assange extradition

[Tightcuntlover]

Originally Posted by VioletAshes

Yes, I am stupid enough to know what happened to Bradly Manning.

Yep.....What is it?

817 days in captivity....without charge....and he's fucking American!

[BigTrobbing]

Originally Posted by Tightcuntlover

There are no actual charges against him in Sweden....he's basically just wanted there for questioning. Sweden is keeping very quiet about why they won't interview him either in the Ecuador embassy in London...or by videolink.

That's a bit fishy in the first place.

The bottom line is...America wants him on their soil.

And I am sure we will get him soon enough, he cannot stay in that building for too long as he will go stir crazy and have to get out for a bit.That is when we will have him shipped to us. Then down the rabbit hole he goes.

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by Tightcuntlover

Yep.....What is it?

817 days in captivity....without charge....and he's fucking American!

American troops knowingly give up certain rights when they sign on with the military. It sucks but he did break the UCMJ something he damn well knew.

[Tightcuntlover]

Originally Posted by shyguyy2

American troops knowingly give up certain rights when they sign on with the military. It sucks but he did break the UCMJ something he damn well knew.

Yes....but maybe he did so in order to save a great number of civilian lives.....not to mention any number of his military colleagues also.

Is that not worth thinking about?

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by Tightcuntlover

Yes....but maybe he did so in order to save a great number of civilian lives.....not to mention any number of his military colleagues also.

Is that not worth thinking about?

This is gonna sound cold but I don't give a shit about the civilians there most of us don't they aid the insurgents. Now he didn't save any American lives we don't condone people like him. If he is willing to back stab his own country he is willing to back stab his own men. There is a chain of command for unlawful orders and he didn't follow it. Had he gone about it another way insted of wikileaks we might be thinking differently of him.

[Tightcuntlover]

Originally Posted by shyguyy2

This is gonna sound cold but I don't give a shit about the civilians there most of us don't they aid the insurgents. Now he didn't save any American lives we don't condone people like him. If he is willing to back stab his own country he is willing to back stab his own men. There is a chain of command for unlawful orders and he didn't follow it. Had he gone about it another way insted of wikileaks we might be thinking differently of him.

You're forgetting the bigger picture.

If wikileaks brings about a whole new perception that somehow prevents everything all kicking off again big time...you know world war stuff...nukes etc etc...then a great number of those civilian lives saved could well be American....you know...like members of your own family even.

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by Tightcuntlover

You're forgetting the bigger picture.

If wikileaks brings about a whole new perception that somehow prevents everything all kicking off again big time...you know world war stuff...nukes etc etc...then a great number of those civilian lives saved could well be American....you know...like members of your own family even.

Point Taken, I didn't think of it that way.

[shyguyy2]

I occasionaly watch Adam Kokesh so here is some prospect from him on the matter.
http://youtu.be/GSHq7O8WCM8

[WhosEggRover]

This case has a stink of the highest order. Julian Assange , an Australian is wanted for questioning over crimes in Sweden which are not even crimes here , even after the so called crimes were originally thrown out by a Swedish judge. Amazingly the British govt. threatens to overturn international law to extradite him and are spending millions on policing this case while known terrorists walk freely in our country.+++++ WHAT HAPPENED TO GOVERNMENT MORALITY WHEN SAUDI DIPLOMATS WERE ACCUSED OF SERIOUS CRIMES INCLUDING ASSAULT OF AN 11 yr OLD GIRL. - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-crimes.html +++++++++++ British government hypocricy and submission to the USA at it's most stinking obvious.

[WhosEggRover]

This case has a stink of the highest order. Julian Assange , an Australian is wanted for questioning over crimes in Sweden which are not even crimes in Britain , even after the so called crimes were originally thrown out by a Swedish judge. Amazingly the British govt. threatens to overturn international law to extradite him and are spending millions on policing this case while known terrorists walk freely in our country.+++++ WHAT HAPPENED TO GOVERNMENT MORALITY WHEN SAUDI DIPLOMATS WERE ACCUSED OF SERIOUS CRIMES INCLUDING ASSAULT OF AN 11 yr OLD GIRL. - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-crimes.html +++++++++++ British government hypocricy and submission to the USA at it's most stinking obvious.

