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Old 07-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #51
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Hello clarise , Checked out some more of your poems.. And I must say.. They are very interesting

Keep up the good work. And please don't feel bad for bumping me.. lol It's quite alright.. I just write to release and if people do read my thread.. I'm just grateful they enjoy my poems.

Oh and a little advice to help you along.. Just learn to ignore some of the critics of this site.. The less you pay mind to them, The easier it is to just write as you see fit. well take care hun and keep writing..
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How can I possibly top this?

Let's see.

i weah a hood
i think iz wize
dat gaddam kat
pisst in my eyz
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I hope this one is enjoyable:

Upon the still waters the swan does sail,
Casting eternal her eyes upon the clouds above,
Once her heart held to another,
Now his voice silent and still,
Yet with each cry of their young around her,
She recalls the love that allows all to be fulfilled.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:56 PM   #55
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I dance among the clouds,
Soaring where only dreams do enfold,
All here is reality to me,
All in here is where I am free,
I am what I wish to be,
I encompass all that I see,
To sail this great and vast sea,
Is to tell all that I am me,
And with the dawn of the new day,
"I am me," is all that I need to say.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:03 AM   #56
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I dance among the clouds,
Soaring where only dreams do enfold,
All here is reality to me,
All in here is where I am free,
I am what I wish to be,
I encompass all that I see,
To sail this great and vast sea,
Is to tell all that I am me,
And with the dawn of the new day,
"I am me," is all that I need to say.
That is beautiful. Just pray to the deity of your choice that Azriel doesn't see it.
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It's odd to say
She feels the same
A summer's breeze
Is all I need
To wish away
My yesterdays
My possiblies
My couldn't bes
My never was
Is just because
Of what I knew
I didn't do


I should have done
My only one
I'd gladly give
this life to live
Away to see
You beautifully
Like in my dreams
Gold-laden strings


How pretty too
When I knew you
A candle's flame
Whispers your name
And on the wind
A new begin
To every end
I can't pretend


That we are through
Why did I go?
A part of you
I'll never know
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That is beautiful. Just pray to the deity of your choice that Azriel doesn't see it.
Clarise - why should Azriel not see it?
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Clarise - why should Azriel not see it?

Because he just might respond, in his own inimitable fashion.

I get his humor and enjoy it. Most don't, and do not.
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Shaped verse. Lots of structure, sycopation, and cool false rhymes (if you're into "Academic/literary" poetry, which I suppose few are). Also, the last section ("0" / evening gently falls) has very complex rhythm with interior rhymes. Use the XNXX-Blue style to get the shaped verse effect.

One last remark: this is one of the poems that appears in the "Greta's Diary" cycle, and thus it will be appearing in the e-book I am currently preparing for Amazon. The shaped verse poems have been the biggest challenge, because older Kindles are awful with poetry. The new Kindle Fire, however, renders the poem almost exactly like this, and I am quite pleased.

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countdown
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2
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______no time for born
______no time for grow
______no time for love
______no time for life
______no time for rush
______no time for fall
______no time for dead
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___________an alarm clock corrupts my dreams
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________dawn
________damn
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______traffic horns scream
______
____________truisms
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____another monday
____another oneday
____another anyday
____another lieday
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________oh please god
________don’t make me
________survive again
________don’t make me
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______so many cars get to crash against poles
______so many lightning bolts strike just right
______so many card houses are picked up and
______carried away by gentle accommodating winds
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______the angel of death
______has broken the spell
______his mouth has razors
______he has chewed my eyelids off
______with his razors
______he has taken me
______he has taken me bodily
______he has gutted your beloved
______in our garden
______and raped me with reality
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______faith is masochism
______faith is misdirected deference
______faith puts my womb in cold sweats
______faith reduces gods to beggars
___________haggard and threadbare
___________the serpent is the lamb
______jesus tears his palms on the nails
______and a shriven trinity sheds futile tears
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______faith drips upon floorboards
___________seeps between cracks
___________weeps in cold basements
___________where no one can see
______faith the ravishing tempest
___________the emotive softvoiced incubus
___________the languid smiling whispering rapist
___________we usher in with lovelorn lustblind foolishness
______faith screams its disillusion
______faith bleeds wrath upon the oblivious
___________faith shatters plateglass with its interminable dirge:
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______i hate you
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_______evening gently falls upon
_______a silent wake that trails behind
_______my everlasting timeless faith
_______propelled by torn and threadbare sails
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_______I measure unremitting paces
_______circling ‘round the quarterdeck
_______from fore to aft and back and then
_______adrift bereft to weep again
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_______insomnolent in pools of sweat
_______that soak into these cedar boards
_______beneath my fevered shaking limbs
_______from dusk to dawn a progress toward
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_______degenerating confidence
_______habitual indifference
_______and I’ve been told these countless years
_______that changes come, the changes come
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_______from day to day and year to year
_______and life to life all living things
_______above and underneath the placid
_______cool and lucent, soft green sea:
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Update on Beauty. Almost there. Working on the table of contents (converting it to XML).

