Clearly There's A Way Around The "No Pedo Stories" Rule

[JoeDirty]

The troll EL-P's pedo story against me is proof of that.

Just write a clearly pedo story but don't mention the actual age of the child.

BTW while I'm at it...

Can't sick fuck pedo writers at least write realistic sick fuck pedo stories? Sorry but I don't think that IRL prepubescent girls could ever undergo things that even 35 year old prostitutes have trouble undergoing.

[ahorsewithnoname]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

The troll

That is the definitive case of the pot calling the kettle black.

If there ever was a troll, Joe, you are the epitome. With you, nothing is grey, only black and white. And I'm not referring to just this one issue. You are constantly on the attack. You could never have a civilized conversation. I cannot imagine interacting with someone like you in person. It would be a horrid experience. You see your way, and no other way.

You are the archetype, the personification of intolerance. I could understand you living with yourself, but never could I understand you living with others, or even having friends.

I pity you.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by ahorsewithnoname

That is the definitive case of the pot calling the kettle black.

If there ever was a troll, Joe, you are the epitome. With you, nothing is grey, only black and white. And I'm not referring to just this one issue. You are constantly on the attack. You could never have a civilized conversation. I cannot imagine interacting with someone like you in person. It would be a horrid experience. You see your way, and no other way.

You are the archetype, the personification of intolerance. I could understand you living with yourself, but never could I understand you living with others, or even having friends.

I pity you.

The definition of "troll" ISN'T "one who is intolerant or has strong opinions."

By definition a "troll" posts inflammatory posts merely to get a rise out of someone. A "troll" doesn't actually believe the shit that he is saying. He's just saying it to hurt people...or to piss them off.

EL-P is---by definition---a troll. He shit posted the same post in a number of threads saying that I wanted to molest my own nieces and nephews. He KNEW that what he was saying was FICTION, a LIE. He only posted it to hurt me.

OTOH I've NEVER accused anyone of being a PRACTICING PEDO. I only stated the obvious truth that to seek out and jerk off to pedo stories meant that one has a sexual attraction to children and that such an attraction is considered to be sick fuckery by normal people.

Also...

You seem to have a very strong opinion and are intolerant of me and my view. Are YOU therefore a troll?

[ahorsewithnoname]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

By definition a "troll" posts inflammatory posts merely to get a rise out of someone. A "troll" doesn't actually believe the shit that he is saying. He's just saying it to hurt people...or to piss them off.

Troll: an internet term for a person who, through willful action, attempts to disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through provocative messages.

There's no reference to "belief". That's just you adding that in there for your own benefit.

You are a troll. It's okay to admit it, Joe. That's the first step in getting treatment and recovering.

If you don't believe me, put up a poll and ask people to vote on whether they think you are a troll or not.

[ahorsewithnoname]

Here's an example, Joe, of your troll behavior:

You posted this in another thread.

I would NEVER plagiarize the stories here for three reasons....

1. It is dishonest.

2. It is wrong.

3. It would make people think that I can't write and am a sick fuck.

No one believes this, because no one believes that you can write better than the authors here. So it was posted simply to get a rise out of someone, and to be hurtful. You see, if you were such a good writer, you'd write a story and win a contest. But, you're simply all talk and no action.

In other words, a troll.

[Aa7777]

Would you two both shut up.

[christina2706]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

The troll EL-P's pedo story against me is proof of that.

I don't really want to read the story in question (plus the title isn't given) but can you please explain how it is "against" you? I'm curious.

[ahorsewithnoname]

Originally Posted by Aa7777

Would you two both shut up.

Hey, punk ass kid, go back to Personals and find a jerk off buddy.

[Cheltenham]

Originally Posted by christina2706

I don't really want to read the story in question (plus the title isn't given) but can you please explain how it is "against" you? I'm curious.

It mentions him by user name. That's the extent of the damage. There isn't a 'personal' attack on him, it is just a character assassination. It is based upon the image he projects (or is perceived to) on this forum.

[christina2706]

Originally Posted by Cheltenham

It mentions him by user name. That's the extent of the damage. There isn't a 'personal' attack on him, it is just a character assassination. It is based upon the image he projects (or is perceived to) on this forum.

Interesting. Thanks for filling me in.

[ELaken-Palmer]

Originally Posted by christina2706

Interesting. Thanks for filling me in.

Here's a link... http://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=294581

[Dizzyworks673]

This whole thread just proves my point that Joe just likes to see himself talk. How many threads has he started saying basically the same thing. Joe just let it go already and stop filling up the forum with this conflict. Be the better man you claim to be and put this to rest as this argument has gone on long enough and is no closer to being resolved.

[JoeDirty]

This forum is guilty of inconsistency and favoritism. The "no pedo stories rule" is a sham. Posters like EL-P get away with breaking it...while truth-tellers are accused of being trolls.

