This is a PORN site - so why do we judge?

[sullygom]

FFS Suze, stop arsing about...fuckin' insult someone for fucking overweight blind dogs !!!

Happy New Wotsits by the way lass!

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by thinskin

Merry Christmas everybody!!

As I read through this excellent thread nobody seems to be prepared to answer the question posed by the OP.

Why do we judge on a porn site?

The question is a stupid one, for the plain and simple reason that people judge one another. Point.

The place they do it doesn't matter, since it seems to be in our genes to judge, so why wouldn't people be judging on a porn site?

Everywhere where people interact with each other, their actions or sayings will be judged, either in silence, or 'aloud'.

[thinskin]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

The question is a stupid one, for the plain and simple reason that people judge one another. Point.

The place they do it doesn't matter, since it seems to be in our genes to judge, so why wouldn't people be judging on a porn site?

Everywhere where people interact with each other, their actions or sayings will be judged, either in silence, or 'aloud'.

Hi Jimmy - Happy New Year

I disagree not everybody judges immediately. Some enquire, seek clarification, before making an informed judgement. Some do not judge at all.

The point I was making was that I would expect a greater degree of tolerance or discussion because we all share one thing and that is that we are members of a porn forum. There are people who would judge us as wrong, sick even dangerous for being so, therefore we are all on the wrong end of certain peoples judgements.

Given that we have suffered such judgements might we, on the forum, be less judgemental on the sexual parts of the forum.

I am pleased that this thread has survived on General Discussion instead of suffering the death sentence of being moved to Sexuality.

Shows progress.

Thinskin

[x__orion]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

As for you, you fucking redneck retard... I'll answer this post in the New Year. I'm getting ready to go out and celebrate with friends, so I don't have time at the moment...

Looking forward to this!

[Pussy Patrol]

This is a PORN site - so why do we judge?

Because It’s human nature to judge others and by doing so, feel good about the self-fulfilling prophecy of “I know best.”

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by thinskin

Hi Jimmy - Happy New Year

I disagree not everybody judges immediately. Some enquire, seek clarification, before making an informed judgement. Some do not judge at all.

The point I was making was that I would expect a greater degree of tolerance or discussion because we all share one thing and that is that we are members of a porn forum. There are people who would judge us as wrong, sick even dangerous for being so, therefore we are all on the wrong end of certain peoples judgements.

Given that we have suffered such judgements might we, on the forum, be less judgemental on the sexual parts of the forum.

I am pleased that this thread has survived on General Discussion instead of suffering the death sentence of being moved to Sexuality.

Shows progress.

Thinskin

I don't judge. I evaluate. And then I judge. But that judgement doesn't influence my view on a person. It influences my view on that persons view.

Just like I am never mad at someone for what that person did wrong. I am mad at the situation, at the action, not at the person.

I'm a fairly tolerant guy. Can't stand stupidity though, including my own.

An I'm not part of a porn site. I'm part of a General Discussion forum, which happens to be on a porn site. Which is something that grew beyond me, that participation, as I only signed up to read some stories and to be able to 'judge' or evaluate those in a review.

I ended up at XNXX because I followed a writer who set up camp here. Et voilà. Seems I'm hooked.


And Happy New Year to you too, Thinnie

[trader1991]

i like just about everything and ur right its a porn site we are here to jack off and talk about jacking off. thats about it
-horny teen

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by crazyazaindian

i personally wouldn't touch suze with a dogs dick let alone mine as i value it too much and as far as her she will never have any respect from me as she nothing but a vindictive whore who thinks shes smarter than anyone on here as she said in a pm, i also ask for you to prove what you accuse me of you and norty dog if you can't stfu and leave me alone.

So what happened to you stopping posting? *sigh*

Your idiocy takes my breath away. You say I PM'd you, saying I am smarter than anyone on this forum. Bollox, I have never said that. What I did say was that I was far cleverer than you and that you would never 'win' in an argument with me.

As for proving your pedo proclivities, well I can only go by what i've seen in your posts. Really, you're only one of hundreds on here so that isn't my main issue with you. My main issue is your 'stupid'...

Oh, yeh...bring on the doggy dick. I'm sure it'd be far more pleasurable to me than your clumsy attemps at trying to fuck a real woman, not a child...