[WhosEggRover]

This case has a stink of the highest order. Julian Assange , an Australian is wanted for questioning over crimes in Sweden which are not even crimes in Britain , even after the so called crimes were originally thrown out by a Swedish judge. Amazingly the British govt. threatens to overturn international law to extradite him and are spending millions on policing this case while known terrorists walk freely in the UK. +++++ WHAT HAPPENED TO GOVERNMENT MORALITY WHEN SAUDI DIPLOMATS WERE ACCUSED OF SERIOUS CRIMES INCLUDING ASSAULT OF AN 11 yr OLD GIRL. - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-crimes.html +++++++++++ British government hypocricy and submission to the USA at it's most stinking obvious.

[Jolly_Roger]

I think you've made your point whoseggrover lol. Must admit the British govt. do seem a little too eager to extradite him when compared to the links you added.

[ssal]

Originally Posted by VioletAshes

The west has so much sympathy for an activist in China for telling the truth, but now shows it's try colors... "Human rights" my ass. This isn't politics it is pure evil, it isn't some politicians out to steal some money or resources, this is plain kidnapping and murder by the US and its allies.

No, Assange does not deserve to be exiled to Ecuador...He deserves to be free to continue telling the world about the true face of the west. He deserves life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. He deserves the Nobel Peace Prize and much much more.

When they finally kill this man, he will be a martyr. And he will not be the last.

Hey Moron, are you aware of the number of people his reatrded actions have put in danger? how many operators in the field (which have nothing to do with politics) American or otherwise, his idiocy has now forced either out of work or into hiding?

1. If U.S wanted this man, UK would have him extradited to US, what are these bullshit ideas that he is going via Sweeden. he has broken sufficient US laws for him to be extradited here. Why go through this trouble of Sweeden?

2. What about the rights of the women he has allegedly assaulted? Don't they have the rights to a fair hearing?Or fuck them because you believe they are bogus? because you are not biased or anything and Sweeden has not proven to be a civilized society.

3. This idiot was fully aware of the consequences of his actions. He made the decissions knowingly of the results, and now is cowardly refusing to face them. I know where the rich stock their money (in a bank), I also know how to take it and distribute it amongst the poor (rob a bank). But you do not see me robbing bank for the greater good, do you? No, because it is fucking illegal. if the coward in question wanted to do something illegal then he should face justice.

4. Don't the people he has harmed and endangered through carelessly publicizing their names have the right to see him in court. I know that if my life was in danger because someone chose to put my name up in interent for all to see, after all I was doing was my job, i would want to see that fucker in court.

5. I do not know if US wants him (because if they did, they would just ask for him to be extradited from UK, none of this bullshit), but if they do he is as good as dead. There is no way he can leave that embassy and even if he was, it would be just a matter of time.

6. This guy is a hypocrite, talking about Free speech. Where does he hide? In Equador, not really the most democratic and supporter of free speech. But as he has continuousely shown, he is above all else a selfish prick.

[ladygodiva123]

Why was he not extradited directly to the US?

As for the charges in Sweden, it sounds like one woman let him continue to stay in her apartment for a few days after the alleged "rape". That sounds a bit odd. From the description he sounds like more of a cad than a rapist, but I wasn't there.

[baller16]

Originally Posted by smcaaphd

Crikey Suze that has to be theee longest post I've ever seen you make



The UK government will do whatever the US government want us to do, you know that!! I can see the Skype convo between Osama...Obama -I'm a dick sometimes- and Cameron now.

*blows whistle*

That was borderline racist. Obama's a strong black man who would never lower himself to using ghettospeak. What is this, Mammy?

And speaking English because it was both forced on your country and brought over by English people is not the same as copying the language of the people who were oppressed by people like the English.

As for Bradley Manning and Assange. If you're going to try to be a hero then you accept the consequences of what you did. Nobody should go easy on either of them just because certain people might think they did the right thing. True heroes risk everything for what is right, as Manning clearly felt he was doing.

[smcaaphd]

Originally Posted by baller16

That was borderline racist. Obama's a strong black man who would never lower himself to using ghettospeak. What is this, Mammy?