Right, Ejls?...

Originally Posted by ejls

There is nothing wrong with underage stories or stories about coming of age. It is the pedophile acts that are wrong.

We can write and read about 13 yr olds discovering. We cannot write about the 30 yr old hot teacher and his 14 yr old sex interest.

[JoeDirty]

Oh...and one more thing...




...to the asswipes here who attack me and call me a "troll" for simply expressing my views...





...all the while defending and supporting a true troll and POS named EL-P...





ES&D.

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[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

This forum is guilty of inconsistency and favoritism. The "no pedo stories rule" is a sham. Posters like EL-P get away with breaking it...while truth-tellers are accused of being trolls.

Right, Ejls?...

Look Joe you claim there is favoritism and inconsistencies but between you and Elp I would say that he is the one who has remained constant. You on the other hand talk about how evil everyone is for posting pedo stories, but you have your facts wrong in the first place.

There is a difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia. Pedophilia is when a person engages in sexual activity with someone before puberty and under the age of concent. Ephebophilia is what most of us write about on this site which covers girls after puberty in their early teens. Check out the link I provided at the bottom and read the difference there.

The inconsistencies I speak of with you are the fact that you claim that everyone is some sort of sicko pervert for writing about girls in thier teens but at the same time you have the nerve to post a link to girls who look like their twelve. WTF Joe? I realize because i'm not a complete moron that you wouldn't post them if the girls weren't 18 but not everyone looking at them will get that. To some all they see is a girl that looks twelve.

You can hop on your moral high horse and ride it into town Joe, you can't have it both ways, you can't claim that everyone is sick for looking at young girls and then post pics of what looks like young girls, that's inconsistant!

Next you call everyone else trolls but you don't read the stories and you don't write, so what give you so much insite to anything? You said on another thread where you were crying about the same crap that you were done at 5000 posts and yet here you are crying again about being wronged, that just proves to me that you like to see yourself talk and you can't stop yourself. That's inconsistant. You could've stopped this whole battle there but here we are on another damn thread.

Enough is enough let the whole thing drop, or learn enough about what your talking about otherwise you look like a complete idiot. Stop trying to troll your way through each thread and make it all about you and get on with your life.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...z2qLIJ3tcRJdcQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...Dr7fDxWZEY_lXA

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...6mhcGYSO8lTjzw

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

Look Joe you claim there is favoritism and inconsistencies but between you and Elp I would say that he is the one who has remained constant. You on the other hand talk about how evil everyone is for posting pedo stories, but you have your facts wrong in the first place.

There is a difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia. Pedophilia is when a person engages in sexual activity with someone before puberty and under the age of concent. Ephebophilia is what most of us write about on this site which covers girls after puberty in their early teens. Check out the link I provided at the bottom and read the difference there.

The inconsistencies I speak of with you are the fact that you claim that everyone is some sort of sicko pervert for writing about girls in thier teens but at the same time you have the nerve to post a link to girls who look like their twelve. WTF Joe? I realize because i'm not a complete moron that you wouldn't post them if the girls weren't 18 but not everyone looking at them will get that. To some all they see is a girl that looks twelve.

You can hop on your moral high horse and ride it into town Joe, you can't have it both ways, you can't claim that everyone is sick for looking at young girls and then post pics of what looks like young girls, that's inconsistant!

Next you call everyone else trolls but you don't read the stories and you don't write, so what give you so much insite to anything? You said on another thread where you were crying about the same crap that you were done at 5000 posts and yet here you are crying again about being wronged, that just proves to me that you like to see yourself talk and you can't stop yourself. That's inconsistant. You could've stopped this whole battle there but here we are on another damn thread.

Enough is enough let the whole thing drop, or learn enough about what your talking about otherwise you look like a complete idiot. Stop trying to troll your way through each thread and make it all about you and get on with your life.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...z2qLIJ3tcRJdcQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...Dr7fDxWZEY_lXA

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...6mhcGYSO8lTjzw

Pedo = prepubescent...haven't reached puberty. I get it, bonehead.

Did you not check out my fucking Wikipedia link? According to that link a 13 year old boy could be classified as prepubescent. According to both Wikipedia AND Ejls (when she's not upholding EL-P) the story that EL-P posted is pedo. According to the "no pedo stories rule" it should therefore be removed.

Regarding my Mr. Hansen thread...

There's a BIG ASS DIFFERENCE between 18+ year old girls who LOOK 12 and girls who ARE 12.

[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Regarding my Mr. Hansen thread...

There's a BIG ASS DIFFERENCE between 18+ year old girls who LOOK 12 and girls WHO ARE 12.

