do nice guys really finish last?

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

How do you know that, did you ask them, or are you just guessing?

Guessing.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Guessing.

And there we have it, the true answer to most of the subjects you post about on the forum........"guessing/in my opinion".

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

And there we have it, the true answer to most of the subjects you post about on the forum........"guessing/in my opinion".

If I can document an assertion I do. Otherwise I reserve judgment.

[David345]

Personally - I prefer to finish after my girl. It lets us both reach the pinnacle of our desire for sex - to climax. There have been times I have had a girl climax twice before I do - They love it.
One of my lovers at the moment has a nice way to let me know she is satisfied and for me to finish it off. She plays with my nipples and I cum real quick when she does that.
The biggest turn off a girl can say to me is 'come on hurry it up'. Particularly if she hasnt cum.
The fastest way for a girl to cum or if she hasnt and wants to - is get on top - cowgirl, she then in the perfect position to bring herself off.
Generally it is better to talk about it while you are on the job and make sure you both enjoy the fuck.

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by N.E. Woman

I noticed how nobody answered "where do you hang out" to socialize/ meet these supposed women that dismiss you...

Obviously I don't want specifics, just an overall gist:

The dog park walking my dog
The grocery store
The night clubs
The local bar
A higher end bar
Sporting events
Adult Ed classes


So am I to assume since no one answered, you in fact stay home, in which case you're complaining for nothing or you stalk the teenie boppers at the under 21 clubs....?

Well I stopped dating women in the states so I haven't been dismissed in a few years. But I used to meet women at tech school, nice bars, social groups and parks. But they were usualy women I was already friends with.

[ridgerunner]

i met my wife at a tactical firearms training camp that we both attended
prior to that i was married to a woman i had known since childhood on the reservation
and between the 2 was 1 girlfriend that was a fellow Marine
she was a nurse while i was at sam houston



hope that answers the question ne

[richief]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Maybe so, but I'm not going to drag another person into this bullshit. If I did, I would be no better than the people telling me to. It would be inconsiderate to the other person involved. They would become a target. I will not play that childish game.

You already have dragged others into this nonsense, you claim I am sending PMs to my friends, so posting actual proof will not hurt them, in fact I guess they are looking forward to seeing this PM, so post if you have it or admit you are telling fibs.

I know what will happen and am confident in my position, are you?

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Guessing.

Guessing, well then if you are basing your idea of how relations work on a guess I guess we can really ignore your posts on the matter.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

Guessing, well then if you are basing your idea of how relations work on a guess I guess we can really ignore your posts on the matter.

Unlike many people who base strong beliefs on mistaken assumptions, if I cannot document a belief, I reserve judgment. Nevertheless, I do make tentative assumptions based on what I do know.

My beliefs on human sexual selection are based both on personal experience, and on The Evolution of Human Sexuality by Donald Symons, as well as other books about sociobiology.

Like The Bell Curve, and An Inconvenient Truth, by Al Gore, The Evolution of Human Sexuality conforms to what I do know to be true, so I assume that the central argument is fairly accurate.

I asked a friend, whose sexual experiences are fairly extensive, to read the book. He did and told me that what it says about differences in sexual behavior and preferences between men and women is fairly accurate, but that there is considerable overlap. I have come to agree. There are women who enjoy casual sex with many men, but there are many more men who enjoy casual sex with many women.

The great majority of male prostitutes sell their services to homosexual men rather than heterosexual women. The same can be said of male pornography.

Even on XNXX most posters who respond favorably to penis photos seem to be men.

[69magpie]

@Doggo, how do you respond to the penis, cock, dick, schlong, wang-dang-doodle, one-eyed trouser snake, bologna pony, salami, tube steak, pork sword, love muscle, tonsil tickler, knob, beef bayonet, skin flute, tally whacker ......

Going by this statement of yours, "Even on XNXX most posters who respond favorably to penis photos seem to be men".....I take you're also checking out the appendages of your fellow man.


Also, did a friend tell you this..."The great majority of male prostitutes sell their services to homosexual men", ....or did you learn it from personal experiences.

[richief]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Unlike many people who base strong beliefs on mistaken assumptions, if I cannot document a belief, I reserve judgment. Nevertheless, I do make tentative assumptions based on what I do know.

My beliefs on human sexual selection are based both on personal experience, and on The Evolution of Human Sexuality by Donald Symons, as well as other books about sociobiology.

Like The Bell Curve, and An Inconvenient Truth, by Al Gore, The Evolution of Human Sexuality conforms to what I do know to be true, so I assume that the central argument is fairly accurate.

