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Old 07-01-2012, 10:09 PM   #1
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Your comments are more than welcome and appreciated. I tried to do something with formatting as I really liked the way ahorsewithnoname did his winning CAW11 entry. I don't think I did as well but I gave it a whirl.
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Your comments are more than welcome and appreciated. I tried to do something with formatting as I really liked the way ahorsewithnoname did his winning CAW11 entry. I don't think I did as well but I gave it a whirl.
While I'd prefer people didn't get too gimmicky with these things, the narrow formatting and the maintaining of indents makes for a much easier read. ASSTR does this by default for text submissions.

If you wanted, you could simulate some of this in BBcode by using the indent feature (which does not actually let you indent the first line of paragraphs.) Increasing the font size helps too, I think.

[prose]A custom BBcode to indent paragraphs or to otherwise format them pleasantly would be fairly trivial to implement. Sadly, it has not be done.[/prose]
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[prose]A custom BBcode to indent paragraphs or to otherwise format them pleasantly would be fairly trivial to implement. Sadly, it has not be done.[/prose]
Thanks for the input. I don't think the above was exactly what I was looking for. This website does not allow for a lot of indention or justification of text but my MS Word program does. Those MS Word codes don't transfer to here very well (as most new users find out) and sometimes show the hidden codes or just spring the text into a wall of words with no formatting.
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Good story ELP.
Thanks, Snow. I tried to put some effort into this but it's not as good as your last story.
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Thanks, Snow. I tried to put some effort into this but it's not as good as your last story.
LOL, thanks for the compliment ELP. Cupid's Corner looks to be coming along fine; so many readers in such a short time is amazing for me. The last short story on it of the hot latina is good, yet you and others are in a league of their own which I am not yet close to.

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How old is the boy in this story, EL-P?

According to the text....

The boy couldn't have been much older than thirteen himself.

They are allegedly describing bad things that had been done to them IN THE PAST PRIOR TO THEIR UNCLE BEING ARRESTED.

According to The Fount Of All Human Knowledge....

"As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in persons who are 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally those under the age of 14, though onset of puberty varies)...."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

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THIS IS A PEDO STORY AND SHOULD BE REMOVED.
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How old is the boy in this story, EL-P?




According to the text....

The boy couldn't have been much older than thirteen himself.

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THIS IS A PEDO STORY AND SHOULD BE REMOVED.


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How old is the boy in this story, EL-P?

According to the text....

The boy couldn't have been much older than thirteen himself.

They are allegedly describing bad things that had been done to them IN THE PAST PRIOR TO THEIR UNCLE BEING ARRESTED.

According to The Fount Of All Human Knowledge....

"As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in persons who are 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally those under the age of 14, though onset of puberty varies)...."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

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THIS IS A PEDO STORY AND SHOULD BE REMOVED.
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What do YOU have to say about the matter, Ejls?...
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We can write and read about 13 yr olds discovering. We cannot write about the 30 yr old hot teacher and his 14 yr old sex interest.

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There is a major difference Joe between Pedophilia and Ephebophilia, learn the difference.
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There is a major difference Joe between Pedophilia and Ephebophilia, learn the difference.
I know the difference, asswipe.

This IS a pedo story.

According to Wikipedia.

According to Ejls.

And---with regard to those who actually do such things---according to LEAs.

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According to the text....

The boy couldn't have been much older than thirteen himself.
I have just re-read the story and cannot find that sentence anywhere in it, Joe. It must be your imagination. BTW - you have to READ the story, you cannot simply search the webpage for the words because they are embedded in an image.

Another minor point, the name Joe is a rather common name, isn't it? The only place where you can find any reference to your SPECIFIC screen name in the entire document is when the kids say "mom and dad nice and uncle Joe dirty."

Are you sure that you are not simply being over sensitive?
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I read the story from beginning to end (the ages were mentioned on the last page). While this story does not promote pedophilia, the acts are mentioned. The words I used when the new guidelines were announced and have been thrown in my face to the point where they have left bruises.

