The Real Barack Hussein Obama

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

What an awesome response,,but,,,,,the truth that you see, is not actually the factual truth,, it's very difficult for you leftists to see the big picture.

What did I say here that is not true?

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

In my comment #8 I exposed the lies of Terry Anderson.

Rush Limbaugh has built a career telling his dittoheads lies they want to believe.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1895/

FOX News won a lawsuit protecting its right to lie.

http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/...n-lie-lawsuit/

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

What did I say here that is not true?

What did you say that was relevant?

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

What did you say that was relevant?

The blog that begins this thread is a tissue of lies.

Two sources of Republican information and views are documented liars.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

What did you say that was relevant?

OH c'mon now,,,,THIS IS WHAT THE LEFTISTS DO,,,,,,rattle the cages of anyone that will listen to their irrelevant nonsense, claiming that they need an anti-venom for a mosquito bite.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

OH c'mon now,,,,THIS IS WHAT THE LEFTISTS DO,,,,,,rattle the cages of anyone that will listen to their irrelevant nonsense, claiming that they need an anti-venom for a mosquito bite.

How is it "irrelevant nonsense" for me to point out that Terry Anderson's blog is a list, not of Obama's lies, but his own?

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

OH c'mon now,,,,THIS IS WHAT THE LEFTISTS DO,,,,,,rattle the cages of anyone that will listen to their irrelevant nonsense, claiming that they need an anti-venom for a mosquito bite.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

How is it "irrelevant nonsense" for me to point out that Terry Anderson's blog is a list, not of Obama's lies, but his own?

Who cares about who lied and who didn't other than you irrelevant emotional leftists,, I care about what Obama has done, and he has not fulfilled his leadership obligations to the people that need jobs.

OBAMA IS A FAILURE FOR THIS NATION,,,OBAMA IS NOT A LEADER,,Obama is a circus clown.

[cheta2]

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

Who cares about who lied and who didn't other than you irrelevant emotional leftists,, I care about what Obama has done, and he has not fulfilled his leadership obligations to the people that need jobs.

OBAMA IS A FAILURE FOR THIS NATION,,,OBAMA IS NOT A LEADER,,Obama is a circus clown.

Republicans in Congress have interfered with every policy that may have reduced the unemployment rate.

[Tommiecd]

After further review this poster known as Distant Lover appears to be a devout practicing Christian. Is this a fact? It is unusual for far leftists to be Christian. However I believe Distant Lover is a true believer. Christians are good citizens.

[Lord_Coghill]

I cant stand him and think he is a disgusting excuse for a person and the worst president since Abe Lincoln. I wish Ron Paul had a chance.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by Lord_Coghill

I cant stand him and think he is a disgusting excuse for a person and the worst president since Abe Lincoln. I wish Ron Paul had a chance.

It seems like you regret the end of slavery.

[ridgerunner]

dl
1 the emancipation proclimation actualy had no bearing on the cecceded states if you read it

because at the time it was placed into law the south was not in america
and it was aimed only at the southern states
last i knew there is no legaly defined "southern states"
therefore the law cannot apply

and do not even start me on the causes for the civil war because i prommise you it was not slavery

[Tommiecd]

A man like Ron Paul will never be elected. The people that run this country have invested billions if not trillions of dollars in propaganda to insure that never happens. Even if by some miracle someone like Ron Paul were elected, he or she would be assassinated in their first year.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by ridgerunner

dl
1 the emancipation proclimation actualy had no bearing on the cecceded states if you read it

because at the time it was placed into law the south was not in america
and it was aimed only at the southern states
last i knew there is no legaly defined "southern states"
therefore the law cannot apply

and do not even start me on the causes for the civil war because i prommise you it was not slavery

Slavery was the main issue. Tariffs were a secondary issue.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by Tommiecd

A man like Ron Paul will never be elected. The people that run this country have invested billions if not trillions of dollars in propaganda to insure that never happens. Even if by some miracle someone like Ron Paul were elected, he or she would be assassinated in their first year.

Ron Paul's support for laissez faire capitalism is reasonably congenial to those who own and run the United States.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Republicans in Congress have interfered with every policy that may have reduced the unemployment rate.

OK,, why dont you show me that,,show me where it is, something, that would prove your very assumption,,you have all day.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

OK,, why dont you show me that,,show me where it is, something, that would prove your very assumption,,you have all day.

Republicans want to cut government spending and employment. The last time one can possibly say this reduced unemployment was the 1920s. From 1920 to 1928 unemployment declined by one percent.