I asked a friend, whose sexual experiences are fairly extensive, to read the book. He did and told me that what it says about differences in sexual behavior and preferences between men and women is fairly accurate, but that there is considerable overlap. I have come to agree. There are women who enjoy casual sex with many men, but there are many more men who enjoy casual sex with many women.

The great majority of male prostitutes sell their services to homosexual men rather than heterosexual women. The same can be said of male pornography.

Even on XNXX most posters who respond favorably to penis photos seem to be men.

And yet I always dated intelligent and good looking ladies, I was never going to be rich so it must have been something other than my wallet that attracted them.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by richief

And yet I always dated intelligent and good looking ladies, I was never going to be rich so it must have been something other than my wallet that attracted them.

Perhaps they liked uniforms.

I do not suggest that in any sort of derogatory way.

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by richief

You already have dragged others into this nonsense, you claim I am sending PMs to my friends, so posting actual proof will not hurt them, in fact I guess they are looking forward to seeing this PM, so post if you have it or admit you are telling fibs.

So sad, and you have the nerve to call me paranoid. The only person harping on this issue is you. I already told you that I can't post any PM content or the names of the members involved. Forum rules and privacy concerns prohibit it. I could be banned for doing so. I know that you want me to be banned. However, I will not go along with your pathetic plan.

Believe it or not, I actually feel sorry for you. You are a sorry excuse for a man. You are ignorant, unsophisticated and rude. I can't be too hard on you though. When you attack me or go on one of your buffoonish rants, I know that it's just the meth talking. Sure, you have a woman in your life. Unfortunately she weighs a metric ton and is missing most of her teeth due to meth use and poor oral hygiene. She has her flaws, but she does love you. And that's the most important thing. Just remember that when you are feeling sad and tying off in the bathroom. Big mama loves you.

Now be a nice little man and jump back into the shallow end of the gene pool where you came from.

[69magpie]

@TheGentleman.

Learn the rules if you're going to try and quote them, One can post PMs if the sender has given you permission to do so....and I believe Rich has already done that at least twice, so post away.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Yes it's true. Nice guys really do finish last. I know that from experience. Women often talk about wanting a nice guy. As most of us already know, they are full of shit. Women almost never say what they really mean. They speak in a coded language that only they and other women can understand. The sad fact is this, women only date assholes. Nice guys never get any pussy. That's just how it is guys. Life isn't fair. No one ever said that it was.

Don't believe me? Have you ever heard a Fifty Shades of Grey? For those of you who don't know, it's a book. The book is about a man who sexually abuses, degrades and humiliates a young woman. Women love this book and it's title character Christian Grey. I rest my case.

Look, Mr PW - and I don't mean Pussy Whisperer. You have no idea what women want. If you did, you wouldn't be alone, or a virgin.

For your information, most women would not go near an asshole - mean or nice. As previously said, a nice guy who's intelligent and confident is the most desirable. Not a dishrag who blames his lack of social life on the fact that women speak in codes.

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by ejls

Look, Mr PW - and I don't mean Pussy Whisperer. You have no idea what women want. If you did, you wouldn't be alone, or a virgin.

For your information, most women would not go near an asshole - mean or nice. As previously said, a nice guy who's intelligent and confident is the most desirable. Not a dishrag who blames his lack of social life on the fact that women speak in codes.

Nice guys kiss a lot of ass, but don't get any ass. That's not just my opinion. Take a look at the other posts in this thread. Most of them make the same argument. We can't all be wrong.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Nice guys kiss a lot of ass, but don't get any ass. That's not just my opinion. Take a look at the other posts in this thread. Most of them make the same argument. We can't all be wrong.

Hmmm, would it have anything to do with the women you choose? I'm telling you what most women desire - a nice guy who is intelligent and confident. If he's an asshole, he should just crawl back under his stone.

And while we're at it - why do men in their 50s and 60s, who admittedly have a few pounds to take off (evidenced by their beer bellies) only want to date younger women who are slender and toned. Seriously? Do you think she'll find you any more attractive than you do the women your own age who also have a few pounds to lose?

Mr PW - do yourself a favor. Do not begin to try to explain what women want. You have absolutely no experience having a woman. Remember?

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Nice guys kiss a lot of ass, but don't get any ass. That's not just my opinion. Take a look at the other posts in this thread. Most of them make the same argument. We can't all be wrong.

