Underage stories

[ELaken-Palmer]

The administrator, of this site, apparently feels that allowing "pedo" stories might be detrimental to the site and to him. He stated, through a moderator, that he was "hesitant" to set an age limit but suggested the age of 16 as a "guideline". That limit has stifled creativity, encouraged the "witch hunters" and caused a lot of good stories to be removed and some very good writers to either exit or stop contributing.

Pedo is defined as "...a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (age 13 years or younger)...". Therefore, to comply with Lexmark's original intent, an age limit of 13 has been petitioned for here. This will remove "pedo" stories from the forum but still alow for the writing of creative, sexual discovery and coming of age stories.

That petition is located here... http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=259518

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer

You really are quite the Little Moralist, aren't you?

And you are quite the dumbass.

Anything edgy will have a content that would disgust the general public but they're fantasies and they're written,in the main, for the purpose of "getting off to"

Finally...the dumbfuck admits that these stories are for jerking off to.

Why are you so concerned about the stories? We can deal with them; we're adults with free will and the ability to differentiate between real and fantasy.

As we think so we are. Filling ones head with such garbage can only do damage to ones mind and how one thinks about and views children. Some of that number will act upon those things....

And I'm delighted to see you cannot accept the definition of pedophile- it just proves how obsessed you are.

I accept the standard dictionary definition of it just fine, asswipe.

Originally Posted by ELaken-Palmer

...That limit has stifled creativity, encouraged the "witch hunters" and caused a lot of good stories to be removed and some very good writers to either exit or stop contributing.

"Good" pedo story writers you mean....

Pedo is defined as "...a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (age 13 years or younger)..."

So per this definition as long as one only molests just one little girl in ones lifetime one isn't a pedo.

[Daddycums]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Sexual urges don't work that way. Porn feeds those fires (urges) and makes them stronger. One needs stronger and stronger stimuli over time in order to get off. It's like a drug habit.

Please cite the evidence that supports your position, or preface your statement with "In my opinion".

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Sometimes people are repelled by something but still see it either out of curiosity or by accident. If something is presented in a certain way then that might lead one to start having certain fantasies and feelings....

This is how my shemale fetish started. So I know that it can happen.

Fine. It can happen. Just like playing too much dungeons and dragons can make you live underground and commit suicide. Just like playing Doom can make you go shoot up a school. Just like reading Harry Potter can turn you into a satanist. Just like reading chivalric romances can make you go tilt at windmills.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

False. While it's true that normally one does as one thinks one may not do so for various reasons (e.g., fear of getting caught, being ostracized, etc.).

Or because they don't need to do it in real life because fantasies (possibly fueled by what they read) are enough.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Of course, I'd rather that no actual kids be harmed. But the problem is that not every pedo keeps it all in his or her head. All that such stories do is feed the desire and make the urge stronger.

Or the stories quench the desire and prevent them from ever acting out those desires.

The question is which happens more often: A person who would not otherwise rape a child reads a story that causes him to do so, or a person who would have raped a child reads a story that satisfies him so that he doesn't do so in real life. If you claim to have an informed opinion, you need to address that second possibility. Don't just ignore it.

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by Daddycums

Keep that last line in mind, because I'm going to come back to it in a moment.



Possibly. But using your fire metaphor, have you ever heard of a controlled burn? Firefighters sometimes use this method when they judge that putting out a fire is less optimal than just letting it burn. You channel the fire some place harmless so that it doesn't do any real damage, and it eventually burns itself out. Take a look at some of my previous comments on this post and you should see what I'm getting at here.



Really? Because according to you, all sane, rational, civilized people should find it sickening and just move on. That means that the only ones who would read it would be insane, irrational, or uncivilized. In other words, the fire is already there.



I deny the above. You're only half right; what we think about and what we do are the things that make us who we are.

Would you rather have someone fantasize about a fictional 9-year-old girl, or go out and rape a real 9-year-old girl? Isn't it possible that reading stories like this will actually prevent some pedophiles from harming real children?

The only people who are really scared about "paedo stories" are latent paedophiles who are unable to control themselves. Writers of underage stories do not come into this category but JoeDirty (or should we call him FuckingDirtyJoe) certainly does. He is a repressed paedophile who is afraid that a story might set him off on a child-raping frenzy. He ought to be banned from this site.

[scotsmitch2001]

Angel lays down the baton of moral righteousness.....and Joe Dirty picks it up, spewing the exact same rhetoric. Nothing new being said....
A rose by any other name blah blah blah.....

[clarise]

I post on here every day or so, and I know I'm pretty much ignored, because I'm just a dizzy nerdy little weirdo who isn't even writing porn. So it's like, "Just STFU, Clarise, let the grownups rant, and go back to your fucking poetry."