I've hit all kinds of wacky delays.

The latest: non-breaking hyphens. In the conversion from MS Word to HTML, about four hundred non-breaking hyphens disappeared, because they are MS Word objects-- not characters. So I had to hunt down all the omissions and add them manually.

That is done.

Now the table of contents, and after that I should be able to put it up. Perhaps a week or two. (It is summer, after all.)
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Update on Beauty. Almost there. Working on the table of contents (converting it to XML).

I've hit all kinds of wacky delays.

The latest: non-breaking hyphens. In the conversion from MS Word to HTML, about four hundred non-breaking hyphens disappeared, because they are MS Word objects-- not characters. So I had to hunt down all the omissions and add them manually.

That is done.

Now the table of contents, and after that I should be able to put it up. Perhaps a week or two. (It is summer, after all.)
That IS exciting news. A lot of hard work is about to pay-off and I am happy for you. It will be great to see it there.
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Clarise, not familiar with your work but what I've just read, I would be remiss to not explore more...well done. Thank you.
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Clarise, not familiar with your work but what I've just read, I would be remiss to not explore more...well done. Thank you.

Thank you for reading my poems. I am pleased that you enjoyed them.
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The longest poem in the "Greta's Diary" cycle. Blue-X page style, please.

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river

_____
_____a minor key dirge tears from cellos
_____stored in dark closets;
_________________________a chest of drawers
_____resonates dolorous strains
_____from within my heart:
_________________________anticipation
_____of a trance broken like an unseen
_____falling of leaves or a perchance
_____shifting of air, anticlimactic;
______________________________natural,
_____most natural, fully expected, as
_____surely as autumn rains fall upon
_____damp stones in early evening;
_________________________________after all these years
_____of waiting and dreading
_____I can weep with neither relief
_____nor mourning for the tragedy;
_________________________________the spell
_____that has guided my every breath,
_____that has robbed opportunities,
_____that has been life and a giver of light
_____seems now powerless to hold a feather,
_____a weightless chain,
_____steel links dissolved and dispersed,
_____cast aside, discarded like tissue paper;
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_____measureless lunar opulence gently adorns
_____a rippling lake in the verdant forest,
_____place of nightdreams where my heart
_____has sustained a deep fire of rosewood
_____and crackling oboes all this time;

_____upon moss and lichen covered stones
_____I have wept with the irrepressible
_____anticipation of joy
_____a subliminal yearning for an abiding memory
_____of briefly shared love;
_________________________clocks, bells, time
_____have marched forth in grand cadence
_____and with no urgency as I have pondered
_____upon ruminations of eventual fruition;

_____shrouded in faded denim and sunflowers
_____poised on a vertiginous whirlwind
_____sweet with transubstantiation
_____and bass note temblors
_____the cellos plumb the depths of my heart
_____with their sonorous transparency,
_____that on this evening a magical spell
_____has inexplicably broken
_____that the slow whalesong
_____has faltered midnote;
_________________________the river purls
_____in the umber cavities
_____a bitterly relinquished gasp
_____and in the cobalt waters I gaze
_____into your limitless eyes
_____into the new emptiness,
_____intent upon reminiscence
_____of dreams and kept secrets:
_______________________________ice hot sublimity,
_____a perfect circle, boundless,
_____captured in the souls
_____of cloudy translucent stones,
_____love subsumed caged edified deified
_____framed in a moment of immutable sanctity;