Nice try Joe but there is no difference between being attracted to a twelve year old girl or legal girls who look twelve either way you prefer girls who look twelve and your a hypocrite. It's ok to admit to yourself you like young girls, it's acting on it that is wrong.

There was a scientific study done where 25 guys were tested with pics of girls all over the age of 18 but were told most were under age. All the men said that they were not attracted to the girls but were found to be lying. It was because they were trying not to admit they found them attractive. Basically the point of the test was to prove that the brain can't tell the difference in pictures how old a girl is after puberty, and it isn't wrong to like them as long as you know how to behave.

Posting pictures of girls who look twelve and not having posted ages makes you look like your posting pics of underage girls. You can try to defend yourself anyway you want but your more inconsistant than anyone I've ever met. You can't have it both ways your either attracted to girls who look twelve or your not, I believe you are Joe and the proof of it is the fact you have a link to them. Sorry but it's your link.

As far as your pedo argument of the 13 year old in Elp's story your streaching the term to fit your own losing arguement, just give up already and stop this whole thing Joe! I found your points of view interesting when I first signed up on this site but now all we see is you crying over this same point thread after thread, be the bigger man and just stop all this before no one wants to talk to you anymore.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

Nice try Joe but there is no difference between being attracted to a twelve year old girl or legal girls who look twelve either way you prefer girls who look twelve and your a hypocrite. It's ok to admit to yourself you like young girls, it's acting on it that is wrong.

There was a scientific study done where 25 guys were tested with pics of girls all over the age of 18 but were told most were under age. All the men said that they were not attracted to the girls but were found to be lying. It was because they were trying not to admit they found them attractive. Basically the point of the test was to prove that the brain can't tell the difference in pictures how old a girl is after puberty, and it isn't wrong to like them as long as you know how to behave.

Posting pictures of girls who look twelve and not having posted ages makes you look like your posting pics of underage girls. You can try to defend yourself anyway you want but your more inconsistant than anyone I've ever met. You can't have it both ways your either attracted to girls who look twelve or your not, I believe you are Joe and the proof of it is the fact you have a link to them. Sorry but it's your link.

As far as your pedo argument of the 13 year old in Elp's story your streaching the term to fit your own losing arguement, just give up already and stop this whole thing Joe! I found your points of view interesting when I first signed up on this site but now all we see is you crying over this same point thread after thread, be the bigger man and just stop all this before no one wants to talk to you anymore.

Nice try.

But one BIG ASS DIFFERENCE is that I wouldn't go to jail for petting this girl's pussy...

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I'm attracted to PYTs. What normal male isn't?

But what I'm attracted to ISN'T the issue. The issue is the "no pedo stories" rule. The issue is the fact that EL-P's story is a pedo story...according to Wikipedia and Ejls. The issue is the fact that his story hasn't been removed due to favoritism and hypocrisy.

[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Nice try.

But one BIG ASS DIFFERENCE is that I wouldn't go to jail for petting this girl's pussy...

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I'm attracted to PYTs. What normal male isn't?


But what I'm attracted to ISN'T the issue. The issue is the "no pedo stories rule." The issue is the fact that EL-P's story is a pedo story...according to Wikipedia and Ejls. The issue is the fact that his story hasn't been removed due to favoritism and hypocrisy.

You just proved my point! How do I know shes legal? How do you know? But your posting her pic and admit your attracted, she looks 11 Joe.

My 3 links prove Elp's story isn't pedo meaning you don't have a leg to stand on. I ask again just drop it and let this go. Be a better man about it because all of this just makes you look like a eqphebophile.

If I were you I would be really careful posting pics like that unless you know her personally you could go to jail for kiddy pornography. She looks way to young like a small child. Like I said 11 at best.

[young youth]

oh very very hot very very nice pl mail me

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

You just proved my point! How do I know shes legal? How do you know? But your posting her pic and admit your attracted, she looks 11 Joe.

My 3 links prove Elp's story isn't pedo meaning you don't have a leg to stand on. I ask again just drop it and let this go. Be a better man about it because all of this just makes you look like a eqphebophile.

If I were you I would be really careful posting pics like that unless you know her personally you could go to jail for kiddy pornography. She looks way to young like a small child. Like I said 11 at best.

Check out the website (Femjoy) that's on the pic. They're well-known and reliable.

Then go to that website.

Then read the fucking legal notice where they state that all models are 18 or over at the time that they're photographed and that they have the required proof of age on file.

Originally Posted by young youth

oh very very hot very very nice pl mail me

Everything I find that I like I post in my Mr. Hansen thread. Check there. I update it as often as I can.

[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Check out the website (Femjoy) that's on the pic. They're well-known and reliable.

Then go to that website.

Then read the fucking legal notice where they state that all models are 18 or over at the time that they're photographed and that they have the required proof of age on file.