And that's all right. I like poetry.

But the more I think about this mess, and how it just won't die, I've decided I have a problem with both aisles on this crazy train. Here's why.

I don't lurk in the pictures/vidz area. I'm just not into the pix. (Mods, if I'm lying, call me out!) But I do stumble over there once in a blue moon.

And I'm there enough to know that the most popular pix and vidz are the ones where the "women" are shaved hairless, babyfaced, and have their hair up in ponytails. The point of that "barely legal" look is to make them look like minors. Right?

And there's a whole genre of pix in which the girls are flat as boards and dressed in schoolgirl costumes, to make them look like they're still in middle school or even sixth grade if you squint. Right???????

So, if the guys here find pix of eighteeners who look like thirteeners and wank to them while fantasizing about their own nieces or daughters or neighbors...

...how the bleep is that any different than when those same guys find a story featuring a twelve or thirteen year old niece or daughter or neighbor, and wank off to that?

If the difference is that the "schoolgirl sluts" in the pix are 18+ in real life and old enough to choose the profession and therefore not victims... if the point here is victimhood...

...then who the bleep is the victim in a collection of fictional words in a stroke story?

My point is... fuck. I don't know what my point is. Oh, yeah. I know. My point is, how the bleep can anyone have the fucking gall to visit Door A of a porn site, jerk off to pix and vidz, spatter their keyboard with slime, and then waltz over to Door B to pick on the perverts who are jerking off to words?

Just saying. It's weird. The whole topic is wacko. I don't get it. I don't get it, at all.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Daddycums

Please cite the evidence that supports your position, or preface your statement with "In my opinion".

I will do no such a namby-pamby thing. My position is supported by human nature and reason. It's the pedo defenders here who have no facts but only empty rhetoric and justifications for the unjustifiable.

...Or because they don't need to do it in real life because fantasies (possibly fueled by what they read) are enough.

Or the stories quench the desire and prevent them from ever acting out those desires.

The question is which happens more often: A person who would not otherwise rape a child reads a story that causes him to do so, or a person who would have raped a child reads a story that satisfies him so that he doesn't do so in real life. If you claim to have an informed opinion, you need to address that second possibility. Don't just ignore it.

You are a dumbass, aren't you?

Why do you suppose that I think about anal sex ALL THE FUCKING TIME?! It's because of watching and jerking off to lots of anal porn, idiot.

Porn hasn't lessened my anal sexual desires. They've made them stronger. That's how porn works on the brain.

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

The only people who are really scared about "paedo stories" are latent paedophiles who are unable to control themselves. Writers of underage stories do not come into this category but JoeDirty (or should we call him FuckingDirtyJoe) certainly does. He is a repressed paedophile who is afraid that a story might set him off on a child-raping frenzy. He ought to be banned from this site.

Quit projecting!!!

[Prurient Purveyer]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

And you are quite the dumbass.

Finally...the dumbfuck admits that these stories are for jerking off to.

As we think so we are. Filling ones head with such garbage can only do damage to ones mind and how one thinks about and views children. Some of that number will act upon those things....

I accept the standard dictionary definition of it just fine, asswipe.

"Good" pedo story writers you mean....
So per this definition as long as one only molests just one little girl in ones lifetime one isn't a pedo.

It isn't easy to raise the bar on "terminally stupid" Joseph but somehow you've managed to do it.

You have no case- don't you understand that?

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer

...You have no case- don't you understand that?

But you do have a case.


A case of the dumbfucks.

[scotsmitch2001]

you do not blame the instrument, you do not blame the tool, words are what they are, no more no less, it is people who empower them.
reading the bible doesnt make people kill, it just gives them the excuse, the justification, the urge is there already.
Much the same with pedo,s...Reading a pedo story does not a pedo make....

[crackedjaguar@hotmail.com]

Originally Posted by Prurient Purveyer

It isn't easy to raise the bar on "terminally stupid" Joseph but somehow you've managed to do it.

You have no case- don't you understand that?

+1
can we nominate him for one of these soon please?
http://darwinawards.com/

[clarise]

Originally Posted by clarise

Time for me to chime in here.

...


Now, this is all IMHO. Please don't report my latest two Greta threads ("Greta Watches...") out of spite!

Well, well, boys! Nothing like dangling the proverbial hook, eh?

Congratulations!

It's official!

One of you has just forced the removal of the last five stories that I will ever post here! Congrats! Kudos!

Oddly enough, only one of the five featured sexual activity of an underage character, and the story was not erotic. But no matter, no matter! It's all good!

You have made XNXX safe for stories about upstanding church-going daddies and four-foot-one seventy pound pigtailed dollies in soggy panties who pinkie-promise that they're sixteen. Whoever you are, take your hand off your prick for a sec and give yourself a nice big pat on the back.

