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Old 08-31-2009, 06:52 PM   #101
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Whilst that sounds an attractive proposition you cant really ask people to change can you? thats wrong
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Well...as a Fulham supporter, I'd have to agree!!

to be honest boys..

soccer makes for a good workout but I could care less wat team ur on.. jus as long as ur good at wat u do...

I support all sports all teams..
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Whilst that sounds an attractive proposition you cant really ask people to change can you? thats wrong
yeah i couldnt do that ... its more fun to be dating a rival anyway
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yeah i couldnt do that ... its more fun to be dating a rival anyway
But mens performance/desire apparently goes when their team loses, obviosly being a spurs fan I'm to used to losing for any effect,
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But mens performance/desire apparently goes when their team loses, obviosly being a spurs fan I'm to used to losing for any effect,
not always especially not if there are sexual favours depending which team wins ... makes the game more interesting
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not always especially not if there are sexual favours depending which team wins ... makes the game more interesting

Guess thats anouther benefit of a girl who likes football, Fancy watching a game sometime
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Guess thats anouther benefit of a girl who likes football, Fancy watching a game sometime
mmm well i do like football depends what kind of favour your offering
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mmm well i do like football depends what kind of favour your offering
well backing my team I guess I'm gonna be giving a lot of favours, good job I enjoy giving
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nice one looks like the liverpool reds have taken over this thread! just like the boys will start to do in the league very soon (and the champions league)

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Ahhh so they are 'real' men because, its a contact sport and there trying rip each others heads off, is that right??
Well that does not exactly sound like a skill, men do that everyday on the streets for nothing. For you to suggest that football hooligans rioting and fighting is the only time you enjoy our 'football' well then that speaks for itself. You like violent sports, try watching our rugby you will see people hurt in that, since they don't have any protective gear. You will see players get so hurt, that they come back on the field bandaged up, after they have just had stiches...i feel this might appeal to you.

Real football, is a game of skill....its about working as a team, striving a head to get the ball, tackling other players, using only your feet, no its not a contact sport as such, which makes it alot harder, then once getting that ball, trying to run with it, while the opposing team, comes in for the tackle at every given opportunity and to then take it past, up to 4 defenders and a goal keeper and score. Now that is real skill.

Personally my definition of a 'real man' as you put it, is one that can use his brain rather than his fists. So i believe that our footall players are much more 'real men' than any of your American Football players will ever be, but like you said it each to their own.
To start I never classified them as "real men". Secondly, American football requires an extreme skill set. Those x's and o's are more difficult than any sport, game plans are worked out long days all week between games. As far as the athletes they are world class that require more conditioning and are subject to injuries that some prima donna soccer player would never accept as a condition of their sport. You can like rugby, soccer, Aussie football all you want, don't ever belittle the skill and athleticism of American football players. You talk of scoring against defenders that can't touch or grab you as being so skillful, it is nothing compared to scoring against men who can not only touch or grab, but against those that do a hell of a lot more than just touch or grab. Just catching a rocket pass from Bret Favre is difficult, to catch it when being defended and knowing a bone jarring hit is coming takes extreme concentration and no fear. Yes, as you said, "real men" would be a good description of American footballers.
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I'll keep watching real men make spectacular catches, runs, and HITS! Now your fans are fun to watch when they riot and beat the shit out of each other.
Here you go notice, i've took the liberty of taking out the other stuff you talked about so i could highlight, were you talk of American Footballer's being 'real men'., hope you don't mind. So as you can see it was 'you' and not me that said they were 'real men'.

Right guessing you don't know much about football, oh and before you jump, i mean our football, so i will enlighten you.

First of all...football players don't just come on the field and then start kicking a ball. They have lots of practice too that has to take place. The game and the way they attack and defend is all skill and takes alot of practice. They train most days....its a full time job!!

Secondly most of the players are on the pitch for 90 minutes, not including added time, for stoppage or injury. They play for 45 mins then get a 15min break then another 45 mins. while playing they run up and down, sorry sprint up and down a pitch that is 110 x 75 yards for that amount of time. They don't get to come off every 10 minutes or so. So i think we can easily see that in order to have that level of stamina not to mention endurance, are football players are very fit athletes too!!!

