Chick-fil-A has a new marketing plan

[clarise]

Originally Posted by Heyesey

(3) is false. Most congenital syndromes are not passed on through DNA.

Oh? How, then? Mitochondrial? DNA/mRNA is still the ultimate transmission medium.

How else? Maternal nucleic material or protein? Still indirectly genetically determined.

Do not pretend that you do not understand the point. You are entering into sophistry, as people normally do when they claim that marriage was invented in medieval Europe.

Originally Posted by Heyesey

(2) is also partly false. Not only has it been proven, but nobody except a complete and utter retard would even try to discuss the issue.

Oh, has it?

Which codon groups in which chromosome or chromosomes? Give us the name(s) and number(s) of the gay gene or genes.

There is no proof. None. Absolutely none. I challenge anyone to produce it, not only for the human genome but for any species.

I am a retard?

Produce it.

[SaraTG]

Originally Posted by RandJr

If lesbians and gays want to be accepted into society, stop parading around that you're gay. If its not a big deal, then STOP MAKING A BIG FUCKING DEAL. Have you ever seen a straight pride parade? Hmmmmm....

You are narrowing the field to far by lumping ALL straight people into one group. There have been decades of parades by "straight" people seeking their own rights in society. Womens rights movement. Civil rights marches of the 60's. Handicapped people seeking the right to be able to board busses and and shop. And so on. This is not about GAY rights or LESBIAN rights. It is about someone who happens to be gay or lesbian having the same rights as everyone else in society. Maybe one day people will look back like they do now at how women could not vote or blacks could not ride the bus and say, Wow. Can you believe once people thought same sex couples had no rights? This is not about "freedom of speech" because that argument was used by those trying to oppress every oppressed group thru our history. When this company and man use the profits he gets from the LGBT customers he says he welcomes to funnel into organizations which are fighting to deny them basic human rights..Well..You get the picture.

[RandyKnight]

Originally Posted by shyguyy2

Why the fuck do you think I said I wouldn't push for laws against it? I'm Atheist and a Libertarian before I explain my thought process to you maybe you should read about what those beliefs mean for a better understanding.

I know what they fuck they mean but there is no reason to push your non beliefs on a believer or vice versa...

I don't give a fuck what anyone does or believes....

You can suck you bothers dick and eat as much chicken as you want...no big deal to me.

But if I dont like it and I dont beleive that way I have the right to say so...

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by RandyKnight

I know what they fuck they mean but there is no reason to push your non beliefs on a believer or vice versa...

I don't give a fuck what anyone does or believes....

You can suck you bothers dick and eat as much chicken as you want...no big deal to me.

But if I dont like it and I dont beleive that way I have the right to say so...

I'm not pushing my non beliefs on anyone thats why I said I wouldn't push for laws restricting religion even though I think it's bullshit that causes wars. Being a Libertarian means I beleive everyone has a right to do whatever the fuck they want as long as it doesn't hurt others or restrict others. Chick-fil-A's owner is doing just that giving money to hate groups that fight to restrict people rights.

[RandyKnight]

Chick-fil-A (referring to "fillet") is an American fast food restaurant chain headquartered in the Atlanta suburb of College Park, Georgia, United States, specializing in chickenentrées.[1][2]

Long associated with the Southern United States, where it has become a cultural icon,[3]the chain has since expanded. As of April 2012, Chick-fil-A has 1,614 restaurants in 39 states and the District of Columbia, and is focusing future growth in the American Midwest, the Philippines, Mexico andSouthern California.[4] The corporate culture is heavily influenced by its founder's Christian beliefs; unlike the vast majority of fast food franchises, Chick-fil-A is closed for business on Sunday.




Chick-fil-A uses a model significantly different from other restaurant franchises, notably in retaining ownership of each restaurant. Chick-fil-A selects the restaurant location, builds it, and pays the rent, while retaining ownership. Whereas franchisees from competing chains need about $2 million to operate a franchise, Chick-fil-A franchisees need only a $5,000 initial investment to become an operator.

