Another Stolen Story

[Kinkybelle]

I reported that a story of mine that I posted here ('Team Mother') was copied and reposted (as 'Mrs. Chase: The MILF') by AJ_Cook about a month ago. The plagiarized story is still available here.

Now, a second story of mine ('Texting Mom') has been copied and reposted (as Sexting) by ufester2.

This wouldn't bother me if the admins here at XNXX were willing to respond to such incidents in a timely manner. The fact that this doesn't seem to be the case leads me to believe there is little respect here for the writers who are providing them with free content for their site, and that they are content to leave the plagiarized stories in place because it doesn't matter to them that the rightful author is credited, as long as it brings visitors in to the site. This apparent lack of consideration for the writers and their works is very distressing for me.

I had hoped that I had found an ideal outlet for my raunchy stories, but it's beginning to look like this isn't the place for someone who cares about their writing. I put a lot of time, effort, and love into my work and I hate to see it minimized by the incomprehensible stealing that is allowed to go on here. I know this is happening to other writers on the site, which is very unfortunate.

I'm leaving on vacation this weekend for a week. If, when I return, the stolen stories are still available here then I'm afraid I will no longer be able to participate as a writer in the XNXX.com community. I don't want to sound like a whiny brat, but I don't think I'm asking for too much.

Regards,
Kinkybelle

[darthel0101]

Question: are the stories on the story site or on the forums?

If they are on the forums, then you should be able to PM one of the mods for assistance. If they are on the stories site, however, there could be difficulties due to lackadaisical attention being given to that area. HOWEVER, the mods here would probably be the best starting point to get to the other side.

[Dizzyworks673]

I can't believe they did this to you again. The idea of steeling someones story makes me VERY ANGERY!

I don't want to see you leave KB but I would understand 100% if you chose to do so. My only problem if this happened to me would be that I don't know any other site like this that allows you to post and get feedback in the mannor this one does.

I was really angery when someone took SomeStory's story "Three Evil Sissters" and decided to write their own ending to it, I was angry when I heard that you and Daddycums had your stories cut and pasted by someone. I would be livid if it happened to me and I'm sure I wouldn't just stand by and do nothing, so do what you feel is best but please try to work with the mods before you leave us.

To me cutting and pasting someone elses work and putting your name on it is an offence for which one should be drug out into the street and shot. I'm sorry your story was stolen again KB and I really hope this all gets resolved.

[Pandora85]

i actually noticed this the other day when i was looking for something to read and hit the report button

[dogman51]

Belle am soo sorry this has happened to you this is an outrage! If the mods don't look into this I agree with you leaving. I have enjoyed your stories greatly, it would be a big loss as far as i''m concerned.

[Lonelyandlost]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

I can't believe they did this to you again. The idea of steeling someones story makes me VERY ANGERY!

I don't want to see you leave KB but I would understand 100% if you chose to do so. My only problem if this happened to me would be that I don't know any other site like this that allows you to post and get feedback in the mannor this one does.

I was really angery when someone took SomeStory's story "Three Evil Sissters" and decided to write their own ending to it, I was angry when I heard that you and Daddycums had your stories cut and pasted by someone. I would be livid if it happened to me and I'm sure I wouldn't just stand by and do nothing, so do what you feel is best but please try to work with the mods before you leave us.

To me cutting and pasting someone elses work and putting your name on it is an offence for which one should be drug out into the street and shot. I'm sorry your story was stolen again KB and I really hope this all gets resolved.

Don't forget, after that person started writing more to the 3 sisters story (Dusk I think it was who Continued the story) , someone else came in and less then a month after that, and they copy pasted all of it. Somestory's work and the continuation and tried to pass it off as "Here's a story I found that I liked." He also did that to a story that had been posted years earlier but had been reposted just three days before that.

And this story of KB's, this dude didn't even wait 2 days for the final part to just copy paste it all

[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by Lonelyandlost

Don't forget, after that person started writing more to the 3 sisters story (Dusk I think it was who Continued the story) , someone else came in and less then a month after that, and they copy pasted all of it. Somestory's work and the continuation and tried to pass it off as "Here's a story I found that I liked." He also did that to a story that had been posted years earlier but had been reposted just three days before that.

And this story of KB's, this dude didn't even wait 2 days for the final part to just copy paste it all

Bottom line to me is that if you didn't write it you don't have the right to re-post, continue or touch someones story in ANY way.

A lot of readers don't realize the work that gos into a story. The nights your up all night trying to just get the words out of your head. The friends who are sick of hearing you talk about the plot and what happens next.

So when I see someone steel anyones work I view it as a capital crime. I hope the mods can help KB with this issue and we don't have to lose her.

[wantsomefun]

The mods people keep referring to (ejls, Jamie90, and smcaaphd) only have powers here, on the forums. They have nothing whatsoever to do with the Sex Stories site, http://stories.xnxx.com/, and are just other readers and writers there, like the rest of us.

So if the problem is here on the forums, hit the report button (the little exclamation point in a triangle) in the lower left corner of the offending post. That sends you to a field where you state the problem, and when you submit your message, it goes to all three mods automatically. The first one who wakes up or comes home from her real job will deal with it or contact you with questions.

If the problem is on the Sex Stories site, go to the "Contact us" link and plead your case, if you haven't already. Do it daily. Don't threaten, don't caps-lock yell, but state your problem. Just send the same message once a day.

PM our forum mods, also. They don't have the time to keep up with all threads, so they may not have seen this one. State your problem to them, giving links and whatever other pertinent info you have, and ask them to forward a message to the administration. You only have to do this once, and they'll do what they can.