Everything that I find that I like I post in my Mr. Hansen thread. Check there. I update it as often as I can.

Thanks as you again prove my point as you know what sites to troll for little girl looking pics. I would still be careful reposting them as they could be misinterpreted

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

Thanks as you again prove my point as you know what sites to troll for little girl looking pics. I would still be careful reposting them as they could be misinterpreted

Femjoy has pics of all kinds of over 18 girls. Not just "little girl looking" ones.

Also, I don't troll sites looking for "little girl looking pics." I look around. If I find pics that are interesting I download them. They may be pics for my Mr. Hansen thread. Or they may be pics of skinny girls. Or pics of girls with puffy tits. Or hawt shemales. Or... Etc.

Only a moron would misinterpret my pics as being anything that's illegal.

[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Only a moron would misinterpret my pics as being anything that's illegal.

I actually don't disagree with that but the problem is there are a lot of morons out there who would take them wrong. I was just saying be careful.

[ahorsewithnoname]

Only an idiot would believe that a girl cannot get a fake ID. Traci Lords. Only an idiot would believe that the internet doesn't house huge numbers of photos of girls claiming to be 18 when they aren't. Only an idiot would put blind faith in some nameless entity.

Joe is that idiot.

[darthel0101]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

… read the fucking legal notice where they state that all models are 18 or over at the time that they're photographed and that they have the required proof of age on file. …

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

I'll answer with two words....

Traci. Lords.



Next to Ginger Lynn she was IMO the greatest porn star of the 80s.

Those companies keep "legal" documents to cover their own asses, not to prove the truth. BTW - how hard was it for you to get your fake ID to buy your beer last year?

BTW - > horse
Sorry for not getting to your post but I just had to respond to his overwhelming idiocy with his own words.

[Riskykristi1]

Clearly the site "monitors" are hit and miss. I just skimmed two stories about underage sex, and a slew of Bart and Lisa Simson toons. I know that can't oversee every thread, but when they don't respond to direct messages that's different. Frankly, the infighting and name calling on this forum has lead me to search for another forum home, hopefully with more up to date features. I feel this site had been abandoned by its creators and left to its own devices if you will.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by Riskykristi1

Clearly the site "monitors" are hit and miss. I just skimmed two stories about underage sex, and a slew of Bart and Lisa Simson toons. I know that can't oversee every thread, but when they don't respond to direct messages that's different. Frankly, the infighting and name calling on this forum has lead me to search for another forum home, hopefully with more up to date features. I feel this site had been abandoned by its creators and left to its own devices if you will.

Who has been directly contacted and not answered inquiries?

[Cheltenham]

Originally Posted by Riskykristi1

Clearly the site "monitors" are hit and miss. I just skimmed two stories about underage sex, and a slew of Bart and Lisa Simson toons. I know that can't oversee every thread, but when they don't respond to direct messages that's different. Frankly, the infighting and name calling on this forum has lead me to search for another forum home, hopefully with more up to date features. I feel this site had been abandoned by its creators and left to its own devices if you will.

You skimmed two stories but did you report them?

Stories that violate the content restrictions are defined in a stickied thread (above) for this sub-forum. Please read it (thoroughly) and if you find such a story that truly shouldn't be here, feel free to report it.

[ejls]

I read ELP's story and discussed it with smcaaphd. A very long time ago I was asked what was considered pedophilia. As quoted above, coming of age stories were fine. On the last page of "Damaged" ages were stated. The verbiage made it very clear that a boy under the age of 14 was sexually abused by an adult male. The story has been pulled from the forum.

[hornypixy]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Only a moron would misinterpret my pics as being anything that's illegal.

ok, look, i'm sorry. but joe, you're irritating the crap out of me. and possibly everybody else except you mother, onky maybe she's just too polite to let you know. Look, the thing is, you make little to no sense anymore. I read your threads, and i'm trying to figure something out: Is JOe FOR or AGAINST pedo stories and pedos? Because on the one hand you say "pedos are sick fucks" and on the other, "i like girls that look 11 or 12, even if they are really 18." pedos, dear joey boy, are people who are attracted to the images of preteens and younger. the fact that the age on her birt certificate says she's older than 18 doesn't change the fact that you're attracted to a little girl, because on that photo, she's not eighteen or older.that kindof makes you a pedo. if you don't want to admit it even to yourself, stop proving everybody's points. you're kind of turning into the village idiot.

i will never support pedos, but damn, you're just so irritating. like a fly that wont stop buzzing just out of reach. its just bzzzz bzzzzz bzzzz and everywhere i go, there's joe bzzzzzz bzzzz bzzzz'ing around aimlessly. its like you don't know what you want to say but you want to make sure everybody hears you talking. am i too personal? sorry. i almost resisted posting this, but after a brief, two-hour support on a previous thread, i lost all patience with you. Find a point and stick to it. Nobody takes you serious anymore, and its only getting worse.

but yeah, that girl is so not older than eighteen. she's twelve at most. get some help, joe. yoou really need it.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by ahorsewithnoname

Only an idiot would believe that a girl cannot get a fake ID. Traci Lords. Only an idiot would believe that the internet doesn't house huge numbers of photos of girls claiming to be 18 when they aren't. Only an idiot would put blind faith in some nameless entity.