Most??, I've found three and one of them is doggo and going by his own admission he has no idea and has to ask a friend......so who are the rest of the most?.

[Distant Lover]

I like The Gentleman, and do not like to see him get flamed. Nevertheless, he seems to think that all women have options that are only open to the most beautiful.

Anyone can find a partner of the opposite sex if he or she will accept less in the way of youth, beauty, and social position. Those who cannot find someone are looking above their level of desirability.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

Most??, I've found three and one of them is doggo and going by his own admission he has no idea and has to ask a friend......so who are the rest of the most?.

It is a slow night, so I deign to respond. If I cannot prove an opinion beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt I hold it as something that is likely to be true rather than a conviction.

[N.E. Woman]

I find it very ironic that the two males that have the least experience with women, have the most opinions?!? (DL and The Gentleman).

PS- Magpie, who calls their "Johnson" a beef bayonet??? Although I did laugh at your list of cock names!
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[69magpie]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Nice guys kiss a lot of ass, but don't get any ass. That's not just my opinion. Take a look at the other posts in this thread. Most of them make the same argument. We can't all be wrong.

One out of two ain't to bad I suppose...for starters You aren't a nice guy, if you were you wouldn't verbally abuse every woman on here...and the second part, with your attitude you need to resolve to yourself that the only sexual partner that you will ever get is Mrs palmer and her five ugly daughters.

[mo.bil]

Originally Posted by N.E. Woman

I find it very ironic that the two males that have the least experience with women, have the most opinions?!? (DL and The Gentleman).

PS- Magpie, who calls their "Johnson" a beef bayonet??? Although I did laugh at your list of cock names!
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A truly nice guy would insist that the woman finish first. A great guy would do everything to ensure that his woman would finish twice. Mobil

[N.E. Woman]

Originally Posted by Capnip-Everdeen

That fucking lib bitch sports it all the fucking time! What the fuck is wrong with that carpet muncher?

'The Gentleman' quoted the above, then posted below....

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

She is a militant left wing lezbo. She wants to be a man. She probably has a strap on too.

(this posted from another thread)

"Gentleman".... Do you still want to say you are a nice guy? Not only are you NOT a nice guy, I'm not surprised no women anywhere will give it, or anything, to you!

[BeastlySoul]

So I guess it's just good luck and godspeed for the rest of us? Would any women like to give any more advice or tips that haven't already been given? Anything would be appreciated really.

[TheGentleman]

For those of you who are still not convinced that nice guys don't get pussy, watch, listen and learn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mFK_e4KWs I tried to embed the video, but the chick moderators blocked it. I'm not surprised. They don't want the truth to get out. Just follow the link to see the video.

[69magpie]

Do you mean embed like this.....you sad fuck.

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

Do you mean embed like this.....you sad fuck.

Thanks, I guess.

The chick moderators must really like you.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

For those of you who are still not convinced that nice guys don't get pussy, watch, listen and learn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mFK_e4KWs I tried to embed the video, but the chick moderators blocked it. I'm not surprised. They don't want the truth to get out. Just follow the link to see the video.

Um, Mr PW? Imbedded YouTube links are allowed. See? There you go talking about something you don't have any understanding of. None of us blocked anything, so cut the lies, okay?

[ejls]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Thanks, I guess.

The chick moderators must really like you.

You see, Magpie is a nice guy, who knows how to imbed a link. Nice try, Mr. PW. It's your own fault you can't follow directions.

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by ejls

You see, Magpie is a nice guy, who knows how to imbed a link. Nice try, Mr. PW. It's your own fault you can't follow directions.

I checked the FAQ. It was completely worthless information. Well, at least I know how to spell embed.

No, Magpie is not a nice guy. He is an asshole. That's why you like him. So you see, I am right. Asshole behavior equals female acceptance.

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

I checked the FAQ. It was completely worthless information. Well, at least I know how to spell embed.

No, Magpie is not a nice guy. He is an asshole. That's why you like him. So you see, I am right. Asshole behavior equals female acceptance.

You have to check the stickys not the FAQ.

[69magpie]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

I checked the FAQ. It was completely worthless information. Well, at least I know how to spell embed.

No, Magpie is not a nice guy. He is an asshole. That's why you like him. So you see, I am right. Asshole behavior equals female acceptance.

If you are the typical tea-bagger then god help us if your bloke gets into the white house.

You are a sad sad sad fuck, and I see you've attracted a couple of your fellow sad fuck brothers on your lastest masogynist thread.

You're so fucking sad that even your own Mrs Palmer would reject you.