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

So what happened to you stopping posting? *sigh*

Your idiocy takes my breath away. You say I PM'd you, saying I am smarter than anyone on this forum. Bollox, I have never said that. What I did say was that I was far cleverer than you and that you would never 'win' in an argument with me.

As for proving your pedo proclivities, well I can only go by what i've seen in your posts. Really, you're only one of hundreds on here so that isn't my main issue with you. My main issue is your 'stupid'...

Oh, yeh...bring on the doggy dick. I'm sure it'd be far more pleasurable to me than your clumsy attemps at trying to fuck a real woman, not a child...

I find it to be kind of ironic that in a topic that seems to be against people judging --a topic you started yourself-- it is you that judges the loudest.

I'll silently retreat back to my corner now. But I'm grabbing for my German helmet and that bulletproof vest, just in case

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

I find it to be kind of ironic that in a topic that seems to be against people judging --a topic you started yourself-- it is you that judges the loudest.

I'll silently retreat back to my corner now. But I'm grabbing for my German helmet and that bulletproof vest, just in case

No need for protective clothing, Jimmy!

If you read my original OP, I am talking about the Sexuality forum. You will see I don't judge people on there for what they like sexually... Indian and I have been having a disagreement for several months and you will see it's not just about his liking for children. I will never condone that behaviour but I choose not comment on those kinds of threads. Simples!

[x__orion]

So where did this information about his proclivities for children come to light?

[x0Bella0x]

Originally Posted by x__orion

So where did this information about his proclivities for children come to light?

...why are so many people on this forum into kids..? and most are parents themselves...really scary thought.

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by x0Bella0x

...why are so many people on this forum into kids..? and most are parents themselves...really scary thought.

Yes, it is! Abuse is far more prevalent than we could ever imagine...

Orion, a PM is on it's way...

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by x__orion

So where did this information about his proclivities for children come to light?

Nobody has yet answered this question...

[thinskin]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

I don't judge. I evaluate. And then I judge. But that judgement doesn't influence my view on a person. It influences my view on that persons view.

Just like I am never mad at someone for what that person did wrong. I am mad at the situation, at the action, not at the person.

I'm a fairly tolerant guy. Can't stand stupidity though, including my own.

An I'm not part of a porn site. I'm part of a General Discussion forum, which happens to be on a porn site. Which is something that grew beyond me, that participation, as I only signed up to read some stories and to be able to 'judge' or evaluate those in a review.

I ended up at XNXX because I followed a writer who set up camp here. Et voilà. Seems I'm hooked.

And Happy New Year to you too, Thinnie

A very quick study of your history shows you do not confine yourself to General Discussion where I think knowledge, opinion and judgement are the driving force of the better threads.

I agree with Suze, however, a judgement especially a knee-jerk judgement, on sexuality makes one almost a hypocrite considering this is a porn forum.

Thinskin

[Caduceus]

Originally Posted by thinskin

A very quick study of your history shows you do not confine yourself to General Discussion where I think knowledge, opinion and judgement are the driving force of the better threads.

I agree with Suze, however, a judgement especially a knee-jerk judgement, on sexuality makes one almost a hypocrite considering this is a porn forum.

Thinskin

Almost isn't definite. And people can give their opinion. It crosses the line when someone goes and says what someone does is wrong. That is what I believe suze was referring to.

For example, here is a mini dialogue between person A and person B:

A: Should I have sex with _(insert ideal person here)_?

B: Having sex with (person stated above) is wrong and you shouldn't do it.

Do you see what is wrong with the above statement by person B? It is a person projecting their beliefs onto someone else. An ideal response would be something like: "I believe (this) is wrong, but you should be cautious and think of his/her feelings before you proceed".

There is also the alternative of not responding if you do not favor a topic.

[x__orion]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

Yes, it is! Abuse is far more prevalent than we could ever imagine...

Orion, a PM is on it's way...

Got it.

And damn, that's pretty suspect.

[thinskin]

Originally Posted by Caduceus

Almost isn't definite. And people can give their opinion. It crosses the line when someone goes and says what someone does is wrong. That is what I believe suze was referring to.

For example, here is a mini dialogue between person A and person B:

A: Should I have sex with _(insert ideal person here)_?

