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Old 08-23-2009, 02:45 PM   #1
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Yay i thread really about football....'real' football where the objective is to 'kick' a ball, hence the name.

Well i dont support Fulham, but have nothing against them, so good luck.

Come on Liverpool, this season should be ours!!!!
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Baseball is so much better.
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Baseball is basically 'rounders' i would rather have football anyday..god i would even rather have your 'girls rugby' and that is saying something.
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American football players would kick a SOCCER players ass
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Well 'football' players don't play the same sport as you, i would love to see your players actually have to tackle and kick the ball around the field.

Now 'rugby' players, play just as tough, without the padding and other protective gear you players wear. Yes i too would love to see a match between the two, though without the protective gear, that your guys wear.
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Well 'football' players don't play the same sport as you, i would love to see your players actually have to tackle and kick the ball around the field.

Now 'rugby' players, play just as tough, without the padding and other protective gear you players wear. Yes i too would love to see a match between the two, though without the protective gear, that your guys wear.
Lol American football sucks, its a bunch of big dumbass men, getting dressed in tight pants, and shovin each other around.
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Lol American football sucks, its a bunch of big dumbass men, getting dressed in tight pants, and shovin each other around.
Ermmm, right now you have confused me.

Were you not just going on about 'American Football' saying how it is better than our 'Footbal'??
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Ermmm, right now you have confused me.

Were you not just going on about 'American Football' saying how it is better than our 'Footbal'??

Good catch, I wondered the same thing.

Who won the match?
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Ermmm, right now you have confused me.

Were you not just going on about 'American Football' saying how it is better than our 'Footbal'??
Yeap just playing the part of the dumb jock American who would have come along sooner or later lol
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TF: hello hon how are you?? We won the match of course
was alittle touch and go, we really need to start playing like we want to win.

Foot: oh i see, and yes you are probably right..thou i do believe a thread has already been started up for 'girls rugby'.

So now i'm curious...what is your opinion really??
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I've always been with Aresenal, I dont know how well they will come out, but they will at least snuff out liverpool.
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TF: hello hon how are you?? We won the match of course
was alittle touch and go, we really need to start playing like we want to win.

Foot: oh i see, and yes you are probably right..thou i do believe a thread has already been started up for 'girls rugby'.

So now i'm curious...what is your opinion really??

Go Liverpool!! Have you seen that movie (can't remember the name) that was about the fan's Firms. Was brillant, I wondered if there is any truth to it. ( about the fans for United...it was about team support and rep)
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Green street hooligans?
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Yes, thats the one. I love it. TY bro
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Np I watched that movie three times when I first saw it lol
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nah haven't seen it hon. I don't really watch programmes like that, football fans and supporter already get a bad enough reputation about us being hooligans, without them making films on it.

Oh and foot, Arsenal will finish 4th like they always do...or maybe even lower.
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Well 'football' players don't play the same sport as you, i would love to see your players actually have to tackle and kick the ball around the field.

Now 'rugby' players, play just as tough, without the padding and other protective gear you players wear. Yes i too would love to see a match between the two, though without the protective gear, that your guys wear.
Here's a tantalizing thought naughtygirl, a game of rugby union between the best of american gridiron players and the English national team or the New Zealand All Blacks, and no padding or helmets. What a bruising game that'd be, especially where the english were known for stomping or digging the ball out of mauls using their boot studs.
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Here's a tantalizing thought naughtygirl, a game of rugby union between the best of american gridiron players and the English national team or the New Zealand All Blacks, and no padding or helmets. What a bruising game that'd be, especially where the english were known for stomping or digging the ball out of mauls using their boot studs.
To be honest, its not really that much of a tantalizing thought. My comments about 'American Football' where just to say that i think its very similar to our 'Rugby' only our guys don't have any of the protective gear.
The two sports don't really excite me in any way. However if the American players were willing to play our rugby players, without the protective gear, then i would of course watch, might change a few people's opinions also.

However we have a thread for 'Amercian Football' already and this thread, as i pointed out before is for 'real' football, the kind that does excite me.
The kind were two teams, play against each other, using nothing but feet and head, to score. Its a game of skill and 'one' of our countries greatest sports, not to mention also watched and supported from people all over the world.