_____late summer afternoon:
___________________________hands touched
_____ever so briefly, as all existence
_____watched the gentle progress
_____of affection’s transformation
_____to love;
_____________we traversed the uneven ground
_____past the deep twisted elms
_____rhododendron caverns
_____endless horse runs
_____our lips paralyzed by that
_____depthless kiss
_____imbued with honey, sage, and rose
_____generated a radiant light
_____cast through limitless perspectives
_____yielding to emerald brilliance;
_________________________________upon
_____an afternoon of blue
_____your feet kissed the stones
_____the worn roots, the creased grassblades
_____as your gold rings grew warm in my hand;
_____your fingers curled in my palm;
__________________________________my hand caressed
_____your thumb as I hovered,
_____cognizant only of your hair
_____as it exuded lingering centuries in its wake;

_____fate would preclude us
_____with all its witless obstinacy
_____from stepping wearily off this earth
_____and into each other’s arms
_____and we must necessarily grow old
_____upon different worlds, forever restless
_____forever muttering forsaken prayers
_____into the last murmurs that preface sleep
_____forever to light votive candles
_____for a lost love,
___________________forever to wonder
_____forever to dream the unspoken dreams
_____of unfulfilled promise,
___________________________sanctity left
_____forever in its nascence
_____a stillborn beauty never to achieve
_____sublimation,
__________________doomed to wither
_____on dessicated hardscratch
_____forever to metabolize the same stale breath
_____that mutters in its exhalations
_____a hoarse whispered trinity:

_____heaven vaults the horizons into early morning.
_____the fire burns down to embers
_____over a fitful sleep,
_______________________and the afterglow
_____the orange dust,
_____________________gradually rises
_____carried aloft like a swarm of fireflies
_____that glide effortlessly upon the swells
_____beating their transparent wings
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______________ever higher,
__________________________ever higher,
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_____fading into the still dawn,
_____and as morning approaches we will have awoken
_____each of us in our disparate worlds
_____back from tear dispersed sojourns
_____feet hard upon the realworld
_____and as I arise I curl my toes
_____in the damp charcoal loam
_____to sigh amid the drudgery of real caresses
_____abandoned by dispersed dreams,
___________________________________cast away
_____left adrift upon a fast and quickening river
_____my heart attuned to the resonance
_____of the departed cadence as it echoes
_____the rapidly diminishing incantation:
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____._________ love
______________ tao
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Update on Beauty.

Ready to go. We just cleared the last formatting hurdle, a minor technical snag that has turned into a major pain in the tuckus and had us going for weeks.

In the end, we determined that we had identified a bug in Amazon's new Kindle e-publishing compiler, and we have come up with an old fashioned workaround that fixes the problem.

Beauty contains, here and there, call-outs with text. Colored boxes that hold "signs."

One such sign says, "Play the Chess Master! Two minutes, $2.00!"

Another sign, a very important one in terms of the plot, says, NO EVACUATION POSSIBLE.

Those of you who have read my posts might have seen these signs now and again, because we have worked out a way to format call-out boxes for posting on VBulletin forums, and now and again I use them in stories and even in my sig.

In fact, the "Chess Master" sign might even be on the board, buried deep... hold on, I'll check....

Pay dirt! Here it is!!!

┌────────────────────────┐
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_Play the Chess Master!_
___Two minutes, $2.00___
________________________
└────────────────────────┘
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If this call-out looks weird, with lines through it, go to the bottom left of this screen and pick the Blue-X style.

Our goal has been to isolate boxes like this on an otherwise white screen, for emphasis, and to wrap them vertically and horizontally, so that they stand alone. Something like this:

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┌────────────────────────┐
________________________
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___Two minutes, $2.00___
________________________
└────────────────────────┘
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Centering and isolating text is easy to do here in XNXX, but the callout box is nearly impossible to do here. Very tricky.