It appears that the Sex Stories site is on autopilot 99.9% of the time, but it generates zero income for the site owners, so they don't fund a lot of man-hours per year for dealing with user concerns.

Good luck. Don't go. We need all the writers we can get.




I'm still amazed by the stupidity of the whole thing. A plagiarist scumbag so dumb that he/she/it re-posts on the same site the story was stolen from. That's like parting-out a stolen car on the street across from the owner's house, or trying to bury a body in the front yard of the police station.

[Lonelyandlost]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

Bottom line to me is that if you didn't write it you don't have the right to re-post, continue or touch someones story in ANY way.

A lot of readers don't realize the work that gos into a story. The nights your up all night trying to just get the words out of your head. The friends who are sick of hearing you talk about the plot and what happens next.

So when I see someone steel anyones work I view it as a capital crime. I hope the mods can help KB with this issue and we don't have to lose her.

Totally agree with you. It's people like this that has stopped me from posting anything else here. I mean to steal a story is bad, but to steal it less then 48 hours after the last chapter was posted is just a total douche move. Then there's the little morons who side with the thief.

It's like they sit in their mom's basement and think. "Gee, no one could have read that story 3 days ago that's still getting high praise and holding a 90+ rating. No one will notice that I "wrote" the same exact story (but with a new title), I'll fool them all!!! MwaHAhahahahaha!!

[Lonelyandlost]

Originally Posted by wantsomefun

I'm still amazed by the stupidity of the whole thing. A plagiarist scumbag so dumb that he/she/it re-posts on the same site the story was stolen from. That's like parting-out a stolen car on the street across from the owner's house, or trying to bury a body in the front yard of the police station.

Some people. Everyone knows you bury the body to the side of the police station. But yeah, taking it from the same site, when some people have a healthy fan base, is just stupid. But like I stated before, Taking it when it's less then three days old is too moronic for words.

[Kinkybelle]

Originally Posted by wantsomefun

It appears that the Sex Stories site is on autopilot 99.9% of the time, but it generates zero income for the site owners, so they don't fund a lot of man-hours per year for dealing with user concerns.

I'm wondering if they've ever considered recruiting some volunteer admins/mods for the story site. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who would be willing to pitch in and help maintain the 'integrity' of the story section.

Originally Posted by wantsomefun

I'm still amazed by the stupidity of the whole thing. A plagiarist scumbag so dumb that he/she/it re-posts on the same site the story was stolen from. That's like parting-out a stolen car on the street across from the owner's house, or trying to bury a body in the front yard of the police station.

I just don't understand the motivation for stealing a story from this site, then reposting it a few days later to the same site (especially when the original is still lingering in the Top Stories section on the front page for all to see!). It would make sense if there was some sort of financial benefit, but how can these dopes be deriving any pleasure from getting a few positive comments from readers who don't know that they're not the real author? Very strange.

[Lonelyandlost]

Originally Posted by Kinkybelle

I'm wondering if they've ever considered recruiting some volunteer admins/mods for the story site. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who would be willing to pitch in and help maintain the 'integrity' of the story section.



I just don't understand the motivation for stealing a story from this site, then reposting it a few days later to the same site (especially when the original is still lingering in the Top Stories section on the front page for all to see!). It would make sense if there was some sort of financial benefit, but how can these dopes be deriving any pleasure from getting a few positive comments from readers who don't know that they're not the real author? Very strange.

Don't forget the comments where people defend what he did.

Now I'll admit, I haven't pulled out my official red marker, like the ones that my old English teacher used to buy in bulk when I went to school, and looked over both for the little changes, but even if he did edit it, like the "Anonymous people" claim, he still stole it. Hell, I swear 90% of the people saying how great it is is just the person that took it.

So far my most fav comment from the past few days is the guy who told the writer how great the story is, but he forgot to log out, so you can see it's the writer saying how great his story was, and people are calling him on that.

Honestly I think the story site has been over-run by teens, like between the ages of 13 to 18 and none of them understand the work that goes into writing a story. Hell, I'd expect to see one of them post Harry Potter, straight from a book, but I think they are too lazy to type that much.

[Dizzyworks673]

[QUOTE=Lonelyandlost;5253288]Don't forget the comments where people defend what he did.

Now I'll admit, I haven't pulled out my official red marker, like the ones that my old English teacher used to buy in bulk when I went to school, and looked over both for the little changes, but even if he did edit it, like the "Anonymous people" claim, he still stole it. Hell, I swear 90% of the people saying how great it is is just the person that took it.

So far my most fav comment from the past few days is the guy who told the writer how great the story is, but he forgot to log out, so you can see it's the writer saying how great his story was, and people are calling him on that.QUOTE]


After reading your post Loney I went and found the story myself, I was PISSED to see how many people missed the point and stuck up for a thief. It just proves something I've been saying for years now, the kids aren't learning to respect anything or anyone anymore.

Its like children are growing up without empathy. Its like they think "If it didn't happen to me who gives a damn" and they don't think it through more then that. I also believe you are right on some level that it's probably the author trying to defend himself.

I really wish there was something more I could do then just vote the story down as many times as possible. I feel bad for KB and I know I would be so very angry if it happened to me.

[DizzyFanGirl]

Kinky what happened to you is so wrong.
I looked at the post he stole and there is no doubt that its yours.
I gave his a neg vote to push him down on the list.
If everyone does that to him it won't undo his theft but his copy will sink down the list.
The stories on this site are some of the best ever I can't believe he thought no one would notice.
I love your stories please don't let some ass make you leave.
In the mean time keep your chin up and hope it all works out.