[JuiceLuver48]

I wonder how many of the fine, outstanding, moral citizens who frequent our forum and, in particular, this thread have read 'Lolita' by Vladimir Nabokov?

If any have (and I suspect the number is more than 1) would they care to explain how they square this with their conscience?

I'll happily concede that I've read it (more than once but still in single figures).

Does this mean that I'm a paedophile or have latent desires in that direction?
Even worse, does this mean that I will be banned from this site? Please enlighten me.

Note : Remember, this was written by an Englishman and should only be read by those who understand irony and sarcasm.

I realise that this will automatically ban many from the far reaches of North America but so be it.

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by clarise

Well, well, boys! Nothing like dangling the proverbial hook, eh?

Congratulations!

It's official!

One of you has just forced the removal of the last five stories that I will ever post here! Congrats! Kudos!

Oddly enough, only one of the five featured sexual activity of an underage character, and the story was not erotic. But no matter, no matter! It's all good!

You have made XNXX safe for stories about upstanding church-going daddies and four-foot-one seventy pound pigtailed dollies in soggy panties who pinkie-promise that they're sixteen. Whoever you are, take your hand off your prick for a sec and give yourself a nice big pat on the back.

Dear Clarise,

We may have had spats in the past but I have put all that behind me. It truly pains me to discover that you have had your stories reported. I don't think it requires the brain power of Einstein to put 2 and 2 together and conclude with the assumption that you were reported by Mr "18-year-old minimum who likes to invite Shemales into his rectum". He doesn't worry that the people involved in the videos may contract AIDS through not using condoms; his is a greater crusade. His sole aim is to protect young fictitious characters from other equally fictitious characters who may be equally as young or older and wish to divert them from the path of purity. He sounds like the spokesman for the Catholic Church who tells the followers to abstain from "un-missionary sex" while over-indulging himself in every sexual pervertion under the sun.

Once again I would like to say how sad I am that one of the most talented writers ever to grace this site has had her works removed by a small-minded filthy pervert who wouldn't know art if it inserted itself in his arse-hole.....just as long as it was 18 years old.

Wee Hector.

[clarise]

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

Dear Clarise,

We may have had spats in the past but I have put all that behind me. It truly pains me to discover that you have had your stories reported. I don't think it requires the brain power of Einstein to put 2 and 2 together and conclude with the assumption that you were reported by Mr "18-year-old minimum who likes to invite Shemales into his rectum". He doesn't worry that the people involved in the videos may contract AIDS through not using condoms; his is a greater crusade. His sole aim is to protect young fictitious characters from other equally fictitious characters who may be equally as young or older and wish to divert them from the path of purity. He sounds like the spokesman for the Catholic Church who tells the followers to abstain from "un-missionary sex" while over-indulging himself in every sexual pervertion under the sun.

Once again I would like to say how sad I am that one of the most talented writers ever to grace this site has had her works removed by a small-minded filthy pervert who wouldn't know art if it inserted itself in his arse-hole.....just as long as it was 18 years old.

Wee Hector.

Believe it or not, I have always liked you, Wee Hector. You amuse and delight me. A rarity in this place.

But please slow down and back up for a minute.

This was not the work of Joe Dirty. Absolutely, positively not. Nor was it the work of Carrie, or BostonMassTina, or WhaWhaWha, or AngelEyes15, or Amas Veritas, or any of the other usual suspects who are being accused of "ruining" this place.

Who was it? I have a short list. Of course I do. You'd be surprised. Very surprised.

No more speculation from me. Because it does not matter, and it's all good. Just please leave Joe Dirty out of it. Thanks.

[onehandedtypist]

What a delight. This is why I haven't bothered to contribute much if anything here. The moralists will have it their way regardless and there is nothing that can be done.

Whether a person enjoys reading about menstruating women or shemales who are "convincingly" female except of course for their appendage, I don't really see why people are so afraid of words on a screen.

We need to stop blaming the guns for murdering people.

[ahorsewithnoname]

It. just. sucks.

[onehandedtypist]

The only thing we can do is promote ELP's petition. It is the last vestige of freedom that can once again be ours. Otherwise, writers like clarise will be thwarted from ever posting their stories here.

[ejls]

It wasn't a moralist, OHT. It was not part of the moral minority or anyone else who doesn't believe the age limit should be lowered. Please, do not blame any one of them.

[freethinker]

Originally Posted by ejls

It wasn't a moralist, OHT. It was not part of the moral minority or anyone else who doesn't believe the age limit should be lowered. Please, do not blame any one of them.

Put the blame where it belongs - admin. The promise when I came here was no censorship. They reneged on that promise.

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by clarise

Well, well, boys! Nothing like dangling the proverbial hook, eh?