It is not about seeing who is the hardest, and who can hit the hardest.
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To be honest, its not really that much of a tantalizing thought. My comments about 'American Football' where just to say that i think its very similar to our 'Rugby' only our guys don't have any of the protective gear.
The two sports don't really excite me in any way. However if the American players were willing to play our rugby players, without the protective gear, then i would of course watch, might change a few people's opinions also.

However we have a thread for 'Amercian Football' already and this thread, as i pointed out before is for 'real' football, the kind that does excite me.
The kind were two teams, play against each other, using nothing but feet and head, to score. Its a game of skill and 'one' of our countries greatest sports, not to mention also watched and supported from people all over the world.

It is not about seeing who is the hardest, and who can hit the hardest.
I tried to make the same point in the other thread as well that a game of skill is more exciting to watch than 2 teams trying to beat the turps out of each other.

Collingwood for our championship game, in 4 weeks......and Liverpool for the Premier League, and West Ham to go up again next year.
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I tried to make the same point in the other thread as well that a game of skill is more exciting to watch than 2 teams trying to beat the turps out of each other.

Collingwood for our championship game, in 4 weeks......and Liverpool for the Premier League, and West Ham to go up again next year.
Oh sorry, i thought you were like the others, going on about how great 'American Football' is ect...i shouldn't have jumped to assumptions.

Thank you. I too think a game of skill is more exciting to watch then teams striving to be the hardest, by knocking ten kinds of crap out of each other; if i wanted to watch people beating the crap out of each other, then i would just watch boxing.

Also thank you for your kind words about my team, i wish for that too, but we will need to start acting like we want to win, as were getting beat by some very poor teams and again our consistency is not there.

I don't follow your game, however i will give my support to your team, so i hope you win in four weeks.
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all of these games require strength speed stamina and skill in different proportions for the positions played in them. Whilst we all enjoy our chosen sport it is only an opion as to which one is better, each one appeals to different people. We dont all want to be the same do we? Ng, liverpool losing to poor teams grrrr lol
Football violence nearly ruined our national game, there is no place for it, sadly tf it is all based on truth.
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all of these games require strength speed stamina and skill in different proportions for the positions played in them. Whilst we all enjoy our chosen sport it is only an opion as to which one is better, each one appeals to different people. We dont all want to be the same do we? Ng, liverpool losing to poor teams grrrr lol
Football violence nearly ruined our national game, there is no place for it, sadly tf it is all based on truth.
I agree on some points, yes all of the games require speed, strength and stamina, however...football the 'real' football is not about beating the crap out of each other.."well apart from some very dirty tackles".
Its a game of skill, that i just can't see with the others. All i see is one man has the ball and the others will beat the crap out of him to obtain it, yet this is acceptable.

Oh i do agree that the world would be a very boring place if we all liked the same sports, the same things even.

My point in all of this is thread is to support my team and show my love for 'real' football, this is a football thread after all, and once again it seems to be dominated by 'American Football' debates..grrrr

Bunny, Liverpool have been losing to poor teams, after all we did lose to yours...lol But hopefully are win against Bolton, will make us wake up and realise we need to play every game with the skill, and determination that we have; that is Liverpool!!
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because Americans dominate the forum. Canadian football is just a minor variation on Americat football. World Futbol, called soccer here, is probably America's favorite youth sport today, but it still has to catch on as a spectator sport among adults. I hope it will; I believe there is room for both sports in this country. I speak as a Pittsburgh Steeler fan and a former youth soccer coach, having coached some pretty bad teams outdoors, and a championship team in Arena Soccer.
Unless Australian football gets a broader base, it will never be competitive outside Oz.
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I tried to make the same point in the other thread as well that a game of skill is more exciting to watch than 2 teams trying to beat the turps out of each other.