[1ThickCock]

That sucks donkey balls! I'm no writer or anything, but seriously people. That's ridiculous. I hope you get it taken care of. Good luck!

[ahorsewithnoname]

Hmm...a few things to comment on here.

First, I haven't look for the story nor have I seen the defending comments. IF they are comments from people who just set up an account (or anonymous ones), then it easily could be the same person. Sock accounts are easy to set up. Regardless, I understand that it's annoying.

Second, this is the interwebz, and stories here are going to get scraped by robots and then posted elsewhere. Fact of life. The fact that this story was posted on the same site, heh, that just shows either how stupid the poster was, or, perhaps they did it just to piss you off, KB. You know, perhaps you got a PM from someone, they wanted something from you, you ignored them or told them to piss off, and now they are mad at you, and this is their revenge...taking your stuff and reposting it.

You can blame the site, whatever, but again, you're not paying anything to be here and you do get to publicize your blog outside of xnxx, so, there's a trade off. You supply some content, you get some publicity. Quid pro quo. What you'd have to do is weigh the idea of leaving and losing another freebie publicity outlet vs. the indignity of having your story stolen.

I've had plenty of mine swiped. I don't think they've been posted here, but they have been swiped and posted on other websites. I take it with a grain of salt, figuring that maybe if it sucked, no one would care to copy it.

You seem to have developed a bit of a fan club here...hopefully you'll stick around and not be driven off by a few idiots. While having good writers here doesn't bring in $$ for the site owner, it does provide entertainment for the masses.

[Rutger5]

While I haven’t seen the comments on this particular story defending the story thief in many other cases I have seen commentators doing the same. Sometimes it may be the actual thief attempting to ‘defend’ their actions or make it seem that others are but I think it happens too frequently to be that alone.
　
I also don’t wish to just blame ‘the kids of today’ but there is certainly very little respect for intellectual property during this time. Whether its bootlegged movies or illegally downloaded songs as well as what we see here people think if they ‘benefit’ or save money its okay. Its not and that is a problem of morals and ethics or lack thereof.
We should all know by now if we post stories on the internet they will be stolen somehow, someway. But there is a difference between a bot stealing from one site and posting at another (worse in many ways) and what happened here. I can’t understand what satisfaction someone gets from taking a story here, changing the title and putting their handle on it. Do they get some perverse thrill from it? Somehow think they’ve earned whatever praise the story receives? Incomprehensible.
　
I hate to see any writer leave due to this but we all have to decide what we think is best for ourselves. And while I understand that the site doesn’t actually have advertising on the story site (or forums) I know that it was the story site that brought me and many others here. No doubt the owner(s) isn’t providing us this site and forum for altruistic reasons out of the goodness of their heart(s) so it stands to reason that it helps bring numbers to the overall xnxx site which is good for business. If I or anyone else who comes here goes to the video page as well there is the walk in customers that they are looking for.
　
And I have a suspicion, though certainly no proof, that at least some of the spy ware and redirects that often ‘infect’ the forum and story site may be tacitly allowed by ownership, whether directly or in exchange for lucre. If they weren’t benefiting financially from the story site and forum they wouldn’t be here. There are plenty of video clip sites that don’t provide them, but here they are doing it to be nice to us?
Still up to each person to decide what’s best for them but these thieves are lowlives. Just saying.
r5

[Lonelyandlost]

[QUOTE=Dizzyworks673;5253699]

Originally Posted by Lonelyandlost

Don't forget the comments where people defend what he did.

Now I'll admit, I haven't pulled out my official red marker, like the ones that my old English teacher used to buy in bulk when I went to school, and looked over both for the little changes, but even if he did edit it, like the "Anonymous people" claim, he still stole it. Hell, I swear 90% of the people saying how great it is is just the person that took it.

So far my most fav comment from the past few days is the guy who told the writer how great the story is, but he forgot to log out, so you can see it's the writer saying how great his story was, and people are calling him on that.QUOTE]


After reading your post Loney I went and found the story myself, I was PISSED to see how many people missed the point and stuck up for a thief. It just proves something I've been saying for years now, the kids aren't learning to respect anything or anyone anymore.

Its like children are growing up without empathy. Its like they think "If it didn't happen to me who gives a damn" and they don't think it through more then that. I also believe you are right on some level that it's probably the author trying to defend himself.

I really wish there was something more I could do then just vote the story down as many times as possible. I feel bad for KB and I know I would be so very angry if it happened to me.

I actually looked at both and took the time to examine parts closely. It seems where Kinky starts and ends a chapter, he altered parts, erased parts and added parts, plus changed the name of the characters all the way through.

As for a way to do something, someone just needs to invent a device that launched rabid weasels though the thief's computer screen.

[Lonelyandlost]

I must ask this, but am I the only one who finds a bit of humor in the opening line of the stolen story?


"I felt like a thief"

Kinda fitting that he stole something and kept that first line the way he did.

[belizelarry]

Kinkybelle. Remember you have thousands of readers with your stories. Both series is at or near the top of the list. We know you put out some of the best stories on this site. That is why I am here. Please do not leave here just because of a few dimwits that don't know what integrity means. We love your work. In real life stories, cars, cell phone all get stolen. Fact of life. Even with police and punishment it will still happen. Sorry it happened to you, more than once. That just shows the quality of your work, and why some idiot wants credit. They do not have your talent. (Nor your wonderful, perverted mind that can produce such arousing stories.) Thank you for the work, and time, and thought, you put in to your stories. We love you.

