Do you think this is acceptable?

[anon_de_plume]

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/20...attack-ad?lite

I hope this link posts...

and I hope you read it. Please ignore the source and concentrate on the content. While I have not been happy with Obama thus far, but I can't believe the levels of mendacity that the GOP, a once Grand Old Party, has stooped or risen to, take your pick.

If Romney its willing to tell such demonstrably blatant lies during the campaign, then will we even be able to trust him to tell us that the sun rises in the east?

[iceman28]

Not sure that anything that can be said about our muslim president is as bad as he and his America hating friends are.

[I hate implants]

One of these days we're going to find a Republican Candidate that can attack competently.

McCain refused to attack until it was too late, and Romney sucks at it.

[RandyKnight]

Not Acceotable...

It's important to realize this is as dishonest an ad as you'll ever see -- in 2012 or in any other campaign cycle.


For those who can't watch clips online, the ad shows President Clinton signing welfare reform into law in 1996, "requiring work for welfare."


The spot then argues, however, that President Obama "quietly announced a plan to gut welfare reform by dropping work requirements."

The voiceover tells viewers, "Under Obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work and wouldn't have to train for a job.

They just send you your welfare check.... and welfare to work goes back to being plain old welfare."
We then learn, "Mitt Romney will restore the work requirement because it works."


Romney's lying.

He's not spinning the truth to his advantage; he's not hiding in a gray area between fact and fiction;

he's just lying. The law hasn't been "gutted"; the work requirement hasn't been "dropped." Stations that air this ad are disseminating an obvious, demonstrable lie.
All Obama did is agree to Republican governors' request for flexibility. That's it.

Indeed, perhaps the most jaw-dropping aspect of this is that Romney himself, during his one gubernatorial term, asked for the same kind of flexibility on welfare law that Obama agreed to last month. Romney, in other words, is attacking the president for doing what Romney asked the executive branch to do in 2005.


The entire line of attack is simply insane.


And that brings us back to the test for the political world.

How are we to respond to a campaign that deliberately deceives the public without shame? This lie about welfare policy comes on the heels of Romney's lie about voting rights in Ohio, which came on the heels of Romney's lies about the economy; which came on the heels of Romney's lies about health care; which came on the heels of Romney's lies about taxes.

[anon_de_plume]

Originally Posted by iceman28

Not sure that anything that can be said about our muslim president is as bad as he and his America hating friends are.

In other words, you'd rather be blinded by rhetoric than bask in the truth.

[RandyKnight]

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[richief]

He appears to be a moron if he thinks that the swing voters will fall for rubbish like that, or will he claim it was done by a campaign manager without his consent. I really worry for America if that moron gets elected.

[deviousdave]

Obama has been mediocre at best, catastrophically bad at worst, depending on your point of view. Fortunately for the Democrats, the Republican party is a shambles, and has come up with one of the most pathetic candidates in history. I really think Obama is going to win, and win comfortably, despite being one of the least successful presidents in modern history.

[McDick]

Obama gutted the work requirement in welfare reform. That’s fine. Democrats don’t believe in the work requirement. Democrats have always been opposed to the work requirement. Republicans have always supported it.

But then he blames his own actions on some Republican governor. What a little weasel our President is, always pointing his finger at someone else as if he has no choice but to just follow orders from Republican governors. What a phony he is.

Why can’t Democrats admit that they don’t like the work requirement in the welfare reform law? Why do they have to lie about it? Why are they such hypocrites?

The fact is that Democrats don’t want there to be a work requirement to welfare. They don’t believe in it. They never have. Why can’t they admit it? They don’t want welfare recipients to work. They don’t want welfare recipients to have to look for work. They don’t want welfare recipients to have to receive job training. They never have. Why can’t Democrats admit this instead of trying to blame others?

Bill Clinton vetoed this law twice before he finally buckled to the will of the American people and signed it. The polls were overwhelmingly in favor of it to such a degree that Clinton decided signed it. Then when he signed it he told Democrat leaders he would later gut it when no one was looking.

Well, the American people and the Republicans continued watching Clinton. He never had the chance to gut it. Now, the first Democrat President since Clinton decides to gut it and he won’t even admit that that’s what he wants to do. He blames the governors, saying he’s just doing it for them. What a weasel obama is!