Collingwood for our championship game, in 4 weeks......and Liverpool for the Premier League, and West Ham to go up again next year.
Yeah, right, skill you say. American football is far more mental than soccer ever will be. Try reading defenses, calling the correct audible and then executing said play while a guy that weighs well over two hundred pounds tries to tear your head off. The comment about padding is a joke, without it there would be dead players weekly. Tougher than an NFL player, no athlete, unless you want to consider boxers or MMA fighters. Soccer more exciting than American football, I'd rather watch moss grow on a tree. To each their own, you keep watching your no contact soccer, I'll keep watching real men make spectacular catches, runs, and HITS! Now your fans are fun to watch when they riot and beat the shit out of each other.
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Yeah, right, skill you say. American football is far more mental than soccer ever will be. Try reading defenses, calling the correct audible and then executing said play while a guy that weighs well over two hundred pounds tries to tear your head off. The comment about padding is a joke, without it there would be dead players weekly. Tougher than an NFL player, no athlete, unless you want to consider boxers or MMA fighters. Soccer more exciting than American football, I'd rather watch moss grow on a tree. To each their own, you keep watching your no contact soccer, I'll keep watching real men make spectacular catches, runs, and HITS! Now your fans are fun to watch when they riot and beat the shit out of each other.

Actually my football game of choice is Australian football, go and read the other football thread and you'll get a description of our unique game down here, it's a mixture of rugby, soccer and gaelic football with a couple of extra tweeks added....and sport is supposed to be a game of skill and not a death match.

As i wrote in the other thread it's relatively easy to catch a ball that's been thrown with a flat spiral, try catching that same ball that's been kicked from 60 yards away and is spinning end over end.

I used to watch American gridiron and know enough about it to know what's happening and sure it can be exciting, well except for the continous stops after each play to measure how far they've run. Like soccer Australian football flows without stopping to measure distances....and a good game for an American running back is 200 yards, well how about a good game for our main ball players is up to 9 miles each game.

Also unlike soccer our supporters don't have time to beat each other up as there's too much scoring going on over the 2 hour game.
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i love football and i like american football a lot. personally i cant stand rugby as its too messy and often the play lacks a point to it. american football has padding and helmets for a reason. if rugby players played american football the way its played without the protective gear then there would not be very many rugger buggers walking off the field. its the way the ball is distributed and the forward pass dominance in the american version that makes it more exciting and dangerous than the wishy washy handling of a rugby ball. you very rarely see an american football of the same shape twirling and falling about the place so indiscriminately as you do on a rugby field. its slower in actual play and really quite dull to me.
i still prefer premiership football above all else but i think that american footballers would win at their own game and 'soccer' players would win at their own game every time.

liverpool firm never was in any football firm film as someone mentioned. that would be millwall and west ham i think you mean
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ps i think australian footballers would probably beat rugby players at rugby
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australian football is not like soccer/football, its far more violent than rugby
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Soo they'd get carded off the pitch if they played by their 'football rules' then, wouldn't they? But if they were playing ruggers, by the rules, then d'ohpe!!
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nah its not that its just that rugger buggers would all just be generally larger framed big girls blouses compared to the australian footy guys who might actually have a chance of beating american footballers without the padding and still walking off the playing field
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nah its not that its just that rugger buggers would all just be generally larger framed big girls blouses compared to the australian footy guys who might actually have a chance of beating american footballers without the padding and still walking off the playing field
In the UK most people who play American Football also or have played Rugby, so I reckon they could beat each other, don't you? Just for a famous axample, Martin Johnson started out playing American football.

But this thread is about football, not aussie rules, rugby or gridiron.
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Yeah, right, skill you say. American football is far more mental than soccer ever will be. Try reading defenses, calling the correct audible and then executing said play while a guy that weighs well over two hundred pounds tries to tear your head off. The comment about padding is a joke, without it there would be dead players weekly. Tougher than an NFL player, no athlete, unless you want to consider boxers or MMA fighters. Soccer more exciting than American football, I'd rather watch moss grow on a tree. To each their own, you keep watching your no contact soccer, I'll keep watching real men make spectacular catches, runs, and HITS! Now your fans are fun to watch when they riot and beat the shit out of each other.
Ahhh so they are 'real' men because, its a contact sport and there trying rip each others heads off, is that right??
Well that does not exactly sound like a skill, men do that everyday on the streets for nothing. For you to suggest that football hooligans rioting and fighting is the only time you enjoy our 'football' well then that speaks for itself. You like violent sports, try watching our rugby you will see people hurt in that, since they don't have any protective gear. You will see players get so hurt, that they come back on the field bandaged up, after they have just had stiches...i feel this might appeal to you.