When President Roosevelt cut government spending in 1937 unemployment increased from 16.9 percent in 1936 to 19.0 percent in 1938.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html

[Lord_Coghill]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

It seems like you regret the end of slavery.

Not in the slightest and that is a completely absurd and ignorant statement.
Lincoln did NOT free the slaves. The 13th Amendment, which was passed after his death, did that.

Depending on your point of view, if you feel the Southern Confederacy was an illegitimate nation, then Lincoln invaded his own country resulting in over 600,000 deaths to force his will upon others. If you believe it was a legitimate nation then he invaded a legal, and separate nation, using the US Armed forces illegally, accomplishing the same ends as aforementioned.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Republicans want to cut government spending and employment. The last time one can possibly say this reduced unemployment was the 1920s. From 1920 to 1928 unemployment declined by one percent.

When President Roosevelt cut government spending in 1937 unemployment increased from 16.9 percent in 1936 to 19.0 percent in 1938.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html

This is nowhere close to a reasonable set of answers to my specific question to you, you said;

Originally Posted by Distant Lover
Republicans in Congress have interfered with every policy that may have reduced the unemployment rate.

You need to start with the ''POLICIES'' that the republicans have interfered with, and how those specific policies have a ''projected'' jobs increase.

TICK TOCK,,TICK TOCK....Times a wasting..........

[Lord_Coghill]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Slavery was the main issue. Tariffs were a secondary issue.

For being a proclaimed master of facts, you have none. It was all about Tariffs. Lincoln himself stated, when asked why he would not simply allow the South to be a separate nation: "Where would we generate our revenue?". Many units in the US Federal Army mutinied when the propaganda machine started spewing out "The war to end slavery" garbage. Despite some 3,000 slaves remaining in slavery right under Lincolns nose long after the Emancipation Proc.

Face the real facts Mr. Master of Facts. "To free the slaves!" has a much better ring to it than "Because we said so!"

Lets not forget his unconstitutional income tax or his suspension of the Writ of Habeus Corpus. Do I really need to bring out his 1858 speech where he openly declares himself a racist? The guy was a pig and killed thousands of innocents in a war that should never have happened.

[Lord_Coghill]

Originally Posted by Tommiecd

A man like Ron Paul will never be elected. The people that run this country have invested billions if not trillions of dollars in propaganda to insure that never happens. Even if by some miracle someone like Ron Paul were elected, he or she would be assassinated in their first year.

Regrettably, I am inclined to agree with you. But I sure do wish it would happen and there would be no assassination attempt. No need to tell me what to do with the other hand, I already know.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by Lord_Coghill

For being a proclaimed master of facts, you have none. It was all about Tariffs.

The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." ...

The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically...

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/l...cumentprint=76

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One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war.

- Abraham Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address
http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres32.html

[Tommiecd]

You and me both. We would once again be the most admired nation on earth.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by Tommiecd

You and me both. We would once again be the most admired nation on earth.

Because we elected a proponent of laissez faire capitalism? That economic system has been rejected by every democracy in the world.

[BigTrobbing]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

In my comment #8 I exposed the lies of Terry Anderson.

Rush Limbaugh has built a career telling his dittoheads lies they want to believe.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1895/

FOX News won a lawsuit protecting its right to lie.

http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/...n-lie-lawsuit/

DL I looked up who owns the website Fair.org and guess what???? It is yet another liberal progressive web site. So I take that along with stumblers references as SHIT. Sorry.

[BigTrobbing]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Republicans in Congress have interfered with every policy that may have reduced the unemployment rate.

The old coot harry ried has yet to bring any bill from the house to the floor of the senate.

And lets not forget obumbnuts will be the first president NOT to sign a budget in 4 years and that is also thanks to the old coot.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by BigTrobbing

DL I looked up who owns the website Fair.org and guess what???? It is yet another liberal progressive web site. So I take that along with stumblers references as SHIT. Sorry.

God dammit,,,I knew it,, I fucking knew it,,,,,that fucking George Soros has a far reaching wallet, but lets worry about Romney's tax records,,,,,FUCKING LEFTISTS..

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Because we elected a proponent of laissez faire capitalism? That economic system has been rejected by every democracy in the world.

DL... where's my answers????

TICK TOCK,,,,TICK TOCK........

[AZRIEL]

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[ace's n 8's]

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[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by BigTrobbing

DL I looked up who owns the website Fair.org and guess what???? It is yet another liberal progressive web site. So I take that along with stumblers references as SHIT. Sorry.

Every one of Limbaugh's lies is documented.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

DL... where's my answers????

TICK TOCK,,,,TICK TOCK........