I discussed this with smcaaphd who agreed the story should be pulled. ELP has requested that the thread remain, but the jpeg of the story be removed. I have honored that request.
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This story was modified, by me, to be more compliant to the current story guidelines. My thanks go to the moderators for allowing me to keep this socially important story on the forum.
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This story was modified, by me, to be more compliant to the current story guidelines. My thanks go to the moderators for allowing me to keep this socially important story on the forum.

Not too sure about "socially important" Emmerson and it remains as subtle as the brick through the window.

It is and will remain an attack on Joe Dirty. An attack I believe to be long overdue. This member has been branding anyone who enjoys "young" stories as a pedophile and now he is getting some of his own medicine back.

Enjoying it Joe?

No?

Sucks, right?

Well how do you think all us other not pedophiles feel when you try to smear us?
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It's now been modified to the point where the original attack upon me falsely accusing me of being a practicing pedo who wanted to molest my own prepubescent nieces and nephews is L-O-S-T.

What was once a sharp knife that you tried to stab into my back is now one that's so dull that it can't cut shit.

I WIN.

YOU LOSE.

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It's now been modified to the point where the original attack upon me falsely accusing me of being a practicing pedo who wanted to molest my own prepubescent nieces and nephews is L-O-S-T.

What was once a sharp knife that you tried to stab into my back is now one that's so dull that it can't cut shit.

I WIN.


YOU LOSE.
The only real winners here were the poor children who were rescued from the pedo clutches of their vile uncle.
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ELP & Joe,

You two playground bullies had better put each other on Ignore. I'm done with the both of you. Your little quarrel spiraled out of control. If you want to keep fighting, find a mod who cares, because I don't anymore.

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The only real winners here were the poor children who were rescued from the pedo clutches of their vile uncle.
"Pedo clutches"?

Are you trying to say that it's STILL a pedo story?

Hmmmmmmm?

Or might you just want to retract that statement that one could perhaps use against you?

Hmmmmmmm?


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You two playground bullies had better put each other on Ignore. I'm done with the both of you. Your little quarrel spiraled out of control. If you want to keep fighting, find a mod who cares, because I don't anymore.

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It's got to be the heat. Put a cold facecloth on your forehead and just lay back with a cold drink and relax. You have some comfort-time coming.
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As others have done, here's a link to this story on the sex story site...


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^^^ Link to rule violating pedo story reported.
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Not too sure about "socially important" Emmerson and it remains as subtle as the brick through the window.

It is and will remain an attack on Joe Dirty. An attack I believe to be long overdue. This member has been branding anyone who enjoys "young" stories as a pedophile and now he is getting some of his own medicine back.

Enjoying it Joe?

No?

Sucks, right?

Well how do you think all us other not pedophiles feel when you try to smear us?
The only ones that I branded with a "P" on their chest for "pedo" were the actual pedos.

As I've stated countless times...to get off to pedo sex stories one must have a pedo "fetish" (i.e., have a sexual attraction to underage children).

No person who is normal (i.e., doesn't have a sexual attraction to underage children) would seek out such stories and jerk off to them. A normal person finds such stories to be vomit-inducing and NOT boner-inducing.

OTOH EL-P attempted to brand me with a "P"...even attempting to brand me with "PP" (practicing pedo)...but he FAILED. He failed because I'm NOT a sick fuck pedophile...either the practicing (criminal) kind or just the fucked up in the head kind.

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You ought to be glad that you didn't post this rule violating (i.e., "no pedo stories") link in a PM! If you had then you'd be living in Ban Land with Carrie right now!



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Here's the thing Joe, is this story a poke at you? It would seem to look that way. Is it right to attack another member? Not really.

I would have stood by your side and helped you fight against someone who attacked you if you were any other member. But you Joe prevoke these attacks and are so hypocritical that it makes the rest of us not care.

Your such a narcissus that you really think your right all the time and no one else's oppinion matters. When someone pulls facts off the Internet or disagrees with you you call them asswipe and tell them to fuck off.