Joe is that idiot.

It was because of Traci Lords that the legal shit is now REQUIRED BY LAW on all porn produced in the US.

Is this next line better than the one that I posted before, asswipe?...

Only a moron would think that I would KNOWINGLY post anything illegal.

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

I actually don't disagree with that but the problem is there are a lot of morons out there who would take them wrong. I was just saying be careful.

I'll be careful.

And speaking of those morons....

Originally Posted by hornypixy

ok, look, i'm sorry. but joe, you're irritating the crap out of me. and possibly everybody else except you mother, onky maybe she's just too polite to let you know. Look, the thing is, you make little to no sense anymore. I read your threads, and i'm trying to figure something out: Is JOe FOR or AGAINST pedo stories and pedos? Because on the one hand you say "pedos are sick fucks" and on the other, "i like girls that look 11 or 12, even if they are really 18." pedos, dear joey boy, are people who are attracted to the images of preteens and younger. the fact that the age on her birt certificate says she's older than 18 doesn't change the fact that you're attracted to a little girl, because on that photo, she's not eighteen or older.that kindof makes you a pedo. if you don't want to admit it even to yourself, stop proving everybody's points. you're kind of turning into the village idiot.

i will never support pedos, but damn, you're just so irritating. like a fly that wont stop buzzing just out of reach. its just bzzzz bzzzzz bzzzz and everywhere i go, there's joe bzzzzzz bzzzz bzzzz'ing around aimlessly. its like you don't know what you want to say but you want to make sure everybody hears you talking. am i too personal? sorry. i almost resisted posting this, but after a brief, two-hour support on a previous thread, i lost all patience with you. Find a point and stick to it. Nobody takes you serious anymore, and its only getting worse.

but yeah, that girl is so not older than eighteen. she's twelve at most. get some help, joe. yoou really need it.

First, I'm NOT attracted to prepubescent children. I'm attracted to postpubescent legal teens who actually look like teens and not grannies.

Second, if you think that this girl actually is less than 18...
1. You haven't actually been outside your parents basement all that much to see what many college age freshmen coeds look like.
2. How many 12 year olds do you know of who not only have pubic hair but also shave it? Hmmmmmm?

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[ejls]

I can't believe I'm answering your last statement, but all of my Italian girlfriends taught their daughters to shave from the first sign of a public hair. You see, it doesn't look right wearing a full bush under a white bathing suit.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by ejls

I can't believe I'm answering your last statement, but all of my Italian girlfriends taught their daughters to shave from the first sign of a public hair. You see, it doesn't look right wearing a full bush under a white bathing suit.

Another poster said that at best she looked 11.

So...

How many 11 year olds do you know of who not only have pubic hair but also shave it...

...AND...

...have nose piercings?

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[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

Another poster said that at best she looked 11.

So...

How many 11 year olds do you know of who not only have pubic hair but also shave it...

...AND...

...have nose piercings?

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The first girl looks so young the pic is almost offensives Joe. Again you prove my point, dispite what the website claims you can't be sure of this girls age unless you personally know her. I find it rediculouse that you have the nerve to critisize people for stories they write and you post pics of girls who look 11 years old. Get off the net you hypocrite.

Maybe if you left your parents basement you would realize most 18 year old girls don't look that way. I'm sick of you seeking validation by saying inflammatory comments all the time. Seek therapy for your issues and stop waisting everyones time.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

The first girl looks so young the pic is almost offensives Joe. Again you prove my point, dispite what the website claims you can't be sure of this girls age unless you personally know her. I find it rediculouse that you have the nerve to critisize people for stories they write and you post pics of girls who look 11 years old. Get off the net you hypocrite.

Maybe if you left your parents basement you would realize most 18 year old girls don't look that way. I'm sick of you seeking validation by saying inflammatory comments all the time. Seek therapy for your issues and stop waisting everyones time.

They're all the same fuckin' girl.

There's NO FUCKIN' WAY that your fucked up logic would work IRL. If the only way that I could be sure that I'm jerking it to a legal teen in porn instead of a Traci Lords (who LOOKED OVER 18, BTW) would be if I "personally knew her" then I could NEVER be sure UNLESS I "personally knew her."



UNLESS I only jerked it to women who looked like this....

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But I STILL couldn't be sure!!! AFAIK she could have a very rare advanced aging disease!!!