The company gets 10,000-25,000 applications from potential franchise operators for 60-70 slots they open each year. Chick-fil-A gets a larger share of revenue from its franchises than other chains, but the formula works well for operators — franchisees make an average of $190,000 per year. In 2010 Chick-fil-A took the industry lead in average sales per restaurant, making an average of $2.7 million per restaurant in 2010 (McDonald's was second with $2.4 million per restaurant




S. Truett Cathy is a devout Southern Baptist; his religious beliefs have a major impact on the company.[22] The company's official statement of corporate purpose says that the business exists "To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us. To have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A



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A man that builds this can give money to whomever he wants as long as they are not terrorist...

Why don't you do some research on Kock Brothers....

[DocFreakNastee]

Originally Posted by Heyesey

You're a liar. That wasn't your point. Your point was that they are doing nothing other than expressing an opinion. You're wrong.

understandable position but you didn't read the earlier convo ... when i say "the point is" as in any conversation it isn't based on the opening remark .. ya see .. communication is an interactive thing .. people have points and counter points .. You may not get that but its part of the communications paradigm ... It's ok if you have a hard time understanding it .. just read slower

the post you quote is based on a post after my first one where I remarked to the same person that any company has the right to do this.

[origen01]

I don't care. I'm kinda queer and Chick-Fil-A has every right to give money to whoever they want--as long as its not a criminal organization.

Some people are just too soft.

[Baddog_WOOF]

Originally Posted by N.E. Woman

Hey bad dog, how about you try using a little more current events to prove your point??? I didn't go back to southerners having slaves to prove the south is socially inept!

Your "proof"

1. Integration - first off it wasn't integration, it was school busing between largely single races neighborhoods in any case it was in 1974.

2. Hockey - a few fans, not the organizations owners said shitty things. On the other hand we have had Anson Carter...
Anson Carter, a black winger who played four seasons for the Bruins during a 10-year NHL career, said he was ''very surprised'' by the reaction because the Boston fans had treated him well.

3. Red Sox finally acquired a black player in 1959

4. Celtics Bill Russel played from 1956-1969

I wasn't alive for two of these occurrences, was 4 years old during the school busing debacle and I don't watch hockey.

In any case, social things that happened in the past... ie more than 30 years ago
Can't be used against a city to prove a point now!!

If you can find some proof of recent company big-wigs using their positions to further their politically social agenda, I'll listen.
If not, shut up.

If the south wants to keep up its socially backward thinking, that's fine with me, just dont expect a warm welcome in the north.

I'm not implying we all have to think alike, I just think it's bad business for any companies highest levels executives to state their personal views.

Go to Roxbury and tell the people there that that isn't any racism in Boston.
If there is no racism there, why should a white person be afraid to go to Roxbury?
I know you won't.
You don't have the guts to do it.

Take one of your black friends into Southie.
You know where that is, right?
Let me know how that works out for you.

Better yet, take one of your black male friends for a walk in Southie.
Hey, good thing you have health insurance.

If there is no racism in Baaaaaston like you claim, you ought to be able to take my dares.
You can't and you won't.
You like being alive.

Keep running your mouth.
Nobody believes you anyway!

[Baddog_WOOF]

Originally Posted by Heyesey

Which large companies have openly stated that they are opposed to people being allowed to be Christians? Or that they don't believe Christians should be allowed to marry each other?

Nice Straw Man argument.
Try to directly attack what I said, if you can.

[origen01]

Boston is racist...everyone knows that...

[Baddog_WOOF]

Originally Posted by origen01

Boston is racist...everyone knows that...

Not everyone.
Most Bostonians are too busy painting all Southerners as racists while they deny all the racists around them in Boston.

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by clarise

Oh? How, then? Mitochondrial? DNA/mRNA is still the ultimate transmission medium.

How else? Maternal nucleic material or protein? Still indirectly genetically determined.

There is only a transmission medium for things which are transmitted. Congenital does not mean inherited, it means present from birth. Most congenital conditions are NOT transmitted.

Infertility is usually congenital. Are you going to argue that people are only infertile because their parents were also infertile?

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by Baddog_WOOF

Nice Straw Man argument.
Try to directly attack what I said, if you can.

I already did.