And speaking English because it was both forced on your country and brought over by English people is not the same as copying the language of the people who were oppressed by people like the English.

As for Bradley Manning and Assange. If you're going to try to be a hero then you accept the consequences of what you did. Nobody should go easy on either of them just because certain people might think they did the right thing. True heroes risk everything for what is right, as Manning clearly felt he was doing.

It's not borderline racist...it's teen-speak!! Unfortunately it seems that generations from now, that's how people will be conversing

I'm really not going to get into this whole 'English oppression' thing with you, though, no matter how much you bait me (although it should be pointed out that what I wrote was a skit - heck, I don't even know if Obama and Cameron even use Skype

[McDick]

Assange is not a whistleblower. A whistleblower is someone who exposes some kind of wrong doing by a government, or company or some other organization. That isn't what Assange did. Assange engaged in espionage. His work didn't reveal some wrong doing by someone. What he did was to reveal people who were working against corrupt dictatorships. His actions helped out some of the worst tyrants in the world by exposing the people who were working against them.

Because this happened in the world of espionage and spies, we'll never know how many operatives had to be withdrawn or were captured. But for what it's worth, according to anonymous sources in the intelligence community, the consequences of this were not good.

Assange may fancy himself to be some sort of heroic figure, but I think what he did was despicable. I hope he is relentllessly pursued until captured. At least Bradly Manning will never see freedom again.

Of all the revelations which were made by Assange, as far as I can see, none of them had any positive effect or revealed something about what was going on in the world which needed to be "exposed" to the people of the world.

As I recall, the most "shocking" thing that was revealed was something about how some U.S. diplomats believed that some people in the Pakistan government weren't always being entirely truthful....gosh...I'm shocked...what an amazing piece of detective work...who would have ever known.

The things revealed by Assange were of no importance to anyone other than tyrants who were able to figure out who some of the people working against them were.

[foreverhorny18]

Originally Posted by ridgerunner

if assange was actualy innocent for what reason does he have to request assylum from a non-extrdition nation?
i would think he would want to porve his innocence instead of runing away

As soon as he goes to Sweden to face these imaginary rape charges he will be extradited to the US where he will face the death penalty and most likely be executed for his involvement with wikileaks. If this was going on in China then the West would be crying about human rights but the US knows it can do as they please.

As far as I'm aware the reason he has to go to Sweden first is because the US has an agreement with the Swedish government that they can extradite people from there without the usual lengthy court processes.

[richief]

Why all the moaning and handwringing. Assange broke the laws of the US and should be tried there, it appears he also needs to face rape charges in Sweden so he needs to appear before judges to prove or dismiss the case.

All the rest is political bollocks, whether he has saved lives or not is not the issue the fact that he committed acts of espionage against the US is the reason for any upcoming trial.

If they let him walk over dropping state secrets into the web, then any disgruntled worker in the Whitehouse or Capitol can do the same.

[ridgerunner]

and as i have stated emphticaly
if he has done nothing wrong why does he hide from simple accusation?
why request poltical assylum in equador>
its a stall tactic and no less
if he was innocent he would grow a pair and face up to it

[foreverhorny18]

Originally Posted by ridgerunner

and as i have stated emphticaly
if he has done nothing wrong why does he hide from simple accusation?
why request poltical assylum in equador>
its a stall tactic and no less
if he was innocent he would grow a pair and face up to it

He is innocent of the sex charges, they are just an excuse made up by the Swedish government so he can be extradited first to Sweden and then to America, No-one is disputing his guilt when it comes to wikileaks, but what the Swedes are doing is fabricating accusations out of thin air (which will tarnish his reputation for ever) in order to send him to America, and obviously he can't go to Sweden to defend himself because they will extradite him to the US.

[69magpie]

What's actually happened in Sweden is that he was questioned over the rape and sexual molestation and both the police and prosecuter said he nothing to answer for.

Assange was then released and allowed to leave the country. Then a week or so later another prosecuter got hold of it and opened it up again, that in itself is very suspect as the accusations hadn't changed and no new information was revealed...and in fact the women never claimed they were raped, it was reported that they went to the police station and asked what the law was, it was the police themselves that arrested Assange, questioned him then later released him without charging him
.
So why the international arrest warrant, and why couldn't the Swedish prosecutor have travelled to London and questioned Assange while he was being held by the Brits.