And again...for the 34,756,543rd time...

The girls I post ARE all over 18. The girls depicted in the pedo stories AREN'T.

[Dizzyworks673]

Your such a drama queen Joe. You can't properly defend your point so you go to another extream. I would agree with you on pedo stories but most of what I've read on this site are ephebophile stories there's a difference, and I'm so sick of your one note toon that I will never support another one of your arguements again.

I'm to the point that I really don't care how old you claim the girl is she looks way to young to be posting her pic and there are so many liers out there I think your pics should be taken down and you should be banned for posting them.

The point I've been trying to make since last night is that by sight alone you can't tell what age the girl is, all most people would see is an extreamly young girl and your not battling that your supporting it. Get over yourself and admit you like underage girls and stop overcompinsating for your own self loathing and deal with it.

I will say it again there is no difference between finding underage girls attractive and finding legal girls who look underage attractive. They look the same! Again deal with it.

[Lonelyandlost]

I wasn't going to chime in, but it was this comment that made me respond.

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

[CENTER]Another poster said that at best she looked 11.

So...

How many 11 year olds do you know of who not only have pubic hair but also shave it...

...AND...

...have nose piercings?

Actually, I've known several kids under 16 who have nose piercings. It's illegal to have a shop do them in many areas, but that doesn't stop some kids from doing it themselves.

As for shaving themselves, my niece who is about to turn 14 this year felt the need to inform all of us on mothers day, when her Aunt and mother were talking to each other about needing to shave for their swim suits, that she had been shaving down there for a couple of years now. Totally out of the blue. Best part was her mother almost choked on her drink.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

Your such a drama queen Joe. You can't properly defend your point so you go to another extream. I would agree with you on pedo stories but most of what I've read on this site are ephebophile stories there's a difference, and I'm so sick of your one note toon that I will never support another one of your arguements again.

I'm to the point that I really don't care how old you claim the girl is she looks way to young to be posting her pic and there are so many liers out there I think your pics should be taken down and you should be banned for posting them.

The point I've been trying to make since last night is that by sight alone you can't tell what age the girl is, all most people would see is an extreamly young girl and your not battling that your supporting it. Get over yourself and admit you like underage girls and stop overcompinsating for your own self loathing and deal with it.

I will say it again there is no difference between finding underage girls attractive and finding legal girls who look underage attractive. They look the same! Again deal with it.

My understanding is that true pedos (i.e., those who are sexually attracted to prepubescent children) are into prepubescent children...and NOT postpubescent legal teens who may look---or be made to look---younger. Thus their attitude toward the girls that I post would be....

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Also, I've been dealing here with PEDO stories. EL-P's original story was a pedo story. There are MANY pedo stories on the sex stories site. And there are STILL pedo stories to be found here that haven't been removed yet.

Regarding finding underage girls who are past puberty attractive...

What normal male doesn't?

And once again....

There's a BIG ASS DIFFERENCE between LOOKING TOO YOUNG and ACTUALLY BEING TOO YOUNG. Just ask your friendly neighborhood cop.

[Dizzyworks673]

I'm done. There's no point in repeating the same comments over and over again traveling in circles. I can't make a blind man see and I can't change the point of view of a true believer who thinks he is righteous.

I'm sorry you feel the need to cry on or keep spewing the same repetitive broken defence. Ride your high horse into town and play the town drunk if that's what you wish but remember in the end no one likes drunks.

Get out of your basement and go out and expirence the world Joe, its big and bright out there.

[JoeDirty]

Originally Posted by Dizzyworks673

I'm done. There's no point in repeating the same comments over and over again traveling in circles. I can't make a blind man see and I can't change the point of view of a true believer who thinks he is righteous.

I'm sorry you feel the need to cry on or keep spewing the same repetitive broken defence. Ride your high horse into town and play the town drunk if that's what you wish but remember in the end no one likes drunks.

Get out of your basement and go out and expirence the world Joe, its big and bright out there.

If you can't see the difference between my liking young-looking-but-legal teens and someone who gets a boner whenever they think of 8 year old girls then you, Sir, are a fool.

And I pity you.

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[Daddycums]

I never thought I'd come to Joe's defense, but I figure I need to speak my mind. A couple of points:

1. Arguing, calling people names, and generally making an ass of yourself is one thing; that's just par for the course on Internet forums, especially ones that make no pretense of trying to uphold a moral standard.

But writing and posting a story insinuating that one of the members of the community is a child molester is crossing the line. Very poor taste, ELP.

