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Old 08-11-2012, 05:59 PM   #2301
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I never said half of Americans don't pay income taxes; I said half of Americans don't pay MEANINGFUL income taxes. The average tax rate paid by the bottom half of Americans is 1.85%, and represents just 2.3% of all taxes paid. That's about $500 a year based on an approximate $30,000 in income.

The top 10% of earners pay 70% of the taxes, the average tax rate for them is over 18%, and works out to about $20,000 a year based on a $112,000 annual income.

So, yeah, someone wants to give those greedy bastards a tax break, I got no issue with it.
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Well, would you consider "meaningful" to be less than 2% of income, or about $500 a year? Especially when considering the $20,000 tab the top 10% paid?


SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT, TOM

IT APPEARS PEOPLE WITH LITTLE OR NO MONEY PAY LESS IN TAXES, BUT THOSE WITH LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY PAY MORE. CLEARLY THERE IS SOME SORT OF INJUSTICE HERE, AND POOR PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.

WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THIS AT 7

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Old 08-13-2012, 05:58 PM   #2302
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This is hilarious to me at least because I predicted Sarah Palin was done in politics even before she and McCain lost. But not this not only proves that its also a very big statement on just how much power the Tea Party DOES NOT HAVE.

Sarah Palin Not Speaking At Republican Convention

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Biden's Dumb, But Administration's Policies Are Dumber

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Leadership: A global tax is the latest example of the idiocy that defines Joseph Biden's vice presidency. Dopiness a heartbeat away from the presidency shouldn't be tolerated.
If Arnold Schwarzenegger is the Terminator, promising "I'll be back," the best moniker for Joe Biden might be "the Dumb-Biden-ator," with the motto "I'll be stupid."
At a Davenport, Iowa, manufacturing plant last week, Biden declared "We're not done" of the Obama economic program that has saddled Americans with a $1.3 trillion deficit and $15 trillion national debt, with plenty more to come.
"We want to create what's called a global minimum tax," he said, "because American taxpayers shouldn't be providing a larger subsidy for investing abroad than investing at home."
According to the White House, this refers to all U.S. companies being subjected to a minimum tax on overseas profits, to prevent them from taking advantage of other countries' low tax rates. President Obama's National Economic Council director Gene Sperling also used the term "global minimum tax" last month.
But considering this administration's hostility to American exceptionalism, for all we know U.S. businesses could find themselves a couple of years from now subject to taxation dictated by corrupt international bodies like the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund or the World Bank. ObamaCare proves that you never can be sure what this president and his minions are really up to.
The Washington Examiner's Byron York notes that last Thursday evening at a Chicago Democratic fundraiser, with former Democratic Chicago Mayor Richard Daley nearby, Biden boasted, "I never had an interest in being a mayor 'cause that's a real job. You have to produce. That's why I was able to be a senator for 36 years."
That may sound like nothing more than a self-deprecating jest. But in fact, liberals like Biden and Obama get up to the mischief they do with your trillions in tax dollars because they don't understand that in the real world of the private sector people really do produce. And that the more Washington takes from the producers, the less they produce, and fewer jobs are created.
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At the same Iowa campaign event, Biden thanked "Dr. Pepper" when referring to Scott Community College President Dr. Theresa Paper. But back during the 2008 campaign the future VP told Katie Couric that "when the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"
It was Herbert Hoover, however, who was president in 1929, and television was still in the laboratory.
Of Obama sending in Navy SEALS after Osama bin Laden, Biden absurdly claimed, "You can go back 500 years; you cannot find a more audacious plan." How about the Normandy invasion, Mr. Vice President? Or the Spanish Armada?
The only thing worse than the media's downplaying Biden's regular blunders is their failure to expose the bankrupt policies behind them.
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Sarah Palin accepts RNC's invitation for her to not be there

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Mitt Romney cancels Orlando appearance due to 'exhaustion,' or not.

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Boehner thinks President Obama is in charge of the weather?

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House Speaker John Boehner might be spending a little too much time drowning his sorrows over the utter dysfunction he'll have to face again when August recess is over. Earlier today, President Obama took aim at Paul Ryan and his House leadership team for failing to pass a farm bill to help farmers and ranchers in this record heat and drought.


Get this. Boehner responded to Obama's criticism by saying the drought is all Obama's fault. Really.

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Mrs. Palin. At the Republican National Convention we request the pleasure of your absence.

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Fact Check: Questionable claims when Mitt Romney introduces running mate

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(AP) WASHINGTON - In his debut as Mitt Romney's running mate, Paul Ryan promised "America's comeback team" won't duck tough budget issues, although the man standing next to him has kept his head low so far. Romney vowed the duo would "preserve" Medicare, an eye-popping claim considering Ryan wants to transform the program from the ground up.


Not all the rhetoric fit neatly with reality or with the record when Romney introduced his Republican vice presidential choice to the nation Saturday. A look at some of the claims by the Wisconsin congressman and Romney, and how they compare with the facts.
ROMNEY: "Unlike the current president, who has cut Medicare funding by $700 billion, we will preserve and protect Medicare and Social Security and keep them there for future generations."


THE FACTS: You could fill an arena with all the details left out in this statement. Ryan's reputation as a fiscal conservative is built on a budget plan that would overhaul the Medicare program and introduce a voucher-like plan that future retirees could use to buy private health insurance. Whether that results in a better or worse situation for Medicare recipients is a matter of debate. But under Ryan's plan, traditional Medicare would no longer be the health insurance mainstay, just one of many competing options.


The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates the Ryan plan — which Romney endorsed in broad strokes in the past — would slow the increases in money for seniors. A typical 66-year-old would receive about 35 percent more than last year — $7,400 in 2011 dollars. Under current law, that person would probably receive at least 56 percent more in 2030, and quite possibly 75 percent more — $9,600 in 2011 dollars. The CBO said his plan grows spending for Medicare enrollees "at a much slower rate" than under current law or other policy scenarios. In Washington, a slower increase in spending is tantamount to a spending cut.


Romney's assertion that the team would preserve Social Security left out the fact that he proposes significant change. He would protect the status quo for people 55 and over but, for the next generations of retirees, raise the retirement age for full benefits by one or two years and reduce inflation increases in benefits for wealthier recipients. At least with this program, he has offered more specifics than President Barack Obama has in dealing with the entitlement's long-term financing shortfall, though neither has laid out a comprehensive solution.


As for his accusation that the president cut Medicare, Obama's health care law does cut billions from the Medicare Advantage program, hospitals and nursing homes, to pay for expanded insurance coverage.
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RYAN on Romney: "As governor of Massachusetts, he worked with Democrats and Republicans to balance budgets with no tax increases, lower unemployment, increase income and improve people's lives."
THE FACTS: For a Massachusetts governor, balancing a budget is a requirement of state law.


Ryan's claim that Romney didn't raise taxes to comply with Massachusetts' yearly balanced budget requirement is also misleading. While Romney didn't raise state income or sales taxes, he worked with the state's Democratic-controlled legislature to raise hundreds of millions of dollars through new or raised fees on marriage licenses, gun licenses and much more. Romney also closed what he called business tax "loopholes," raising between $350 million and $375 million annually for three years. Many in the Massachusetts business community said they saw the maneuver as a tax increase by a different name.


And while Romney himself didn't raise income taxes, he benefited from a huge $1.1 billion tax hike passed by Democrats the year before he took office. It was responsible for roughly half of the deficit Romney helped cut in his first year in office.
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ROMNEY: "We offer solutions that are bold, specific, and achievable."
RYAN: "The commitment Mitt Romney and I make to you is this: We won't duck the tough issues, we will lead."