Real football, is a game of skill....its about working as a team, striving a head to get the ball, tackling other players, using only your feet, no its not a contact sport as such, which makes it alot harder, then once getting that ball, trying to run with it, while the opposing team, comes in for the tackle at every given opportunity and to then take it past, up to 4 defenders and a goal keeper and score. Now that is real skill.

Personally my definition of a 'real man' as you put it, is one that can use his brain rather than his fists. So i believe that our footall players are much more 'real men' than any of your American Football players will ever be, but like you said it each to their own.
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In the UK most people who play American Football also or have played Rugby, so I reckon they could beat each other, don't you? Just for a famous axample, Martin Johnson started out playing American football.

But this thread is about football, not aussie rules, rugby or gridiron.
As you have pointed out this thread is about football, that is exactly how aussie rules is played by kicking goals with your feet, in our game you can't score a goal with your head or running the ball over the line. The ball has to leave your foot and not be touched.....hence, football
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i have no probs with aussie rules, i love most sport. So you dont use your hands in aussie rules?
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As you have pointed out this thread is about football, that is exactly how aussie rules is played by kicking goals with your feet, in our game you can't score a goal with your head or running the ball over the line. The ball has to leave your foot and not be touched.....hence, football
The game 'football' is more than just scoring goals with your feet, its about playing the majority of the game with the ball on the ground and kicking it. Our players do use their heads at time, but i'm sure you would agree it would be impossible for them to play using 'only' their heads for 90 minutes, not inculding stoppage time. Since the majority of our game is played using your feet, i think we qualify as what should be classed as football, looking at it from a logical perspective.

However having looking into your sport a little, just browsed really, as like to have a full understanding of what i'm debating. I can see that you do have to score goals with your feet, saying this you do also get to run with the ball and infact the ball only really touches the ground when you are trying to score. Even so i do believe you have more right to comment about your sport on here and call it football than people who support 'American Football'.
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I think I'll just root for Manchester United, I dunno how their team is, but I hear the after parties are great
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i have no probs with aussie rules, i love most sport. So you dont use your hands in aussie rules?
Yes in aussie rules you can use your hands to catch the ball but when passing it to another player it can only be punched with a closed fist as in Gaelic Football. We also have a 2 tier scoring system, the highest score is a goal which is 6 points and that can only be scored by kicking the ball either along the ground or in the air and once it leaves the boot it can't be touched, but if it is then it will be deemed a behind which is worth 1 point, so with these 2 methods of scoring it can mean there's continous scoring and can get some high scores which leaves no time for the opposing supporters to fight between each other.
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I think I'll just root for Manchester United, I dunno how their team is, but I hear the after parties are great
You have just gone down in my book...grrrrrrrrrrrr
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i think its cute fulham still have one fan ... the last remaining fan but still

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theres nothing wrong with man u ... we have a easy champions league group as well its going to be a good season
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theres nothing wrong with man u ... we have a easy champions league group as well its going to be a good season
Wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch if i were you...

United thought Barca was an easy champs league group, look how that turned out.
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i never thought barca would be a easy team but they were in a pretty easy group ...... this year though you gotta admitt the groups kinda easy
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You always seem to get the easy groups, and we always get our nemesis chelsea..grrrrrrr

Its okay, we have our sights on making it 6 stars

And this season the groups have worked in our favour too
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well i can guarentee we will get bayern munich somewhere i swear there hasnt been a year we havent played them or does it just feel like that..

how have the groups worked in your favour?
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well i can guarentee we will get bayern munich somewhere i swear there hasnt been a year we havent played them or does it just feel like that..

how have the groups worked in your favour?
They worked cos i reckon we should be able to beat them all hands down. of course one we qualify thats a different matter, then it will be 'Liverpool vs Chelsea, once a bloody gain...
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