#68.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by BigTrobbing

The old coot harry ried has yet to bring any bill from the house to the floor of the senate.

And lets not forget obumbnuts will be the first president NOT to sign a budget in 4 years and that is also thanks to the old coot.

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You are not retired at the age of 49 on a pension you earned and on money you saved. You are on permanent disability. Now I am not complaining about that. It is not your fault that you became unemployable. Bleep happens.

Nevertheless, permanent disability programs exist because of the liberals you hate. They are threatened by Paul Ryan's plans to substantially cut government spending.

You ought to think about that when voting this November.

[spjames]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

God dammit,,,I knew it,, I fucking knew it,,,,,that fucking George Soros has a far reaching wallet, but lets worry about Romney's tax records,,,,,FUCKING LEFTISTS..

OH NO it's Sooorrrrrooooosssss. The rights boogie man. The billionaire who used the free market to make his money and used his fortune to help eastern European countries throw off the yoke of communism and dictatorships. A man the right should hold up as a shining example of a capitalist. Glenn Beck has poisoned your brain and you refuse to admit it. Fucking conservitards.

[69SUPERBADXXX]

Obama is like a malteaser, black. But
White in the middle.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by 69SUPERBADXXX

Obama is like a malteaser, black. But
White in the middle.

Another word for that is Oreo.

Nevertheless, Republican teabaggers think he is a black Marxist revolutionary.

[spjames]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Another word for that is Oreo.

Nevertheless, Republican teabaggers think he is a black Marxist revolutionary.

You forgot socialist secret muzlin nazi.

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by spjames

OH NO it's Sooorrrrrooooosssss. The rights boogie man. The billionaire who used the free market to make his money and used his fortune to help eastern European countries throw off the yoke of communism and dictatorships. A man the right should hold up as a shining example of a capitalist. Glenn Beck has poisoned your brain and you refuse to admit it. Fucking conservitards.

1992 George Soros would find himself a major player in the United Kingdom's Black Wednesday debauchery - he profited one BILLION US dollars by short selling the entire nation of England..
http://wesmantoddshaw.hubpages.com/h...Life-And-Deeds

This is just a little bit of his blood money fortune....

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by spjames

OH NO it's Sooorrrrrooooosssss. The rights boogie man. The billionaire who used the free market to make his money and used his fortune to help eastern European countries throw off the yoke of communism and dictatorships. A man the right should hold up as a shining example of a capitalist. Glenn Beck has poisoned your brain and you refuse to admit it. Fucking conservitards.

George Soros - Financial Vulture And Anti Semitism.

"[N]obody who has read a business magazine in the last few years can be unaware that these days there really are investors who not only move money in anticipation of a currency crisis, but actually do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit. These new actors on the scene do not yet have a standard name; my proposed term is 'Soroi'. - Paul Krugman
Not to let anything past him, George Soros would continue on pummelling global financial markets like a vulture picking at bones. The 1997 Asian Financial Crisis was next, and from Asia complaints about Soros dived into Anti Semitism
"It is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge." - Mahathir bin Mohamad then the Prime Minister of Malaysia.
George Soros, however, was never one to be overly concerned with perceived Anti Semitism, or Anti Semitism in fact. In his book The New Paradigm for Financial Markets - George Soros seemed a financial prophet that got his profit. Somewhat humble, George Soros had the following to say about his profound wealth:
[I]"I'm only rich because I know when I'm wrong... I basically have survived by recognizing my mistakes. I very often used to get backaches due to the fact that I was wrong. Whenever you are wrong you have to fight or [take] flight. When make the decision, the backache goes away"


George Soros Billionaire Felon

See all 6 photos


Source: http://lh6.ggpht.com/-NFa5sdKOZiM/T3MPlOdOZ7I/AAAA...





George Soros - International Financial Criminal

• Soros Loses Challenge to Insider Trading Conviction - NYTimes.com
  A European court rules that France's insider trading laws were sufficiently clear to hold George Soros criminally responsible for buying and selling shares of Société Générale in 1988 with the knowledge the bank mi

George Soros - New World Order Financier, and Global Criminal.