THE FACTS: So far, vital specifics are missing from Romney as he pledges broad cuts in federal spending, but more money for the armed forces, and significant tax cuts. He proposes to cap federal spending at 20 percent of gross domestic product by the end of a first term, an ambitious goal that is not fleshed out with the painful choices that will be necessary for that to happen.


If current Social Security and Medicare beneficiaries are protected, domestic Cabinet agency budgets would have to take a hit in ways that could reshape government to its core. Health research, transportation, homeland security, education, food inspection, housing and heating subsidies for the poor, food aid for pregnant women, grants to local governments and national parks are among the programs that would be at risk of substantial cuts.


Romney promises to cut a wide swath of spending by 5 percent immediately, but independent analysts say the cuts would have to be far deeper to meet budget goals and would be certain to meet stiff resistance in Congress.
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RYAN on Obama: "And in his first two years, with his party in complete control of Washington, he passed nearly every item on his agenda, but that didn't make things better. "


THE FACTS: Obama succeeded in achieving a stimulus plan, the automakers' bailout, his health care law, new rules in the financial services sector and more. But he had failures, too, a promised immigration overhaul and climate change legislation among them. Ryan's assertion that the Obama agenda "didn't make things better" is primarily a political judgment call. But no one seriously argues that the stimulus plan or the auto bailout made no difference at all. The question is whether such spending was worth the gains that were made.


Obama's $800 billion-plus stimulus, enacted in February 2009, created both public-sector and private-sector jobs, even if not as many as its sponsors had hoped. The director of the Congressional Budget Office, Douglas Elmendorf, estimated that the stimulus saved or created more than 3 million jobs. Princeton University economist Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, estimated that the stimulus, together with the bank bailout started by President George W. Bush and continued by Obama, saved or created more than 10 million jobs. An earlier CBO analysis estimated that stimulus trimmed the unemployment rate by 0.7 to 1.8 percentage points.
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ROMNEY on Ryan- "And throughout his legislative career he's shown the ability to work with members of both parties to find common ground on some of the hardest issues confronting the American people."


THE FACTS: Not exactly. Ryan enjoyed a reputation as a consistent, if occasionally plucky, conservative before Obama took office in 2008. Ryan was known for occasionally bucking his party on social issues and foreign policy. In 2007, for example, he voted with Democrats for a bill prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. He has also enjoyed a lifelong friendship with former liberal Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold, whose father worked in the same office as Ryan's father in Janesville, Wis.


But particularly since Obama's election, Ryan's been something of a no-compromise-congressman: He's emerged as a leading intellectual force in the conservative opposition to Obama, joined unanimous blocks of Republicans in opposing Obama's biggest pieces of legislation and given little ground in negotiations over the budget and the deficit. Budget blueprints he released in 2011 and 2012 as House Budget Committee chairman were viewed as anathema to rank-and-file Democrats because of their cuts to social programs, not as carrots designed to get bipartisan consensus. In 2011, he criticized the work of a bipartisan group of senators, known as the Gang of Six, who were working on a budget compromise of their own.


Ryan did work with Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon in 2011, on a proposal for changes to Medicare that would allow private plans to compete with Medicare. But Wyden was the only prominent Democrat to support that plan and, in the end, Wyden himself did not support Ryan's larger budget plans, which included the Medicare component, when they were released later in 2012.
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RYAN: "I'm proud to stand with a man who understands what it takes to foster job creation in our economy, someone who knows from experience, that if you have a small business — you did build that."


THE FACTS: Ryan, like Romney and scores of Republicans in recent weeks, has used comments Obama made at July 13 campaign appearance in Virginia against him. But the rhetorical jab takes Obama out of context. Republicans have seized on only part of Obama's quote — "If you've got a business, you didn't build that" — but the full quote makes clear Obama is talking about the conditions that help businesses and individuals succeed, such as teachers and infrastructure.


The more complete quote from Obama: "If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business — you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...-running-mate/


Opps Romney and Ryan don't fact check so well. Thank God brainwashed parrots are a minority.
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"It's Vice President-elect Joe Biden's birthday today. And Barack Obama bought him 12 cupcakes for his birthday, which is a smart gift to give Biden because when his mouth is full of cupcakes he can't say anything stupid." Craig Ferguson
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"It's Vice President-elect Joe Biden's birthday today. And Barack Obama bought him 12 cupcakes for his birthday, which is a smart gift to give Biden because when his mouth is full of cupcakes he can't say anything stupid." Craig Ferguson
I was about to look that up on the internet, when I saw Craig Ferguson's name. You cannot even compose a low grade joke. You need to steal it from the internet.

Are you capable of filling one computer screen with your own writing and your own thinking, expressed in complete sentences devoid of errors of grammar and spelling?
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I was about to look that up on the internet, when I saw Craig Ferguson's name. You cannot even compose a low grade joke. You need to steal it from the internet.

Are you capable of filling one computer screen with your own writing and your own thinking, expressed in complete sentences devoid of errors of grammar and spelling?
Hey loser, why don't you go find someone who cares about what you think or say.....

Why don't you go buy some candy and head on down to the playground in your van?

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Now that's funny and predictable,,Romney's campaign needs to stay on schedule and script,, afraid that Sarah will take the spot light away from Romney's message,,what a joke that Romney campaign is........
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Uh oh,,,now the truth;



If President Obama were serious about helping farmers and ranchers address the ongoing drought, why doesn’t he urge Senate Democrats to pass the bipartisan House measure that was approved 11 days ago?

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Instead, the president continues to blame anyone and everyone for failing to respond to the drought but himself.* Here’s a few quick facts that President Obama wants you to ignore today:
  • Eleven days ago, the House passed a bipartisan bill to help livestock producers devastated by the drought;
  • The Democratic-controlled Senate refused to take up this bipartisan bill before it adjourned for the August district work period;
  • According to press reports, the President would have signed this bill – but Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) and Senate Democrats refused to act, leaving livestock producers high-and-dry over August; and
  • See New York Times here: “The White House would have considered the House measure, but [Stabenow] resisted, Senate aides said.”
Ahead of President Obama’s visit to Iowa today – as was reported in the New York Times – Speaker Boehner made clear that the House took bipartisan action to help farmers and ranchers – a fact that the president conveniently likes to forget:
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Now that's funny and predictable,,Romney's campaign needs to stay on schedule and script,, afraid that Sarah will take the spot light away from Romney's message,,what a joke that Romney campaign is........
That's what I've been saying too. Sarah Palin was actually just another never was who was very crafty but rather stupid when it came to extending her 15 minutes of fame.

But now thank God Ace we progressive/liberal/Democrats don't need Sarah Palin around anymore to win our battles for us anymore than the conservative/Republicans/Tea Party needs her.

Now we Paul Ryan to win our battles for us.

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If President Obama were serious about helping farmers and ranchers address the ongoing drought, why doesn’t he urge Senate Democrats to pass the bipartisan House measure that was approved 11 days ago?

http://www.speaker.gov/general/why-d...drought-relief
I'll have to look it up but from what President Obama was saying in Iowa today its because Paul Ryan and the obstructionists in congress are refusing to pass the comprehensive farm bill instead of trying to pay off their own constituents.

Now you want to see something funny. Here's Paul Ryan trying to dodge his own budget in Fox News no less.

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That's what I've been saying too. Sarah Palin was actually just another never was who was very crafty but rather stupid when it came to extending her 15 minutes of fame.

But now thank God Ace we progressive/liberal/Democrats don't need Sarah Palin around anymore to win our battles for us anymore than the conservative/Republicans/Tea Party needs her.

Now we Paul Ryan to win our battles for us.