As for belittling your sport, hey its just my opinion, as you yourself have your own and you and your supporters don't mind belittling mine at every given opportunity.
No its not tit for tat, i'm more mature than that. I don't really understand your sport, to me its just like our ruby, like i have said, only you wear lots of protective gear. Your sport as you have pointed out yourself is about, who hits the hardest, quote

"catching a rocket pass from Bret Favre is difficult, to catch it when being defended and knowing a bone jarring hit is coming takes extreme concentration and no fear. Yes, as you said, "real men" would be a good description of American footballers."

I wont bother about the real men quote, as we both know that you said it first now, from the first quote i posted of yours.

Finally this is a thread about FOOTBALL not 'American Football', you already have a thread for that. I was hoping to talk and debate with people who love the same sport as mine, not keep going over which is best 'American football' or our football. So i have said my piece on it, and will leave it there.
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ok so whats the thoughts about the final top 4 eligibles for next years champions league...

first off i would like to say

1. Liverpool
2. Chelsea
3. Man U
4. Arsenal
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5. Spurs
6. Man City

i added in 5th n 6th coz i do believe these teams will be really strong and there may not be a lot in the top 6 by the end of the day.

Liverpool coz i couldnt pick anyone else and just you all wait till they get going proper - long live Benitez!

Chelsea and Man U seem quite similar to me overall but i think Man U are nowhere near the form of last year and were lucky to take the title over the course of the season (so many unconvinging 1-0 wins with quite a few of those coming as a result of the mysterious adding on enough minutes to break the deadlock tactic). Chelsea look stronger and more powerful to stretch the season but will be pipped at the post by the reds!

Arsenal is a tricky one coz i always see them as capitulating in the last third after a strong start but this year im not so sure. possibly will do better than man u and that would please me greatly.

city i would like to think are real title challengers but i think they wont be ready this time around. Spurs have an energy and passion about them thats proving to be really effective. if someone was to break into the top 4 it might be them you never know (and please let that mean that man u drop out!)
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ok so whats the thoughts about the final top 4 eligibles for next years champions league...

first off i would like to say

1. Liverpool
2. Chelsea
3. Man U
4. Arsenal
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5. Spurs
6. Man City

i added in 5th n 6th coz i do believe these teams will be really strong and there may not be a lot in the top 6 by the end of the day.

Liverpool coz i couldnt pick anyone else and just you all wait till they get going proper - long live Benitez!

Chelsea and Man U seem quite similar to me overall but i think Man U are nowhere near the form of last year and were lucky to take the title over the course of the season (so many unconvinging 1-0 wins with quite a few of those coming as a result of the mysterious adding on enough minutes to break the deadlock tactic). Chelsea look stronger and more powerful to stretch the season but will be pipped at the post by the reds!

Arsenal is a tricky one coz i always see them as capitulating in the last third after a strong start but this year im not so sure. possibly will do better than man u and that would please me greatly.

city i would like to think are real title challengers but i think they wont be ready this time around. Spurs have an energy and passion about them thats proving to be really effective. if someone was to break into the top 4 it might be them you never know (and please let that mean that man u drop out!)
O.o are you a Liverpool supporter??
If not, thank you for putting Liverpool at the top of the list...i'm so hoping so this season, was gutted last.

I think if Liverpool go out with the conviction and determination, we could easily win every game...its just our inconsistency that lets us down

Winning the prem would be a dream, we were so close last year and it came down to 3 bloody points...i felt so sick.

This season we, will take what should of been ours last season!!!

Yep chelsea, United and Arsenal will defo qualify. City have a good team with the likes of the new signings, tevez (united were very stupid to give him up) but i can't really see them coming in the top 4. As for spurs, yeah they are playing good now, but they did that last season and then never came anywhere really. Still its early days and anything can and no doubt will happen.