Now lets look at the story Elp wrote, yes its a story about young kids but its depicting abuse. Its not saying that the relationship between the children and the uncle was a good thing it was a story about bad things that happen to children.

Now here's the part that you don't seem to understand Joe, not everyone reads everything to jerk off. I read lots of well written stories on this site dealing with lots of topics. I feel some of the best stories I've ever read are on this site.

With that said I didn't get excited over this one as I don't get excited for abuse or rape stories but I read it anyway. The great thing about reading Joe is you can like things that you not into in real life.

Try putting down the laptop pulling up your pants and walking out of your moms basement and meeting a live girl. They're kind of soft and fun. Then maybe you wouldn't think all girls at 18 look like the 11 year old looking girls who's pics you exploit by reposting them on your thread.

Did you ever stop and wonder what those live girls felt as people took their pics? Not all young girl do it willingly some are tricked or drugged and you add to the exploitation by trolling for new shots.

That is why I call you hypocrite Joe. The young girls in our stories are not real. They are words no one was objectified for you to read them. If you don't like the stories move on to a different site as people will continue to write and you can't stop it.
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+1 to everything you wrote, Dizzy!

Some people just don't get it -- that place where reality ends and fiction begins.

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Pretty sure this is a typo (narcissist -- self-centered v. narcissus -- flower).

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Your right it was a typo. Some times my kindle corrects and I don't catch it.
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I thought maybe it was a veiled insult, you calling Joe a flower.

My bad. ** snort, chuckle **
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I thought maybe it was a veiled insult, you calling Joe a flower.

My bad. ** snort, chuckle **

As funny as that would be, out of all the words in the dictionary "flower" would probably be the last on my list if I was looking for one to define Joe. I don't mean that in a malicious way just that I don't see him as a flower. more like a weed.

He's kind of like that one weed in the middle of a perfect lawn that you just can't stop staring at and it drives you crazy. You can stomp on it or spray weed remover it and it just will not go away, it just sits there driving you insane and as much as you try not to look you can't help it.

That's how I think of Joe.
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As funny as that would be, out of all the words in the dictionary "flower" would probably be the last on my list if I was looking for one to define Joe. I don't mean that in a malicious way just that I don't see him as a flower. more like a weed.

He's kind of like that one weed in the middle of a perfect lawn that you just can't stop staring at and it drives you crazy. You can stomp on it or spray weed remover it and it just will not go away, it just sits there driving you insane and as much as you try not to look you can't help it.

That's how I think of Joe.
We've been going about this all wrong. Maybe if we just spray Round-up on him... ?
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We've been going about this all wrong. Maybe if we just spray Round-up on him... ?

Round up isn't enough for weeds that tough, does anyone have a blow torch?
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Son. Of. A. Bitch.

You peeps aren't worth the trouble that it would take to piss on you if you were on fire. It would be too much of a waste of piss.

I post a sarcastic post which points out just how being liked gets one a free ride when it comes to the Ban Hammer around here. A poster named Carrie posts a link to something that violates a rule (i.e., a beast porn pic) IN A PM...and she gets banned because she isn't liked. But when EL-P posts a link to something that violates a rule (i.e., no pedo stories) IN A PUBLIC FORUM...he gets to stay because for some fucked up reason I'll never understand he's liked.

What is the response to this unassailable logic? A refutation of my chief point? Nope.

It's the SOS. Posts where posters IGNORE my point, bring up completely unrelated things, and engage in personal attacks.
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Posts where posters IGNORE my point, bring up completely unrelated things, and engage in personal attacks.
What are you talking about? What you just described is your whole MO, I explained the difference about what his story was about and the tone of it if you would have paid attention.

Let me explain again since you don't seem to understand as your posting the SOS yourself has proved. You are simply a one note chump who can't see past his tired point.

Elp did write a story about teens, which isn't pedo by the way its ephebo, that depicts abuse to children. It didn't paint the sexual abuse as a good thing, it also didn't paint the picture that the children wanted or liked what happened to them.