[sullygom]

I'm sure lots of females appreciate a guy who finishes last !!

[shyguyy2]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

If you are the typical tea-bagger then god help us if your bloke gets into the white house.

You are a sad sad sad fuck, and I see you've attracted a couple of your fellow sad fuck brothers on your lastest masogynist thread.

You're so fucking sad that even your own Mrs Palmer would reject you.

Hey Now. He deserved alot of that but I commented on his lastest thread.

[sullygom]

Originally Posted by N.E. Woman

I find it very ironic that the two males that have the least experience with women, have the most opinions?!? (DL and The Gentleman).

PS- Magpie, who calls their "Johnson" a beef bayonet??? Although I did laugh at your list of cock names!
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How about mutton dagger, a tyke expression !!!

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by 69magpie

If you are the typical tea-bagger then god help us if your bloke gets into the white house.

You are a sad sad sad fuck, and I see you've attracted a couple of your fellow sad fuck brothers on your lastest masogynist thread.

You're so fucking sad that even your own Mrs Palmer would reject you.

Bye Bye Barry

[SecretSexyBlogger]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Nice guys kiss a lot of ass, but don't get any ass. That's not just my opinion. Take a look at the other posts in this thread. Most of them make the same argument. We can't all be wrong.

So I'm weighing in...

The guy I loved most is a nice guy. Truly a great person. We split up four years ago and I STILL think he's one of the best people I've ever met. He didn't have money when we met, he wasn't stunningly handsome, but he was a great guy, and for the last six years he's been my best friend. (He ended the relationship for personal reasons.)

As for TheGentleman: You're like every other guy I've known who's said "I'm a nice guy". No, you're actually not. Sitting and listening to a girl talk about her problems all night isn't "nice" if all you're thinking about is fucking her. Girls aren't machines that you put friendship credits into until they fuck you.

Nice guys make their intentions clear, they're open and honest, they care and listen too. Not nice guys tell you they want to be friends, act like your friend, but do it just to have sex with you.

If you act like a friend, expect to be treated like one. If you want more, you have to speak up.

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by SecretSexyBlogger

So I'm weighing in...

The guy I loved most is a nice guy. Truly a great person. We split up four years ago and I STILL think he's one of the best people I've ever met. He didn't have money when we met, he wasn't stunningly handsome, but he was a great guy, and for the last six years he's been my best friend. (He ended the relationship for personal reasons.)

As for TheGentleman: You're like every other guy I've known who's said "I'm a nice guy". No, you're actually not. Sitting and listening to a girl talk about her problems all night isn't "nice" if all you're thinking about is fucking her. Girls aren't machines that you put friendship credits into until they fuck you.

Nice guys make their intentions clear, they're open and honest, they care and listen too. Not nice guys tell you they want to be friends, act like your friend, but do it just to have sex with you.

If you act like a friend, expect to be treated like one. If you want more, you have to speak up.

Thanks for the advice. I'm sorry to hear about your break up. It really must have been painful. If it makes you feel any better, I feel like a real jerk sometimes. I know that I post a lot of outrageous and mean things. But I don't really mean them. It's just how I deal with the pain of having women laugh in my face all day.

As for being a woman's friend and listening to her problems, I have done that. I consoled a woman a few years ago after her husband cheated on her. I talked to her for hours on the phone. I told her that she had a right to be upset. I even made her laugh several times with some humor. I cheered her up when she needed it the most. I told her how beautiful she was, even though she was only average looking. After all of that, the bitch still wouldn't let me fuck her. I didn't even get a blow job. She told me that I was a nice guy and that she just wanted to be friends. The kiss of death. She went back to her cheating bastard husband. All I got out of the deal were blue balls. I don't regret the time I spent with her though. I'm not bitter about it. She was a nice woman. It made me feel good about myself knowing that I made her feel better. So you see, I really am a nice guy. I just don't always show it.

Take care

[origen01]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Thanks for the advice. I'm sorry to hear about your break up. It really must have been painful. If it makes you feel any better, I feel like a real jerk sometimes. I know that I post a lot of outrageous and mean things. But I don't really mean them. It's just how I deal with the pain of having women laugh in my face all day.