There can be no doubt about it - George Soros is a criminal. He's been convicted of insider trading, and has damaged countless more lives with that than the average crack addict has. The average crack addict, however, goes to prison, and never again has even the slightest opportunity to provide himself or his family with the most meagre of incomes. It truly pays to be a wealthy criminal, and George Soros knows this quite well.
For the record - I don't care who you are, you too are a criminal. The only persons in this world that aren't criminals are the persons without the intelligence to commit a crime. Every cop is a criminal, and every saint is a sinner - that is just how it goes, and if you dispute this notion, kindly hit the back space button, you angry criminal!
Suffice it to say George Soros was convicted of insider trading in 2002. The highest human rights court in all of Europe convicted Soros of insider trading in connection to his pocketing of three million in shares from the French bank Société Générale.

http://wesmantoddshaw.hubpages.com/h...Life-And-Deeds

[spjames]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

1992 George Soros would find himself a major player in the United Kingdom's Black Wednesday debauchery - he profited one BILLION US dollars by short selling the entire nation of England..
http://wesmantoddshaw.hubpages.com/h...Life-And-Deeds

This is just a little bit of his blood money fortune....

You call him a criminal because he follows standard currency investment practices and is just better at it than others. But you don't hate the guy because of that. You hate him because he contributes to liberal causes.
There are plenty of US millionaires and billionaires right now that want to raise taxes on the poorest of the US population yet you righties see no wrong in that. Want to take away an chance for them to get better medical care. Is there wrong in that? You damn well bet there is. Ask Paul Ryan it's part of his plan.

The Conservative ethos... Fuck you I've got mine.

[stumbler]

Originally Posted by spjames

You call him a criminal because he follows standard currency investment practices and is just better at it than others. But you don't hate the guy because of that. You hate him because he contributes to liberal causes.
There are plenty of US millionaires and billionaires right now that want to raise taxes on the poorest of the US population yet you righties see no wrong in that. Want to take away an chance for them to get better medical care. Is there wrong in that? You damn well bet there is. Ask Paul Ryan it's part of his plan.

The Conservative ethos... Fuck you I've got mine.

I just have to laugh at that every time. On the left we have George Soros contributing to liberal causes.

While on the other side we have the Koch Brothers, several other conservative billionaires, the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, and the American Legislative Exchange council all promoting the lie of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this nation.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

#68.

That is very unacceptable,,if you want to hang your hat on the leftists muddle, you can do that,,by no means is it acceptable for you to use that as an answer to the specific question that I asked you,, if you do want to use it,,,,then you are a simple minded blind foolish clown.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by spjames

OH NO it's Sooorrrrrooooosssss. The rights boogie man. The billionaire who used the free market to make his money and used his fortune to help eastern European countries throw off the yoke of communism and dictatorships. A man the right should hold up as a shining example of a capitalist. Glenn Beck has poisoned your brain and you refuse to admit it. Fucking conservitards.

[spjames]

Originally Posted by CS natureboy

George Soros - Financial Vulture And Anti Semitism.

"[N]obody who has read a business magazine in the last few years can be unaware that these days there really are investors who not only move money in anticipation of a currency crisis, but actually do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit. These new actors on the scene do not yet have a standard name; my proposed term is 'Soroi'. - Paul Krugman
Not to let anything past him, George Soros would continue on pummelling global financial markets like a vulture picking at bones. The 1997 Asian Financial Crisis was next, and from Asia complaints about Soros dived into Anti Semitism
"It is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge." - Mahathir bin Mohamad then the Prime Minister of Malaysia.
George Soros, however, was never one to be overly concerned with perceived Anti Semitism, or Anti Semitism in fact. In his book The New Paradigm for Financial Markets - George Soros seemed a financial prophet that got his profit. Somewhat humble, George Soros had the following to say about his profound wealth:
[I]"I'm only rich because I know when I'm wrong... I basically have survived by recognizing my mistakes. I very often used to get backaches due to the fact that I was wrong. Whenever you are wrong you have to fight or [take] flight. When make the decision, the backache goes away"


George Soros Billionaire Felon

See all 6 photos


Source: http://lh6.ggpht.com/-NFa5sdKOZiM/T3MPlOdOZ7I/AAAA...





George Soros - International Financial Criminal

• Soros Loses Challenge to Insider Trading Conviction - NYTimes.com
  A European court rules that France's insider trading laws were sufficiently clear to hold George Soros criminally responsible for buying and selling shares of Société Générale in 1988 with the knowledge the bank mi

George Soros - New World Order Financier, and Global Criminal.