[Kinkybelle]

Originally Posted by belizelarry

Please do not leave here just because of a few dimwits that don't know what integrity means. We love your work. In real life stories, cars, cell phone all get stolen. Fact of life. Even with police and punishment it will still happen.

I'm not upset that someone stole my stories - I am well aware that this is a risk on the wild wild web. What does bother me is the fact that the simple remedy of clicking a button and removing the offending story will not be taken by the site managers (which I'm discovering apparently don't exist).

If a policeman stood by and watched your car being stolen, and when you pointed this out to him he completely ignored you, I suspect you wouldn't be quite as stoic about it all.

I appreciate all the positive feedback and generous support from the readers here (present company very much included), but I'm still not comfortable with a site that tacitly condones plagiarism. To my knowledge, it wasn't until I began posting here at XNXX that my stories began being 'stolen.'

Again, I don't want to sound like an egotistical bitch, but I've made an effort to cultivate the "Kinkybelle" brand over the past couple years and I find it difficult to just roll over and let my writing be taken, disfigured, and misrepresented without doing something about it. If my only recourse ends up being not posting to the one site where my work gets copied and reposted with impunity, then this may unforntunately be what I must do.

[les09]

Cry. Cry. Cry.

[raineing]

You don't sound egotistical(or bitchy), simply because you, and the other writers on this site, put their blood, sweat, and tears into their work, only to have it ripped off by some semi-literate loser, and you have no real recourse, except to no longer post on this site. Denying fans of your's and their work. Now, true, I'm not an author who has posted anything here, so I can't say I understand how it feels. No one can, until it happens to them, and they find they can't do anything about it. But if people like me, who come here to freely read good quality stories, and authors such as yourself, wantsomefun, and dizzyworks, start making it a point to let the moderators know that they need to start keeping tighter reins on these thieving wankers and fast, before the start loosing more writers and readers to sites that are willing and able to do so, maybe they will. And if not, then they will find themselves with a severely decreased user base, both from those of us that read, and those of you that write.

[ahorsewithnoname]

Originally Posted by raineing

You don't sound egotistical(or bitchy), simply because you, and the other writers on this site, put their blood, sweat, and tears into their work, only to have it ripped off by some semi-literate loser, and you have no real recourse, except to no longer post on this site. Denying fans of your's and their work. Now, true, I'm not an author who has posted anything here, so I can't say I understand how it feels. No one can, until it happens to them, and they find they can't do anything about it. But if people like me, who come here to freely read good quality stories, and authors such as yourself, wantsomefun, and dizzyworks, start making it a point to let the moderators know that they need to start keeping tighter reins on these thieving wankers and fast, before the start loosing more writers and readers to sites that are willing and able to do so, maybe they will. And if not, then they will find themselves with a severely decreased user base, both from those of us that read, and those of you that write.

Administration, not Moderators. It's important you, and others, know the distinction.

Moderators are volunteers who work here in the form. They have no jurisdiction or powers over in the story site.

[raineing]

My apologies. But you can't tell me that moderators don't have some pull or influence with the administrators. But no matter what they are called, the fact that no one is stepping up to do something about these story thieves or willing to try to make them stop, ban them, whatever, still holds true. And yes, I realize that this is a free site, where authors can submit their work with little or no censorship, that doesn't mean that they should turn a blind eye to theft of others hard work.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by raineing

My apologies. But you can't tell me that moderators don't have some pull or influence with the administrators. But no matter what they are called, the fact that no one is stepping up to do something about these story thieves or willing to try to make them stop, ban them, whatever, still holds true. And yes, I realize that this is a free site, where authors can submit their work with little or no censorship, that doesn't mean that they should turn a blind eye to theft of others hard work.

Until the author of the stolen work contacts one of the mods, we can't do a damn thing. We have no idea what story she's talking about in the thousands of stories on the Sex Stories Site. We have no authority over there but would gladly pass the information along.

You see, she did this before and I took it upon myself to reach out and then report everything to the admins and to ban the thief. Now it happens again and she's posting her complaints in an open forum. This is the first I've seen this thread because as previously stated, we volunteer our time here.

Perhaps now the author will message me with all of the information and the links to the stolen work. If she chooses not to, then she can continue to complain in this thread.

[Oweena]

Originally Posted by Kinkybelle

I reported that a story of mine that I posted here ('Team Mother') was copied and reposted (as 'Mrs. Chase: The MILF') by AJ_Cook about a month ago. The plagiarized story is still available here.

Now, a second story of mine ('Texting Mom') has been copied and reposted (as Sexting) by ufester2.

This wouldn't bother me if the admins here at XNXX were willing to respond to such incidents in a timely manner. The fact that this doesn't seem to be the case leads me to believe there is little respect here for the writers who are providing them with free content for their site, and that they are content to leave the plagiarized stories in place because it doesn't matter to them that the rightful author is credited, as long as it brings visitors in to the site. This apparent lack of consideration for the writers and their works is very distressing for me.

I had hoped that I had found an ideal outlet for my raunchy stories, but it's beginning to look like this isn't the place for someone who cares about their writing. I put a lot of time, effort, and love into my work and I hate to see it minimized by the incomprehensible stealing that is allowed to go on here. I know this is happening to other writers on the site, which is very unfortunate.