On a Kindle Fire, the opposite is apparently the case. The box is easy, but centering/isolating it is difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. We know it is possible, because I already have a novel on Amazon that has a centered, isolated callout in the text.

Theoretically it should be a piece of cake, because the KF device is supposed to be HTML5 compatible. This means one should be able to create colored callout boxes and center them with the latest CSS styling and HTML5 tags.

But we have found that HTML5 and CSS do not work. To make this work, one must nest at least two "div" tags. One to color the box and give it a border, and an outer "div" to center and isolate the box on the page.

But the Kindle E-book compiler (KindleGen Version has a bug that prevents this. The inner "div" breaks the outer "div." The call-out box does appear, but it refuses to center. The outer "div" is broken, so the call-out box appears at the top left corner of the page.

After weeks of struggling with this-- it seems like a minor thing, but the callouts really are important for the narrative-- we have finally found a workaround that "tricks" Amazon's KindleGen-8 to bypass the bug and render the call-out correctly, with horizontal and vertical centering.

To do it, we strip most of the nifty new HTML5/CSS styling from the outer "div", and in its place we use an ancient HTML1 tag that is not even supposed to be supported on browsers anymore: <CENTER>.

The old-fashioned <CENTER> tag does what HTML5/CSS cannot on the KindleGen compiler: it produces a call-out box that has background color and a solid border, yet appears correctly in the horizontal center of the page.

To center it vertically, we use another ancient technique that has been frowned upon for more than ten years: we "pad" the call-out box with a "clear-space GIF" image of suitable height. (This is an image that is completely transparent. All it does is take up space, so that the call-out box will appear to be centered.)

Now that this workaround is complete, all systems are go. If time allows, Nascent's sequel will be going up on Amazon some time next week.
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Nightime fills the sails of my ship,
Through the sea of stars do I slip,
Here I am all that one can become,
And I will seek that which is to come.

So it is between the time of one lone star,
I catch myself on my ship, and journey afar,
Time passes so, so still,
Yet each discovery is a thrill.

Gossamer mists my mind retains,
Yet hope still is the main.
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Another long one. In five parts. If you see ugly blue lines in the verse, choose the Blue-X style.
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rumination
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_______________summer evening
_________the river and lawn shimmer
__________gentle convection evokes
______whispers and glancing touches
_____fragile as crystal
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_________in retrospect
_____memories smooth and meld
_______________to an amorphous sublimity
__________as choppy seas seem to do
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Very good peice, most of all with depth, show more soon. Your own style, like It.
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Very good peice, most of all with depth, show more soon. Your own style, like It.

Sheesh.

A new registrant to the site, with just nine posts, and you have given me one of the most positive compliments on this thread. Whoever you are, thank you. Thank you very much.


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I hope you don't mind me posting this here.

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Assemble the morning
From last night's misplaced thoughts
Ruminations I dare not dwell upon
Purely out of fear
That those memories might haunt me
Until forever slips away
On the wings of yesterday

I touched your skin
Delicately through your shirt
In my drunken state
And felt what I'd longed for
Smelt the embodiment of heaven
A summery delight seasoned with dryer sheets
And freshly cut blades of grass

You were laying
Across from me on a chair
So inviting
But I thought better of it
Though I wanted more
To taste your ripe succulent peach
And sink my tongue as deep as it would go

I respected you too much
To take advantage of this opportunity
And let your vulnerability seduce me

When you rose and came over
My heart skipped a beat
My mind drew a blank
My palms were sweaty
And I couldn't speak
I knew that I wanted
Everything that you were
For myself
And I still do
If you'd just give me a chance
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clarise, your creative talent for poem is exceeded only by your excellent talent for prose and nobody can exceed you in either endeavour. You have yet to disappoint.
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Not at all!

Like so many poems, this one is an address to a beloved.

The second stanza is the best in terms of technique.
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Not at all!

Like so many poems, this one is an address to a beloved.

The second stanza is the best in terms of technique.
I see what you mean. It imparts a clearer idea of what it is meant to say.
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OK... so maybe this will come off as psycho-babble, but does your brain ever "change" when you're reading poetry (especially in different styles and formats from more than one author)? Like it's trying to be a bit more open than usual to the nuances and flavors and visions and abstracts that will come through as you read?