One of the things i love about this game, you can never predict what will happen. Love football
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transfer deadline day... wasnt that exciting as it has been the previous years did you team get your target?

man united for the premiership title i understand people are saying that last year about 1-0 wins but still are they not wins and if they were so easy why didnt your team put more of them away?
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Chelsea for the Premiership and Champions league......Just thought i would throw that out there.....*Runs for cover*
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aww the dillusional how i envy them your lucky your cute and ill forgive the chelsea supportiage
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O.o are you a Liverpool supporter??
If not, thank you for putting Liverpool at the top of the list...i'm so hoping so this season, was gutted last.

I think if Liverpool go out with the conviction and determination, we could easily win every game...its just our inconsistency that lets us down

Winning the prem would be a dream, we were so close last year and it came down to 3 bloody points...i felt so sick.

This season we, will take what should of been ours last season!!!

Yep chelsea, United and Arsenal will defo qualify. City have a good team with the likes of the new signings, tevez (united were very stupid to give him up) but i can't really see them coming in the top 4. As for spurs, yeah they are playing good now, but they did that last season and then never came anywhere really. Still its early days and anything can and no doubt will happen.

One of the things i love about this game, you can never predict what will happen. Love football
im a very definately Liverpool red and delighted to be so. bit disappointed there has not been some miraculous shock signing by the 5pm deadline but regardless of that i think we will come good and be the force to be reckoned with.

we are undoubtedly missing alonso but if we can hold it together until our injuries are all cleared up then we will be back with a bang and that has gotta hurt the rest. im looking forward to seeing aquilani's efforts to fill alonso's boots and as soon as the defence is all injury free i think it will be the strongest defence in the league by far.

we so should have bought another top striker though. we are a team thats currently (without injuries) set up to be so effective away from home and that goes for both the premiership and the champions league. everyone else must surely fear us visiting their grounds. but we badly need a home formation to combat the opponents who either sit in and defend with their lives or come out all guns blazing to have a go with nothing to lose. we need to be playing 4-4-2 with 2 out n out star strikers at home and a settled strong attack minded midfield with our normally strong defence. torres should be partnered with another top striker instead of trying to use the likes of voronin or stretching gerrard thin on the ground making him less effective. we need to keep gerrard free to hit them where it hurts.

yeah i thought the title should have been ours last year and if it wasnt for that inconsistency you were talking about it sure would have been. man u were very unconvincing champions. so many poor games with lucky points taken late in the game. on the other hand liverpool were always involved in exciting battles and some games were epic, not just the 4-4's

yeah i gotta agree with you, its all so unpredictable and exciting most of the time. i wished for it but i didnt expect burnley to beat man u! that was supreme (and much needed from our point of view). who could have predicted us starting so badly on day one, or should that be spurs starting so well?

spurs are improving on the end of last season after an atrocious start. we definately need to watch out for them this time around, like i say, if anyone will break the top 4 it looks most likely to be them.

agree with you about tevez. i think by the end it couldnt be stopped. sounds like fergie took him for granted and never paid him any attention or respect while he was with the club. so as much as tevez may have wished the opposite was the case fergie made sure that he would be headed elsewhere and no amount of summer grovelling would have made any difference. i guess fergie still has a lot to learn about handling footballers too. i could not believe they took owen but was thankful we didnt take him back! sure he was a great when he was with us but i cant help but be disappointed that he would ever consider signing for man u after being a Liverpool legend. he is off the xmas card list for good and i cant see him being all that much good these days anyway so good luck to them.

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Forgiveness...great, And here i though i would have road flares and flaming motor scooters thrown at me......oh wait that is the Italian League....lol
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... because the plethora of commercials allow for quality snack breaks
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... because the plethora of commercials allow for quality snack breaks

lol, I support Womens Beach Vollyball!!

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ok so whats the thoughts about the final top 4 eligibles for next years champions league...

first off i would like to say

1. Liverpool
2. Chelsea
3. Man U
4. Arsenal
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5. Spurs
6. Man City
I think you've got the top six teams right but, as much as it pains me to say it, Chelsea are going to take some beating.

I also think Man U will be lucky to finish 3rd...and can almost see them not qualifying for the champions league. (deep joy) That will all depend on how things pan out at Man City, Spurs and of course, Liverpool.


At the other end, I can't see Portsmouth surviving, nor Wolves and Hull.