I'll have to look it up but from what President Obama was saying in Iowa today its because Paul Ryan and the obstructionists in congress are refusing to pass the comprehensive farm bill instead of trying to pay off their own constituents.

Now you want to see something funny. Here's Paul Ryan trying to dodge his own budget in Fox News no less.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...ew.php?ref=fpa
  • Eleven days ago, the House passed a bipartisan bill to help livestock producers devastated by the drought;
  • The Democratic-controlled Senate refused to take up this bipartisan bill before it adjourned for the August district work period;
What did Obama say about it again???


Paul Ryan has already adjusted his budget plan, changing what needed to be changed.

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  • Eleven days ago, the House passed a bipartisan bill to help livestock producers devastated by the drought;
  • The Democratic-controlled Senate refused to take up this bipartisan bill before it adjourned for the August district work period;
What did Obama say about it again???
President Obama said he might have signed it but the democrats objected to the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers trying to cut funding from other needed programs just to try and buy votes in the farm belt.

And I'm with them all the way on that.


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That's hilarious Ace.

Both Romney and Ryan are now running away from the Paul Ryan Buudget.

Romney + Ryan = More Budget Math Confusion Than Ever

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When Mitt Romney picked Paul Ryan as his running mate, he pledged a new “campaign of substance” that would finally silence critics who’ve attacked his policy proposals as unworkably vague. But far from clarifying his platform, Romney’s positions have become even more confusing since Ryan joined the ticket.



Ryan’s choice was intended to bolster Romney’s promise to cut spending. In a bizarre twist, however, the only concrete policy change since Ryan joined the ticket has been a new promise to reverse $716 billion of Medicare savings enacted under the Affordable Care Act, complicating an already fantastical promise by Romney to balance the budget within eight years.



The politics of Romney’s Medicare pledge were clear: Ryan’s call to privatize Medicare and reduce its average benefits puts Romney on the defensive, especially in senior-heavy states like Florida. But the policy side is gibberish. House Republicans have twice passed budgets that included the same $716 billion in cuts. Both budgets were written by Ryan himself, and Romney previously pledged to sign them if elected.

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MSNBC Host Calls Out Iowa Governor For Lying About Obama’s Welfare Waivers

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The Romney campaign spent last week claiming that the Obama administration is trying to “gut” the welfare reform law of the 90s. The Romney camp portrayed the administration as removing the work requirements included in that law, when all the administration did is offer states waivers to design new work programs if they choose.
During an interview with MSNBC’s Chuck Todd today, Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad continued the parade of falsehoods, continually claiming that the administration single-handedly weakened work requirements in the welfare law, despite Todd’s protestations:
BRANSTAD: We reformed welfare in the 1990s, now the Obama administration’s trying to undo the work requirement.

TODD: Wait a minute, Gov. Branstad, I can’t let that go. They haven’t done that. [Crosstalk] You leveled a charge about the welfare work requirement. It turns out that’s not true. Where did you get your information?


BRANSTAD: It absolutely is. I was one of the governors that helped get it, and when we passed it, it was designed not to be waived. And now the President of the United States has, by executive order in July, weakened that which was very effective.


TODD: The waivers are for state governors. The waivers are for you. [...] If governors weaken it to a certain point, the federal government yanks the waiver. [...] Nothing about this issue, every charge that has been leveled about this welfare reform order that the president signed, every accusation that has been leveled by some Republicans have been proven to be not true.

BRANSTAD: Well, the fact of the matter is that the president did it. He didn’t have to take this action to weaken the strong work requirement that was passed.
TODD: It doesn’t weaken it…The works still there, governor, it’s still there.
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Former President Bill Clinton, who signed the welfare reform law, called Romney’s charges “disappointing” and “not true.” CBS’s AdWatch added, “It’s a leap to assume that governors and legislators will seek to return to ‘plain old welfare’ and that the Obama administration will give them the go-ahead.”


When he wasn’t lying about how the welfare waivers would operate, Branstad was praising the 90s welfare reform law, which, in reality, has rendered aid programs incapable of getting funds to those who need it most in an economic downturn. Welfare aid used to reach 75 percent of families living in poverty, but during the heart of the Great Recession, fewer than 30 percent of impoverished families received help.

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Oh fuck I have to laugh at Mitt Romney and his campaign several times a day now.

Romney Cites Deficit Co-Chair Who Says His Plan Would ‘Raise Taxes On The Middle Class’

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Mitt Romney is decrying as “garbage” an unfavorable analysis of his tax plan by citing a deficit hawk who has endorsed the study’s conclusion: he agrees that the Republican nominee’s plan would “raise taxes on the middle class.”


In an interview with Fortune magazine published Wednesday, Romney attacked the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center’s finding that fulfilling his budget promises would require asking 95 percent of Americans to pay more in taxes. “They made garbage assumptions and they reached a garbage conclusion,” he said.


“Simpson-Bowles laid out a formula that shows that you can do just as I described,” Romney continued, referring to the 2010 bipartisan fiscal commission. “That you can bring down the rates, limit deductions and exemptions for people at the high end, and with additional growth that comes by virtue of the stimulative action you can reach a balanced budget.”


But the commission’s co-chair, Erskine Bowles, has repeatedly said it’s not mathematically possible to meet Romney’s goals without asking the middle class to pay more in taxes.


“The Romney plan, by sticking to revenue-neutrality and leaving in place tax breaks, would raise taxes on the middle class and do nothing to shrink the deficit,” Bowles wrote in a Washington Post op-ed last week.

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I know we on the left are rolling on the floor and laughing over this but many on Wall Street and the Banks I bet aren't.

Romney: ‘No One Is Talking About Deregulating Wall Street’

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Vice President Joe Biden said yesterday during a speech that a Romney administration would “let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street.” “He is going to put y’all back in chains,” Biden added. During an interview on CBS Wednesday, Romney was asked for his reaction to the comment. Romney responded by claiming that Biden’s charge is “factually inaccurate” because “nobody is talking about deregulating Wall Street”:
ROMNEY: Of course, we have to have regulation on Wall Street and on every street to make sure that our economy works well, so it’s factually inaccurate to begin with. [...] The comments of the Vice President, as I heard them, were one more example of a divisive effort to keep from talking about the real issues. Look, no one is talking about deregulating Wall Street.
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But Romney, on many occasions, has called for the repeal of the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform law, the first significant reform of the nation’s financial system since the Great Depression. In it’s place, all Romney’s economic plan calls for is a “streamlined regulatory framework.” The only specific aspects that Romney says he would implement are already in Dodd-Frank, which Romney admits in his plan.


Meanwhile, the House Republican budget written by Romney’s running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), dismantles key parts of the Dodd-Frank law. The GOP budget would render the government once again incapable of dismantling a failing financial firm, forcing it to resort to the same bailouts employed in 2008. Until Romney provides an alternative, his plan is nothing but deregulation of the sort that led to the 2008 financial crisis in the first place.