B: Having sex with (person stated above) is wrong and you shouldn't do it.

Do you see what is wrong with the above statement by person B? It is a person projecting their beliefs onto someone else. An ideal response would be something like: "I believe (this) is wrong, but you should be cautious and think of his/her feelings before you proceed".

There is also the alternative of not responding if you do not favor a topic.

I think we are both ´fucking ants´ here. We seem to be in basic agreement.

Thinskin

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by Caduceus

For example, here is a mini dialogue between person A and person B:

A: Should I have sex with _(insert ideal person here)_?

B: Having sex with (person stated above) is wrong and you shouldn't do it.

Do you see what is wrong with the above statement by person B? It is a person projecting their beliefs onto someone else. An ideal response would be something like: "I believe (this) is wrong, but you should be cautious and think of his/her feelings before you proceed".

There is also the alternative of not responding if you do not favor a topic.

Actually, what I object to is the following -

B: You sick bastard, don't even think of fucking *insert here* 'cause you'll go straight to hell!

People have and will have different opinions and morals. It's the abuse and hate towards people who start a thread talking about something that may not be deemed as 'normal', that I can't understand...

[ejls]

Originally Posted by x__orion

Got it.

And damn, that's pretty suspect.

But pretty suspect is not proof, is it? And if there is proof, has this information been turned over to the authorities? Because if there is proof, and if a person has knowledge of unlawful acts, and they do nothing about it, doesn't that make them an accessory to the crime? By not sharing this information with authorities, you are aiding in future criminal acts.

Just a thought - not judging.

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by ejls

But pretty suspect is not proof, is it? And if there is proof, has this information been turned over to the authorities? Because if there is proof, and if a person has knowledge of unlawful acts, and they do nothing about it, doesn't that make them an accessory to the crime? By not sharing this information with authorities, you are aiding in future criminal acts.

Just a thought - not judging.

Now you are just being stupid.

As this is an anonymous forum we have no evidence. We base our opinion, note I say opinion, in what people post. Nothing more.

[Caduceus]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

Actually, what I object to is the following -

B: You sick bastard, don't even think of fucking *insert here* 'cause you'll go straight to hell!

People have and will have different opinions and morals. It's the abuse and hate towards people who start a thread talking about something that may not be deemed as 'normal', that I can't understand...

I do agree with you suze
That is what I was making reference to
If someone was to say that they personally don't like something on a thread, that is okay. But when they tell someone that it is wrong to like something, or that because people do not behave as robots or carbon copies, those individuals are incorrectly behaving and should be chastised. When none of this is the case.

People need to have the freedom from judgment and the opportunity to do as they wish within the realms of local laws at least. There shouldn't be a fixed position for personal preference.

[Laras]

We are a race of ignorance at times, people will always need to express their opinion whether it offends or not, sad little world we live in isn't it!!

[Rockprincess]

Originally Posted by x__orion

So where did this information about his proclivities for children come to light?

Obviously, I wasn't aware of it either until the last few days!!!

[x__orion]

Originally Posted by Rockprincess

Obviously, I wasn't aware of it either until the last few days!!!

Some of it is pretty... thought-provoking, isn't it?

[lexin]

Originally Posted by Laras

We are a race of ignorance at times, people will always need to express their opinion whether it offends or not, sad little world we live in isn't it!!

Oh I so agree here. Most who come here all fired up with judgmental opinions suffer from the "ignorance syndrome". It is a porn site, what do they expect? I suspect some are religous do-gooders caught up in their own patthetic contadictions and the remainder just lack an open mind or sadly, are looking for attention. You'll never see them put a picture to thier idenity and no contact info because they love to hide behind a veil of weak anonymity, no better then ll the "dangerous" people in this world. A form of internet "terrorism" as they fire their bullets then run and hide.

[RedRain4]

Originally Posted by deidre79

mmm, likewise, I don't really want a President with the moral failings of a man such as one Mr. William Jefferson Clinton.

Deidre: u ceased to amaze me.

But back to the OP's question at hand:
I have not looked in the "Sexuality" section in quite some time for I haven't had the time myself. For the question I wll say this "judgement" is a way of making oneself feel better about their own shortcomings or dilemas that they maybe dealing with. For if people did not judge then people would have to let their own "sexuality" be real...