Well, I was in just that zone until I came to this line:

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...about four hundred non-breaking hyphens disappeared...
... which I read as "four hundred non-breaking hymens disappeared".

Good efforts with your poetry, folks ... maybe I'll dig up something to contribute one of these days... but, for now, I think I need a nap.

No... wait a minute...

Four hundred virgins were gone from their beds
Their mothers and fathers sat scratching their heads

Had they fled to find lovers, or run off to seek
A Spring Break vacation that lasts for a week?

Will they come back as chaste and as pure as before
Or did we lose a daughter but gain us a whore?

When a few weeks had passed, they returned to their huts
"So sorry Mom and Dad, but we choose to be sluts"!

Now they will never find husbands for whom to clean and cook
They should never have been allowed to read that "Beauty" book!


See? I TOLD you I need a nap! *groan*
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Very good peice, most of all with depth, show more soon. Your own style, like It.

No problem yw clarise. It actually made my day, how my little comment meant that much to you. I also write as well when I feel like It, word painter/wordsmith/word wizard (also a flawed-perfectionist so a gifted curse of ambition?) lol . I just love to play with words, especially for creative depth. Passion of Ideas, wrapped within sheets of creativity, Is a beautiful thing.

Do you tend to write one sort of way dark/light etc? I personally do my own thing. I feel too much focus on format can be a limitation for me. Never compromise! Imo, balance on your own terms with a reader!. I'll check out for more. Tc
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Some really nice work here, Clarise. We may never agree politically but poetically there could be some hope.

Here's one of mine from a few years ago:

Waiting . . .

Know that it is not the darkness which defines me,
Any more than it defines the night,
Or the majestic sweep of the firmament.

It is not the darkness but the shining points of light
Which, but for the inky black,
We would never know.

Where shines the light, shines life, hope, and . . .

Perhaps . . .

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Some really nice work here, Clarise. We may never agree politically but poetically there could be some hope.

Here's one of mine from a few years ago:

Waiting . . .

Know that it is not the darkness which defines me,
Any more than it defines the night,
Or the majestic sweep of the firmament.

It is not the darkness but the shining points of light
Which, but for the inky black,
We would never know.

Where shines the light, shines life, hope, and . . .

Perhaps . . .

Love.

Not bad, not bad at all. Too much "amateur" poetry reads like Rod McKuen. Yours does not.

Thanks for your remarks. You are one of the brighter bulbs perched on the "progressive" fence over in GD, so your post means a lot to me.

My books have sex, which is why they have an audience here, but they are not porn. (And some of the poems on this thread are actually in the second novel, as diary sequences.)

The books are long, but you might like them. Read three paragraphs on this thread. You'll either be hooked, or you'll dismiss them. Can't please everyone, but I have a hunch you'll reach paragraph four.
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I read the first two chapters of your story. It has a plotline with some interesting possibilities and I'll read more of it later.
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Meanwhile, try this non-Rod McKuen sounding poem:

Darkness Falls

Walking twisted paths of fear
In clinging mists of shadows tear
Of mem'ry past and future dream
And hold within my mind a scream.
Time before in my heart calls
And what's to come, as darkness falls?

My house is empty, no one there,
And no sound moves the vacant air.
The stairway lined with webs and dust.
The pipes are filled with dirt and rust.
I move alone through silent halls
Through soul and spirit as darkness falls.

A single star through window shines
And shows a path that turns and winds
Through weed grown yard and broken gate
That guards this place of evil fate.
A black bird flies beyond these walls
And wings away as darkness falls.
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Meanwhile, try this non-Rod McKuen sounding poem:

Darkness Falls

Walking twisted paths of fear
In clinging mists of shadows tear
Of mem'ry past and future dream
And hold within my mind a scream.
Time before in my heart calls
And what's to come, as darkness falls?

My house is empty, no one there,
And no sound moves the vacant air.
The stairway lined with webs and dust.
The pipes are filled with dirt and rust.
I move alone through silent halls
Through soul and spirit as darkness falls.