I put a hypothetical up about those dubious charges......You've had a hot night of consensual sex then both fallen asleep, you (the male) wakes up with a boner and proceeds to try for a bit of morning fun while your lover is still asleep....the question is, is that rape?....If so then I'm guessing that most of the blokes here should be charged with rape.

[richief]

Hypothetically your are, for want of a better word, fucked, no consent = rape. Such is the way the law works, but if you woke and found her sucking your cock would you shout rape or just enjoy it?

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by richief

Hypothetically your are, for want of a better word, fucked, no consent = rape. Such is the way the law works, but if you woke and found her sucking your cock would you shout rape or just enjoy it?

Enjoy it of course, just like my ex in Sweden enjoyed it on a few occasions when I woke her like that.......and here's me planning on visiting Sweden next year, should I be worried that I could be done for rape.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by richief

If they let him walk over dropping state secrets into the web, then any disgruntled worker in the Whitehouse or Capitol can do the same.

I doubt Assange is the first to drop the US in it, and he certainly wont be the last.

He also dropped British state secrets, so why didn't they arrest him for that while they had him.......and not only the British, he's done the aussies as well and considering he's one of us we should get first dibs at him......why should the US get first crack.

[baller16]

Originally Posted by smcaaphd

It's not borderline racist...it's teen-speak!! Unfortunately it seems that generations from now, that's how people will be conversing

I'm really not going to get into this whole 'English oppression' thing with you, though, no matter how much you bait me (although it should be pointed out that what I wrote was a skit - heck, I don't even know if Obama and Cameron even use Skype

That "teen speak" is taken from the ghetto. Therefore, a strong black man who defies those stereotypes being made to speak that way is in fact racist. People have been conversing that way (well not that way, the non-British slang way) for decades. It's nothing new, just more widespread now.

There's nothing to get into. It happened, whether anybody wants to pretend otherwise or not. The point is that it is downright offensive to compare English (which isn't your language by the way, as it was derived from many other languages) being exported and forced on America to people then stealing the culture of those they oppressed.

[Suze3221]

Baller - fuck off, you tedious cunt of a boy.

[baller16]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

Baller - fuck off, you tedious cunt of a boy.

You really think I give a fuck what somebody low enough to mock the special needs or those with Tourettes thinks of me?

You wouldn't know what a man was if he came up behind you and fucked you in the ass.

[richief]

Originally Posted by baller16

That "teen speak" is taken from the ghetto. Therefore, a strong black man who defies those stereotypes being made to speak that way is in fact racist. People have been conversing that way (well not that way, the non-British slang way) for decades. It's nothing new, just more widespread now.

There's nothing to get into. It happened, whether anybody wants to pretend otherwise or not. The point is that it is downright offensive to compare English (which isn't your language by the way, as it was derived from many other languages) being exported and forced on America to people then stealing the culture of those they oppressed.

Our language wasn't forced on you, you decided to use it instead of one of the many other migrant tongues. We derived our language from Germanic Europe, added a little French and Latin and got on with life, we had Saxon before the Normans came and forced French upon us the same way the Romans pushed Latin into the country, but then you never understand that because it goes against your bigoted views of anyone from Europe and England in particular.

[baller16]

Originally Posted by richief

Our language wasn't forced on you, you decided to use it instead of one of the many other migrant tongues. We derived our language from Germanic Europe, added a little French and Latin and got on with life, we had Saxon before the Normans came and forced French upon us the same way the Romans pushed Latin into the country, but then you never understand that because it goes against your bigoted views of anyone from Europe and England in particular.

You clearly don't know much about the history of either the US or Ireland for that matter. Yes, it was forced on us to speak English. Anybody who didn't speak English was discriminated against.

You didn't add anything. Your language was derived from other ones, the same way ours is. We may speak and spell slightly like you but there are a ton of words in our language that don't come from English words.

Not really. You just want to be delusional about the actual history of the world. The Romans didn't need guns. Also, if you had French and Latin forced on you then you would be descended from the original peoples of Britain, which I would bet money you aren't.