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

I don't judge. I evaluate. And then I judge. But that judgement doesn't influence my view on a person. It influences my view on that persons view.

Just like I am never mad at someone for what that person did wrong. I am mad at the situation, at the action, not at the person.

I'm a fairly tolerant guy. Can't stand stupidity though, including my own.

An I'm not part of a porn site. I'm part of a General Discussion forum, which happens to be on a porn site. Which is something that grew beyond me, that participation, as I only signed up to read some stories and to be able to 'judge' or evaluate those in a review.

I ended up at XNXX because I followed a writer who set up camp here. Et voilà. Seems I'm hooked.


And Happy New Year to you too, Thinnie

Originally Posted by thinskin

A very quick study of your history shows you do not confine yourself to General Discussion where I think knowledge, opinion and judgement are the driving force of the better threads.
Thinskin

Sorry to say this, but that's the most hollow comment I read in this thread. It means exactly two times nothing..

A 'very quick study' shows that 'I do not confine myself to General Discussion'..?

Hallelujah brother. You're one hell of a detective. Especially since I mentioned in the post you quoted that I came here to review stories...

To me, written stories are never porn, but erotic. Porn leaves nothing tho the imagination, erotiscism does...

And if I should buy season tickets to see the home matches of the local football team and I happen to wander on the pitch a couple of times, that doesn't automatically imply I'm part of the team.

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

Sorry to say this, but that's the most hollow comment I read in this thread. It means exactly two times nothing..

A 'very quick study' shows that 'I do not confine myself to General Discussion'..?

Hallelujah brother. You're one hell of a detective. Especially since I mentioned in the post you quoted that I came here to review stories...

To me, written stories are never porn, but erotic. Porn leaves nothing tho the imagination, erotiscism does...

And if I should buy season tickets to see the home matches of the local football team and I happen to wander on the pitch a couple of times, that doesn't automatically imply I'm part of the team.

Like you, Jimmy I came on here to read the stories, tho' not to review them. To say they are erotic and not porn as some kind of justification is quite hilarious. Most of them have nothing erotic in them, They are just out and out porn/wank material....*fnar, fnar*

Also, your analogy in regards to the football team...I don't get it. 99.9% of us use different parts of the forum and even if we don't we are still members of a 'porn site', even you, so why do you say you aren't?

Actually, I don't even understand why you made your posts at all. Is this what is called 'going off topic'?...

[talkisgood]

people judge because they can

[deidre79]

Originally Posted by RedRain4

Deidre: u ceased to amaze me.

But back to the OP's question at hand:
I have not looked in the "Sexuality" section in quite some time for I haven't had the time myself. For the question I wll say this "judgement" is a way of making oneself feel better about their own shortcomings or dilemas that they maybe dealing with. For if people did not judge then people would have to let their own "sexuality" be real...

RedRain, there are few if any members here that impress me. As humans we constantly judge and this site is no different. In public, private, at play we all judge but there we judge first by sight then by sound, not always. Here you have to evaluate the spoken word because we have no way of knowing who in fact we are really talking to. Hiring managers will tell you they know within the first five minutes of job interviews whether or not they are willing to hire you. We all carry a bias through life, I see it everyday here RR in everyones posts. +

[RedRain4]

Originally Posted by deidre79

RedRain, there are few if any members here that impress me. As humans we constantly judge and this site is no different. In public, private, at play we all judge but there we judge first by sight then by sound, not always. Here you have to evaluate the spoken word because we have no way of knowing who in fact we are really talking to. Hiring managers will tell you they know within the first five minutes of job interviews whether or not they are willing to hire you. We all carry a bias through life, I see it everyday here RR in everyones posts. +

I see where you are coming from....
But we can limit how and what judgement we pass about others..
Yes we all live with a bias about every little thing that is different from our selves but that doesn't give anybody the right to say that one person is better than another....

[thinskin]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

Sorry to say this, but that's the most hollow comment I read in this thread. It means exactly two times nothing..

A 'very quick study' shows that 'I do not confine myself to General Discussion'..?

Hallelujah brother. You're one hell of a detective. Especially since I mentioned in the post you quoted that I came here to review stories...