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Joe Biden – America’s First Openly Retarded Vice President!
Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:51


Saying Joe Biden is a stupid idjit is like saying Michael Moore is politely plump. Or Whoopi Goldberg is merely homely. Michael Moore was recently arrested for impersonating Jabba the Hutt. And Whoopi…dear God…ooo-ga-leee! With those stupid dreadlocks, Whoopi looks like the Predator…on a bad day! Whoopi scares small children…who have yet to be born!
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The major question concerning Biden’s mental acuity is whether he is really just THAT stupid or is it because he’s an old, tired libtard whose brain has rotted with inane Democrat talking points over the decades he has spent infecting Washington. If Joe Biden is the best Delaware’s got to offer….Great Googly Moogly! I ain’t ever taking my big sexy ass anywhere close to that burg! Not that I would anyway. Some of that stupid might rub off!
Biden has been released by Obama to entertain us with his Bidenisms on the campaign trail. You know you’re a mental disaster zone when you have a common description, “Bidenisms,” to describe all the crazy sh*t you say in public. Allowing Joe out of his cage also shows how pathetically stupid Obama and his puppet masters are. Ask yourself, would you let Joe Biden anywhere near a microphone and a camera if you were running for office? After listening to Biden over the past four years, I have actually found myself praying for Barack Obama’s health! I crap you negative! Obama is astronomically horrible as President. But Biden? Sheee-ut!
Today, Biden told the morons in Danville, Virginia who attended his campaign stop:
“They’re going to put y’all back in chains.”
What’s sad is the mongrels in attendance believed him! Tomorrow, we’ll see Nancy Pelosi on MSLSD saying “oh, yes, Romney and Ryan will put everyone in chains before pushing them off the cliff.” And to think Dims ridiculed Dan Quayle for misspelling ‘potato.’
Biden later told the people “we can win North Carolina” while in Virginia. Poor thing doesn’t even know where he is anymore. Bless his little stupid heart!
Here’s VP Bozo in action:Not content at making a total ass of himself, he even ridiculed the sign language interpreter:
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I guess with Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Fwank, Dennis Kucinich, Butter-hair Wasserman Schultz and countless others, perhaps Biden doesn’t sound all that wacko after all…for a Dim. People, I present you the modern-day Democrat Party!
Liberals long ago cornered the market on stupid. Nothing they do makes any sense. Nor does it work. The only people more stupid than the current pile of Dims in Washington are the morons who actually vote for them! These voters are long past the dumbing down of America. Hell, they’re well past the stupiding down of America! If you live in a blue state, watch your step on election day. You might step in a huge puddle of drool!
AWD fully expects Biden in the next few weeks to say that Romney and Ryan will castrate all black males, crucify liberal Jews, send old people to their secret Republican concentration camps, and behead anyone who isn’t a Republican (he borrowed that from the Muslims). Even sadder, liberal voters will believe him!
Here’s the average liberal voter (this has been shown on AWD before. If you haven’t watched this, it’s a must-see):
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Joe Biden has set a new low in America. It will be hard for anyone to break his world record on monumental stupidity. But I guaran-damn-tee you the one who does will be a Democrat. Stupid, it’s what they do. And there are so many more waiting in the wings!
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Rather have a slightly retarded VP than one that is inherently evil like Cheney or Ryan.
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..........Shooter wants to follow the debate raging in this thread.
He wants to learn about the candidates and their positions

Unfortunately what he hears is............

blah, blah, blah, blah, Biden is an idiot.......blah, blah, blah

Blah, blah, blah, Romney is a murderer blah, blah, blah, blah

blah, blah, blah, blah, Obama is a terrorist.......blah, blah, blah

Blah, blah, blah, Ryan is an idiot......... blah, blah, blah, blah

No rational debate at all, just hate mongering
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Black ex-gov of Va slams Biden for 'chains' remark

Published August 15, 2012
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RICHMOND, Va. – The nation's first elected black governor, Doug Wilder of Virginia, has lambasted Vice President Joe Biden on national television for his comment Tuesday about banks keeping people "in chains."
Wilder, a Democrat and a grandson of slaves, echoed indignant Republican claims that Biden's remarks before a largely black crowd in Danville, Va., brought racism into the presidential race.
In railing against Republican efforts to undo Obama administration regulations reining in Wall Street after the 2008 stock market meltdown, Biden said the GOP wants to "unchain Wall Street."
Then, Biden added, "they're going to put y'all back in chains."
Wilder said he felt Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would have made a better Obama running mate and called on Biden to "cool it, back up" and admit that he was wrong.





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RICHMOND, Va. – The nation's first elected black governor, Doug Wilder of Virginia, has lambasted Vice President Joe Biden on national television for his comment Tuesday about banks keeping people "in chains."
Wilder, a Democrat and a grandson of slaves, echoed indignant Republican claims that Biden's remarks before a largely black crowd in Danville, Va., brought racism into the presidential race.
In railing against Republican efforts to undo Obama administration regulations reining in Wall Street after the 2008 stock market meltdown, Biden said the GOP wants to "unchain Wall Street."
Then, Biden added, "they're going to put y'all back in chains."
Wilder said he felt Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would have made a better Obama running mate and called on Biden to "cool it, back up" and admit that he was wrong.





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What a crock of shit,, only a true racist would relate ''chains and slavery'' together,,Biden is to dumb to just 'stumble' into that characterization and generalization.
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See GOP Lie. Lie, GOP, Lie. You Can't Escape the Ryan Plan

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Now this is more ignorant and repulsive than it is hilarious but it sure shows how stupid the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers can really be.

Missouri GOP Senate Nominee: Women Who Are Victims of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant

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“First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”



Akin went on to explain that even if the worst happens and the supposed natural protections against unwanted pregnancy don’t work, abortion should still not be a legal option for the rape victim.

“Let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something,” Akin said. “I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”


Video, clipped by the Democratic tracking outfit American Bridge (the full interview is below):
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...ref=fpnewsfeed
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President Obama said he might have signed it but the democrats objected to the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers trying to cut funding from other needed programs just to try and buy votes in the farm belt.

And I'm with them all the way on that.




That's hilarious Ace.

Both Romney and Ryan are now running away from the Paul Ryan Buudget.

Romney + Ryan = More Budget Math Confusion Than Ever




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Think progress/Huffington post must have missed this poll!!
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Mitt Romney announced Ryan as his running mate on Saturday, and following the resulting blast of media exposure, Ryan’s favorables are up. Fifty percent (50%) of Likely U.S. Voters now have a favorable opinion of him, compared to 39% just prior to Romney’s announcement.


Democrats quickly seized on Ryan’s reputation as a budget hawk in the House of Representative and portrayed his Medicare reform proposal as a threat to seniors. But early state polling suggests that argument isn’t working. In fact, 54% of seniors in Florida fear President Obama’s national health care law more than Ryan’s Medicare proposal. The findings were similar in Wisconsin.
Following the Ryan announcement, Romney leads the president 45% to 43% in Florida and 48% to 47% in Wisconsin. The two run dead even at 45% apiece in Ohio. But the race has been close in all three states which remain Toss-Ups in the Rasmussen Reports Electoral College Projections.
Now this is where we are at NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Think progress/Huffington post must have missed this poll!!
Now this is where we are at NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to Real Clear Politics Obama is ahead by one percent.

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Now this is more ignorant and repulsive than it is hilarious but it sure shows how stupid the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers can really be.

Missouri GOP Senate Nominee: Women Who Are Victims of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant


http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...ref=fpnewsfeed
The Conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers are trying to run away from Rep. Todd Akin's assertion that women victims of "legitimate" rape don't get pregnant but the truth is this completely bogus and destructive claim has been part of the anti-abortion conservatives for years as a ploy to opposed all abortions including victims of rape and/or incest.

‘God’s Little Shield’: A Short History Of The False No-Pregnancy-From-Rape Theory

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Rep. Todd Akin is far from the only conservative to suggest women rarely get pregnant from rape. He’s not even the first lawmaker to make the assertion (which flies in the face of medical evidence).


A search of news archives by TPM shows a short history of Republican politicians espousing the idea of a biological defense against pregnancy in cases of rape, though there’s little consistency in their explanations of how such a mechanism works.