Why can’t Democrats admit that they don’t like the work requirement in the welfare reform law?????

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by McDick

Obama gutted the work requirement in welfare reform.

No he didn't. That's a lie.

[clarise]

David Axelrod and The State Teleprompter trot out a deflection and/or lie each and every Friday.

And after Reid and his bullshit, anything goes.

McCain was a wuss who never took off the gloves.

From now to November, Romney should say any damned thing. Any damned thing at all.

Sheesh.

[clarise]

Originally Posted by richief

He appears to be a moron if he thinks that the swing voters will fall for rubbish like that, or will he claim it was done by a campaign manager without his consent. I really worry for America if that moron gets elected.

Obama, Reid and Pelosi, the Trilateral Commission of Morons, have amply proven that American voters will believe absolutely anything.

Romney should say anything! Lie, Lie, LIE! Anything! If he wants the job in November, he has to convince ME to vote for him, and I still swear I never will!

Convince me, Romney! Take the gloves off, already! Demand the Messiah's college records, already! Make him prove a negative, the way Reid has done! Damn it, you wuss, FIGHT!

[shyguyy2]

Nothing Romney says is acceptable same with 98% of the people in Washington.

[shootersa]

I hereby assign 20 poop units to the ad.
I don't give one poop unit to what either candidate has to say about the other one. Them or their lackeys.

I wanna know; you get the job, what are you gonna do besides;
Get blow jobs from interns
Apologize for something that happened before any of us was born
Give special interest groups special treatment
Blow money like my idiot son
Refuse to balance the budget
Have foreign governments wonder the fuck we think we're doing
and so on.............

For Christs sake; just tell me why you should be hired, not why we should refuse to hire the other guy.

I mean, isn't that the way the rest of us get a job?

[spjames]

Originally Posted by McDick

Obama gutted the work requirement in welfare reform. That’s fine. Democrats don’t believe in the work requirement. Democrats have always been opposed to the work requirement. Republicans have always supported it.

But then he blames his own actions on some Republican governor. What a little weasel our President is, always pointing his finger at someone else as if he has no choice but to just follow orders from Republican governors. What a phony he is.

Why can’t Democrats admit that they don’t like the work requirement in the welfare reform law? Why do they have to lie about it? Why are they such hypocrites?

The fact is that Democrats don’t want there to be a work requirement to welfare. They don’t believe in it. They never have. Why can’t they admit it? They don’t want welfare recipients to work. They don’t want welfare recipients to have to look for work. They don’t want welfare recipients to have to receive job training. They never have. Why can’t Democrats admit this instead of trying to blame others?

Bill Clinton vetoed this law twice before he finally buckled to the will of the American people and signed it. The polls were overwhelmingly in favor of it to such a degree that Clinton decided signed it. Then when he signed it he told Democrat leaders he would later gut it when no one was looking.

Well, the American people and the Republicans continued watching Clinton. He never had the chance to gut it. Now, the first Democrat President since Clinton decides to gut it and he won’t even admit that that’s what he wants to do. He blames the governors, saying he’s just doing it for them. What a weasel obama is!

Why can’t Democrats admit that they don’t like the work requirement in the welfare reform law?????

Wow. How often do you smoke crack?

[Druidoak]

Originally Posted by deviousdave

Obama has been mediocre at best, catastrophically bad at worst, depending on your point of view. Fortunately for the Democrats, the Republican party is a shambles, and has come up with one of the most pathetic candidates in history. I really think Obama is going to win, and win comfortably, despite being one of the least successful presidents in modern history.

And your making this judgment, based on what. I agree he is going to be reelected. As for his performance as a president, he has done pretty well for taking over after Bush and his GOP boyzs buried us in two wars, ran up the debt. He's not done to bad!

[Druidoak]

Originally Posted by McDick

Obama gutted the work requirement in welfare reform. That’s fine. Democrats don’t believe in the work requirement. Democrats have always been opposed to the work requirement. Republicans have always supported it.

But then he blames his own actions on some Republican governor. What a little weasel our President is, always pointing his finger at someone else as if he has no choice but to just follow orders from Republican governors. What a phony he is.