The point is this happens in real life and Elp wrote a story about it not as a "Spank story" but as an abuse story.

Yes Elp obviously used your likeness as the abusive uncle and could be seen as an attack on you, but heres the point, you've attacked so many people on this website you've lost most of the people who would support you.

By your own attacks on all of us writers who have had story lines with teens in them you have alienated the very people who would help you. You act like your better then the rest of us for something your into yourself and that makes you worse. You add to the problem Joe not us.

This time how about actually reading what people are telling you before coming back and posting the SOS about how your the victim and Elp is the bad man who broke rules, we've heard it, get over yourself and just stop.
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Now we're making up the rules as we go along, aren't we?

The original rule was "No pedo stories."

Now it's "Pedo stories are ok (in the fuckin' Sex Stories section of a fuckin' porn forum) as long as one can't jerk off to them."



EL-P's link is to the original, unedited version of the story. You know the one.... It's the one that was REMOVED by a Mod and then allowed to be resubmitted when EL-P edited it (allegedly) to fit in with the forum guidelines. Hence he has a link to a REMOVED story which violates forum guidelines.
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Now we're making up the rules as we go along, aren't we?

The original rule was "No pedo stories."

Now it's "Pedo stories are ok (in the fuckin' Sex Stories section of a fuckin' porn forum) as long as one can't jerk off to them."



EL-P's link is to the original, unedited version of the story. You know the one.... It's the one that was REMOVED by a Mod and then allowed to be resubmitted when EL-P edited it (allegedly) to fit in with the forum guidelines. Hence he has a link to a REMOVED story which violates forum guidelines.

Then what the hell are you still bitching about? If the original post was found to be wrong and the mods did their job and took it down why are you still crying about it?

If the story was aloud to return with some editing and the mods don't have a problem with the new one then it's their job to review it not yours. By the way no not all stories are ment to "Spank" to, get out more and or read more and you will understand the world better.

Like I've said before, you might have had a point that some people could get behind with this but your own attacks and your constant name calling and bitching have made people not like you.

If there is favoritism here it's partly because during this whole thing over the last few weeks I've found that you, yourself have made people not like you.

You make people not like you by your words, double standard and hypocritical attacks on people, some of who would be your friend.

Let it go already and stop crying, you used to post things that people enjoyed talking about then you started all this crying and temper tantrums. Let it go and get back to talking about something interesting.
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I do sometimes wonder what kind of crazy thing that zany Joe will come up with next.

I know I used to get a kick out of his sense of humor before all this started and I feel like if he can finally let all this drop then we can all get back to the way it was. If this continues then he will lose everyone who would care to read and comment on his topics.

This has gone on long enough and I would personally like to see him go back the the funny topic guy I enjoyed reading when I first signed up on this site.

I hope it's not to late to let that happen.
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You're either a dumbass who can't understand the basic concept of reading comprehension...or you're a troll just trying to wind me up...or you're one of EL-P's socks.

Can you not read what I wrote?

THE LINK IS TO THE REMOVED "PEDO" VERSION OF THE STORY.

JUST ONE FUCKIN' CLICK WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE STORY THAT WAS REMOVED.

When Carrie allegedly did that sort of shit IN A PM...HER ASS WAS BANNED.

But...

When EL-P does the SAME BASIC THING IN AN OPEN FORUM (NOT a PM)...HE GETS TO STAY.

Only a person who is WILLINGLY BLIND would fail to see the favoritism and hypocrisy.
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You're either a dumbass who can't understand the basic concept of reading comprehension...or you're a troll just trying to wind me up...or you're one of EL-P's socks.

Can you not read what I wrote?

THE LINK IS TO THE REMOVED "PEDO" VERSION OF THE STORY.

JUST ONE FUCKIN' CLICK WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE STORY THAT WAS REMOVED.

When Carrie allegedly did that sort of shit IN A PM...HER ASS WAS BANNED.

But...

