than the Taliban because we're never going to get to see a video of Texas executing an innocent man to see who all cheers that.

[richief]

Originally Posted by stumbler

I don't know. It kind of reminds me of the Republicans cheering the executions in Texas even though there is strong evidence they are occasionally executing innocent people.

But DL is right we are so much better than the Taliban because we're never going to get to see a video of Texas executing an innocent man to see who all cheers that.

What is worse is that the people he venerates and claims to be the leaders in the IQ race are or were executing people for VAT avoidance, now that would put half of the US on death row, odd for such a civilised people.

I treat much of what he says as trolling, his out look on world matters appears to be naive at the best.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by richief

What is worse is that the people he venerates and claims to be the leaders in the IQ race are or were executing people for VAT avoidance, now that would put half of the US on death row, odd for such a civilised people.

I treat much of what he says as trolling, his out look on world matters appears to be naive at the best.

I treat all of him/her/it as trolling and admit that's my own prejudice because I'm ashamed to admit he played me once and I should have seen him coming.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

Your confidence is noted and ignored. Your bigotry however is noted and not ignored.

What you call my bigotry is my realistic appraisal of various population groups.

In an earlier thread I drew attention to a Pew Research Center survey released December 2, 2010 that indicated that in Egypt 84 percent of Muslims favored the death penalty for those leaving the Muslim faith. In Jordan it was 86 percent.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/...and-hezbollah/

The Palestinians were not listed, but I imagine it is comparable there.

Nevertheless, secular liberals pressure Israel to make concessions to those people. They also like to claim that Christianity is somehow moral equivalent to Islam. Well, it is not.

The Israelis are people like us. The Moslems are not. Israel is a small oaisis of civilization surrounded by a vast desert of primitive and horrifying Moslem barbarism.

[Distant Lover]

In the Palestinian communities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Israel, and Jordan, women are executed in their homes, in open fields, and occasionally in public, sometimes before crowds of cheering onlookers...

The West Bank and Gaza Strip are governed by the Palestinian Authority under a combination of Jordanian, Egyptian, and tribal laws. Israel has no jurisdiction in these territories. There are at least twenty-five "official" honor killings a year among the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and thirty-five a year in Jordan. The actual number of deaths is much higher...

In some areas, a Palestinian woman is required to have a male relative accompany her whenever she leaves the home. Unfortunately, her male "guardian"--father, brother, uncle, or cousin--may be a sexual predator who rapes her. Should she become pregnant, he will publicly condemn her for dishonoring the family after killing both her and their unborn child. Last year, seventeen-year-old Afaf Younes was killed by her father, who had allegedly been sexually molesting her. Afaf had tried to escape his sexual abuse by running away, but she was caught and returned to her father. He then shot her in the name of honor.

A sixteen-year-old Palestinian girl became pregnant after being raped by her younger brother. Once her condition became known, her family encouraged her older brother to kill her to remove the blemish from their honor. Her brothers, the rapist and the murderer, were exonerated.
http://www.worldandi.com/newhome/pub.../may/clpub.asp

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

In the Palestinian communities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Israel, and Jordan, women are executed in their homes, in open fields, and occasionally in public, sometimes before crowds of cheering onlookers...........clipped

You want to post atrocities, then I'll give you more current inhumane acts......and take careful note, this weblink isn't a Palestian site, it's actually run by the Israeli's.
**B'Tselem - The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories**

http://www.btselem.org/testimonies


**ISA prevents young man with rare disease from traveling to East Jerusalem for treatment

Kamel a-Taramsi



**Testimony: Life without running water in the Jordan Valley, suffer from severe water shortage, April 2011
Meyasar Masa’ed, 56, mother of nine






Those are just a couple of the hundreds of testimonies on this site. For all the small amount of suffering the Israeli's have had to endue it is nothing to what the Palestinians and especially the people living in the concentration camp called The Gaza Strip have had thrust upon them by the vile Israeli governemnt.



The majority of Jews are good people, the majority of Jews want nothing more than to live in peace with their Palestinian brothers and sisters. It's just the radical jews and Netanyahu that wont let it happen.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

You want to post atrocities, then I'll give you more current inhumane acts......and take careful note, this weblink isn't a Palestian site, it's actually run by the Israeli's.
**B'Tselem - The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories**

http://www.btselem.org/testimonies


**ISA prevents young man with rare disease from traveling to East Jerusalem for treatment

Kamel a-Taramsi



**Testimony: Life without running water in the Jordan Valley, suffer from severe water shortage, April 2011
Meyasar Masa’ed, 56, mother of nine






Those are just a couple of the hundreds of testimonies on this site. For all the small amount of suffering the Israeli's have had to endue it is nothing to what the Palestinians and especially the people living in the concentration camp called The Gaza Strip have had thrust upon them by the vile Israeli governemnt.