I'm leaving on vacation this weekend for a week. If, when I return, the stolen stories are still available here then I'm afraid I will no longer be able to participate as a writer in the XNXX.com community. I don't want to sound like a whiny brat, but I don't think I'm asking for too much.

Regards,
Kinkybelle

I understand how you feel, and this brings me to ask this question. How often have you researched a story you have read as to who the author was? How often do you know that others who have read the same story also research it? The answer to both of those questions is probably zilch.


I hate plagiarism as much as anyone. And I know the effort it takes to write a good story. But look at as comedians do as imitations are a sign of flattery and just let it go. There really isn't much you can do about it except know that the bastard who stole the story is too damn lazy or stupid to put a story out on his or her own.


There are so many stories written that even if you do come up with what you think is an original, some where there is another one that is an exact copy of your original or is your story a copy of some other author. It gives something to think about doesn't it?

[ahorsewithnoname]

Originally Posted by raineing

My apologies. But you can't tell me that moderators don't have some pull or influence with the administrators. But no matter what they are called, the fact that no one is stepping up to do something about these story thieves or willing to try to make them stop, ban them, whatever, still holds true. And yes, I realize that this is a free site, where authors can submit their work with little or no censorship, that doesn't mean that they should turn a blind eye to theft of others hard work.

Okay, so how about YOU do something too? I mean, if you want others to do work then you should be willing to do some too. So...

1. Go find the offending story and vote it down. Get your friends to vote it down too. Eventually it will be so low no one will ever find it.
2. Go post comments there telling anyone who reads it that it was stolen.
3. Send a PM to the thief and berate the person for their theft.
4. Send a message to the administrators and report the offending story.

By doing all of that, you'll be helping, not just complaining.

[johnstr]

Kinky, I truely hope this gets resolved for you and others who have had the same problem. I have had comments on some of my stories that I worked hard on and was accused of coppying someone else's work. They never come up with proof and keep themselves anonymous. There are all kinds of lower life forms out there and I truely hope we don't lose you on this site. I really enjoy your work and I hope we will see a lot more. Please don't leave.

[sidmaxx]

Originally Posted by ahorsewithnoname

Okay, so how about YOU do something too? I mean, if you want others to do work then you should be willing to do some too. So...

1. Go find the offending story and vote it down. Get your friends to vote it down too. Eventually it will be so low no one will ever find it.
2. Go post comments there telling anyone who reads it that it was stolen.
3. Send a PM to the thief and berate the person for their theft.
4. Send a message to the administrators and report the offending story.

By doing all of that, you'll be helping, not just complaining.

post a link to their profiles and the stories they've stolen and i will gladly do that.
i looked and did a search but nothing comes up

[Dizzyworks673]

I found the story by looking up the authors profile, and I've been voting it down daily. I know it isn't much but if we vote these things down enough then the copies will never be read.

I mean who really looks in the 1% for a story to read when there are so many great stories in the other 99%? I wish I could do more for you KB but if we all follow Horse's advice and at least vote it down it will never be seen.

[knightwalker01]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

I found the story by looking up the authors profile, and I've been voting it down daily. I know it isn't much but if we vote these things down enough then the copies will never be read.

I mean who really looks in the 1% for a story to read when there are so many great stories in the other 99%? I wish I could do more for you KB but if we all follow Horse's advice and at least vote it down it will never be seen.

Ok, I'll admit it. I do read the low rated stories just to see the train wreck of a story. Also to see the writeer defend his great work of art

[Kinkybelle]

Originally Posted by ejls

Until the author of the stolen work contacts one of the mods, we can't do a damn thing. We have no idea what story she's talking about in the thousands of stories on the Sex Stories Site. We have no authority over there but would gladly pass the information along.

You see, she did this before and I took it upon myself to reach out and then report everything to the admins and to ban the thief. Now it happens again and she's posting her complaints in an open forum. This is the first I've seen this thread because as previously stated, we volunteer our time here.

Perhaps now the author will message me with all of the information and the links to the stolen work. If she chooses not to, then she can continue to complain in this thread.

Hi ejls,

Here is how I've approached the problem. First, I sent a PM to the offending XNXX member asking them nicely to remove the story. Since authors don't have the ability to remove their own stories at the stories.xnxx.com site, I didn't expect this to result in any action.

Next I clicked on the support link and followed the instructions there and emailed all the information and links to stories.xnxx@gmail.com. After not receiving a response I turned to the forum since this is where the FAQ for the stories site resides. (I had no idea at the time the the forum and the story site managers were mutually exclusive).

I posted my issue with my story, and you (ejls) responded and let me know the user was banned. I was happy to finally get some acknowledgement, and assumed the issue was resolved.

However, as the days went on, I found that the offending story was still available, as was the offending member's profile. Perhaps the user was no longer able to log into his account, but as far as my problem goes the banning had no effect whatsoever. From my perspective, and as far as the entire reading population is concerned, nothing had changed.

It may sound to some that I'm doing nothing but complaining in an open forum, but that seems to be about all I can do. I feel I was quite thourough in addressing the problem, but my efforts appear to have been largely ineffective. I'll pass the specifics of the second incident of plagiarism along to your eljs, but, as you said, there's really nothing you can do about it.

I can tell from the tone of your post that you're annoyed with me, but I feel like I've done everything I can on my end to resolve this matter using the tools and conventions of the site. I looked again this morning to see if I had missed anything and found a 'Contact Us' form link in the footer and submitted the details through that as well. If there's something I'm missing, or not doing correctly, please let me know.