Fulham will finish somewhere mid table.
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I think this is a interesting development ... chelsea banned from signing any players in the next two transfer markets ...
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wow that is harsh, FIFA and UEFA seem to be getting tough.
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well chelsea have been warned so many times over there pursit of transfer targets and flaut the rules .... 18 months untill they can sign anyone and they werent even busy in this transfer market if they go through a bad injurty spell there screwed
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and their key players are getting old, 18months is a long time for a footballer.
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jose is a reason they got this harsh a punishment all the tapping up that happened when he was there is part of the reason they were so harshly punished for this
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thats a firm bite, still I'm sure they will appeal and get it reduced.
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im not sure i think fifa and uefa are trying to show the world they have teeth after everything they have let slip by in the past and chelsea got the ashley cole tapping up reduced so i dont know
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....*grumbles*..forgot about that.......We will still win the premiership..despite this brickwall....I hope it comes down to the wire...
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Despite being spurs I'm gonna agree with you on that, I think you look like a team again.
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kakuta isnt even a good signing and they have been banned for 18 months for him lol such a fail on the part of chelsea

even if chelsea can get near the title this season next season they are screwed especially because of the world cup all players get injured there
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I think this is a interesting development ... chelsea banned from signing any players in the next two transfer markets ...
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A lot of you also can't seem to tell the difference from a club stating they would like to sign someone contracted to another club, culminating in £80 million in recompense for the club who holds the contract... and the shady business practice of "hmm, here's an idea, you break your contract and we'll take you on board without paying any compensation at all to your orginal club".

God, do Chelsea really need to save £1 million here and there?
And, like others have said, Ancelotti already has the squad he wants for this season....and I still fancy Chelsea for the prem if nothing else.
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back in 2007 and the few years before chelsea thought there shit didnt stink basically they were like man city right now thought if they splashed money all over the place they could buy whatever they liked get trophies and not pay attention to the rules set out by the governing bodies

the thing they have been banned for this time is not tapping up it is seen as something worse than that by fifa as tapping up is seen to be a part of them game now especially where chelsea is concerned

its not about chelsea trying to save any money its about them thinking they have so much money rules dont apply to them and they can simply just pay fines because it doesnt touch the sides
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back in 2007 and the few years before chelsea thought there shit didnt stink basically they were like man city right now thought if they splashed money all over the place they could buy whatever they liked get trophies and not pay attention to the rules set out by the governing bodies

the thing they have been banned for this time is not tapping up it is seen as something worse than that by fifa as tapping up is seen to be a part of them game now especially where chelsea is concerned

its not about chelsea trying to save any money its about them thinking they have so much money rules dont apply to them and they can simply just pay fines because it doesnt touch the sides
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it made me smile to learn about the unusual punishment delivered unto chelsea with the loss of buying rights in 2 transfer windows.

but considering that this is a punishment coming 2 years after the actual event and considering that the management has changed in the meantime its a typical shit decision making too late as usual.

rules will always be broken or attempts will be made to bend the rules on technicallities. but its not fair to wait to long to administer punishment. before the start of the next season would have been more than enough time to sort this out. why wait so long and burden a completely new manager with something that happened in another persons tenure. in this case it may well have had nothing to do with the manager at the time and more to do with the owner but this is still a ridiculous length of time to wait.

so what are they really saying? dont worry about breaking rules in the future, in fact get away with as much as you can now coz you know you will probably get screwed soon anyway for something that happened in the past. the decision makers need to get some focus here and concentrate on the here and now.
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it made me smile to learn about the unusual punishment delivered unto chelsea with the loss of buying rights in 2 transfer windows.

but considering that this is a punishment coming 2 years after the actual event and considering that the management has changed in the meantime its a typical shit decision making too late as usual.

rules will always be broken or attempts will be made to bend the rules on technicallities. but its not fair to wait to long to administer punishment. before the start of the next season would have been more than enough time to sort this out. why wait so long and burden a completely new manager with something that happened in another persons tenure. in this case it may well have had nothing to do with the manager at the time and more to do with the owner but this is still a ridiculous length of time to wait.