Congratulations!

It's official!

One of you has just forced the removal of the last five stories that I will ever post here! Congrats! Kudos!

Oddly enough, only one of the five featured sexual activity of an underage character, and the story was not erotic. But no matter, no matter! It's all good!

You have made XNXX safe for stories about upstanding church-going daddies and four-foot-one seventy pound pigtailed dollies in soggy panties who pinkie-promise that they're sixteen. Whoever you are, take your hand off your prick for a sec and give yourself a nice big pat on the back.

Please reconsider, Clarise. It took a total moron a few seconds to wipe out what may be many months of work but you are our Shakespeare, our Molière, our Goethe. If you give up then what hope is there for the rest of us? As you say we may as well give up trying to write anything decent and reduce ourselves to churning out garbage and shite. Okay maybe you didn't say it but I did. If this is the future of the site then it officially died today especially in view of what ejls told us. This was a cowardly attack by someone who purports to support free speech.

My apologies to Joe for implicating him in this sin.

So who is the guilty party? Whoever you are we can but thank you for installing a climate of suspicion and disgust on the forum.

[onehandedtypist]

Originally Posted by ejls

It wasn't a moralist, OHT. It was not part of the moral minority or anyone else who doesn't believe the age limit should be lowered. Please, do not blame any one of them.

I blame myself for ever thinking this place would survive being raped of its individuality.

It was good while it lasted.

[ELaken-Palmer]

This should be a collaborative situation and not just an automatic "report and remove". If someone finds underage content in a story and reports that story to a moderator, that moderator should not automatically remove the story but should read it themselves and then remove it at their discretion or not remove it if they found it to have any redeeming artistic merit. Only a moderator should be (and is) able to remove a story or ban a user.

How about it, moderators?

[ejls]

I read every chapter previous to the report. I can't speak for other mods. When reporting a story, by the way, I'm sure you know to report the specifics and not just say underaged. As in the report regarding Clarise's stories, the person was very specific about ages and also offered a commentary on their feelings about the story line. Based on that report, why would a mod be required to read each chapter? Can't you all be trusted when you report things?

[ejls]

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

Please reconsider, Clarise. It took a total moron a few seconds to wipe out what may be many months of work but you are our Shakespeare, our Molière, our Goethe. If you give up then what hope is there for the rest of us? As you say we may as well give up trying to write anything decent and reduce ourselves to churning out garbage and shite. Okay maybe you didn't say it but I did. If this is the future of the site then it officially died today especially in view of what ejls told us. This was a cowardly attack by someone who purports to support free speech.

My apologies to Joe for implicating him in this sin.

So who is the guilty party? Whoever you are we can but thank you for installing a climate of suspicion and disgust on the forum.

And they did it so well.

[ELaken-Palmer]

Originally Posted by ejls

I read every chapter previous to the report. I can't speak for other mods. When reporting a story, by the way, I'm sure you know to report the specifics and not just say underaged. As in the report regarding Clarise's stories, the person was very specific about ages and also offered a commentary on their feelings about the story line. Based on that report, why would a mod be required to read each chapter? Can't you all be trusted when you report things?

Different people see different things and so many have their prejudices. When they see a character described as being twelve years old they report it. All they should have to write is "underage" as their reason for the report. It should then be the moderator who reads the story and gleans that the character remembers starting to have sexual activity at the age of twelve but is now nineteen and the story is about her having sex with her lover in the present. A moderator might then allow that story as it did not contain descriptions of sex with a twelve year old. We have to trust the moderators to do the moderating, right? It should NEVER be left up to us (the forum members).

[JackassTales]

Originally Posted by ejls

Does that mean if I have a sexual fantasy about another woman, it makes me a lesbian?

OMG, I AM A LESBIAN!!!
At least I'm not an underaged one...

[ejls]

Originally Posted by ELaken-Palmer

Different people see different things and so many have their prejudices. When they see a character described as being twelve years old they report it. All they should have to write is "underage" as their reason for the report. It should then be the moderator who reads the story and gleans that the character remembers starting to have sexual activity at the age of twelve but is now nineteen and the story is about her having sex with her lover in the present. A moderator might then allow that story as it did not contain descriptions of sex with a twelve year old. We have to trust the moderators to do the moderating, right? It should NEVER be left up to us (the forum members).

Then why would a respected member of the stories forum report a series of stories written by another respected member of the stories forum and give specific ages of the characters of that story? Are you saying we should never believe this respected member? Are you saying that member lied for whatever purpose? Volunteers are here when they can be. If you expect each mod and admin to read a 5-7 part series for validation of the specifics sited in the report by a respected member in good standing, then I think you are living in a world where people don't have to work or spend time with their families.