A single star through window shines
And shows a path that turns and winds
Through weed grown yard and broken gate
That guards this place of evil fate.
A black bird flies beyond these walls
And wings away as darkness falls.


Not bad at all, either.

Iambic Tetrameter with couplets throughout. Thematically distinct from anything McKuen ever wrote (to my knowledge), but quite regularized. That is not a bad thing. Rhyming, metrically strict poetry is much more popular here than free verse. You should check out KnightLover's poems (another thread). His poetry is more consistently metrical than mine.

Speaking of which, thanks for giving my books a try! I asked for just three paragraphs, and you're into the third chapter? Wow!

The books can't please everyone, and people tend to either love or hate them, but I do appreciate that you have given them a chance.
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While I occasionally work for technical correctness in my poetry, it's not a priority. Imagery is the reason I wrote it the way I did. This seemed the best way to get the job done.
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While I occasionally work for technical correctness in my poetry, it's not a priority. Imagery is the reason I wrote it the way I did. This seemed the best way to get the job done.
+1

The technical remarks were not a critique. Just observation.

You are absolutely right. Poetry is communication first and foremost.
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I have been engaging in too much self-aggrandizement on this thread. How about a poem? Blue-X style, please.


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_____________in your absence
_________a chapel with sounding stones
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______________the tiles on the eaves
___________all have names
_clock is the sound
______________they make at sunset
________one is the increment
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Dawn casts forth her shimmering light,
Diamonds respond in glistening delight,

Home I am for all to see,
Awaiting all who may visit me,
So whom shall the first to be,
That will dance with me,'

For my home dances on the morning breath,
While for my guests awaits the hand of death,

Patiently I wait with glistening eyes,
Seeking all that moves across the skies,
I sense near the great, graceful cries,
That of she who is victorious no one denies,

But this day to my home she does seek,
And I shutter, feeling so, so weak,

And so I the hunter do cry,
Deaths hand meets me as from her I do die.

- The spider and the hummingbird.
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Two paths wander,
Emeald greens,
Sapphire blues,
Rubies of richest hues,
Whites as such they have never seen.

Two paths do cross,
Contemplation,
Curiosity,
Wonderment,
Wishes made,

One holds forth a hand,
Invitation silently given,
Smile glistening,
Ears and heart listening,
Desires so, so wonderfully driven,

One of glistening fires,
Silent,
Still,
Gives in to the desires.

In one moment all becomes clear,
A wonderment so, so very near,
A moment so precious and dear,
For both with curiosity and not fear.

The song is sweet and crisp,
A giggle gentle as a sigh,
Sends the other into the sky,
A dream passed as a wisp.

Forever the two are bound,
She who forever remains on the ground,
She whose home is in the air,
With whom no gem can compare.


A young girl wandering among the flowers of a garden, meets her first hummingbird and it lands upon her offered hand.

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How old is she? Ten?
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Dawn casts forth her shimmering light,
Diamonds respond in glistening delight,

Home I am for all to see,
Awaiting all who may visit me,
So whom shall the first to be,
That will dance with me,'

For my home dances on the morning breath,
While for my guests awaits the hand of death,

Patiently I wait with glistening eyes,
Seeking all that moves across the skies,
I sense near the great, graceful cries,
That of she who is victorious no one denies,

But this day to my home she does seek,
And I shutter, feeling so, so weak,

And so I the hunter do cry,
Deaths hand meets me as from her I do die.

- The spider and the hummingbird.

Very good, until the last line. Don't answer your own riddles! (Or do; to each his own. )
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A young girl wandering among the flowers of a garden, meets her first hummingbird and it lands upon her offered hand.

- Snowleopard.
In our reading of poetry, we ascribe meaning via that with which we are familiar.

To me this is reminiscent of a "boy meets girl" scene in one of my novels, not because it is similar in any way, but because I am currently working with the material. I am fascinated by the notion of one sending one's consciousness, or one's soul, out into the world as an emissary, to assay the landscape. The girl in your poem does something of this sort, in her contemplation of the hummingbird upon her hand.