The majority of Jews are good people, the majority of Jews want nothing more than to live in peace with their Palestinian brothers and sisters. It's just the radical jews and Netanyahu that wont let it happen.

Of course it is run by the Israelis. They are civilized and have a social consciousness. Where is the Palestinian group that exposes Palestinian acts of terror against Israelis, honor killing, and the Palestinian persecution of homosexuals?

[richief]

Civilised enough to deny a boy treatment for a rare disease, civilised enough to block running water to a village. But then if that is what you set your standards by then your bigotry is understandable.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

Civilised enough to deny a boy treatment for a rare disease, civilised enough to block running water to a village. But then if that is what you set your standards by then your bigotry is understandable.

The Israelis do not publicly kill their sisters and daughters after impregnating them.

[richief]

You are making claims with no basis in facts, where are your charts and graphs, where are you polls and testaments?

Master of facts my arse.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

You are making claims with no basis in facts, where are your charts and graphs, where are you polls and testaments?

Master of facts my arse.

You are an ass all right, but that is not my main point. Here are the facts of which I am the Master:

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

In the Palestinian communities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Israel, and Jordan, women are executed in their homes, in open fields, and occasionally in public, sometimes before crowds of cheering onlookers...

The West Bank and Gaza Strip are governed by the Palestinian Authority under a combination of Jordanian, Egyptian, and tribal laws. Israel has no jurisdiction in these territories. There are at least twenty-five "official" honor killings a year among the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and thirty-five a year in Jordan. The actual number of deaths is much higher...

In some areas, a Palestinian woman is required to have a male relative accompany her whenever she leaves the home. Unfortunately, her male "guardian"--father, brother, uncle, or cousin--may be a sexual predator who rapes her. Should she become pregnant, he will publicly condemn her for dishonoring the family after killing both her and their unborn child. Last year, seventeen-year-old Afaf Younes was killed by her father, who had allegedly been sexually molesting her. Afaf had tried to escape his sexual abuse by running away, but she was caught and returned to her father. He then shot her in the name of honor.

A sixteen-year-old Palestinian girl became pregnant after being raped by her younger brother. Once her condition became known, her family encouraged her older brother to kill her to remove the blemish from their honor. Her brothers, the rapist and the murderer, were exonerated.
http://www.worldandi.com/newhome/pub.../may/clpub.asp

[richief]

Marvellous, so I am to believe a blog/article with no links to a reputable site for confirmation. Sorry that will not do.

I compared "Master of Facts" to may arse, I am truly sorry about that, my arse has better integrity and is a more believable.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

Marvellous, so I am to believe a blog/article with no links to a reputable site for confirmation. Sorry that will not do.

I compared "Master of Facts" to may arse, I am truly sorry about that, my arse has better integrity and is a more believable.

When I did an internet search for Palestinian + "honor killings" I got 209,000 results.

http://www.google.com/webhp?source=s...iw=722&bih=575

I do not think they are making it up.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

When I did an internet search for Palestinian + "honor killings" I got 209,000 results.

http://www.google.com/webhp?source=s...iw=722&bih=575

I do not think they are making it up.

Why you fucking whimp DL.

When I googled US executions I got 11,600,000.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Why you fucking whimp DL.

When I googled US executions I got 11,600,000.

In the United States women do not get executed for being raped. In Arab countries and in Afghanistan their male relatives kill them as the mob roars its approval, even if one of those male relatives raped them.

[richief]

I would advise you to clean your own house first, but you would only blame the honour killings in the US as being done by muslim immigrants, or find a way of blaming all Arabs.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

I would advise you to clean your own house first, but you would only blame the honour killings in the US as being done by muslim immigrants, or find a way of blaming all Arabs.

There can be no moral equivalence between executing murders and murdering rape victims, especially when their male relatives murder them.

[richief]

Maybe I should be more blunt, before you go around telling the Arab world to clean up their honour killings do the same at home first.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...ny-in-the-u.s/

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

Maybe I should be more blunt, before you go around telling the Arab world to clean up their honour killings do the same at home first.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...ny-in-the-u.s/

Let me be blunt. The Arabs have nothing to teach us about justice and enlightenment. They have much to learn.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Let me be blunt. The Arabs have nothing to teach us about justice and enlightenment. They have much to learn.

Let me be blunter. You're no judge of teachers.

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Why you fucking whimp DL.

When I googled US executions I got 11,600,000.

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

In the United States women do not get executed for being raped. In Arab countries and in Afghanistan their male relatives kill them as the mob roars its approval, even if one of those male relatives raped them.

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Let me be blunt. The Arabs have nothing to teach us about justice and enlightenment. They have much to learn.

Originally Posted by stumbler

Let me be blunter. You're no judge of teachers.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Let me be blunter. You're no judge of teachers.

Then why do I have such an easy time substantiating my assertions with facts, rather than flame attacks?