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by ladygodiva123

Why was he not extradited directly to the US?

The USA has threatened him with the death penalty; we never extradite anyone to anywhere that is barbaric enough to issue that threat.

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by foreverhorny18

No-one is disputing his guilt when it comes to wikileaks

I am. What are the US government trying to charge him with?

[ssal]

Originally Posted by Heyesey

I am. What are the US government trying to charge him with?

spying... that is still illegal.

[ssal]

Originally Posted by baller16

You clearly don't know much about the history of either the US or Ireland for that matter. Yes, it was forced on us to speak English. Anybody who didn't speak English was discriminated against.

You didn't add anything. Your language was derived from other ones, the same way ours is. We may speak and spell slightly like you but there are a ton of words in our language that don't come from English words.

Not really. You just want to be delusional about the actual history of the world. The Romans didn't need guns. Also, if you had French and Latin forced on you then you would be descended from the original peoples of Britain, which I would bet money you aren't.

No one is forcing you to speak english now, or to live in US. You can fuck off anywhere you want. However I highly doubt your ability to learn any other languages, so shut the fuck up and be greatful. You have the choice at any time and the luxury (like few people in the world) to move to a place where you can chose the langauge you want to speak. if you are not prepared to move spare me this shit of being forced to learn English.

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by ssal

spying... that is still illegal.

When was he in the USA to have committed this act?

[AZRIEL]

Originally Posted by baller16

Yes, it was forced on us to speak English.

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[baller16]

Originally Posted by ssal

No one is forcing you to speak english now, or to live in US. You can fuck off anywhere you want. However I highly doubt your ability to learn any other languages, so shut the fuck up and be greatful. You have the choice at any time and the luxury (like few people in the world) to move to a place where you can chose the langauge you want to speak. if you are not prepared to move spare me this shit of being forced to learn English.

You are so right

[richief]

Originally Posted by baller16

You clearly don't know much about the history of either the US or Ireland for that matter. Yes, it was forced on us to speak English. Anybody who didn't speak English was discriminated against.

You didn't add anything. Your language was derived from other ones, the same way ours is. We may speak and spell slightly like you but there are a ton of words in our language that don't come from English words.

Not really. You just want to be delusional about the actual history of the world. The Romans didn't need guns. Also, if you had French and Latin forced on you then you would be descended from the original peoples of Britain, which I would bet money you aren't.

I have no idea how far back my heritage goes, I do not care, I guess I am of Saxon or Norman stock, but if I was from earlier I guess my tribe would have either died out fighting the Romans, got assimilated into the Roman way or fled west into Wales and Ireland or maybe north to join the Picts, either way does not bother me but apart from the last option I would have had foreign languages and culture forced onto my tribe, and it would have happened centuries before the Americas were invented, odd that isn't it, everything you claim happening to your ancestors happened here years before they were even thought of.

[baller16]

Exactly. You don't care, because you don't need to. You aren't disadvantaged because of it.. quite the opposite in fact. It's quite clear you're a typical English "Irishmen" who benefited from what your ancestors did to mine.

Therefore, you are not the person to go talking about who should care about what when you don't even know whether or not you're Anglo-Saxon yet you want to talk like it was your people who had things forced on them.

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by baller16

You really think I give a fuck what somebody low enough to mock the special needs or those with Tourettes thinks of me?

You wouldn't know what a man was if he came up behind you and fucked you in the ass.

Obviously you do give a fuck or you wouldn't have replied, you spotty, skinny pup!

Another result!

[baller16]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

Obviously you do give a fuck or you wouldn't have replied, you spotty, skinny pup!

Another result!

It's the internet. I type when I want to. You're not a manipulator.

So no, I don't give a fuck, and I haven't been skinny for 3 years now.

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by baller16

It's the internet. I type when I want to. You're not a manipulator.

So no, I don't give a fuck, and I haven't been skinny for 3 years now.

So you're a fat cunt now?

[baller16]

Yeah, sure. I'm a fat cunt.

[ssal]

Originally Posted by Heyesey

When was he in the USA to have committed this act?

I am no law professor, but I am pretty confident that the law does not require you to be in US to be charged with spying, or at a minimum assisting someone to spy.