Why can’t Democrats admit that they don’t like the work requirement in the welfare reform law? Why do they have to lie about it? Why are they such hypocrites?

The fact is that Democrats don’t want there to be a work requirement to welfare. They don’t believe in it. They never have. Why can’t they admit it? They don’t want welfare recipients to work. They don’t want welfare recipients to have to look for work. They don’t want welfare recipients to have to receive job training. They never have. Why can’t Democrats admit this instead of trying to blame others?

Bill Clinton vetoed this law twice before he finally buckled to the will of the American people and signed it. The polls were overwhelmingly in favor of it to such a degree that Clinton decided signed it. Then when he signed it he told Democrat leaders he would later gut it when no one was looking.

Well, the American people and the Republicans continued watching Clinton. He never had the chance to gut it. Now, the first Democrat President since Clinton decides to gut it and he won’t even admit that that’s what he wants to do. He blames the governors, saying he’s just doing it for them. What a weasel obama is!

Why can’t Democrats admit that they don’t like the work requirement in the welfare reform law?????

Read for yourself, Obama did not gut anything. It's just more Mormon rewriting of history! Just like the Garden of Eaden is in MO. If you believe that, I guess you'll believe what ever Mitt says.

[anon_de_plume]

Originally Posted by deviousdave

Obama has been mediocre at best, catastrophically bad at worst, depending on your point of view. Fortunately for the Democrats, the Republican party is a shambles, and has come up with one of the most pathetic candidates in history. I really think Obama is going to win, and win comfortably, despite being one of the least successful presidents in modern history.

And IMHO, most of Obama's failure is due to Republican stonewalling. Hell, even bills that the Republicans initiated, they ended up voting against it when they found Obama supported them.

[anon_de_plume]

You obviously didn't read the article, as it specifically states that Obama did not gut the work requirements...

Originally Posted by McDick

Obama gutted the work requirement in welfare reform. That’s fine. Democrats don’t believe in the work requirement. Democrats have always been opposed to the work requirement. Republicans have always supported it.

But then he blames his own actions on some Republican governor. What a little weasel our President is, always pointing his finger at someone else as if he has no choice but to just follow orders from Republican governors. What a phony he is.

Why can’t Democrats admit that they don’t like the work requirement in the welfare reform law? Why do they have to lie about it? Why are they such hypocrites?

The fact is that Democrats don’t want there to be a work requirement to welfare. They don’t believe in it. They never have. Why can’t they admit it? They don’t want welfare recipients to work. They don’t want welfare recipients to have to look for work. They don’t want welfare recipients to have to receive job training. They never have. Why can’t Democrats admit this instead of trying to blame others?

Bill Clinton vetoed this law twice before he finally buckled to the will of the American people and signed it. The polls were overwhelmingly in favor of it to such a degree that Clinton decided signed it. Then when he signed it he told Democrat leaders he would later gut it when no one was looking.

Well, the American people and the Republicans continued watching Clinton. He never had the chance to gut it. Now, the first Democrat President since Clinton decides to gut it and he won’t even admit that that’s what he wants to do. He blames the governors, saying he’s just doing it for them. What a weasel obama is!

Why can’t Democrats admit that they don’t like the work requirement in the welfare reform law?????

[anon_de_plume]

Guess we can assume that you support "lying while Republican"...

Originally Posted by clarise

David Axelrod and The State Teleprompter trot out a deflection and/or lie each and every Friday.

And after Reid and his bullshit, anything goes.

McCain was a wuss who never took off the gloves.

From now to November, Romney should say any damned thing. Any damned thing at all.

Sheesh.

[anotheruser1]

What I don't get is why everyone is arguing over dems/reps when they are working together to make the US a Communist police state. It doesn't matter who is elected, the government has plans to ship off millions to built and empty concentration camps.

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by anotheruser1

What I don't get is why everyone is arguing over dems/reps when they are working together to make the US a Communist police state. It doesn't matter who is elected, the government has plans to ship off millions to built and empty concentration camps.

Thank God someone else sees it.