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by DocFreakNastee

understandable position but you didn't read the earlier convo ... when i say "the point is" as in any conversation it isn't based on the opening remark

You're a liar. Again. You claimed that Chick-Fil-A have done nothing except to express an opinion. You were proven wrong, and then tried to defend your claim by saying that other companies do it as well, which is nothing to do with the claim you made.

[clarise]

Originally Posted by Heyesey

There is only a transmission medium for things which are transmitted. Congenital does not mean inherited, it means present from birth. Most congenital conditions are NOT transmitted.

Infertility is usually congenital. Are you going to argue that people are only infertile because their parents were also infertile?

Ughhhhh.

Now I understand your protest. But that is how I used the word. To repeat #2:

. Homosexuals insist that their condition is congenital (i.e., that they are born with it).

Numbers #1 and #2, in the context of homosexuality still imply that #3 must be true.

Consider the "other" causes of congenital deformity. (Not meant pejoratively. Replace "deformity" with "condition" or "state" if you wish.) Homosexuality is not caused by physical abuse to the woman in utero. It is not caused by alcohol or nicotine in the mother's bloodstream.

Heysey, homosexuality has been passed down for hundreds of thousands of years, if dogma is correct (and homosexuality is somehow inherited). Homosexuality cuts across all regional, racial, ethnic, and economic divides.

We are not talking about mercury in the water, or trace arsenic contamination in foodstock.

If homosexuality is congenital, genetic transmission is the only plausible cause. Gays have been hogging lab time in universities for decades, in search of "proof." They have not found it.

All that aside, you are ignoring the point. I said in my post, assume it to be true. It still does not prevent gays from marrying. Nothing prevents gays from marrying, or ever has prevented them from marrying.

[spjames]

Originally Posted by origen01

I don't care. I'm kinda queer and Chick-Fil-A has every right to give money to whoever they want--as long as its not a criminal organization.

Some people are just too soft.

So you support an organization that supports and donates to an organization that promotes the death sentence for gay people in African nations. Because that's not criminal?

[origen01]

Originally Posted by spjames

So you support an organization that supports and donates to an organization that promotes the death sentence for gay people in African nations. Because that's not criminal?

No American evangelical organization has supported death sentences. That was entirely a local effort that was OPPOSED by foreign NGOs--including evangelical groups.

You want to think of HORRIBLE corporations?

CocaCola, DelMonte, Chiquita - All responsible for the MASS MURDER and genocide of innocent Central Americans.

Union Carbine, Dupont - Responsible for workplace disasters taking the lives of thousands.

Monsanto -- possibly the most evil corporation in the world.

Anabolic Videos -- for allowing a misogynist abuser like Khan Tusion to beat girls on film and call it entertainment. Ooops. Did I hit too close to home? Nah, you don't give a fuck about that...

Enough with the fake outrage already. Stop being such a fairy. And if I'm saying that, you really need to grow a pair.

[clarise]

Originally Posted by origen01

No American evangelical organization has supported death sentences. That was entirely a local effort that was OPPOSED by foreign NGOs--including evangelical groups.

You want to think of HORRIBLE corporations?

CocaCola, DelMonte, Chiquita - All responsible for the MASS MURDER and genocide of innocent Central Americans.

Union Carbine, Dupont - Responsible for workplace disasters taking the lives of thousands.

Monsanto -- possibly the most evil corporation in the world.

Anabolic Videos -- for allowing a misogynist abuser like Khan Tusion to beat girls on film and call it entertainment. Ooops. Did I hit too close to home? Nah, you don't give a fuck about that...

Enough with the fake outrage already. Stop being such a fairy. And if I'm saying that, you really need to grow a pair.

+1

I've moved my genetics rant to a dedicated thread, because it really didn't belong here.

Oddly enough I do not think the Chick-Fil-A uproar has anything to do with gays or gay marriage. (Is it Chick or Chic? Don't even know. I've never eaten there.)

Stepping back for a bit, this all started with Boston Mayor Tom "Mumbles" Menino writing a letter to Dave Cathy, to try to prevent them from moving a new restaurant into the location of a defunct watering hole called The Purple Shamrock, located on Boston's Freedom Trail.

Menino is an idiot who is incapable of seeing his own hypocrisy. He had to back off, of course, because the letter would have been admissible if Chick Filet-A had chosen to press a felony extortion charge.