Plus I am sure there are quite a few other laws regarding endangering lives of US citizens.

You can look all that up if you are truly interested.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by ssal

I am no law professor, but I am pretty confident that the law does not require you to be in US to be charged with spying, or at a minimum assisting someone to spy.

Plus I am sure there are quite a few other laws regarding endangering lives of US citizens.

You can look all that up if you are truly interested.

Get in line...the aussie's get him first, he is an australian after all.

[sidmaxx]

Originally Posted by richief

Hypothetically your are, for want of a better word, fucked, no consent = rape. Such is the way the law works, but if you woke and found her sucking your cock would you shout rape or just enjoy it?

Except it wasn't without consent. He didn't forcibly rape or molest either of the women.

They both consented to having sex every time, just that on one occasion with one of them he didn't use a condom even though they had no problem with that.

Sex without a condom is considered as 'rape' for some strange reason in Sweden.

If that was the law in all countries I guess every single one of us would be up on 'rape' charges.

[richief]

Originally Posted by baller16

Exactly. You don't care, because you don't need to. You aren't disadvantaged because of it.. quite the opposite in fact. It's quite clear you're a typical English "Irishmen" who benefited from what your ancestors did to mine.

Therefore, you are not the person to go talking about who should care about what when you don't even know whether or not you're Anglo-Saxon yet you want to talk like it was your people who had things forced on them.

Dear me, do you want me to take a DNA test and then a genetic search, sorry son I am not doing that as it costs money and I am happy with my ignorance of whether I am more Irish than you, just remember the Vikings had fun in Ireland a long time before the rest of Europe so if you search deep enough your genes will come from North Europe, whereas mine probably come from northern Germany/Denmark area or possibly from Normandy.

I also appear at first glance not to have any benefits from being Saxon or Norman, I was not burn with the proverbial silver spoon, I went to a state run modern comprehensive school, prior to that it was a state infant and junior school, after that I started working for a living. How about you, let me see a Catholic private school then a state HS, then community college, now uni, when do you exactly plan to start work to pay back what you have taken, and anything to do with fries or burgers is not work, why don't you do has you have bragged and go get that high paying job, or is that still a dream, baller the cub reporter, hunting for his first scoop, more like the intern working for free and handing out coffee and passing on the post.

Get a life, get a job, get a washing machine and a 60 inch plasma, but please get the fuck out of here.

[Tightcuntlover]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/op...eech.html?_r=2


WikiLeaks and Free Speech
By MICHAEL MOORE and OLIVER STONE
Published: August 20, 2012


WE have spent our careers as filmmakers making the case that the news media in the United States often fail to inform Americans about the uglier actions of our own government. We therefore have been deeply grateful for the accomplishments of WikiLeaks, and applaud Ecuador’s decision to grant diplomatic asylum to its founder, Julian Assange, who is now living in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London.
Ecuador has acted in accordance with important principles of international human rights. Indeed, nothing could demonstrate the appropriateness of Ecuador’s action more than the British government’s threat to violate a sacrosanct principle of diplomatic relations and invade the embassy to arrest Mr. Assange.

Since WikiLeaks’ founding, it has revealed the “Collateral Murder” footage that shows the seemingly indiscriminate killing of Baghdad civilians by a United States Apache attack helicopter; further fine-grained detail about the true face of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars; United States collusion with Yemen’s dictatorship to conceal our responsibility for bombing strikes there; the Obama administration’s pressure on other nations not to prosecute Bush-era officials for torture; and much more.

Predictably, the response from those who would prefer that Americans remain in the dark has been ferocious. Top elected leaders from both parties have called Mr. Assange a “high-tech terrorist.” And Senator Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat who leads the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, has demanded that he be prosecuted under the Espionage Act. Most Americans, Britons and Swedes are unaware that Sweden has not formally charged Mr. Assange with any crime. Rather, it has issued a warrant for his arrest to question him about allegations of sexual assault in 2010.

All such allegations must be thoroughly investigated before Mr. Assange moves to a country that might put him beyond the reach of the Swedish justice system. But it is the British and Swedish governments that stand in the way of an investigation, not Mr. Assange.