Tell me, ELP, given those circumstances, if we found the member who made the report lied, should that member be exposed and made to apologize? I mean, I'm having a hard time understanding why this member made the report, if it was a lie? To prove a point? To show that 3 mods in 3 different countries can't keep up, given the 43 spam reports that came in a 12 hr period? Don't you think that the spam here keeps them busy enough?

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by ELaken-Palmer

Different people see different things and so many have their prejudices. When they see a character described as being twelve years old they report it. All they should have to write is "underage" as their reason for the report. It should then be the moderator who reads the story and gleans that the character remembers starting to have sexual activity at the age of twelve but is now nineteen and the story is about her having sex with her lover in the present. A moderator might then allow that story as it did not contain descriptions of sex with a twelve year old. We have to trust the moderators to do the moderating, right? It should NEVER be left up to us (the forum members).

Fortunately it doesn't work like that. The mods have to,and do, work to strict rules. If a story infringes the rules then it it is removed. The fact that Clarise's stories have been removed simply proves what a remarkable job the mods are doing. Even though I totally disapprove of the reporting of Clarise's stories and would prefer that the reporter be banned it proves that we are all equals.

[ELaken-Palmer]

Originally Posted by ejls

Then why would a respected member of the stories forum report a series of stories written by another respected member of the stories forum and give specific ages of the characters of that story? Are you saying we should never believe this respected member? Are you saying that member lied for whatever purpose? Volunteers are here when they can be. If you expect each mod and admin to read a 5-7 part series for validation of the specifics sited in the report by a respected member in good standing, then I think you are living in a world where people don't have to work or spend time with their families.

Tell me, ELP, given those circumstances, if we found the member who made the report lied, should that member be exposed and made to apologize? I mean, I'm having a hard time understanding why this member made the report, if it was a lie? To prove a point? To show that 3 mods in 3 different countries can't keep up, given the 43 spam reports that came in a 12 hr period? Don't you think that the spam here keeps them busy enough?

Was the report on clarise's story a lie? If someone falsely reported that her story contained underage characters then shouldn't the moderator have not removed it? That's all I'm asking. Was her story removed by a jealous writer using a moderator? It is the moderator who has the job of removing offending stories. I am just saying that they should take the time to look at what they are removing and not just go by the word of whomever files the report. Is that not fair? It gives us a last line of defense.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by ELaken-Palmer

Was the report on clarise's story a lie? If someone falsely reported that her story contained underage characters then shouldn't the moderator have not removed it? That's all I'm asking. Was her story removed by a jealous writer using a moderator? It is the moderator who has the job of removing offending stories. I am just saying that they should take the time to look at what they are removing and not just go by the word of whomever files the report. Is that not fair? It gives us a last line of defense.

And I'm saying that the mods rely on the accuracy of reports when dealing with the numbers of complaints and spam that comes in on a daily basis. Are you now blaming the mods for a removing a series of stories that this respected stories forum member reported? This member gave specific ages which went against the guidelines. And if the stories weren't removed in a timely matter, would there have been backlash in the forum for the mods not doing there job? It's to be expected. Everyone is very vocal when we are not available every hour of the day to see to each report.

I'm not sure what their motive was - I wish I knew. What I do know is that it was not a report made by someone who is anti-pedo, moral minority or against lowering the age limit on the forum. I don't want to see anyone blaming them. They may be against underaged stories, but they were not the ones that reported Clarise.

[Prurient Purveyer]

Originally Posted by ejls

Then why would a respected member of the stories forum report a series of stories written by another respected member of the stories forum and give specific ages of the characters of that story? Are you saying we should never believe this respected member? Are you saying that member lied for whatever purpose? Volunteers are here when they can be. If you expect each mod and admin to read a 5-7 part series for validation of the specifics sited in the report by a respected member in good standing, then I think you are living in a world where people don't have to work or spend time with their families.

Tell me, ELP, given those circumstances, if we found the member who made the report lied, should that member be exposed and made to apologize? I mean, I'm having a hard time understanding why this member made the report, if it was a lie? To prove a point? To show that 3 mods in 3 different countries can't keep up, given the 43 spam reports that came in a 12 hr period? Don't you think that the spam here keeps them busy enough?

OK, so some fine upstanding respected member of the forum took it upon him or herself to report these Stories of Dear Clarice's and I'm sure the world is a better place morally because of it

Would the aforementioned fine upstanding member like to stand and receive the applause acclamation he /she so rightly deserves?

Or would he/ she like to carry on like a snotty little sneak?

Just askin'

[Daddycums]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

I will do no such a namby-pamby thing. My position is supported by human nature

You have your own experience as your single point of evidence. I suppose it's human nature to get stubborn and defensive about a position you feel strongly about even if it's not logical, but I don't think that's what you're getting at.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

and reason.