Here is a character from one of my novels, doing much the same thing, upon her first encounter with the man whom she might be destined to love:
Jessica emerged, hands behind her back, and stepped into the room. He resisted the impulse to rise, because she stood even shorter than her mother. He resolved to remain seated. Apart from that minor decision, he found his cognitive capacity severely degraded by his observation of the million tiny diamonds upon her tied back hair, the sheen of light-motes upon her neck, and the universe reflected in her eyes. She smelled like rain upon leaves, like the forest after a thunderstorm's passing, like seed-crowns teased into waves by an autumnal breeze, like snowflakes captured by eyelashes in nascent winter. Her soul playfully cast its net like a taunt and ensnared him, there where he sat, snatched him up in a gentle cage made of its slender fingers, and regarded him with avid curiosity as he fluttered impotently, at the mercy of its silken fetters. Then her soul released him with an enigmatic smile and retreated to commiserate with the angel herself. The young woman and her soul made a game of their assessment, beguiling and challenging each other with dares, and judged his fate, in devious yet playful conspiracy, while he sat and awaited the outcome of his existence with passive acceptance. He imagined that she had come to some sort of provisional decision as she impulsively shivered, and he had to fight back the compulsion to mimic the reflex sympathetically. She rubbed the damp goosebumps upon her forearms. And then, her musical voice spoke once again. To him. Apparently she and her soul had decided that they would deign to speak to him. For now. Her voice sounded soft and pleasant, yet high, clear, and confident, too.

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Apologies on my part Clairice; I forgot to take out the last lines on both of them before posting. Normally when a poem comes to me, I write a one line description and the words shape around it.

My mess.

I like the passage from your book; thanks for sharing it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:48 AM   #95
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Apologies on my part Clairice; I forgot to take out the last lines on both of them before posting. Normally when a poem comes to me, I write a one line description and the words shape around it.

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I like the passage from your book; thanks for sharing it.
It was a half-hearted chide. I, too, am guilty of explaining myself far too much. As my Mom has always said, "Say it right, the first time!" Of course, there is a difference between "saying it right," and "saying it clearly." The latter is seldom possible in poetry, and is desirable even less so. Good poetry communicates well, but it also beguiles and challenges.
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It was a half-hearted chide. I, too, am guilty of explaining myself far too much. As my Mom has always said, "Say it right, the first time!" Of course, there is a difference between "saying it right," and "saying it clearly." The latter is seldom possible in poetry, and is desirable even less so. Good poetry communicates well, but it also beguiles and challenges.
I understand clearly about the 'good poetry communicates well, but it also beguies and challenges."

My sister said once that men view women like that (the beguiles and challenges part) and then added the caveate: "men are also mostly clueless to ask about stuff as well."

As I have learned - listen to sis as well as mum.

The one about the hummingbird and the little girl I will admit came to me on the spur of a moment. Most people assume its impossible to get a hummingbird to land on ones hand, but you can if you have enough patience and neighbors that do not scream out "thats impossible!" when they see it happen (as it did with me, thus rendering moot instantly eight days of effort).
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Summer dawn,
Moon beholds,
Glittering gems cascade,
To and fro they do play,
Moment of two worlds unite,
Unto a universe of loving delight.

Two hands entwine,
One of yours,
One of mine,
To and fro they do play,
Eye to eye we do see,
What our love soon shall be.
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Slumber filled night,
Shadow moves in casted light,
Move by move,
Step by step,
Nary a whisper passage marks,
Two eyes behold the sky,
Rivers flowing so, so high,
Wonders sought,
Curiosity wrought,
Call of night is heard from afar,
So she responds as if chasing a star,
Into the night she goes,
Mystery in passing that no one knows.
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Diplomacy


Words of anger, minds held closed
Heated speeching, hearts now froze


Flaring tempers, mien alight
Each one knows that he is right


Fingers pointing, gestures made
Voices argue, restraints fade


Rage upstarting, Teeth ground tight
Fingers clench in fists to fight


Each will wish his foe to rout
Is this the way to work things out?
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Snowleopard and Imported_2355, thanks very much for your beautiful poems. This is not just a thread bump. I have neglected this thread, and you should not be the only ones keeping it alive. I will put up a poem of my own momentarily.
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