When EL-P does the SAME BASIC THING IN AN OPEN FORUM (NOT a PM)...HE GETS TO STAY.


Only a person who is WILLINGLY BLIND would fail to see the favoritism and hypocrisy.

Blah blah blah blah SOS. Why are you still crying about this? Are you physically incapable of letting things go?

Did YOU not read what I wrote about how your attitude created favoritism? Your constant cry baby posts are making people not like you. Your name calling and attacks on people is what made Elp write you into the story in the first place.

You were attacking and fighting with people before the story appeared and one person retaliates against you and you spend weeks throwing a temper tantrum and crying like a child.

Get over yourself Joe, all this can only end when you move on, until then everyone will continue to fight this pointless battle with you.

Let it go and get back to the Joe of the past who was fun to post with and had something real to say other then bitching.
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I'm NOT even talking about people not liking ME, you dumfuck in need of a Reading Comprehension class.

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I know I used to get a kick out of his sense of humor before all this started and I feel like if he can finally let all this drop then we can all get back to the way it was. If this continues then he will lose everyone who would care to read and comment on his topics.

This has gone on long enough and I would personally like to see him go back the the funny topic guy I enjoyed reading when I first signed up on this site.

I hope it's not to late to let that happen.
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I do sometimes wonder what kind of crazy thing that zany Joe will come up with next.


I would like it to be known that I do not in the least appreciate your pathetic efforts to undermine what I wrote on the other thread. It must by now be fairly obvious to anyone with two brain cells that Dizzy is ELP's sock. These two posts simply repeat what I wrote elsewhere and are nothing more than an attempt to enflame the situation.

Please do not expect me to support your infantile attacks on Joe from now on. I tried to calm the situation but you have thrown it back in my face. Play out your childish games as you will.
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[/SIZE][/FONT][/I]I would like it to be known that I do not in the least appreciate your pathetic efforts to undermine what I wrote on the other thread. It must by now be fairly obvious to anyone with two brain cells that Dizzy is ELP's sock. These two posts simply repeat what I wrote elsewhere and are nothing more than an attempt to enflame the situation.

Please do not expect me to support your infantile attacks on Joe from now on. I tried to calm the situation but you have thrown it back in my face. Play out your childish games as you will.


Hector it wasn't my intention to throw anything in your face, I truly do hope that all this will come to an end soon. I've been saying since the first thread that this all started that we need to stop responding and just stop this whole arguement.

But as time went by things seemed to me to be getting worse and I weighed in on the whole thing. I did used to read Joe's posts before I had a user name and started writing on the forums. I used to think he was actually funny and had good topics.

The problem is this whole thing has blown out of hand for a lot of people and I think that the only person who can make it all stop is Joe. In maybe a backwards way I've been challenging him lately to show him that really he is no different from the rest of us and to just stop all the crying and bitching.

If you look at all my posts see how many times I tell him to let it go and just stop fighting. I really believe that because Joe started the arguement that eveyone will continue to fight him until he stops posting about it and moves on to the next thing. There is no clear winner in this fight and it's up to him to move on.

I took a different approch with this fight and agreed with your post about getting back to the way things were to support you not make fun of you but you seem to want to be as argumentative and name calling as Joe.

Hector I've got no problem with you but if you want to start fighting with me then bring it on, if anyone here is a sock look in the mirror, your the one who admits to using proxies to get in the forum and admit being banned. Maybe before you start thowing stones you should look where they're landing. I would rather not fight with you but if you continue with the name calling and what not I won't sit on my hands and say nothing.

I came here to this site to write my stoies and join in on forum conversations when I had something to say but got caught up in all this too but you call me a sock because I support you and generally believe Elp wants to see this come to an end too.

I don't know if Elp meant what he said about the old Joe but I did and I really would like to believe that he just wants it to stop so he can move on with his life too.

Pick your fights more carefully and try to realize when someone is supporting your ideas and not making fun of you. You know nothing about me so next time how about you PM me and ask what my motivation is before condemning me.
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