Reason is based upon logic. Your logic so far seems to be, "it happened this way to me, therefore it happens this way to everyone." Doesn't seem particularly logical nor reasonable to me.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

It's the pedo defenders here who have no facts but only empty rhetoric and justifications for the unjustifiable.

Possibly, but you haven't really shown any facts either, have you? Even after I specifically requested them.

In my opinion, your lack of willingness to research the facts suggests that you stubbornly refuse to listen to reason; preferring to take an unsubstantiated position and get defensive when anyone contradicts it. Rather sad, really.

And before you turn that around and put that back on me, read through my posts on this thread and you'll see that I do not state things as fact that I can't prove. On the contrary, I'm very careful to simply challenge other people's positions by bringing up alternatives. When I do take a stand, I am careful to preface it with "In my opinion..." or "I believe that..." or "I agree that..." If someone will actually show me the facts that prove my opinion wrong, I'll be happy to change it.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

You are a dumbass, aren't you?

Possibly, but if so, it has nothing to do with the discussion on this thread.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Why do you suppose that I think about anal sex ALL THE FUCKING TIME?! It's because of watching and jerking off to lots of anal porn, idiot.

Porn hasn't lessened my anal sexual desires. They've made them stronger. That's how porn works on the brain.

Again, a careful reading of my posts will show that I have never refuted your claim that porn can do that. In fact, I'll come right out and say that I believe that claim. I have refuted, however, the claim that that is the only outcome, and I have suggested that in other cases, porn can have just the opposite effect. You still have not attempted to address that possibility. Calling me names and reiterating your opinion in ever stronger tones certainly doesn't change my mind on the matter. It just makes you look childish. In my opinion.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by scotsmitch2001

you do not blame the instrument, you do not blame the tool, words are what they are, no more no less, it is people who empower them.
reading the bible doesnt make people kill, it just gives them the excuse, the justification, the urge is there already.
Much the same with pedo,s...Reading a pedo story does not a pedo make....

But a pedo porn story is designed to appeal to the lust for children as sexual objects. IF one finds such a story erotic then one is a pedo. End of.

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

...I don't think it requires the brain power of Einstein to put 2 and 2 together and conclude with the assumption that you were reported by Mr "18-year-old minimum who likes to invite Shemales into his rectum". He doesn't worry that the people involved in the videos may contract AIDS through not using condoms; his is a greater crusade. His sole aim is to protect young fictitious characters from other equally fictitious characters who may be equally as young or older and wish to divert them from the path of purity...."

I didn't report her stories. I don't even read any of the stories. I much prefer my porn to be more visual.

I'm not trying to protect fictitious characters, asswipe. I'm trying to protect kids from being even thought of as objects of sexual desire.

Originally Posted by Daddycums

You have your own experience as your single point of evidence. I suppose it's human nature to get stubborn and defensive about a position you feel strongly about even if it's not logical, but I don't think that's what you're getting at.

Reason is based upon logic. Your logic so far seems to be, "it happened this way to me, therefore it happens this way to everyone." Doesn't seem particularly logical nor reasonable to me.

Possibly, but you haven't really shown any facts either, have you? Even after I specifically requested them.

In my opinion, your lack of willingness to research the facts suggests that you stubbornly refuse to listen to reason; preferring to take an unsubstantiated position and get defensive when anyone contradicts it. Rather sad, really.

And before you turn that around and put that back on me, read through my posts on this thread and you'll see that I do not state things as fact that I can't prove. On the contrary, I'm very careful to simply challenge other people's positions by bringing up alternatives. When I do take a stand, I am careful to preface it with "In my opinion..." or "I believe that..." or "I agree that..." If someone will actually show me the facts that prove my opinion wrong, I'll be happy to change it.

Possibly, but if so, it has nothing to do with the discussion on this thread.

Again, a careful reading of my posts will show that I have never refuted your claim that porn can do that. In fact, I'll come right out and say that I believe that claim. I have refuted, however, the claim that that is the only outcome, and I have suggested that in other cases, porn can have just the opposite effect. You still have not attempted to address that possibility. Calling me names and reiterating your opinion in ever stronger tones certainly doesn't change my mind on the matter. It just makes you look childish. In my opinion.

Some of the things that you responded to weren't directed at you. I save my wrath for assholes like the one that I was responding to.

It isn't just my own experience though. There have been studies, etc. over the years which back up what I've said about how porn actually increases sexual desires and makes a person think about it more rather than less.

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

I didn't report her stories. I don't even read any of the stories. I much prefer my porn to be more visual.

I'm not trying to protect fictitious characters, asswipe. I'm trying to protect kids from being even thought of as objects of sexual desire.

Some of the things that you responded to weren't directed at you. I save my wrath for assholes like the one that I was responding to.