Most of what I know I taught myself, but I did have some inspiring teachers along the way.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Then why do I have such an easy time substantiating my assertions with facts, rather than flame attacks?

Most of what I know I taught myself, but I did have some inspiring teachers along the way.

For the same reason you enlist others in your groveling for friendship.

You ain't real and never was.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by stumbler

For the same reason you enlist others in your groveling for friendship.

You ain't real and never was.

If I like someone I say so. If I disagree with someone I do not tell him he is a brainwashed parrot. If I can refute his argument rationally I do.

[richief]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Then why do I have such an easy time substantiating my assertions with facts, rather than flame attacks?

Most of what I know I taught myself, but I did have some inspiring teachers along the way.

That is where it all went wrong, you are not much of a teacher are you.

[69magpie]

Maybe the politicians should take a hint from these people...13 Israelis and 13 Palestianians playing harmonously together in a sporting team..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsMEfJflgW8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-Lc...eature=related


These guys should be the new ambassadors for to bring peace to the area, and other sporting codes should follow their lead.
FIFA needs to start up a peace team just like the Australians have help to promote peace.
A positive overwhelming voice of the people can make politicians shit themselves.

From personal experience from when I was working and living in Sweden a number of years ago I worked on a building site owned by a Jew who employed a couple of Palestinians, a couple of Jordanians, Lebonese, Jews, an Egyptian and myself.
We all got along and worked well together, every lunch a couple of the guys would cook up a storm of their traditional food and then we'd all sit down and break bread together.....and yes, discuss the goings on between the countries. They all agreed without hesitation that all they wanted was peace and the majority of everyone in the area want it as well. It's just some of the blood hungry pollies from both sides that wont bend with the will of the people, and the minority of the lunatic fringe of fanatical fuckers from both sides that keep the hatred going.

[Distant Lover]

Pop quiz: What contributions have Palestinians made to civilization since the Dispersal of the Jews after the Bar Kokhba Revolt of 132-136?

[richief]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Pop quiz: What contributions have Palestinians made to civilization since the Dispersal of the Jews after the Bar Kokhba Revolt of 132-136?

What does that matter, there are plenty of nations who have not contributed anything of note to the world.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

What does that matter, there are plenty of nations who have not contributed anything of note to the world.

When people complain about the plight of the Palestinians I wonder why I should care. Who are the Palestinians that their happiness and well being should conflict with that of the Children of Israel? Those who worry about the Palestinians should worry about endangered animal species instead. They are more interesting.

The Jews are the light of the world. All of Israel and the occupied territories are less than one percent of all Arab land. Settle the Palestinians elsewhere in the Arab world, and let the Israelis annex the land they conquered during the Six Day War.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Pop quiz: What contributions have Palestinians made to civilization since the Dispersal of the Jews after the Bar Kokhba Revolt of 132-136?

Since no one answered, Eusebius was a Christian Palestinian who lived from AD 263 to 339. He wrote a number of books, including the Ecclesiastical History. It is from this that we learn much about the early history of Christianity.

[richief]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

When people complain about the plight of the Palestinians I wonder why I should care. Who are the Palestinians that their happiness and well being should conflict with that of the Children of Israel? Those who worry about the Palestinians should worry about endangered animal species instead. They are more interesting.

The Jews are the light of the world. All of Israel and the occupied territories are less than one percent of all Arab land. Settle the Palestinians elsewhere in the Arab world, and let the Israelis annex the land they conquered during the Six Day War.

People defend your rights, without knowing you, and yet they still defend those rights.

[smcaaphd]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Pop quiz: What contributions have Palestinians made to civilization since the Dispersal of the Jews after the Bar Kokhba Revolt of 132-136?

Pop answer: The middle, under the reign/rule of the Palestinians were the centre of intelligence, art and culture. Not too certain any more of the dates, but I'm certain it was after 132-136

[richief]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

When people complain about the plight of the Palestinians I wonder why I should care. Who are the Palestinians that their happiness and well being should conflict with that of the Children of Israel? Those who worry about the Palestinians should worry about endangered animal species instead. They are more interesting.

The Jews are the light of the world. All of Israel and the occupied territories are less than one percent of all Arab land. Settle the Palestinians elsewhere in the Arab world, and let the Israelis annex the land they conquered during the Six Day War.

You are a fool and thankfully have nothing to do with international politics, but lets take your model and go back to 1945.

Let the Jews pick any state of the union and let them settle there, then after a few years let them begin annexing the land from their neighbouring states. If the the US complains let them settle the refugees elsewhere and let the jews keep the land that they have annexed.

A stupid plan but then what can we expect from anything from you.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by richief

You are a fool and thankfully have nothing to do with international politics, but lets take your model and go back to 1945.