In 1988, Stephen Freind, a state representative in Delaware, defended his no-exceptions anti-abortion stance — as Akin was doing Sunday — by claiming that it was virtually impossible for a woman who is raped to become pregnant.


“The odds are one in millions and millions and millions,” Freind said in a debate in March of that year. “And there is a physical reason for that.”
Freind said that women possess a “certain secretion” that kills sperm.
“Rape, obviously, is a traumatic experience. When that traumatic experience is undergone, a woman secretes a certain secretion, which has a tendency to kill sperm.”


Freind promised to provide scientific documentation of his theory and told a cheering crowd later that month, “If you’re expecting me to back off, the answer is no.”


Seven years later, a state legislator in North Carolina championed the same theory. Henry Aldridge, a Republican state representative, argued for the elimination of a public fund to help poor women pay for abortions by using a similar argument.



“The facts show that people who are raped — who are truly raped — the juices don’t flow, the body functions don’t work and they don’t get pregnant,” Aldridge told the House Appropriations Committee. “Medical authorities agree that this is a rarity, if ever.”


Aldridge was addressing the committee to apologize for “earlier remarks implying that victims of rape or incest are sexually promiscuous,” according to an Associated Press report at the time.
Aldridge, like Freind, did not back down. “To get pregnant, it takes a little cooperation. And there ain’t much cooperation in a rape,” he said.
In 1998, Republican Arkansas state Rep. Fay Boozman botched his own Senate bid against Sen. Blanche Lincoln when he said at a rally that pregnancy resulting from rape was rare. He denied having used the phrase “God’s little shield,” according to the Washington Post.


The next year, Mike Huckabee, then governor of Arkansas, appointed his good friend Boozman to lead the state’s Health Department. Upon becoming health director, Boozman apologized for the comments, saying they were “not statistically based.”



Huckabee, who opposes abortion even in cases of rape, endorsed Akin in the Missouri primary.


Akin, who earlier this month won the Republican Senate nomination in Missouri, said he “misspoke” in a follow-up statement, but he did not disavow the substance of his comments except to acknowledge that rape can in fact result in pregnancy.


One abortion-rights activist said publicizing the false theory can cause even further trauma to rape victims.


“The first time I heard it or saw anything about it it was in a chat room,” Terry O’Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, told TPM. O’Neill recalled that a woman in the chat room said she “struggled to deal with the shame of her sexual assault because she had heard that she was not supposed to get pregnant and that her body sort of had betrayed her.”



“It was a number of years ago,” O’Neill said, “But I just remember thinking, ‘Oh my God that poor woman, where did she hear this?’”

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This is hilarious to me at least. The Romney/Ryan campaign is throwing Todd Akins under the bus while GOP leaders are calling for Atkins to withdraw from his race against Clair McCaskill.

Mitt Romney sleeps on it, decides to be offended

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After Mitt Romney's campaign issued the mildest statement possible to "disagree" with Republican Rep. Todd Akin's statement that women have magical rape sperm protection shields in their ladyparts, Mitt Romney slept on it and decided to clarify his disagreement further with the National Review. (Yeah, the National freakin' Review.)
“Congressman’s Akin comments on rape are insulting, inexcusable, and, frankly, wrong,” Romney said. “Like millions of other Americans, we found them to be offensive.” [...]

“I have an entirely different view,” Romney said. “What he said is entirely without merit and he should correct it.”
Holy crap! Mitt Romney doesn't just disagree; he has an entirely different view! Those are some fightin' words. And it only took him 12 hours to think about it, watch the entire country—including his own party—condemn Akin's statement, and then decide he was offended.

By the way, Mitt still hasn't explained how his view is "entirely different." Todd Akin wants to outlaw abortion in all circumstances; Mitt Romney does too, at least in his current incarnation as Republican presidential candidate in the year 2012. He has a tendency to change his mind on this issue.


But at least Mitt has worked up enough anger to go from disagreement to entirely different view, with some "I'm offended" thrown in. Way to go, Mitt. Maybe a week from now you might even be able to explain why.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...-nbsp-offended
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Here's another story showing just what careless hypocrites the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers can be.

FBI investigates Republican Congressmen’s drunken, naked escapades in Israel

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The FBI has investigated an incident that saw at least one Republican congressman swim naked at a drinking party in Israel last year attended by top leadership staff, Politico reported.


The news website said Representative Kevin Yoder of Kansas stripped and jumped into the Sea of Galilee during the privately-funded trip, joining colleagues and their family members who were partially or fully clothed.


“Regrettably, I jumped into the water without a swimsuit,” Yoder told Politico.

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I doubt if that retard Obama even knows what planet he's on.

Obama will just sit back and take another hit off the crack pipe and blame someone else.


Fact Check: Obama running against outdated version of Ryan Medicare plan

Published August 20, 2012
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  • Aug. 18, 2012: President Obama arrives for a campaign event in Rochester, N.H. (AP)
The Obama campaign would like voters to believe that Paul Ryan's Medicare plan would "end Medicare as we know it" -- privatizing the whole system and costing seniors more than $6,000 extra a year.
But the campaign, even before Ryan was selected as Mitt Romney's running mate, has effectively been running against the wrong Ryan plan.
The president's accusations largely refer to Ryan's 2011 plan, ignoring the fact that the House Budget Committee chairman rolled out a different version in 2012 -- taking into account Democratic critiques. Though the 2012 plan is more moderate, Obama and his surrogates have all but ignored the newer version as they amp up their accusations against the Romney-Ryan ticket.
Most glaringly, the campaign has omitted a key point.
While Ryan's 2011 plan proposes to give seniors a government payment to buy private insurance, his 2012 plan offers seniors a choice.
Under the blueprint, seniors could use the payment to buy private insurance or stay in traditional Medicare.
This distinction rarely comes up at Obama campaign events.
Last week in Davenport, Iowa, Obama again accused Romney-Ryan of wanting to "voucherize the Medicare system."
"They want to turn Medicare into a voucher system," he said. "That means seniors would no longer have the guarantee of Medicare -- they'd get a voucher to buy private insurance. And if it doesn't keep up with costs, well, that's the seniors' problem."
Obama neglected to mention the traditional Medicare option. Under the plan, the two-tiered system would kick in a decade from now.
Another distinction the campaign has chosen not to make is over the average cost to seniors. For months, Obama has cited an estimate that the Republican budget plan would cost Medicare seniors $6,400.
The campaign repeated that claim in a new TV ad released Friday called "Fact."
The ad says: "And experts say his voucher plan could raise future retirees' costs more than $6,000. ... Get the facts."
But that estimate is from early 2011, and refers to Ryan's outdated plan from the same year. Sharp-eyed viewers would see in the latest Obama ad the fine print that attributes the estimate to "Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 4/8/11."
The liberal-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities indeed estimated the old plan could cost seniors $6,400. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office reached a similar conclusion.
However, the CBO this year said it "does not have the capability" to estimate the individual impact of the latest Ryan plan, though it cautioned "beneficiaries might face higher costs."
Still, Obama has continued to campaign off the outdated $6,400 figure.
"Somebody did the analysis -- not us, somebody else," Obama declared Saturday in New Hampshire. "And they estimate that this could force seniors to pay as much as an extra $6,400 a year for their health care."
The Medicare guarantee issue has led to exaggeration on both sides. Fact-check site Politifact rated the oft-repeated claim that Republicans voted to "end Medicare" as the "Lie of the Year" for 2011.
The same site, though, rebuked Romney for trying to use the same line against Obama. The Romney campaign has accused Obama of trying to dismantle Medicare by using billions in cuts to fund the federal health care overhaul. This, wrote Politifact, "takes some shreds of truth and combines them with worst-case-scenario speculations, then deploys overheated language."