Swedish authorities have traveled to other countries to conduct interrogations when needed, and the WikiLeaks founder has made clear his willingness to be questioned in London. Moreover, the Ecuadorean government made a direct offer to Sweden to allow Mr. Assange to be interviewed within Ecuador’s embassy. In both instances, Sweden refused.

Mr. Assange has also committed to traveling to Sweden immediately if the Swedish government pledges that it will not extradite him to the United States. Swedish officials have shown no interest in exploring this proposal, and Foreign Minister Carl Bildt recently told a legal adviser to Mr. Assange and WikiLeaks unequivocally that Sweden would not make such a pledge. The British government would also have the right under the relevant treaty to prevent Mr. Assange’s extradition to the United States from Sweden, and has also refused to pledge that it would use this power. Ecuador’s attempts to facilitate that arrangement with both governments were rejected.

Taken together, the British and Swedish governments’ actions suggest to us that their real agenda is to get Mr. Assange to Sweden. Because of treaty and other considerations, he probably could be more easily extradited from there to the United States to face charges. Mr. Assange has every reason to fear such an outcome.The Justice Department recently confirmed that it was continuing to investigate WikiLeaks, and just-disclosed Australian government documents from this past February state that “the U.S. investigation into possible criminal conduct by Mr. Assange has been ongoing for more than a year.” WikiLeaks itself has published e-mails from Stratfor, a private intelligence corporation, which state that a grand jury has already returned a sealed indictment of Mr. Assange. And history indicates Sweden would buckle to any pressure from the United States to hand over Mr. Assange. In 2001 the Swedish government delivered two Egyptians seeking asylum to the C.I.A., which rendered them to the Mubarak regime, which tortured them.

If Mr. Assange is extradited to the United States, the consequences will reverberate for years around the world. Mr. Assange is not an American citizen, and none of his actions have taken place on American soil. If the United States can prosecute a journalist in these circumstances, the governments of Russia or China could, by the same logic, demand that foreign reporters anywhere on earth be extradited for violating their laws. The setting of such a precedent should deeply concern everyone, admirers of WikiLeaks or not.

We urge the people of Britain and Sweden to demand that their governments answer some basic questions: Why do the Swedish authorities refuse to question Mr. Assange in London? And why can neither government promise that Mr. Assange will not be extradited to the United States? The citizens of Britain and Sweden have a rare opportunity to make a stand for free speech on behalf of the entire globe.

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Originally Posted by richief

Dear me, do you want me to take a DNA test and then a genetic search, sorry son I am not doing that as it costs money and I am happy with my ignorance of whether I am more Irish than you, just remember the Vikings had fun in Ireland a long time before the rest of Europe so if you search deep enough your genes will come from North Europe, whereas mine probably come from northern Germany/Denmark area or possibly from Normandy.

I also appear at first glance not to have any benefits from being Saxon or Norman, I was not burn with the proverbial silver spoon, I went to a state run modern comprehensive school, prior to that it was a state infant and junior school, after that I started working for a living. How about you, let me see a Catholic private school then a state HS, then community college, now uni, when do you exactly plan to start work to pay back what you have taken, and anything to do with fries or burgers is not work, why don't you do has you have bragged and go get that high paying job, or is that still a dream, baller the cub reporter, hunting for his first scoop, more like the intern working for free and handing out coffee and passing on the post.

Get a life, get a job, get a washing machine and a 60 inch plasma, but please get the fuck out of here.

More bullshit from a typical bullshit artist who doesn't want the truth to come out.

Sorry but I know my ancestry and I know that people like your ancestors stole the land of people like my ancestors and oppressed them. Unlike you, I'm not ignorant because my ancestors lived in tenements because of what yours did.

I don't believe a word of your little story no matter how many times you say it. Fucking all talk internet fraud.

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I did not have time to read previous posts but feel strongly on this issue!
Assange is a criminal who should be extradited to Sweden to face sex charges. If the USA can work a deal to drag his ass here, better still. Scumbag!
And he's letting that kid take all the heat for him. He is equally to blame, at least.
Or let him live out his life in the expansive confines of the Ecuadorian Embassy in Britain!!!!!