To me, written stories are never porn, but erotic. Porn leaves nothing tho the imagination, erotiscism does...

And if I should buy season tickets to see the home matches of the local football team and I happen to wander on the pitch a couple of times, that doesn't automatically imply I'm part of the team.

My Jimmy, what long toes you have?

Tell me, what exactly does a reply to a comment that means "two times nothing", add up to, would that be three times nothing. The number still has not changed.

You are adamant therefore that none of the stories posted on here constitute pornography. The etymology of the word pornography shows that it is derived from Greek and literally means writing about prostitutes.

Thinskin

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

Like you, Jimmy I came on here to read the stories, tho' not to review them. To say they are erotic and not porn as some kind of justification is quite hilarious. Most of them have nothing erotic in them, They are just out and out porn/wank material....*fnar, fnar*

Okay. Why do you want to give an explanation to my point of view? I don't have to justify anything, Suze. I tend to avoid stories that have nothing else to offer than a continuous shagfest. I'm not gonna claim that some of them don't redirect some of my blood to the lower abdominal regions, but I usually see right from the first paragraph where things are gonna go and if the author is any good.

The distinction between porn and erotica is for a great deal in the mind's eye, like a lot of things. Some explicit stuff doesn't necessarily mean it's porn.

To me, written porn is stuff where you sense that the author is more interested in getting his/her own rocks off than to come up with a decent narrative.

The word itself, by the way, is derived from Greek and means 'depictions of prostitution'.

Originally Posted by Suze3221

Also, your analogy in regards to the football team...I don't get it. 99.9% of us use different parts of the forum and even if we don't we are still members of a 'porn site', even you, so why do you say you aren't?

Because sometimes I like to argue just for argument's sake...

Originally Posted by Suze3221

Actually, I don't even understand why you made your posts at all. Is this what is called 'going off topic'?...

My post was a reply. And frankly, I don't understand why you made this post. At all.

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by thinskin

My Jimmy, what long toes you have?

Tell me, what exactly does a reply to a comment that means "two times nothing", add up to, would that be three times nothing. The number still has not changed.

You are adamant therefore that none of the stories posted on here constitute pornography. The etymology of the word pornography shows that it is derived from Greek and literally means writing about prostitutes.

Thinskin

It has nothing to do with me having long toes or not, Thinskin, but with you adding a comment that has no meaning or purpose, but to put yourself in an interesting perspective

Two times nothing was a free translation from the Flemish expression: "twee keer niks"

and me being adamant about there being no porn here, is a deduction you have made yourself.

While you have written the above response, i was busy writing another one. You can find some clarifications there-in...

[thinskin]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

It has nothing to do with me having long toes or not, Thinskin, but with you adding a comment that has no meaning or purpose, but to put yourself in an interesting perspective

Two times nothing was a free translation from the Flemish expression: "twee keer niks"

and me being adamant about there being no porn here, is a deduction you have made yourself.

While you have written the above response, i was busy writing another one. You can find some clarifications there-in...

Jimmy

I have no wish to fall out with a fellow potatoeater I just thought your original post about being a member of general discussion forum and not a porn forum was a little "snobbish". I would consider myself a bit of porno snob as well.

Your clarification is still cloudy. Where exactly is the line drawn, given the definition of pornography above, between pornographic literature and erotic literature? I suspect it is purely subjective, one mans lunch box will be another man's throbbing cock.

Ik probeer meer dan niks te zijn.

Forgive my Dutch if there are a few mistakes there but you know what I mean.

Groetjes

Thinskin

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

<snipped for drivel>

God, I always wanted to do that! Sorry Jimmy!

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

The distinction between porn and erotica is for a great deal in the mind's eye, like a lot of things. Some explicit stuff doesn't necessarily mean it's porn.

To me, written porn is stuff where you sense that the author is more interested in getting his/her own rocks off than to come up with a decent narrative.

The word itself, by the way, is derived from Greek and means 'depictions of prostitution'.

Yes, I do know that. I think it was TS that pointed it out somewhere. Just like everything else though, language evolves. Porn also means 'creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire'...

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

Because sometimes I like to argue just for argument's sake...

Yup, me too!

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

My post was a reply. And frankly, I don't understand why you made this post. At all.