But that nonsense is what sparked Rahm Immanuel's copycat rant in Chicago, and that is where it becomes surreal. Immanuel declared that Chick Fil-A did not meet Chicago's standards for values right around the same time he had his arm around Louis Farrakhan, an avowed Muslim. How are the Muslims and Farrakhan for gay tolerance and the celebration of diversity?

For that matter, "Mumbles" Menino had no problem with contravening the wishes of an entire neighborhood and allowing a mosque and educational center to go in, even though the Boston Muslim community is anti-gay.

And as for Chicago's "values," Chick Fil-A is not good enough for them, yet Chicago suffered at least two gun murders and several dozen injuries from gang drive-by shootings within a day of Immanuel's protest.

Clearly the protest against Chick Fil-A has nothing to do with gay marriage, per se. It is a protest against a corporation's CHRISTIAN values.

[Kimiko]

Originally Posted by RandyKnight

Have you lost your fucking mind....the day parents are not allowed to raise their children in religious ways the country is finally done...it is getting real close right now...

If the kid dont like it he can take off at 18...some runaway sooner...I did.

Oh yeah, religion is really on the run in the United States. If it wasn't, there'd be a church on every block......what's that?....oh...there IS a church on every block.

Come on, Randy...this victim mentality on the part of Christians really gets old. The U.S. is probably about as radically Christian as any country on earth, and growing more so every day.

And nobody is preventing children from raising their children in religious ways...although I certainly agree with whoever said that it's a form of child abuse. The world, and this country, would be a better place if children did not have their minds fettered from birth.

[Whitey44]

I think this gay controversy is providing Chick-fil-a free publicity.
The publicity brings in more money, a portion of which goes to the GOP.

[N.E. Woman]

Originally Posted by Baddog_WOOF

Go to Roxbury and tell the people there that that isn't any racism in Boston.
If there is no racism there, why should a white person be afraid to go to Roxbury?
I know you won't.
You don't have the guts to do it.

Take one of your black friends into Southie.
You know where that is, right?
Let me know how that works out for you.

Better yet, take one of your black male friends for a walk in Southie.
Hey, good thing you have health insurance.

If there is no racism in Baaaaaston like you claim, you ought to be able to take my dares.
You can't and you won't.
You like being alive.

Keep running your mouth.
Nobody believes you anyway!

To Mr. Knows me so well,
Let's go through your points....

In high school I dated a boy from Roxbury. He lived in Egelston Square (when the elevated train was still there.). We would go to Fields Corner and a store called "Nubian Notions" in Dudley Square amongst other places.

Later I had a white girlfriend and we each had a black boyfriend.... She lived in Southie, and we used to walk around Castle Island with no issues.

You seem to think I am some wintering flower from a suburb that is 100% white and super sheltered too boot. Let me correct you on a few things. I. Am. Not. Additionally, I am not Scared to walk around any part of Boston during the day. At night, there are many neighborhoods I wouldn't choose to walk alone in... But they are both black and white neighborhoods!

I never said or implied racism didn't exist in Boston. It exists EVERYWHERE ! If you are referring to your first post directed towards me, I was just "answering" your points, I never said racism doesn't occur here.

You seem to have turned this debate from me applauding Menino for standing up for the LGBT community vs. chick-fil-A. Into a race war.

As for no one believing me??? What are you talking about? No one believes the things I say, or are you calling me a Silverback?

Why don't you go try to pick on someone else.

Have a nice day....

[clarise]

Actually Southie has grown quite diverse in the past several years. I doubt that a racially mixed couple would have any more trouble there, than on Newbury Street.

Some of the older sections of East Boston are perceived to be less tolerant these days than Southie-- out toward Orient Heights/Revere.

Nevertheless the racial tensions run deep in Boston. Perhaps lingering resentment/animosity?

Mumbles Menino did not stand up for anyone. He pandered with a cheap shot, and was told to sit down, by his own advisers.

This outrage against David Cathy's position on marriage is baffling. Is it not true that Obama held essentially the same position until two or three months ago? Oh, that's right... his belief system has been evolving.

Well, Obama certainly had not started evolving four years ago, when the majority of the LGBT community voted for him.