[ridgerunner]

the american political machine is just that a machine it cannot be stopped by people just begging for change you have to do something about it
and no i dont mean drastic measures

start with low level offices and work up

hell provide a homeless person with a mailing adress so that they can vote
dont be suckered into thinking that you have to vote for one of the party candidates

demand a full disolvment of the electoral college

only by demanding and unrelenting wills can we ever subject real change in any form of government in any nation


demand that all imported products be taxed
demand that all foriegn aid is ended
demand that all those that do not add to the american tax base be disallowed from the benifiets of citizenship
demand that all aid to illegals be ended in all formats
temporarily close the borders to new immigrants even "political refugees"
cut the tax cut for those that make over $100,000/ year and end all loopholes
and maybe enact a flat tax rate

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by ridgerunner

the american political machine is just that a machine it cannot be stopped by people just begging for change you have to do something about it
and no i dont mean drastic measures

start with low level offices and work up

hell provide a homeless person with a mailing adress so that they can vote
dont be suckered into thinking that you have to vote for one of the party candidates

demand a full disolvment of the electoral college

only by demanding and unrelenting wills can we ever subject real change in any form of government in any nation


demand that all imported products be taxed
demand that all foriegn aid is ended
demand that all those that do not add to the american tax base be disallowed from the benifiets of citizenship
demand that all aid to illegals be ended in all formats
temporarily close the borders to new immigrants even "political refugees"
cut the tax cut for those that make over $100,000/ year and end all loopholes
and maybe enact a flat tax rate

Exactly, Even though I make over $100,000 a year I would gladly pay more taxes as long as the government cuts the wasted spending on things like foregin aid,$20 for a $0.16 washer, proxey wars,ect I think a flat tax is more fair to the middle class and poor though. I'm sick of seeing American soldiers and my fellow Marines fighting and dying for corprate wars. Afghanistan was one thing but Iraq was a waste and I faught em' both.

[ridgerunner]

why did the us go to iraq?
land and water.............why oil

this whole deal in the mid-east is over bullshit
and romney wants to go into syria!!!!!!!!

mitt claimed $20million last year and payed 14% tax
i made just under 10% of that and payed 47%

currently i have 170+ friends and family deployed and have already lost more than we could afford

rush and ayne and all of the idiots spouting thier bullshit war propaganda can kiss my ass

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by ridgerunner

why did the us go to iraq?
land and water.............why oil

this whole deal in the mid-east is over bullshit
and romney wants to go into syria!!!!!!!!

currently i have 170+ friends and family deployed and have already lost more than we could afford

rush and ayne and all of the idiots spouting thier bullshit war propaganda can kiss my ass

Damn Straight! All of my friends are deployed right now. I lost 3 of my best friends and they had wives and children I help their families alot when they'll let me. Romney doesn't just want to go to Syria he also wants to go to Iran if Isreal attacks.

[anotheruser1]

Originally Posted by shyguyy2

Thank God someone else sees it.

I have for a long time, but I am criticized by 99.9% of xnxx for providing proof. So I just gave up. The only fact that matters in all this political arguing is that the federal government has turned on the people and are prepared to kill us if needed to get what they want.

[tommyturtle]

If they kill me, I will stop paying taxes.

[Rixer]

Reject the 2 party system. It's all lies.

[steve_vme]

Originally Posted by anon_de_plume

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/20...attack-ad?lite

I hope this link posts...

and I hope you read it. Please ignore the source and concentrate on the content. While I have not been happy with Obama thus far, but I can't believe the levels of mendacity that the GOP, a once Grand Old Party, has stooped or risen to, take your pick.

If Romney its willing to tell such demonstrably blatant lies during the campaign, then will we even be able to trust him to tell us that the sun rises in the east?

They all lie, nothing new about this.

The earliest record of slavery, racism, can be traced back 6000 B.C. and have been lying for 8000 years now.

[tommyturtle]

Originally Posted by anon_de_plume

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/20...attack-ad?lite

I hope this link posts...

and I hope you read it. Please ignore the source and concentrate on the content. While I have not been happy with Obama thus far, but I can't believe the levels of mendacity that the GOP, a once Grand Old Party, has stooped or risen to, take your pick.

If Romney its willing to tell such demonstrably blatant lies during the campaign, then will we even be able to trust him to tell us that the sun rises in the east?

How can the source not be considered? If I were to use Glenn Beck as a source of a story would you ignore the source and only consider the content? I think not.