I appreciate that the moderators here on the forum volunteer and give freely of their time, and I have absolutely no complaints about the thankless work they do. My source of frustration at this point is with the managers of the stories.xnxx.com area, and the lack of response to what should be a simple matter to resolve. I have posted my work to several other sites in the past and have never encountered such a difficulty anywhere else. I would love to continue to be a part of the XNXX community, and continue to contribute to it.

Cheers,
KB

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Original version
posted on 7/20 - 7/22/2012
Sexting Mom Ch. 1, 2, 3, 4
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43451/...g_Mom%2C_Ch._1
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43488/...g_Mom%2C_Ch._2
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43511/...g_Mom%2C_Ch._3
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43518/...g_Mom%2C_Ch._4
By Kinkybelle
http://stories.xnxx.com/profile407312/

Plagiarized version
posted on 7/23/2012
SEXTING
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43530/SEXTING
By ufester2
http://stories.xnxx.com/profile651445/ufester2

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Original version
posted on 4/16 - 4/17/2012
Team Mother Ch. 1, 2, 3
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/40933/...ther%2C_Part_1
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/40944/...ther%2C_Part_2
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/40969/...ther%2C_Part_3
By Kinkybelle
http://stories.xnxx.com/profile407312/

Plagiarized version
posted on 6/28/2012
Mrs. Chase: The MILF
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/42822/...3A_The_MILF%22
By AJ_Cook
http://stories.xnxx.com/profile660971/AJ_Cook

[raineing]

Originally Posted by ahorsewithnoname

Okay, so how about YOU do something too? I mean, if you want others to do work then you should be willing to do some too. So...

1. Go find the offending story and vote it down. Get your friends to vote it down too. Eventually it will be so low no one will ever find it.
2. Go post comments there telling anyone who reads it that it was stolen.
3. Send a PM to the thief and berate the person for their theft.
4. Send a message to the administrators and report the offending story.

By doing all of that, you'll be helping, not just complaining.

Um, here the thing. I do all that already. And I wouldn't say I'm complaining. Maybe you see it differently than I do, but that's ok. My main problem with story theft is that there seems to be little to no recourse for an author if an adminstrator, by choice or because of the fact that there are a thousand different things for them to do on any given day, doesn't help out the writers when their intellectual property is stolen. I mean, last month, within days of each other, KB and daddycums both had stories stolen. Now, I don't know if KB's thief is still active, but daddycums' still is(as far as I know, I could be wrong). And that's after doing all you recommended. But I've strayed from what I was originally attempting to say.
Which is this. One day I hope not to simply be and avid reader on this site, but a
contributor(if I can ever get my shit together) and as that is I feel bad for those that go through this crap. And if I sound like I'm complaining, I'm sorry, that isn't my intention. My intention is to find the most I can do to stop this from happening.
That's all.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by Kinkybelle

Hi ejls,

Here is how I've approached the problem. First, I sent a PM to the offending XNXX member asking them nicely to remove the story. Since authors don't have the ability to remove their own stories at the stories.xnxx.com site, I didn't expect this to result in any action.

Next I clicked on the support link and followed the instructions there and emailed all the information and links to stories.xnxx@gmail.com. After not receiving a response I turned to the forum since this is where the FAQ for the stories site resides. (I had no idea at the time the the forum and the story site managers were mutually exclusive).

I posted my issue with my story, and you (ejls) responded and let me know the user was banned. I was happy to finally get some acknowledgement, and assumed the issue was resolved.

However, as the days went on, I found that the offending story was still available, as was the offending member's profile. Perhaps the user was no longer able to log into his account, but as far as my problem goes the banning had no effect whatsoever. From my perspective, and as far as the entire reading population is concerned, nothing had changed.

It may sound to some that I'm doing nothing but complaining in an open forum, but that seems to be about all I can do. I feel I was quite thourough in addressing the problem, but my efforts appear to have been largely ineffective. I'll pass the specifics of the second incident of plagiarism along to your eljs, but, as you said, there's really nothing you can do about it.

I can tell from the tone of your post that you're annoyed with me, but I feel like I've done everything I can on my end to resolve this matter using the tools and conventions of the site. I looked again this morning to see if I had missed anything and found a 'Contact Us' form link in the footer and submitted the details through that as well. If there's something I'm missing, or not doing correctly, please let me know.

I appreciate that the moderators here on the forum volunteer and give freely of their time, and I have absolutely no complaints about the thankless work they do. My source of frustration at this point is with the managers of the stories.xnxx.com area, and the lack of response to what should be a simple matter to resolve. I have posted my work to several other sites in the past and have never encountered such a difficulty anywhere else. I would love to continue to be a part of the XNXX community, and continue to contribute to it.

Cheers,
KB

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Original version
posted on 7/20 - 7/22/2012
Sexting Mom Ch. 1, 2, 3, 4
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43451/...g_Mom%2C_Ch._1
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43488/...g_Mom%2C_Ch._2
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43511/...g_Mom%2C_Ch._3
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43518/...g_Mom%2C_Ch._4
By Kinkybelle
http://stories.xnxx.com/profile407312/

Plagiarized version
posted on 7/23/2012
SEXTING
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/43530/SEXTING
By ufester2
http://stories.xnxx.com/profile651445/ufester2

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Original version
posted on 4/16 - 4/17/2012
Team Mother Ch. 1, 2, 3
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/40933/...ther%2C_Part_1
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/40944/...ther%2C_Part_2
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/40969/...ther%2C_Part_3
By Kinkybelle
http://stories.xnxx.com/profile407312/

Plagiarized version
posted on 6/28/2012
Mrs. Chase: The MILF
http://stories.xnxx.com/story/42822/...3A_The_MILF%22
By AJ_Cook
http://stories.xnxx.com/profile660971/AJ_Cook

I'm very glad that you received some form of action regarding YOUR stories, but I need to ask you a very serious question,,,,,,''are those your tits in your avatar''??