It isn't just my own experience though. There have been studies, etc. over the years which back up what I've said about how porn actually increases sexual desires and makes a person think about it more rather than less.

Go to the top of the class, Joe. It's just the same for the paedophiles you talk about. They are not going to come onto a site like XNXX to read a love-story between two 13 year-olds. They're out there downloading CP photos and videos. Or maybe even your shemale photos. How come you don't upload any photos of 40/50 y/o shemales? Of course, you want to be just at the limit of being called a paedophile.

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

I'm not trying to protect fictitious characters, asswipe. I'm trying to protect kids from being even thought of as objects of sexual desire.

Then fuck off to some place like Facebook and preach your gospel to the young kids there.

If there are paedophiles here they are certainly not going to change their ways because of the rantings of a professed shit-shover like you.

[scotsmitch2001]

can't really see the fuss...ELP, you know where i stand on this issue, I have never been shy about it.
Clarise wrote a story that contained the retelling of the rape of a character under the age given in the rules. Clarise knew what she was doing when she wrote it.
It was banned.
She wasn't.
maybe I should check see if my story has gone?

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by scotsmitch2001

can't really see the fuss...ELP, you know where i stand on this issue, I have never been shy about it.
Clarise wrote a story that contained the retelling of the rape of a character under the age given in the rules. Clarise knew what she was doing when she wrote it.
It was banned.
She wasn't.
maybe I should check see if my story has gone?

Give me the reference of the story and I will arrange for a mod to have it removed. I just hope it doesn't have a 5 million-word sentence like that of Clarise otherwise you can report it yourself.

[scotsmitch2001]

Duly noted wee man

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

Go to the top of the class, Joe. It's just the same for the paedophiles you talk about. They are not going to come onto a site like XNXX to read a love-story between two 13 year-olds. They're out there downloading CP photos and videos. Or maybe even your shemale photos. How come you don't upload any photos of 40/50 y/o shemales? Of course, you want to be just at the limit of being called a paedophile.

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

Then fuck off to some place like Facebook and preach your gospel to the young kids there.

If there are paedophiles here they are certainly not going to change their ways because of the rantings of a professed shit-shover like you.

I'm not gay, asswipe! Nor am I into "dirty anal." So you can go fuck yourself!

If you don't think that there are pedos that like to read erotic pedo stories then you're more of a dumbfuck than I thought you were.

[ELaken-Palmer]

This is not about JoeDirty.

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

I'm not gay, asswipe! Nor am I into "dirty anal." So you can go fuck yourself!

If you don't think that there are pedos that like to read erotic pedo stories then you're more of a dumbfuck than I thought you were.

You're into shemale anal which comes down to the same thing as they are men/boys using hormones. You're still a homosexual shit-shoving, cock-sucking gay poof.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

You're into shemale anal which comes down to the same thing as they are men/boys using hormones. You're still a homosexual shit-shoving, cock-sucking gay poof.

I don't like shit, asswipe.

Any woman or shemale that I would fuck in the ass would have a very clean and lovely smelling asshole. So clean that one could eat out of it and one that smells like roses.

Also, any cock that I'd suck would be attached to a pretty feminine looking shemale.

I'm not into dudes, mofo.

But even if I were into hairy-legged dudes it STILL wouldn't make your pedophilia right, asshole!!!

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

I don't like shit, asswipe.

Any woman or shemale that I would fuck in the ass would have a very clean and lovely smelling asshole. So clean that one could eat out of it and one that smells like roses.

Also, any cock that I'd suck would be attached to a pretty feminine looking shemale.

I'm not into dudes, mofo.

But even if I were into hairy-legged dudes it STILL wouldn't make your pedophilia right, asshole!!!

Dudes are dudes are dudes whatever perfume you put on their cocks or arseholes. And yes I will admit to being a paedophile because when I was 5 years old I played "doctors and nurses" with my 6 year-old girl friend and we touched each other's ass. Does that make you feel better? So now will you have the decency to come out and admit you're homosexual or will you continue with the claim that "they may be men but, because they don't have hair on their bodies, when I shut my eyes they are like women.....with big stiff cocks!!!!"

You are a pervert, always have been a pervert and always will be a pervert.

We may write stories about teenage girls and boys but we have sex with the other gender of our own age whereas you want sex with barely legitimate males while pretending they are women. I know who I'd rather be. When I put my hand up a woman's skirt I don't want to find a stiffy.

Perfume or not, shaved or hairy, you're still a homosexual and I would not leave a child in your care.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

Dudes are dudes are dudes whatever perfume you put on their cocks or arseholes. And yes I will admit to being a paedophile because when I was 5 years old I played "doctors and nurses" with my 6 year-old girl friend and we touched each other's ass. Does that make you feel better? So now will you have the decency to come out and admit you're homosexual or will you continue with the claim that "they may be men but, because they don't have hair on their bodies, when I shut my eyes they are like women.....with big stiff cocks!!!!"