What, do you mean the OP? I made it because I was curious and to possibly make people think. Nothing more, nothing less...

[deidre79]

Originally Posted by RedRain4

I see where you are coming from....
But we can limit how and what judgement we pass about others..
Yes we all live with a bias about every little thing that is different from our selves but that doesn't give anybody the right to say that one person is better than another....

I try to limit what I say here when it comes to judging others as I do in my real life. Everyone on the forum says they are better simply by posting and in fact your words above reveal your bias somewhat towards me, maybe not. Red Rain, what I rarely see on this forum is humility or kindness, I usually see wisecracks and immaturity.

[x__orion]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

God, I always wanted to do that! Sorry Jimmy!



Yes, I do know that. I think it was TS that pointed it out somewhere. Just like everything else though, language evolves. Porn also means 'creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire'...





Yup, me too!




What, do you mean the OP? I made it because I was curious and to possibly make people think. Nothing more, nothing less...

Would you argue that all written erotica is simply 'to stimulate sexual desire'? I wouldn't; rather, the material that I write is not designed to provoke a sexual response, but rather to simply provide readers with a story that they enjoy.

[Suze3221]

Originally Posted by x__orion

Would you argue that all written erotica is simply 'to stimulate sexual desire'? I wouldn't; rather, the material that I write is not designed to provoke a sexual response, but rather to simply provide readers with a story that they enjoy.

No, that's not what I said. I was discussing porn. Not erotica. If you look back at Jimmy's posts he blathered on about him not being a member of a porn forum and how he sees the stories as erotica and not porn. I had to disagree. As I said most stories are just wank fodder with nothing erotic to speak of.

I have read your stories Orion. Yes, they are erotic but...shit I can't even remember the disagreement we (Jimmy and I) were having. All I know is i'm correct, just as I always am!...

[RedRain4]

Originally Posted by deidre79

I try to limit what I say here when it comes to judging others as I do in my real life. Everyone on the forum says they are better simply by posting and in fact your words above reveal your bias somewhat towards me, maybe not. Red Rain, what I rarely see on this forum is humility or kindness, I usually see wisecracks and immaturity.

Wisecracks are the fabric of jokes and humor.......
But is very different from passing "judgement" upon another person based on their sexualitiy...If someone wants to pass a judgement about another person's sexuality rather than try to understand it or just leave it be then that is well beyond humor or wisecracks......My bias towards anyone or everyone isn't the topic of question...

[deidre79]

Originally Posted by RedRain4

Wisecracks are the fabric of jokes and humor.......
But is very different from passing "judgement" upon another person based on their sexualitiy...If someone wants to pass a judgement about another person's sexuality rather than try to understand it or just leave it be then that is well beyond humor or wisecracks......My bias towards anyone or everyone isn't the topic of question...

You show your bias and judgement everytime you post in any section here RR regardless of the fact you say you do not or you think you might be above it all. Everyone does it, they do...to be honest, so what.

[RedRain4]

Originally Posted by deidre79

You show your bias and judgement everytime you post in any section here RR regardless of the fact you say you do not or you think you might be above it all. Everyone does it, they do...to be honest, so what.

Okay show case and point...

[Rebeca Lewis]

I tend to write stories about young girls, and older men.
The longest, and most popular of these is called "Popping Ashley's little cherry", and it's about a man's incestues relationship with his nine year old daughter.
Now, of course I get comments like this: "Hey, you brainless idiots. Obviously, most of you have the IQ of a brick and no balls. Otherwise you would be reading and writing about sex with adults instead of children. I also notice that readers and writers don't show any contact ID. What are you afraid of?"
Strangly enough, I find those complimentary. I feel like, "WOW! It came off as so real to you that you got offended? Thank you."
However, the comments that really make me scratch my head are one's like this: "first i want to say, well admit that daddy daughter role play makes me very horny. have u noticed i wrote ROLE PLAY??
it can even be adults just playing daddy and little girl.
but u are one fucked up sicko to write about young girl. jesus she was 8 fucking years old. i mean u are fucking condoning child molestation and there is nothing more wrong in this world.
the guy just scarred his daughter for life and how the hell does an 8 year old have an orgasm???? no fucking freakin way she liked her father molesting her.
if that story was real the dad should be shot or hung from his balls.
do any of u know of sites where there are father daughter ROLE PLAY between adults?"