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This is hilarious to me at least. The Romney/Ryan campaign is throwing Todd Akins under the bus while GOP leaders are calling for Atkins to withdraw from his race against Clair McCaskill.

Mitt Romney sleeps on it, decides to be offended

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...-nbsp-offended
No doubt they're throwing Akins under the bus because they don't want anyone to remember that Ryan CO-SPONSORED the bill, with Akins, to only allow taxpayer funding (Medicaid) for abortions in cases of "forcible" rape.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...redefine-rape/
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No doubt they're throwing Akins under the bus because they don't want anyone to remember that Ryan CO-SPONSORED the bill, with Akins, to only allow taxpayer funding (Medicaid) for abortions in cases of "forcible" rape.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...redefine-rape/
This is an excellent point and one Romney and Ryan are trying to run away from as fast as they can. But I don't see what good it will do since Ryan and Akins hold the same view. In fact Ryan was a co-sponsor of HR212. And as anyone can see there are no exceptions for rape and incest allowed in this bill.

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To provide that human life shall be deemed to begin with fertilization.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 7, 2011


Mr. BROUN of Georgia (for himself, Mr. AKIN, Mr. ALEXANDER, Mr. BARTLETT, Mr. BISHOP of Utah, Mr. CARTER, Mr. CHAFFETZ, Mr. COLE, Mr. CONAWAY, Mr. FLEMING, Mr. FORBES, Ms. FOXX, Mr. FRANKS of Arizona, Mr. GARRETT, Mr. GINGREY of Georgia, Mr. GOHMERT, Mr. JONES, Mr. KING of Iowa, Mr. KINGSTON, Mr. KLINE, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. LATTA, Mr. MANZULLO, Mr. MARCHANT, Mr. MCHENRY, Mr. MCKINLEY, Mr. MILLER of Florida, Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. NEUGEBAUER, Mr. OLSON, Mr. ROE of Tennessee, Mr. ROGERS of Kentucky, Mr. ROGERS of Alabama, Mr. ROONEY, Mr. SCALISE, Mr. SCHOCK, Mr. TERRY, Mr. THOMPSON of Pennsylvania, Mr. WESTMORELAND, Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. HERGER, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin, Mr. GARY G. MILLER of California, Mr. ADERHOLT, Mr. BACHUS, Mr. CRAWFORD, Mr. LONG, Mr. PEARCE, Mrs. BLACK, Mr. GIBBS, Mr. HUELSKAMP, Mr. LUETKEMEYER, Mr. ROKITA, and Mr. WITTMAN) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILL
To provide that human life shall be deemed to begin with fertilization.
  • Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

  • This Act may be cited as the ‘Sanctity of Human Life Act’.
SEC. 2. DECLARATION.

  • In the exercise of the powers of the Congress, including Congress’ power under article I, section 8 of the Constitution, to make necessary and proper laws, and Congress’ power under section 5 of the 14th article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States--
    • (1) the Congress declares that--
      • (A) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being, and is the paramount and most fundamental right of a person; and
        (B) the life of each human being begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, irrespective of sex, health, function or disability, defect, stage of biological development, or condition of dependency, at which time every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and
      (2) the Congress affirms that the Congress, each State, the District of Columbia, and all United States territories have the authority to protect the lives of all human beings residing in its respective jurisdictions.
SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.

  • For purposes of this Act:
    • (1) FERTILIZATION- The term ‘fertilization’ means the process of a human spermatozoan penetrating the cell membrane of a human oocyte to create a human zygote, a one-celled human embryo, which is a new unique human being.
      (2) CLONING- The term ‘cloning’ means the process called somatic cell nuclear transfer, that combines an enucleated egg and the nucleus of a somatic cell to make a human embryo.
      (3) HUMAN; HUMAN BEING- The terms ‘human’ and ‘human being’ include each and every member of the species homo sapiens at all stages of life, beginning with the earliest stage of development, created by the process of fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent.
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This just keeps getting better and better all the time. If you're a progressive/liberal/Democrat.

Akin’s Spiritual Mentor: Women Occasionally Invite Rape, Victims Are ‘Hysterical’

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Rep. Todd Akin’s (R-MO) spiritual mentor Reverend D. James Kennedy harbored extreme and sometimes flatly misogynistic views about rape and abortion, according to a ThinkProgress review of Kennedy’s sermons on the topic. The Senate candidate, who set off a massive controversy by claiming this weekend that victims of “legitimate rape” don’t get pregnant, has deep ties to Reverend Kennedy, having cited some of his sermons as key intellectual influences and having been named in Kennedy’s book How Would Jesus Vote? as one of the Reverend’s “favorite statesman.”
Kennedy, who the Anti-Defamation League has termed a “Christian supremacist,” repeatedly railed against legalized abortion, calling it the “American Holocaust” and suggesting that it would lead inevitably to genocide in the United States. But Kennedy’s discussions of rape and abortion in particular betray extraordinarily disturbing views about rape victims:
1. Kennedy believed that rape victims who chose abortion are “hysterical.” In “Abortion: Myths and Realities,” Kennedy labels victims of rape who chose unsafe abortions when safer procedures are illegal “hysterical,” saying “We are told by some of the radical feminists that the women will become hysterical, that they will abort themselves with coat hanger.” Abortion rates are, in fact, higher in nations where the procedure is criminalized, and men describing women whose choices they disapprove of as “hysterical” has a storied sexist history.
2. Kennedy suggests rape victims can be responsible for being raped. In “Life: An Inalienable Right,” Kennedy expresses concern that rape victims who chose to get an abortion are occasionally responsible for their own rape, saying that “Even if they want to say the woman had some part in it—which in most cases they probably don’t—surely the baby did nothing wrong, so the only innocent party is killed and the rapist often goes free.” He doesn’t elaborate on how this might be true, but another Kennedy sermon says “the immodest woman is contributing to the lust of other people” by wearing revealing clothing.
3. Kennedy held that the Bible should set our laws about rape and abortion. Kennedy is very explicit on this point, saying “In the Bible, the child of rape was allowed to live and the rapist was put to death. Today, we find that the penalties against rape have become more and more lenient, whereas the child is now the subject of capital punishment. Justice has been totally destroyed and perverted in that the guilty are practically allowed to go free and the innocent are killed.” This fits with Kennedy’s general view that we should “rebuild America based on the Bible.”
4. Kennedy thought husbands should determine if their wives can have abortions. Though not specifically addressing rape, Kennedy approvingly cited a Roman prohibition on abortion motivated by the husbands should have control over women’s reproductive choice, saying “That newly created life is as much the husband’s as it is the wife’s. Historically, it is interesting to note that when the Roman Empire did away with laws that allowed abortion, it was done not because of the woman or the harm that abortions were doing to women (and indeed they do vastly more harm than most people are aware of), but because the husband was being defrauded of his progeny.” Interestingly, Akin has worried that criminalizing marital rape provides women “a legal weapon to beat up on the husband.”
Given that Akin’s rhetoric and policy views bear clear marks of Kennedy’s influence, it’s perhaps no surprise that Akin co-sponsored (with Paul Ryan) a bill that could, by limiting federal funding of abortion to cases of “forcible rape,” make rape survivors give birth to their rapist’s child.

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And this is even funnier if you're a liberal/progressive/Democrat because the GOP is desperately trying to throw Akins under the political bus he rode in on.


Todd Akin Staying In Missouri Senate Race

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"I'm not a quitter and my belief is we're going to take this thing forward," Akin said.

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Oh fuck this gets more hilarious with every passing hour.