2. Joe does have a point; the rules are inconsistently enforced to the point that it's hard to know what is allowed. The official rule is "no pedo stories" and Ejls has appeared to tacked on a more precise definition. No 13-year-old girls being abused by 30-year-old men. But some of my stories break the rules according to this definition, including one that Ejls herself said was her second favorite of my stories. Why haven't they been removed? Is it because it was all consensual (and in fact, in most cases it was the girls who instigated it)? Is it because of the quality of the writing? (What can I say? I don't believe in false humility) Or is there truly a double standard, and stories from popular authors just don't get taken down?

I'm not asking for the removal of my stories; I'm just pointing out the problem with a poorly defined and inconsistently enforced rule. Where Joe and I disagree is that he wants it to be enforced consistently, while I would rather do away with it altogether.

Anyway, that's just my 3 cents, adjusted for inflation.

[1BadDaddy]

I don't see the difference between someone like JoeDirty who gets turned on by looking at images that are designed to look like childporn versus someone who gets turned on by underage stories.

In both cases there's obviously an attraction to young, underage girls. That's indisputable. However, in both cases, everyone involved in the production of the material is supposedly over 18. Therefore in both cases it is legal and it doesn't involve the exploitation of any actual children.

However, with the kind of porn that JoeDirty likes, there is the possibility that fake I.D.s are used and therefore there is the possibility that he's getting off to actual childporn. This was the case with the childporn that Traci Lords created and that JoeDirty says he watched and enjoyed.

With underage stories, there is no possibility of any laws being broken. Even if there are some sex stories created by underaged persons, it wouldn't be illegal. People under 18 are permitted to write whatever kind of stories they want to, just like adults are.

Therefore, people like JoeDirty, who like to watch images that are designed to look like childporn are far more likely to be engaged in an act that hurts actual children, than are people who read and write underage sex stories. In my opinion, underage sex stories are a far more responsible outlet for people who are sexually attracted to underage girls than are images that are designed to look like childporn.

[JoeDirty]

I just can't let this pile of crap go by unrefuted....

Originally Posted by 1BadDaddy

I don't see the difference between someone like JoeDirty who gets turned on by looking at images that are designed to look like childporn versus someone who gets turned on by underage stories.

In both cases there's obviously an attraction to young, underage girls. That's indisputable. However, in both cases, everyone involved in the production of the material is supposedly over 18. Therefore in both cases it is legal and it doesn't involve the exploitation of any actual children.

However, with the kind of porn that JoeDirty likes, there is the possibility that fake I.D.s are used and therefore there is the possibility that he's getting off to actual childporn. This was the case with the childporn that Traci Lords created and that JoeDirty says he watched and enjoyed.

With underage stories, there is no possibility of any laws being broken. Even if there are some sex stories created by underaged persons, it wouldn't be illegal. People under 18 are permitted to write whatever kind of stories they want to, just like adults are.

Therefore, people like JoeDirty, who like to watch images that are designed to look like childporn are far more likely to be engaged in an act that hurts actual children, than are people who read and write underage sex stories. In my opinion, underage sex stories are a far more responsible outlet for people who are sexually attracted to underage girls than are images that are designed to look like childporn.

Just how the fuck would YOU know what CP really looks like, asswipe???

Based on your own words above it sounds to me like you are saying that you KNOW what it really looks like.



(The rest of your male bovine excrement I've refuted over and over in many threads.)

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That's it. I'm now done forever with the sick fucks here and their defenders.

[Dizzyworks673]

Originally Posted by JoeDirty

I just can't let this pile of crap go by unrefuted....
Just how the fuck would YOU know what CP really looks like, asswipe???

Based on your own words above it sounds to me like you are saying that you KNOW what it really looks like.



(The rest of your male bovine excrement I've refuted over and over in many threads.)

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That's it. I'm now done forever with the sick fucks here and their defenders.

If only we could believe that.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by Daddycums

I never thought I'd come to Joe's defense, but I figure I need to speak my mind. A couple of points:

1. Arguing, calling people names, and generally making an ass of yourself is one thing; that's just par for the course on Internet forums, especially ones that make no pretense of trying to uphold a moral standard.

But writing and posting a story insinuating that one of the members of the community is a child molester is crossing the line. Very poor taste, ELP.

2. Joe does have a point; the rules are inconsistently enforced to the point that it's hard to know what is allowed. The official rule is "no pedo stories" and Ejls has appeared to tacked on a more precise definition. No 13-year-old girls being abused by 30-year-old men. But some of my stories break the rules according to this definition, including one that Ejls herself said was her second favorite of my stories. Why haven't they been removed? Is it because it was all consensual (and in fact, in most cases it was the girls who instigated it)? Is it because of the quality of the writing? (What can I say? I don't believe in false humility) Or is there truly a double standard, and stories from popular authors just don't get taken down?

I'm not asking for the removal of my stories; I'm just pointing out the problem with a poorly defined and inconsistently enforced rule. Where Joe and I disagree is that he wants it to be enforced consistently, while I would rather do away with it altogether.