Let the Jews pick any state of the union and let them settle there, then after a few years let them begin annexing the land from their neighbouring states. If the the US complains let them settle the refugees elsewhere and let the jews keep the land that they have annexed.

A stupid plan but then what can we expect from anything from you.

You know what's really funny is Distant Lover just contradicted one of his major claims on other days that there were no Palestinian People.

Then he turns around and references one back in 263 AD.

Hilarious.

[richief]

For a scholar of the bible he should certainly know of the philistines, they also got a bad press from the jews back in the day.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by richief

For a scholar of the bible he should certainly know of the philistines, they also got a bad press from the jews back in the day.

Let's take a quick break here because, and I don't even really know why, but that was the best laugh I've had all day. That one literally cracked me up.

Also notice this, DL is down to one tiny, tiny ethnic group to try and prove his Jews are superior theory because he really did run with that bullshit until I pointed out to him Jews are not a race. They are a religion that includes all races.

On the serious front as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was leaving Egypt under a hail of tomatoes, and shoes and shouts of Monica, Monica, she popped right over to Israel to discuss ....... you know ....... a few minor points as the Middle East as we know it dissolves, Syria turns into a killing field, Iran grows politically stronger than any other country and oh yeah that little matter of Israel and the Palestinians.

I've never more global political stress involving all the world powers located in any patch of land on earth before this.

Such so that when the US Navy fired on a private pleasure boat today that ignored all warnings, killing 1 and wounding 2, the price of Oil took an immediate jump.

[richief]

The warnings for Syria were there a while back, I'm sure I noted them, as for Hilary's political kudos, it is pretty low in that area due to the Jewish lobby I guess, I noted your religion versus race argument but seem to remember that he posted some link that said they were both, I think it was an Israeli sponsored site. Iran continues to threaten all of it's neighbours to the west and south, the others have access to nukes so they leave them alone, though they may be trying to undermine them surreptitiously, in fact they probably are. I doubt they have the means to produce any atomic devices, but they may not need to fight anyone if they can use sedition to overthrow the kingdoms of the gulf before they can be persuaded to go democratic. The area is and always will be a political powder keg that only exists for one reason. As for the last point, what idiot sails near a USN task force don't they know about their itchy trigger fingers.

[stumbler]

Palestians say Romney remarks ‘harmful’ to U.S. interests

RAMALLAH, Palestinian Territories — US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney’s endorsement of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is “harmful” to US interests in the Middle East, a senior Palestinian official said on Sunday.


“Romney’s declarations are harmful to American interests in our region, and they harm peace, security and stability,” Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat told AFP.


“Even if this statement is within the US election campaign, it is unacceptable and we completely reject it. The US election campaign should never be at the expense of the Palestinians,” he said.
“Romney is rewarding occupation, settlement and extremism in the region with such declarations.”


At a speech in Jerusalem, Romney on Sunday hailed Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, in an apparent endorsement of a position held by the Jewish state but never accepted by the international community.


“It is a deeply moving experience to be in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel,” the Republican challenger said in a speech given on a rooftop overlooking Jerusalem’s Old City in which he laid out key foreign policy issues facing Israel.


“East Jerusalem is occupied, and according to the two-state solution — which is supported by the whole world, including by the United States and by the majority of Israeli people — east Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine and west Jerusalem is the capital of Israel,” Erakat said.


“You cannot have a two-state solution without east Jerusalem being the capital of Palestine,” he said.


Israel, which occupied the largely Arab eastern sector during the 1967 Six-Day War and later annexed it, claims both halves of the city to be its “eternal and undivided capital.”


But the Palestinians want the eastern sector as capital of their promised state and fiercely oppose any Israeli attempt to extend sovereignty there.


Most of the international community, including the United States, does not formally recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s capital due to the ongoing conflict, insisting the issue can only be resolved through final status negotiations.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/2...u-s-interests/

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by stumbler

Also notice this, DL is down to one tiny, tiny ethnic group to try and prove his Jews are superior theory because he really did run with that bullshit until I pointed out to him Jews are not a race. They are a religion that includes all races.

The New York Times January 14, 2006

Until now, it had been widely assumed by geneticists that the Ashkenazi communities of Northern and Central Europe were founded by men who came from the Middle East, perhaps as traders, and by the women from each local population whom they took as wives and converted to Judaism.

But the new study, published online this week in The American Journal of Human Genetics, suggests that the men and their wives migrated to Europe together...

A study by Michael Hammer of the University of Arizona showed five years ago that the men in many Jewish communities around the world bore Y chromosomes that were Middle Eastern in origin. This finding is widely accepted by geneticists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/14/science/14gene.html

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It is generally understood that the Jews are both a race and a religion. Moreover, with an average IQ of 112 the Ashkenazim are the most superior sub race in existence. That is why Jews have won one out of five Nobel Prizes, and why they are prominent in all areas requiring superior intelligence.