Todd Akin Piers Morgan Interview Fail: Embattled Senate Candidate Bails On CNN Host

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The six-term Missouri GOP congressman, a candidate for U.S. Senate, apparently bailed on a planned interview with CNN's Piers Morgan, leaving the host to berate him as a "gutless little twerp" Monday evening.


Akin's troubles began Sunday when he suggested during a television interview that women who are victims of "legitimate rape" are biologically unlikely to become pregnant -- attributing the dubious science to "doctors." Numerous Republicans have called on the congressman to withdraw from his challenge against Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill.

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Well, Rachel Maddow said the deadline for Akin to remove his name from the ballot is Tuesday, August 21 - TODAY - because it's 11 weeks from election day. He says he's not going to drop out, but if he's going to change his mind tic toc .......
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Just for context, here's the excerpt from the actual interview - this guy lost me long before he got to the "legitimate rape" comment . . . classic

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Well, Rachel Maddow said the deadline for Akin to remove his name from the ballot is Tuesday, August 21 - TODAY - because it's 11 weeks from election day. He says he's not going to drop out, but if he's going to change his mind tic toc .......
Why drop out for telling the truth about the GOP's actual agenda and platform? Because they can handle the truth. That's why.

GOP Approves ‘Most Conservative Platform In Modern History’

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A week from the 2012 Republican National Convention, Republican committee members spent Tuesday articulating and affirming the principles they stand for in a draft of the official party platform. Led by Gov. Bob McDonnell (R-VA) and featuring other Tea Party stars like Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach and Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), the committee approved a draft of the platform McDonnell said “will reflect the heart and soul of the Republican Party” and one committee member called “the most conservative platform in modern history.”

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  • NO ABORTION IN CASES OF RAPE OR INCEST. The proposal for a “human life amendment” passed without a hitch — and without any exceptions for rape or incest. The committee didn’t stop there; they also adopted language that would ban drugs that end pregnancy after conception, which could potentially include Plan B, the “morning after pill.”


  • SALUTE TO MANDATORY ULTRASOUNDS. The GOP officially praises states’ “informed consent” laws that force women to undergo unnecessary procedures, require waiting periods and endure other measures meant to discourage them from getting an abortion. One such law receiving a “salute” was crafted by committee head McDonnell, who passed a notorious mandatory ultrasound requirement after he signed an unsuccessful bill to require an even more invasive transvaginal probe ultrasound during an abortion consultation.


  • NO LEGAL RECOGNITION OF SAME-SEX COUPLES. The committee embraced extreme anti-gay language, even rejecting a proposal to endorse civil unions for gay couples after vehement objections from Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and Romney adviser Jim Bopp, who called it a “counterfeit marriage.” The rejection of civil unions, along with the refusal to include a line affirming the legal equality of same-sex couples prompted the organization GOProud to declare, “Those who have engaged in this public platform fight have provided distraction from important issues and damaged Mitt Romney’s campaign.”


  • REPLICATE ARIZONA-STYLE IMMIGRATION LAWS. Kris Kobach, who wrote the now mostly invalidated immigration laws in Arizona and Alabama, pushed for language calling for a border fence, a national E-Verify system to make it harder for undocumented workers to find employment, the end of in-state tuition for illegal immigrants and an end to sanctuary cities. The committee overwhelmingly approved the proposals, as well as a line chastising the Department of Justice to halt the lawsuits against draconian immigration laws in Arizona, Alabama, South Carolina and Utah: “State efforts to reduce illegal immigration must be encouraged, not attacked.”


  • AUDIT THE FED. The pet project of Sen. Ron Paul (R-TX) to audit the Federal Reserve has now been embraced as an official Republican goal. For the first time, the platform calls for an annual audit of the Federal Reserve.


  • NO WOMEN IN COMBAT. The platform condemns “social experimentation” in the military, which covers everything from the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” to allowing officers to wear their uniforms in gay pride events to letting women serve on the front lines.


  • NO STATEHOOD, MORE GUNS FOR WASHINGTON DC. FRC’s Perkins, who recently blamed President Obama and the Southern Poverty Law Center for the shooting at FRC’s Washington headquarters, requested and received a section specifically urging the DC Council to expand gun rights. The same section also opposes DC statehood, which would allow the District to govern itself and put an end to Congressional attempts to impose abortion bans on DC.


  • NO NEW TAXES, EXCEPT FOR WAR. The platform calls for a Constitutional amendment requiring a super-majority to approve any tax increase, “with exceptions for only war and national emergencies.” It would also deliberately hobble future Congresses through a cap limiting all government spending to historical average percentage of GDP — “so that future Congresses cannot balance the budget by raising taxes.”
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Republicans to declare ‘We Built This!’ in stadium built with government funds

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The Republican National Committee (RNC) announced this week that it would craft its convention theme around President Barack Obama’s “You didn’t build that” remark — which was taken out of context to suggest that business owners “didn’t build” their businesses — and the party will unveil that message in an arena that was mostly built with government funds.



The Daily Dolt noted on Wednesday that part of the GOP message may be undermined by the fact that the Tampa Bay Times Forum arena — where the convention is being held — was financed with $86 million in public money.


During a campaign event in Virginia last month, Obama had pointed out the importance of the government’s role in providing infrastructure and education as a foundation for small business success.


“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” the president explained. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”


In a series of ads and speeches, presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s campaign selectively edited those remarks by removing the reference to “roads and bridges,” making it seem like the president was dismissing the success of small business owners.


“In speeches and videos, the Romney campaign has repeatedly distorted Obama’s words,” PolitiFact wrote. “By plucking two sentences out of context, Romney twists the president’s remarks and ignores their real meaning. … Romney and his supporters have misled viewers and given a false impression. For that, we rate the claim False.”


The RNC is now taking those attacks to the next level by making “We Built This!” the central theme of their convention at the Tampa Bay Times Forum arena, according to Fox News.



Originally called The Ice Palace, the arena was built in 1996 at a cost of $139 million, 62 percent of which was publicly financed.


“Kind of kills that idea that it doesn’t take a village, right?” The Atlantic‘s Alexander Abad-Santos observed.

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Oh fuck this gets more hilarious with every passing hour.

Todd Akin Piers Morgan Interview Fail: Embattled Senate Candidate Bails On CNN Host




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1814683.html
I usually don't agree with Kathleen Parker, but in this case, she got it right. These guys desperately need a seminar on female biology.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...e9c_story.html

But more than that, they need to quit trying to make up their own science to replace real science. Here again, they've conjured up some mythology and have been repeating it to each other for decades: the myth that a woman who is "forcibly" raped cannot become pregnant. It's traceable, apparently, to a single M.D., who should have his license to practice revoked as soon as possible. There's no actual science behind this absurd contention whatsoever...but then, there's no actual science behind creationism and global warming denial either, and that didn't deter anyone in the right wing.
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I usually don't agree with Kathleen Parker, but in this case, she got it right. These guys desperately need a seminar on female biology.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...e9c_story.html

But more than that, they need to quit trying to make up their own science to replace real science. Here again, they've conjured up some mythology and have been repeating it to each other for decades: the myth that a woman who is "forcibly" raped cannot become pregnant. It's traceable, apparently, to a single M.D., who should have his license to practice revoked as soon as possible. There's no actual science behind this absurd contention whatsoever...but then, there's no actual science behind creationism and global warming denial either, and that didn't deter anyone in the right wing.

Hi, Kimiko! Haven't read a post or written to you in ages! Enjoying your summer, I trust?