Anyway, that's just my 3 cents, adjusted for inflation.

In answer to #2, a long time ago I was asked what I considered to be a pedophile act. In not so many words, because it's been quoted to death, coming of age stories are fine, sex between an older adult and a 14 year old is not. This is the guideline for stories here on the forum.

As far as not removing your stories, are they posted here? Because believe it or not, none of the mods has the time to read every post on each and every thread, on this site. If it's reported and found to be in violation, it's removed.

I'm sorry if you believe this is inconsistent, but that is what has been practiced here.

[snowleopard3200]

I've tried to stay out of this matter as much as possible; and only will say this much:

The rules for the site have been established, and as Ejls has stated, the monitors persue any posts that are flagged for their attention, and where needed dealt with in accordance to the sites rules.

Right now this matter has been, from my view, pounded into the ground to the point of coming out on the other side of the world.

What has to be done to get this matter done with and get back to the main purpose of writing great stories of intimacy and having our computers burn out while reading them as well?

[snowleopard3200]

By the way Ejls: I think you and the other moderators have done wonderful work here at the forum. Especially with the stories that had turned out to be plagarized recently.

Hats off to you the Siren of the Sea.

[Daddycums]

Originally Posted by ejls

In answer to #2, a long time ago I was asked what I considered to be a pedophile act. In not so many words, because it's been quoted to death, coming of age stories are fine, sex between an older adult and a 14 year old is not. This is the guideline for stories here on the forum.

As far as not removing your stories, are they posted here? Because believe it or not, none of the mods has the time to read every post on each and every thread, on this site. If it's reported and found to be in violation, it's removed.

I'm sorry if you believe this is inconsistent, but that is what has been practiced here.

Yes, my stories are here on the forum. They are also on the Sex Stories site. Apparently, the only reason they are still up is because no one has reported them.

This bothers me. I understand that your time is limited, and I respect you as an author, moderator, and person. But now I've just discovered that the kind of story I write is not allowed on one of my favorite sites. I tested the "no pedo stories" rule shortly after it came into effect and the story I wrote remained on the site, so I assumed that everything was fine. With all the trolls around here, I figured the first tactic they would use would be to report stories like that, so I thought the fact that my stories are still on the site meant that they had probably been reported but found to be following the rules.

May I also point out that according to your definition, my recently plagiarized story breaks the rules. The plagiarized version was removed, the original was not. That means that someone in an official capacity must have at least looked at the original.

This is exactly why I have a policy against posting stories on a site that has content restrictions. Every single time I've posted on a site like that, I've run into problems because how the rules are enforced is at least as important as the rules themselves. I'm seriously regretting my decision to break my policy in the case of XNXX. As I've said elsewhere, I will not change what I write to conform to a site's rules; I will only use the rules to determine whether I will post my stories on a particular site. And I don't like falling in the "it's okay as long as you don't get caught" category.

Also note that your definition of a pedo story does not appear in the sticky about the age limit. Are we to assume that that means it's just your opinion, or is it truly the standard by which stories will be judged? If so, I suggest you post it in the sticky so that authors like me won't be caught unaware.

Originally Posted by snowleopard3200

I've tried to stay out of this matter as much as possible; and only will say this much:

The rules for the site have been established, and as Ejls has stated, the monitors persue any posts that are flagged for their attention, and where needed dealt with in accordance to the sites rules.

Right now this matter has been, from my view, pounded into the ground to the point of coming out on the other side of the world.

What has to be done to get this matter done with and get back to the main purpose of writing great stories of intimacy and having our computers burn out while reading them as well?

Getting rid of the rule would help.

Okay, okay, I'm half-joking about that. But honestly, the fact that I haven't realized that my stories break the rules means that it hasn't been pounded into the ground enough, at least for some of us.

Originally Posted by snowleopard3200

By the way Ejls: I think you and the other moderators have done wonderful work here at the forum. Especially with the stories that had turned out to be plagarized recently.

Hats off to you the Siren of the Sea.

I absolutely agree. None of what I've said above should be taken as a criticism. I don't expect you to read every story on the site and remove it if it doesn't follow the rules. I think you're already doing a superhuman effort as both a moderator and an author, and I apologize if I sound like I'm criticizing you. My complaint is more about the fact that we have a rule that's impossible to enforce fairly, to the point that it's pretty much meaningless.

Anyway, if I stop uploading stories to XNXX (and maybe even disappear entirely - again) you'll know why.

[ejls]

The guidelines are for the forum only. I don't believe there is anyone monitoring the Sex Stories Site. If the plagiarized story was removed because we made a request to the admin to remove all the stories posted by the thief.

I for one do not have time to read all of the stories on the forum. On a good day, I can knock off 8-10 (like during the CAW reading period). That's why we rely on the reports made by members.