My reply to such things is: "So you're fimiliar with the CONCEPT of fantasy. that's a good start, but you fail to understand that the stories I write are exactaly that.The eight year old in question does not, in fact exist. Niether does the father. None of this happened. Relax. Get a life."

[Suze3221]

This thread is not about the kind of stories you write or the abuse you receive, though I will say it amazes me. It's funny how everyone gets on their high horse about incest/young/beast stories, yet they are by far the most popular!

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by thinskin

Jimmy

I have no wish to fall out with a fellow potatoeater I just thought your original post about being a member of general discussion forum and not a porn forum was a little "snobbish". I would consider myself a bit of porno snob as well.

Your clarification is still cloudy. Where exactly is the line drawn, given the definition of pornography above, between pornographic literature and erotic literature? I suspect it is purely subjective, one mans lunch box will be another man's throbbing cock.

Ik probeer meer dan niks te zijn.

Forgive my Dutch if there are a few mistakes there but you know what I mean.

Groetjes

Thinskin

Hey, I have no quarrell with you, Thinnie I just can't add a song and dance routine to show my pinkish state of mind everytime I respond to a response.

Like I said, the distinction between pornography and erotica is in the mind's eye, or the eye of the beholder, or, if you like, relative from person to person.

[Rebeca Lewis]

I don't spend a lot of time in the forums, but I assume from your thread that a lot of the same people comment stories negetivly as well, and I thought I'd give you a sample of what writers get from these haters.
Sometimes I wonder if the people in question really think what they write, or if they're just trying to get a rise out of me. The internet seems to be full of people like that.
Oh, and by the way, you are right on with "...they are by far the most popular!" My incest story has been read by twice as many people as any of my other stories, and consistanly gets rated in the 90's.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by Rebeca Lewis

I don't spend a lot of time in the forums, but I assume from your thread that a lot of the same people comment stories negetivly as well, and I thought I'd give you a sample of what writers get from these haters.
Sometimes I wonder if the people in question really think what they write, or if they're just trying to get a rise out of me. The internet seems to be full of people like that.

So as to avoid having your ass handed to you for assuming what this thread is about - here is the topic in question, as posed by Suze:

Looking at various posts in sexuality, I have noticed how people judge.

You like beast = you're a fucking freak!
You (m) like cock = you're gay/a faggot!
You like pissing = *you're a dirty fuck!
You like scat = *see above
You like GH's = You make me puke!

The above is just how I see it. To me, fantasy, role play or even just asking the question is harmless and as such, people shouldn't be ripped a new arsehole for what they post. I wouldn't come on here looking for advice, but that's because of how people react and possibly I have at least some common sense.

Why do you think there's is no decent discussion going on in Sexuality?


While your thoughts on writers and their feelings are very interesting, why don't you post that thread in the Sex Stories Forum.

[thinskin]

Originally Posted by JimmyJump

Hey, I have no quarrell with you, Thinnie I just can't add a song and dance routine to show my pinkish state of mind everytime I respond to a response.

Like I said, the distinction between pornography and erotica is in the mind's eye, or the eye of the beholder, or, if you like, relative from person to person.

OK that's more or less what I said. Everybody's perspective is different and what one person finds reprehensible another will find exciting.

Love Antwerp by the way a real drinking town.

Thinskin

[JimmyJump]

Originally Posted by Suze3221

Just like everything else though, language evolves. Porn also means 'creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire'...

Language does evolve indeed. But the meaning of words usually doesn't. Words get mis-used, yes, and the mis-use gets to live a life of its own, spawning new generations, who seldom open a dictionary, to believe that a certain word has a certain meaning, which in fact it hasn't, if you still follow.

On the other hand, some expressions get a totally new meaning sometimes. Like "Rock 'n' Roll".

Rock 'n' roll was slang for a spot of legs-up in the hay, make luuuurve. A nice fuck, in other words. Because of bands playing a certain new type of music made all these funny, jerky moves while performing, the new music style got the moniker 'Rock 'n' Roll'...

Pornography is still the depiction, through words or visuals, of sexually explicit material, despite other deriving activities you might want to stick to it