There can be no doubt about it - George Soros is a criminal. He's been convicted of insider trading, and has damaged countless more lives with that than the average crack addict has. The average crack addict, however, goes to prison, and never again has even the slightest opportunity to provide himself or his family with the most meagre of incomes. It truly pays to be a wealthy criminal, and George Soros knows this quite well.
For the record - I don't care who you are, you too are a criminal. The only persons in this world that aren't criminals are the persons without the intelligence to commit a crime. Every cop is a criminal, and every saint is a sinner - that is just how it goes, and if you dispute this notion, kindly hit the back space button, you angry criminal!
Suffice it to say George Soros was convicted of insider trading in 2002. The highest human rights court in all of Europe convicted Soros of insider trading in connection to his pocketing of three million in shares from the French bank Société Générale.

http://wesmantoddshaw.hubpages.com/h...Life-And-Deeds

And yet we don't want to talk about Mitt's supposed tax dodging by hiding money in a Swiss bank. Or that fact that he financed a company that provided services to abortion clinics. Or the fact that he won't release his tax returns to prove he wasn't a tax dodger. Or the fact that he signed off on the purchase and creation of companies that shipped American jobs offshore. Or the fact that he dodged the draft via a religious vacation in France. Or the fact that he vets his VP by asking for their tax returns for 7 years yet won't release his own. I won't even get into what the Koch brothers are doing and their your boys too.

Yeah Yeah I know it's a hey look over here post but you conservatives do it so often I thought I'd just join the party.

[thikdik]

Originally Posted by spjames

And yet we don't want to talk about Mitt's supposed tax dodging by hiding money in a Swiss bank. Or that fact that he financed a company that provided services to abortion clinics. Or the fact that he won't release his tax returns to prove he wasn't a tax dodger. Or the fact that he signed off on the purchase and creation of companies that shipped American jobs offshore. Or the fact that he dodged the draft via a religious vacation in France. Or the fact that he vets his VP by asking for their tax returns for 7 years yet won't release his own. I won't even get into what the Koch brothers are doing and their your boys too.

Yeah Yeah I know it's a hey look over here post but you conservatives do it so often I thought I'd just join the party.

Another tax truther. worry about what Obama is doing!!!

[spjames]

Originally Posted by thikdik

Another tax truther. worry about what Obama is doing!!!

I don't have to worry about Obama I know what he's doing. It's the shifty lying Republicans I'm worried about.

[ace's n 8's]

Originally Posted by spjames

And yet we don't want to talk about Mitt's supposed tax dodging by hiding money in a Swiss bank. Or that fact that he financed a company that provided services to abortion clinics. Or the fact that he won't release his tax returns to prove he wasn't a tax dodger. Or the fact that he signed off on the purchase and creation of companies that shipped American jobs offshore. Or the fact that he dodged the draft via a religious vacation in France. Or the fact that he vets his VP by asking for their tax returns for 7 years yet won't release his own. I won't even get into what the Koch brothers are doing and their your boys too.

Yeah Yeah I know it's a hey look over here post but you conservatives do it so often I thought I'd just join the party.

Has Romney done anything illegal with his tax shelters???DUMB ASS...

[spjames]

Originally Posted by ace's n 8's

Has Romney done anything illegal with his tax shelters???DUMB ASS...

We don't know he won't show us his tax returns. Also how does one end up with 100 million in an IRA when the max contribution is $6000 per year?

[CS natureboy]

Originally Posted by spjames

You call him a criminal because he follows standard currency investment practices and is just better at it than others. But you don't hate the guy because of that. You hate him because he contributes to liberal causes.
There are plenty of US millionaires and billionaires right now that want to raise taxes on the poorest of the US population yet you righties see no wrong in that. Want to take away an chance for them to get better medical care. Is there wrong in that? You damn well bet there is. Ask Paul Ryan it's part of his plan.

The Conservative ethos... Fuck you I've got mine.

No you over the top dumb fuck. I call him a criminal because George Soros is a convicted felon.

You really are pathetic and stupid huh?

And a scum bag too!

Breaking => George Soros’s Felony Conviction Upheld By Strasbourg Appeals Court!

October 11, 2011 by VolubrjotrComments Off

George Soros, the billionaire hedge fund manager, has lost a case at the European Court of Human Rights to have his criminal conviction for insider dealing quashed.
The failed appeal in a 4-3 decision by the Strasbourg-based court is the latest twist in a nine-year battle by the 81-year-old Mr Soros to clear his name following his conviction in France in 2002.
The French criminal case hinged on trades that the Hungary-born investor had executed 14 years earlier in the stock of Société Générale that reaped his hedge fund, the Quantum Fund, $2.9m in profits.
Mr Soros was found by the court in 2002 to have had inside knowledge about the intentions of a group of super-wealthy French investors – the “golden granddads” – to bid for the bank.
Although the bid failed, Mr Soros’s fund profited by buying shares before – and selling after – the group’s intentions became public and resulted in a spike in SocGen’s share price

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/10...appeals-court/