Where's the love? What about the celebration of diversity? That's what I want to know. Sheesh.

[spjames]

Originally Posted by origen01

No American evangelical organization has supported death sentences.

OH REALLY.....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...91a3ce9d2e5283

[origen01]

Originally Posted by spjames

OH REALLY.....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...91a3ce9d2e5283

REALLY.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news...l_gay_law.html

http://www.christianpost.com/news/us...-africa-78808/

This report provides no evidence that evangelical groups advocate the death penalty for gays. The bill was completely the initiative of MP Bahati.

And the bill is DOA in the Ugandian Parliament. There are anti-gay laws on the books (you can thank the British) that are despicable in Uganda but evangelicals do not support the death penalty for gays.

[RandyKnight]

Well if that is how you want to play I will take the gloves off.....

[richief]

What I have learned today.

1. A fast food outlet is homophobic.
2. Boston is racist, I really don't know how a city can be racist, maybe the buildings chant ditty's supporting DL and his weird ideas.
3. America is a christian fundamentalist country. That I already knew and is one of the reasons I won't visit.
4. because there is always a four.

[spjames]

Originally Posted by origen01

This report provides no evidence that evangelical groups advocate the death penalty for gays. The bill was completely the initiative of MP Bahati.

And the bill is DOA in the Ugandian Parliament. There are anti-gay laws on the books (you can thank the British) that are despicable in Uganda but evangelicals do not support the death penalty for gays.

That PDF report from Political Research Associates aka publiceye.org did in fact implicate and prove the connection between 3 US religious conservative groups and their attempts to sway African politicians into enacting severe anti LGTB laws.

That law in Uganda was brought up again in Feb 2012 and is still pending action it has not been totally squashed. If the bill does gain legislative passage it is thought that the current president (Museveni) would most likely veto the bill. My prediction is that it will not pass but that religious nuts will try again and again. Religious hypocritical conservatives are such hard cases.


I'm not sure what report you read but it sure wasn't that one if you in fact did read it at all.


It's so sad that people have to jamb their noses into other peoples personal lives under the cover of religious conviction.What's next blasphemy laws written with such broad interpretation that anyone can be convicted under it? Just go get laid for christ sake and quite worrying about what other people do with their private parts. Just worry about cleaning up the pedo's and the rest won't be a problem.

[origen01]

Originally Posted by spjames

That PDF report from Political Research Associates aka publiceye.org did in fact implicate and prove the connection between 3 US religious conservative groups and their attempts to sway African politicians into enacting severe anti LGTB laws.

That law in Uganda was brought up again in Feb 2012 and is still pending action it has not been totally squashed. If the bill does gain legislative passage it is thought that the current president (Museveni) would most likely veto the bill. My prediction is that it will not pass but that religious nuts will try again and again. Religious hypocritical conservatives are such hard cases.


I'm not sure what report you read but it sure wasn't that one if you in fact did read it at all.


It's so sad that people have to jamb their noses into other peoples personal lives under the cover of religious conviction.What's next blasphemy laws written with such broad interpretation that anyone can be convicted under it? Just go get laid for christ sake and quite worrying about what other people do with their private parts. Just worry about cleaning up the pedo's and the rest won't be a problem.

I'm not sure what post you read but I posted a link to the report which only reaches conclusions based on associative assumptions. No hard evidence. You don't have to tell be about the negatives of an evangelical presence in the third world but it is more complex than "religion is evil"--and the death penalty for gays will NEVER pass in Uganda.

I don't agree with religious groups about homosexuality but religion is not completely bad. There are other ways to promote gay rights without bashing someone's religious beliefs. Lot's of gay people are religious too...that's why many are closeted...

[origen01]

Originally Posted by richief

America is a christian fundamentalist country. That I already knew and is one of the reasons I won't visit.

Oh, come on, you are missing out! We are not a fundamentalist country. Australia is more conservative than the US, IMO, with the only exception that prostitution is legal...

[Baddog_WOOF]

Originally Posted by Heyesey

I already did.

You analogy was lame.
You fail.

[Baddog_WOOF]

Originally Posted by N.E. Woman

To Mr. Knows me so well,
Let's go through your points....