Akin's a moron. He's only hanging on because the D. incumbent in the seat is vulnerable. But she'll wipe the floor with him if he stays in, and he could lose the Senate majority. Well, at least the RNC has shut off his money, his call center, and all of his access to volunteers. The Republicans might be hilarious, but they do hold themselves to a higher standard, and self-police, and fix their messes. The RNC doesn't wait for a felony conviction to shut down the morons.
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More and more corruption from the Obama administration.

Big surprise huh?


Watchdog who exonerated Obama on energy loans now an Obama donor

Published August 23, 2012
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  • FILE: Herb Allison testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP)
WASHINGTON – A veteran Wall Street executive who performed an independent review that exonerated the Obama administration's program of loans to energy companies contributed $52,500 to re-elect President Barack Obama in the months since completing his work, according to an Associated Press review of campaign records. The executive defended the integrity of his conclusions and said he decided to donate to Obama after his work was finished.
The campaign contributions to Obama started just weeks after Herbert M. Allison Jr., in congressional testimony in March, minimized concerns that the Energy Department was at high risk in more than $23 billion in federal loans awarded to green energy firms. Two weeks later, Allison began giving to the Obama campaign. His contributions to Obama and the Democratic National Committee totaled $52,500 by last month. Allison previously was the former head of the government's mass purchase of toxic Wall Street assets.
Allison did not make any Obama donations during his four-month review of Energy Department loans, and he has a long history of working with and giving money to both political parties. However, Republican Party officials and congressional critics of the energy loans said Allison's donations to Obama raise doubts about his objectivity and highlight his decision not to assess multimillion-dollar loans to two companies that later went into bankruptcy - the troubled Solyndra solar panel company and Beacon Power, an energy storage firm.
Allison's report, completed in February and touted by the White House, acknowledged that the Energy Department could lose as much as $3 billion in loans, but it concluded that was far less than the $10 billion set aside by Congress for high-risk companies. The review did not assess the two bankrupt firms because those loans were no longer current. Allison told Congress that "DOE has negotiated protections in the loan agreements that enable it to cut off further funding and to demand more credit protection if projects do not meet targets." He also urged the Energy Department to toughen its oversight.
Allison defended the integrity of his review in an interview with The Associated Press. He said that he did not make the decision to back a presidential candidate until after he had finished his work and that his selection was approved by Energy Department lawyers before he began his review last October to "ensure there was no hint of bias or conflict of interest."
"I was on the record with the White House that this had to be completely independent review and they agreed," he said Wednesday in a telephone interview from his home in Westport, Conn. "It didn't hew to anybody's political suasion, I think, and it had to be fully factual or it wouldn't be credible."
Allison said he made his decision to support Obama after he saw "his administration in action and decided that I believe broadly in the things he's trying to accomplish."
Allison gave $2,500 to the Obama campaign on March 29, two weeks after he testified to the Senate Energy and Commerce Committee about his review. In May, he gave $15,000 to the Obama Victory Fund, a joint fundraising committee that supports both the president's re-election campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Allison gave the same amount to the fund again in June and then $20,000 more in July.
Allison has donated money to both parties, but his gifts in the past have tended to be much smaller than his current contributions, typically no more than $1,000 or $2,000, according to Federal Election Commission records. Allison explained his larger donations to the Obama campaign by saying "there's a hell of a lot more money in politics today than in years past and I decided I could go this route."
Allison has given to GOP figures such as Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, and to Democrats such as Rep. Carolyn Maloney of New York and former Nebraska Sen. Bob Kerrey. Allison's presidential preferences have been mostly Republicans - Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas. He also gave $2,300 to Obama in 2008, a year before Obama appointed Allison as an assistant treasury secretary.
The White House and the Obama campaign defended Allison, saying his donations did not taint his work as independent reviewer of the loans program. They pointed to his repeated hiring over the past two decades by Republican presidential administrations and GOP campaigns as justification that Allison had the independence to oversee troubled government programs.
"Mr. Allison was selected to do this study because of his relevant expertise and he is a public servant widely respected by Democrats and Republicans alike," said Eric Schultz, a White House spokesman.
Schultz added that Allison's "analysis of the DOE loan portfolio was thorough and reliable as evident by additional independent reports affirming his findings." The Obama campaign said, "Having completed an independent assignment does not cost him his right to continue participating in the political progress on behalf of many candidates, as he has in the past."
A former Merrill Lynch executive, Allison worked for several Republican administrations and earned a reputation for tackling troubled federal programs. During McCain's failed 2000 presidential run, he served as national finance chairman and was rumored to be McCain's choice to become treasury secretary if he had won.
Allison was named by President George W. Bush to head Fannie Mae after the quasi-government home lending agency was placed in conservatorship in 2008 following the Wall Street collapse. A year later, Obama named Allison as an assistant treasury secretary to oversee the Troubled Asset Relief Program that Bush had created to stabilize Wall Street banks and investment houses reeling with toxic debt.
During his work at the Treasury Department, Allison was among top officials who crossed swords with TARP Inspector General Neil Barofsky, who accused the department of failing to properly track government bailout money given to banks and investment houses. Barofsky declined to comment about his dealings with Allison.
Allison left the Treasury Department in 2010 but returned last year to head up the review of energy loans. The White House agreed to the review in the wake of mounting Republican criticism after Solyndra, a California firm, went belly up. The bankruptcy cost U.S. taxpayers $528 million in lost loans.
Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., who chairs the House Energy Committee's oversight subcommittee, said Allison's donations to the Obama campaign back up GOP warnings this year that the White House review was suspect. Stearns said Allison's "financial support for the Obama campaign undermines (his) credibility and shows once again that the president did not want a careful, independent review of his risky green jobs scheme."
Allison's role as a large Obama donor "raises serious questions about an administration that puts campaign cash before taxpayer money," said Joe Pounder, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee.
Allison declined to say whether he will keep donating to Obama. "Next time around," he said, "I might support a Republican."





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No posts of this Texas judge yet? What's the matter with you folks out to skewer your ideological enemies - get on the ball!

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Akin's a moron. He's only hanging on because the D. incumbent in the seat is vulnerable. But she'll wipe the floor with him if he stays in, and he could lose the Senate majority. Well, at least the RNC has shut off his money, his call center, and all of his access to volunteers. The Republicans might be hilarious, but they do hold themselves to a higher standard, and self-police, and fix their messes. The RNC doesn't wait for a felony conviction to shut down the morons.
Well, yes, when their own political self-interest is at stake, they're quick to cut these guys loose, even when they secretly agree with everything he says. It is, after all, reflected in the party platform they're getting ready to adopt.

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Umm the thread says hilarity right?
http://m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/...tml#entry-more
Can i laugh at this?
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Yes you can laugh at that or at least I sure did.
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Now this is how you know when Romney and the GOP are running scared.

Second Local Station Says Romney Camp Asked For No Akin Questions

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Before Mitt Romney appeared via satellite on an Ohio TV station WHIO Thursday, his campaign told a reporter it would prefer Romney did not get questions about Todd Akin. Fortunately for the Romney campaign, Akin wasn’t on the WHIO agenda.


“They were chatting and it came up and I believe [a Romney staffer’s] wording was that they prefer not to talk about it,” assistant news director Tim Wolff told TPM. “But we didn’t care because we were going to talk about Ohio stuff.”


The WHIO interview was one of four satellite appearances Romney made on local TV stations Thursday. Per common practice, campaign officials fished around for topics and questions that might come up prior to the taping. In at least two of those interviews, the Romney campaign tried to shut down questions about Akin, whose continuing Senate campaign in Missouri is ensuring that abortion stays at the center of the presidential campaign narrative.



In Colorado, a Romney spokesperson set a no-Akin-questions policy as a precondition for getting access to the candidate.

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