You are a pervert, always have been a pervert and always will be a pervert.

We may write stories about teenage girls and boys but we have sex with the other gender of our own age whereas you want sex with barely legitimate males while pretending they are women. I know who I'd rather be. When I put my hand up a woman's skirt I don't want to find a stiffy.

Perfume or not, shaved or hairy, you're still a homosexual and I would not leave a child in your care.

You are a worthless human being.

I've never fucked a dude in the ass. Nor have I ever been fucked in the ass by a dude. My shemale fantasies are just that...fantasies. And that's all that they're going to be. I pretend that shemales are a magical third sex. In real life I know that they're just dudes and that what I'm seeing in shemale porn is pure fantasy and bullshit.

I'll NEVER be with a tranny in real life, asswipe. I'd see the Adam's apple and the man hands (things which no amount of estrogen can fix)...and I would know that it's just a dude. I could not bring myself to have actual sex with a dude...no matter how feminine he looked.

There. Are you satisfied, idiot?

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

You are a worthless human being.

I've never fucked a dude in the ass. Nor have I ever been fucked in the ass by a dude. My shemale fantasies are just that...fantasies. And that's all that they're going to be. I pretend that shemales are a magical third sex. In real life I know that they're just dudes and that what I'm seeing in shemale porn is pure fantasy and bullshit.

I'll NEVER be with a tranny in real life, asswipe. I'd see the Adam's apple and the man hands (things which no amount of estrogen can fix)...and I would know that it's just a dude. I could not bring myself to have actual sex with a dude...no matter how feminine he looked.

There. Are you satisfied, idiot?

And the big difference between you and the writers on this site that you call "pedos" is that we don't download photos or videos of our "fantasies". We write stories about two fictitious human beings who are trying to find love. Not your filthy homosexual, shit-shoving fantasies.

FUCK OFF BACK TO THE PICS AND VIDEO FORUM WHERE YOU BELONG!!!

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

And the big difference between you and the writers on this site that you call "pedos" is that we don't download photos or videos of our "fantasies". We write stories about two fictitious human beings who are trying to find love. Not your filthy homosexual, shit-shoving fantasies.

FUCK OFF BACK TO THE PICS AND VIDEO FORUM WHERE YOU BELONG!!!

Congrats, motherfucker. I've never put anyone on any Ignore List. Until now.

ALL YOU SORRY PEDOS CAN GO TO HELL!!!

[Wee Hector]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Congrats, motherfucker. I've never put anyone on any Ignore List. Until now.

ALL YOU SORRY PEDOS CAN GO TO HELL!!!

Great to know that I can now tell everyone I took JoeDirty's virginity. Right up his rose-scented arsehole!!!

[wantsomefun]

Originally Posted by ELaken-Palmer

This is not about JoeDirty.

I'm glad someone else sees that!

Originally Posted by Wee Hector

Fortunately it doesn't work like that. The mods have to,and do, work to strict rules. If a story infringes the rules then it it is removed. The fact that Clarise's stories have been removed simply proves what a remarkable job the mods are doing. Even though I totally disapprove of the reporting of Clarise's stories and would prefer that the reporter be banned it proves that we are all equals.

Yeah ... if the whole thing was done for revenge, or out of jealousy, or to prove a point, it's pretty damn low.

Am I upset that the stories are gone? Frankly, I probably would have read them, even knowing how difficult some of Clarise's writing is (sorry, but it's true, missie), although, having heard the theme of the stories, I probably would have clicked away.

Clicked away. I don't read child molestation stories for shits and giggles, or to help Mrs. Fist and her five horny daughters. Even when they're written by a genius. There are other things I prefer.

Clicked away. Not reported.

Clicked away. Not gotten myself into a self-righteous, witch-hunting frenzy.

Clicked away.

Why can't we all just do that?

[Daddycums]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Some of the things that you responded to weren't directed at you. I save my wrath for assholes like the one that I was responding to.

I was responding to your responses to me. And you did call me a dumbass, after all.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

It isn't just my own experience though. There have been studies, etc. over the years which back up what I've said about how porn actually increases sexual desires and makes a person think about it more rather than less.

I'm talking about doing, not thinking. I'm not going to explain myself again, though; I'm tired of dealing with people who heatedly argue that I'm wrong without really attempting to challenge my opinion. Too bad; I want my opinion challenged. I want to be proven wrong once in a while so that I can change my world view so that it's grounded in logic and facts instead of just stubbornness. But instead I get people arguing a position that is only tangentially related.