In high school I dated a boy from Roxbury. He lived in Egelston Square (when the elevated train was still there.). We would go to Fields Corner and a store called "Nubian Notions" in Dudley Square amongst other places.

Later I had a white girlfriend and we each had a black boyfriend.... She lived in Southie, and we used to walk around Castle Island with no issues.

You seem to think I am some wintering flower from a suburb that is 100% white and super sheltered too boot. Let me correct you on a few things. I. Am. Not. Additionally, I am not Scared to walk around any part of Boston during the day. At night, there are many neighborhoods I wouldn't choose to walk alone in... But they are both black and white neighborhoods!

I never said or implied racism didn't exist in Boston. It exists EVERYWHERE ! If you are referring to your first post directed towards me, I was just "answering" your points, I never said racism doesn't occur here.

You seem to have turned this debate from me applauding Menino for standing up for the LGBT community vs. chick-fil-A. Into a race war.

As for no one believing me??? What are you talking about? No one believes the things I say, or are you calling me a Silverback?

Why don't you go try to pick on someone else.

Have a nice day....

I am not calling you anything, although delusional and naive comes to mind.
Step up and ask anybody in Roxbury if Baaaaaaston is racist.
You can't and you won't.

Little white girls like you don't want to believe Baaaaaston is racist.
Awwww!
Isn't that cute!

[Baddog_WOOF]

Originally Posted by richief

What I have learned today.

1. A fast food outlet is homophobic.
2. Boston is racist, I really don't know how a city can be racist, maybe the buildings chant ditty's supporting DL and his weird ideas.
3. America is a christian fundamentalist country. That I already knew and is one of the reasons I won't visit.
4. because there is always a four.

I am sure you are blind to racism in the UK, but you are too busy being smug to actually think about that.

[origen01]

Originally Posted by Baddog_WOOF

I am not calling you anything, although delusional and naive comes to mind.
Step up and ask anybody in Roxbury if Baaaaaaston is racist.
You can't and you won't.

Little white girls like you don't want to believe Baaaaaston is racist.
Awwww!
Isn't that cute!

Oh, come on, give it a rest already...

[Baddog_WOOF]

Originally Posted by origen01

Oh, come on, give it a rest already...

Origen01,
You are so right!
I have seen the errors of my ways.

There has never been any racists in Boston or anywhere else in the North.
There has never been any racism in Boston!
Thank you for helping me to see the light!

[origen01]

Originally Posted by Baddog_WOOF

Origen01,
You are so right!
I have seen the errors of my ways.

There has never been any racists in Boston or anywhere else in the North.
There has never been any racism in Boston!
Thank you for helping me to see the light!

We've already established that Boston is racist but every US city has its share of racism so let it go.

[Baddog_WOOF]

Originally Posted by origen01

We've already established that Boston is racist but every US city has its share of racism so let it go.

Racism is everywhere.
Isn't that a fucking shock?

[kydave]

Originally Posted by Baddog_WOOF

Not everyone.
Most Bostonians are too busy painting all Southerners as racists while they deny all the racists around them in Boston.

Yes I am from the south and am not racists"god bless obahma".see there i said a prayer for the black man.

[shootersa]

Originally Posted by spjames

It's so sad that people have to jamb their noses into other peoples personal lives under the cover of religious conviction.What's next blasphemy laws written with such broad interpretation that anyone can be convicted under it? Just go get laid for christ sake and quite worrying about what other people do with their private parts. Just worry about cleaning up the pedo's and the rest won't be a problem.

Now hold on just a second.............The LGBT community has been JAMMING their otherwise personal business onto everyone's radar for several years, and they make no bones about it.
That's fine. That's political discourse. That's America. But for you to then hop on your arrogant hypocritical high horse and bitch about someone jamming their noses into someones personal business..........ignoring the fact that the LGBT community has all but made it impossible NOT to form an opinion.........and then be boycotted for voicing it if it doesn't fit the correct attitude of the moment........Man, just siddown.

[richief]

Originally Posted by Baddog_WOOF

I am sure you are blind to racism in the UK, but you are too busy being smug to actually think about that.

Oh I see the racism over here, but it certainly isn't has bad as the US, black people can actually walk down most streets and not get harassed by the police, or avoided by people like DL.