As for being a woman's friend and listening to her problems, I have done that. I consoled a woman a few years ago after her husband cheated on her. I talked to her for hours on the phone. I told her that she had a right to be upset. I even made her laugh several times with some humor. I cheered her up when she needed it the most. I told her how beautiful she was, even though she was only average looking. After all of that, the bitch still wouldn't let me fuck her. I didn't even get a blow job. She told me that I was a nice guy and that she just wanted to be friends. The kiss of death. She went back to her cheating bastard husband. All I got out of the deal were blue balls. I don't regret the time I spent with her though. I'm not bitter about it. She was a nice woman. It made me feel good about myself knowing that I made her feel better. So you see, I really am a nice guy. I just don't always show it.

Take care

are u serious?

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by origen01

are u serious?

Unfortunately Yes

[origen01]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

Unfortunately Yes

nah, are you seriously that much of a prick?

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by origen01

nah, are you seriously that much of a prick?

Yes, I am.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

I checked the FAQ. It was completely worthless information. Well, at least I know how to spell embed.

No, Magpie is not a nice guy. He is an asshole. That's why you like him. So you see, I am right. Asshole behavior equals female acceptance.

Magpie has never been anything but a complete gentleman to me. There are very few assholes here in GD. As far as links go, it was very simply explained above. Sorry you didn't understand it.

[I hate implants]

I feel like this entire thread is a staggering tribute to one man's stupidity.

[Distant Lover]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

I consoled a woman a few years ago after her husband cheated on her. I talked to her for hours on the phone. I told her that she had a right to be upset. I even made her laugh several times with some humor. I cheered her up when she needed it the most. I told her how beautiful she was, even though she was only average looking. After all of that, the bitch still wouldn't let me fuck her.

Consoling a married woman because her husband committed adultery, and then getting angry because she does not commit adultery with you is the behavior of a cad, not a gentlemen.

I am sorry, TheGentleman. I like you and hope you stay on my Friends' List. Nevertheless, you have been giving real gentlemen a bad name.

You feel the fact that beautiful women turned you down for dates gives you a reason to dislike the entire sex. What about the plain women who wanted you to ask them out, but you never did? I am sure they existed, but you probably never noticed them.

[ejls]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Consoling a married woman because her husband committed adultery, and then getting angry because she does not commit adultery with you is the behavior of a cad, not a gentlemen.

I am sorry, TheGentleman. I like you and hope you stay on my Friends' List. Nevertheless, you have been giving real gentlemen a bad name.

You feel the fact that beautiful women turned you down for dates gives you a reason to dislike the entire sex. What about the plain women who wanted you to ask them out, but you never did? I am sure they existed, but you probably never noticed them.

+1

[Prurient Purveyer]

He last posted on August 11 and has since been asking people to skype with him, so he's coping presumably.

The thread has been taken over by The Gentleman who's inability to get laid would be touching if that's what he was.

All in all I think we could put a fork in this one.

[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by Distant Lover

Consoling a married woman because her husband committed adultery, and then getting angry because she does not commit adultery with you is the behavior of a cad, not a gentlemen.

I am sorry, TheGentleman. I like you and hope you stay on my Friends' List. Nevertheless, you have been giving real gentlemen a bad name.

You feel the fact that beautiful women turned you down for dates gives you a reason to dislike the entire sex. What about the plain women who wanted you to ask them out, but you never did? I am sure they existed, but you probably never noticed them.

Listen, that chick was very upset about her husband fucking another woman. They were separated at the time because of it. She was thinking about leaving his sorry ass. I forgot to mention that in my earlier post.

Dude, I came very close to going balls deep in that chick. I raised the issue several times during our phone conversations. She was receptive to the idea, but was noncommittal. You know how women use sex as a form of revenge. That fact was not lost on me. I was hoping for a hot angry revenge fuck, but it never happened. I was blue and so were my balls. It also could have developed into a relationship. She was a very nice woman and she liked my personality.

But wait, there's more to the story. Get this, the woman her husband cheated with was a fatty. As it turns out, her husband was a chubby chaser. His wife told me that she had lost weight shortly before he cheated. This made her less desirable to her husband. She wanted to lose the weight and was proud of her new figure. Her husband however was not happy about it. So he found himself a big girl to bust a nut on. It's like something out of a movie or TV show. It was difficult not to laugh when she told me about it.

[BeastlySoul]

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[michael saint]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

But wait, there's more to the story. Get this, the woman her husband cheated with was a fatty. As it turns out, her husband was a chubby chaser. His wife told me that she had lost weight shortly before he cheated. This made her less desirable to her husband. She wanted to lose the weight and was proud of her new figure. Her husband however was not happy about it. So he found himself a big girl to bust a nut on. It's like something out of a movie or TV show. It was difficult not to laugh when she told me about it.

Classic.