[ejls]

Originally Posted by raineing

Um, here the thing. I do all that already. And I wouldn't say I'm complaining. Maybe you see it differently than I do, but that's ok. My main problem with story theft is that there seems to be little to no recourse for an author if an adminstrator, by choice or because of the fact that there are a thousand different things for them to do on any given day, doesn't help out the writers when their intellectual property is stolen. I mean, last month, within days of each other, KB and daddycums both had stories stolen. Now, I don't know if KB's thief is still active, but daddycums' still is(as far as I know, I could be wrong). And that's after doing all you recommended. But I've strayed from what I was originally attempting to say.
Which is this. One day I hope not to simply be and avid reader on this site, but a
contributor(if I can ever get my shit together) and as that is I feel bad for those that go through this crap. And if I sound like I'm complaining, I'm sorry, that isn't my intention. My intention is to find the most I can do to stop this from happening.
That's all.

To answer one of your questions, KB's thieves have been banned. To answer another question about daddycums I am reposting a quote from another thread:

07-04-2012, 10:45 AM #12 Daddycums
Porn Star

Join Date: May 2009
Location: In the bushes outside your bedroom window.
Posts: 1,554



Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackRonin
Fact is, if you're an amateur writer posting material on the internet, it's going to be stolen. There's pretty much no way to stop it. People can lift your entire oeuvre with a few clicks. Whoever you are, whatever you write, if you have any significant amount of work on this or any site, someone has stolen it by now, no ifs ands or buts about it. I don't like it any more than anyone else, but it seems to be part of the price of distributing original material in the information age. Go ahead and Google search a few lines from any given story and you'll see what I mean.

And that's exactly why I make it easy for people to download and redistribute my stories. I know I'm not going to stop it from happening, so why try? There's no harm done if my stories get spread around the Internet; in fact, I might pick up a few new readers here and there.

That's why I hate plagiarism so much. I'm offering so much for free, and I ask so little in return. In this case, if this guy had simply left my name on the story, I would have been fine with him reposting it. In fact, I might have even thanked him for giving it more exposure.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornycountryboy
Oh and DC I did read Shelter from the Cold a month or so ago, after you mentioned that my CAW10 story reminded you of your story. I must say I did see the comparison. I was actually hoping to get the other story you mentioned read before I sent you a message tell you how I liked them. Unfortunately I have been so busy I haven't had much time to read many stories, then I set time to read all the CAW11 stories. There a many great writers on this site I wish I could take a vacation from everything just so I can read all the stories I have on my list to read.

No problem. I have a backlog of hundreds of stories I always intended to read but never got around to.

The other story, A Perfect Match, is also similar to yours, but in a different way. The personalities of the characters don't match yours quite so much, and the tone is much more lighthearted, but the situation is very similar.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornycountryboy
Well anyways Shelter from the cold, was a great story, with a lot of emotion. I really don't know if I could forgive myself if one of my kids were kidnapped that fast. I can't even count the times I quickly run into the house after strapping my kids in their car seats.

That's right, Shelter From the Cold is a Public Service Announcement in disguise! Remember, parents, don't strap your kids in their car seats then go back in the house.

While I'm at it: Remember, men, don't have sex with teenage girls until you've verified their genealogy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornycountryboy
My only beef with it is I kind of saw where it was headed halfway though, but still read it all the way though. I really enjoyed it very well written. Of course everything I have so far by you is very well written.

A lot of people figured out the surprise ending. Several people suggested ways that it could have been hidden a little better, but I have no intention of revising the story. I would have liked the end to be more of a shock, but I'm still satisfied with it.
__________________
Read my CAW11 Entry, Shadows on the Street.

And here's the obligatory link to the rest of my stories!




Had he supplied any information as to the location of the copied story, that thief would have been banned also.

Is there anything else you need answered? I have a question. Why do you feel the need to bash my efforts?

[Cheltenham]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

I found the story by looking up the authors profile, and I've been voting it down daily. I know it isn't much but if we vote these things down enough then the copies will never be read.

I mean who really looks in the 1% for a story to read when there are so many great stories in the other 99%? I wish I could do more for you KB but if we all follow Horse's advice and at least vote it down it will never be seen.

I look in the 1% because many writers are wrongly bombed off the front pages. There exist a plethora of stories in that fraction of submissions that have the potential to be great. With an editor and a little punctuation, those 'bottom of the barrel' works would be sitting on the front page also.

[Lonelyandlost]

Originally Posted by Cheltenham

I look in the 1% because many writers are wrongly bombed off the front pages. There exist a plethora of stories in that fraction of submissions that have the potential to be great. With an editor and a little punctuation, those 'bottom of the barrel' works would be sitting on the front page also.

See, I think the bottom of the barrel is great for stories like "The teacher Fuck" which is so badly written it's a laugh riot. It gives us great lines like.

my friend took off his penis.

and

my friend took off her jeans and panties and touched her womb

First of all, if his friend can do anything after removing his penis that don't involve rolling around on the floor in pain, I'm impressed. And then to touch her womb? So not only is he ripping off his own body parts, he's touching parts of her only a surgeon should touch. That is one hell of a friend.