I was just questioning how a city can be racist, surely there must be a percentage of racists to non racists do you have figures for that?

Edit.

I can not remember the last time I witnessed a racist act personally, though it does happen sometimes on the football pitch, we even take people to court for racist comments as it is illegal over here, we have no bill of rights to hide behind. Making racist statements or inciting others with racist statements will lead to the courts, the same goes for inciting homophobia, or even inciting religious hatred. So yes I can feel a little smug that we cannot stand in the middle of a bar shouting out racial slurs, well you could but you also could end up in the gaol for the night before visiting the magistrate. As I said we have racism but we are tackling it head on, what do you do about it in the US?

[DocFreakNastee]

Originally Posted by Heyesey

You're a liar. Again. You claimed that Chick-Fil-A have done nothing except to express an opinion. You were proven wrong, and then tried to defend your claim by saying that other companies do it as well, which is nothing to do with the claim you made.

LOL I have to say you ARE funny a bit dim but funny

[anon_de_plume]

a post for my 10 required...

[origen01]

Originally Posted by richief

Oh I see the racism over here, but it certainly isn't has bad as the US, black people can actually walk down most streets and not get harassed by the police, or avoided by people like DL.

The UK is a lot more racist than the US...

[richief]

Originally Posted by origen01

The UK is a lot more racist than the US...

Well I suggest you post proof of that.

[origen01]

Originally Posted by richief

Well I suggest you post proof of that.

please...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ka...nore-the-fact/

[RandJr]

Originally Posted by SaraTG

You are narrowing the field to far by lumping ALL straight people into one group. There have been decades of parades by "straight" people seeking their own rights in society. Womens rights movement. Civil rights marches of the 60's. Handicapped people seeking the right to be able to board busses and and shop. And so on. This is not about GAY rights or LESBIAN rights. It is about someone who happens to be gay or lesbian having the same rights as everyone else in society. Maybe one day people will look back like they do now at how women could not vote or blacks could not ride the bus and say, Wow. Can you believe once people thought same sex couples had no rights? This is not about "freedom of speech" because that argument was used by those trying to oppress every oppressed group thru our history. When this company and man use the profits he gets from the LGBT customers he says he welcomes to funnel into organizations which are fighting to deny them basic human rights..Well..You get the picture.

I was talking about the government, sorry if I said straight people.

[shootersa]

Joe Moreno, the alderman whose opposition of a proposed Chick-fil-A on Chicago's north side helped fuel the controversy, told the Chicago Tribune the company has pledged to include a statement of respect for all sexual orientations in a memo to staffers, and has promised that the WinShape Foundations, its not-for-profit arm, would no longer contribute money to groups that oppose gay marriage. Moreno said he will recommend that Chick-fil-A's construction plans be approved.

So, as it turns out, Joe Moreno was able to black mail Chick-fil A into giving up their rights to free speech so they could build a restaurant in Chicago.

I don't know who I'm more disgusted with; Moreno for strong arming and black mailing them into supporting his view of the world, or Chick-fil A for folding under his heavy handed pressure so they could build their resaurant...........

I think Joe, cause when I tracked down his web site and went to the news tab, my virus program had a hissy. Seems old Joe has a particularly aggressive tracking tool on his web site.

Well Joe, track this

[Rixer]

I'm more disgusted with Chick-fil-a for sending money to groups who actively discriminate against gays in the first place. Their turn around on the issue is only for monetary gain and isn't sincere. And though it's at least a good start in a better direction, I still won't eat their stale processed chicken parts sandwiches.

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Originally Posted by Rixer

I'm more disgusted with Chick-fil-a for sending money to groups who actively discriminate against gays in the first place. Their turn around on the issue is only for monetary gain and isn't sincere. And though it's at least a good start in a better direction, I still won't eat their stale processed chicken parts sandwiches.

Now see, I respect that. You withhold your patronage both because you disagree with their politics, and you don't like their food. good on you.

Now that rascal Joe Moreno, he's just a thug. And a hacker. Not only would he not get my vote if I lived in his ward, but I'd vote For whoever ran against him..........even if it was Obama.............

Oh shit. did I just say that?