[Cheltenham]

Originally Posted by Lonelyandlost

See, I think the bottom of the barrel is great for stories like "The teacher Fuck" which is so badly written it's a laugh riot. It gives us great lines like.

my friend took off his penis.

and

my friend took off her jeans and panties and touched her womb

First of all, if his friend can do anything after removing his penis that don't involve rolling around on the floor in pain, I'm impressed. And then to touch her womb? So not only is he ripping off his own body parts, he's touching parts of her only a surgeon should touch. That is one hell of a friend.

http://stories.xnxx.com/story/40360/Master_PC%3A_Suxnet

Currently rated 54.5%

http://stories.xnxx.com/story/6437/P...n_the_internet

Currently 57.5%

It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but the stories have very few errors in punctuation and the stories themselves are cohesive to a degree, thus proving my point.

Not every story that has been voted down is a horrible effort.

[raineing]

Ejls, I wasn't trying to bash you. I was trying to find out if I, as a reader, was doing all I could to help. Nothing more. I'm sorry if you feel I was.

[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by Cheltenham

I look in the 1% because many writers are wrongly bombed off the front pages. There exist a plethora of stories in that fraction of submissions that have the potential to be great. With an editor and a little punctuation, those 'bottom of the barrel' works would be sitting on the front page also.

Originally Posted by Lonelyandlost

See, I think the bottom of the barrel is great for stories like "The teacher Fuck" which is so badly written it's a laugh riot. It gives us great lines like.

my friend took off his penis.

and

my friend took off her jeans and panties and touched her womb

First of all, if his friend can do anything after removing his penis that don't involve rolling around on the floor in pain, I'm impressed. And then to touch her womb? So not only is he ripping off his own body parts, he's touching parts of her only a surgeon should touch. That is one hell of a friend.

It had never occured to me to comb the bottom of the bucket to find some rediculouse stories, I just thought if we knocked it down it would never be seen.

I can't stand thieves and I just wanted to help and support KB. But I stopped voting it down at 40 something percent so those people like yourselves looking in the 1 percent won't turn it up either. Maybe stuck near the bottom but not on it it will be lost in the non read area of the stories site.

On a different note some of those quotes you gave were pretty good. I might have to spend some time looking up some of the less rated too. I really don't like to make fun of others writings but I think I might just have fun with some of the 1 percent if they are what you guys are saying.

Again sorry to KB and I hope it all works itself out.

[darthel0101]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

… I might have to spend some time looking up some of the less rated too. …

Try The Camp Nurse out.
Read 930719 times | Rated 78.5 (3759 votes)But the most telling thing is Slippery Saddle Bum's comment at the top of the list

The rating on this story is FAR lower than it deserves to be. It's actually a damned well written story. Must be that someone was out to get the author and blasted him with negative votes, back before there was a limit on the number of votes that could be cast. If you liked it, give it an extra positive vote to make up for one of the negatives.

[johncarter21]

Its not healthy to steal someone's story. Proper action should be taken.

[Jared Sim]

Im appalled that admin let this go.
Any fool would know ur writing skill anywhere easily

With support

Jared

[OneNineNineThree]

I post here but I prefer ASSTR much more. They have a great site. I suggest you publish your stories there, there's your outlet.

[hornypixy]

In my country we have a weird saying that translates to 'digging up old cows from the ditch.' I have no idea where it come from, but it basically means bringing up old arguments in a new fight. I always think of that when I see a thread being resurrected.


It sounds so funny in English.

[KR1010]

I ran my High School Newspaper for 2 years and such aside from 30 years of computers and my sugestion would be . . . . .

. . . . . Post the story as a JPG, PNG or GIF -- Pic File and then put a watermark in there -- not so bad it interferes with the text but well enough to complicated things if they try it will take forever to type so the longer the better. May have additional idea but need to research it first.

KR1010

[Ovid58]

Ladies & Gentlemen,
I won't pretend that I have read all the posts on this thread, but, honestly, I've done some reading...

I'm posting this, since I feel that everybody has skipped an essential matter.

We are posting our stories without mentioning our real names, and the nicknames are not registered!

I am aware that, if a hacker wants to play, or piss me off, he/she can steal my password and do here whatever he/she wants to make the mods ban me!

So, where is the safety? The protection?!?

As I've already mentioned on another thread, when I've posted my stories, I've just taken the risk.

Now, regarding the owners of this site - finally, why should they care, as long as I don't bring them, directly, any money?!?

Am I sarcastic? Well, maybe I am...

Anyway, I'm sorry that I cannot think - at least yet - about a solution - so I'm afraid that I cannot be of real help...

[OneNineNineThree]

Originally Posted by KR1010

I ran my High School Newspaper for 2 years and such aside from 30 years of computers and my sugestion would be . . . . .

. . . . . Post the story as a JPG, PNG or GIF -- Pic File and then put a watermark in there -- not so bad it interferes with the text but well enough to complicated things if they try it will take forever to type so the longer the better. May have additional idea but need to research it first.

KR1010

Good idea but when your story is 100 pages on MS Word, how am I supposed to do that?

[darthel0101]

Get assistance from a printing company and create it as a PDF and lock it down. I BELIEVE that Acrobat allows not only read protection but also edit protection allowing unsecured reading.

Casual - read lazy - plagiarists will still be unable to pull the text out of the document because they need the full version of Acrobat to edit the doc and if the doc is password protected on the edit then they will have problems even there.

IIRC, it is actually cheaper to get a decent OCR program which can EASILY pull text out of an image.