so what are they really saying? dont worry about breaking rules in the future, in fact get away with as much as you can now coz you know you will probably get screwed soon anyway for something that happened in the past. the decision makers need to get some focus here and concentrate on the here and now.
I agree it's a long time after the event but it's the club that is being punished, not the manager, although I doubt Ancelotti is best pleased.
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the same people in "charge" havent changed though the board is pretty much the same they have the same scouts and owner .. its just the manager who has changed and who really thinks that its the manager who taps up players?

i know that chelsea are appealing i just dont think they will get it reduced and i do not like chelsea as a football club and the way they view football but there is something strange happening with fifa and uefa at the moment people placed high in both organisations have hit out at the premiership and this could turn in to a man hunt

i mean these charges against chelsea are two years old .... what has taken them so long to come to a verdict ... and what does this mean to other clubs are uefa and fifa going to come down hard on all premiership clubs ... man united complained about real madrids blaitent pursuit of ronaldo and they got no punishment
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If they want to start cleaning up the leagues then i am for that but it seems the premiership is taking the brunt of it rite now....I would start with the Italian league....first, very violent and corrupt
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Will be interesting to see how FIFA deal with the continental clubs. Not sure we will all be treated the same. But it is about time FIFA and EUFA cleaned up football both on and off the pitch.
Chelsea have said they will fight this.
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i mean who was it in italy that was found guilty of match fixing and even they didnt get banned for so long from the transfer market or anything ... i mean i know tapping up is a big thing that needs to be ended and the corruption and things like that but one player being tapped up vs a whole season being fixed ...

i dont like that i am accidently defending chelsea it makes me feel qite queesy
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the same people in "charge" havent changed though the board is pretty much the same they have the same scouts and owner .. its just the manager who has changed and who really thinks that its the manager who taps up players?

i know that chelsea are appealing i just dont think they will get it reduced and i do not like chelsea as a football club and the way they view football but there is something strange happening with fifa and uefa at the moment people placed high in both organisations have hit out at the premiership and this could turn in to a man hunt

i mean these charges against chelsea are two years old .... what has taken them so long to come to a verdict ... and what does this mean to other clubs are uefa and fifa going to come down hard on all premiership clubs ... man united complained about real madrids blaitent pursuit of ronaldo and they got no punishment
yeah i can fully appreciate that the board and owner are mostly still in place so did they decide to punish just now after all this time because they were still in place, they may not have been. stuff the new high profile manager who now has to work with the goalposts moved for him whether he likes it or not. it maybe spot on to punish the club in such a fashion but it should have been done then or else left as its now too late to mean anything really.

maybe real madrid will be punished after ronaldo has retired
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just look at it as defending English football
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yeah i can fully appreciate that the board and owner are mostly still in place so did they decide to punish just now after all this time because they were still in place, they may not have been. stuff the new high profile manager who now has to work with the goalposts moved for him whether he likes it or not. it maybe spot on to punish the club in such a fashion but it should have been done then or else left as its now too late to mean anything really.

maybe real madrid will be punished after ronaldo has retired
This sort of thing is happening all the time in Football.....

Tapping up is a regular thing but difficult to prove and although this case is more serious than just simple tapping up, it takes time to find that proof and build a case. The mechanisms involved also move very slowly.


Oh...and just for the record......

Chelsea's charge sheet

Even before yesterday’s ruling, in the past four and a half years, Chelsea, their players and staff, have racked up around £900,000 in fines from the FA and Uefa.

March, 2005: Jose Mourinho fined £5,000 for questioning the integrity of Neale Barry, the referee of a Carling Cup semi-final first leg defeat by Manchester United two months previously
March, 2005: Chelsea fined £15,000 for failing to control their players against Blackburn in February
March, 2005: Mourinho given a two-match touchline ban by Uefa and fined £9,000 after Chelsea were charged with bringing the game into disrepute during a Champions League tie against Barcelona. Chelsea were fined £33,300. Mourinho claimed Frank Rijkaard, then Barcelona manager, entered the referee’s changing room at half time


June, 2005: Chelsea fined £300,000 and given a suspended three-point deduction; then-Arsenal defender, Ashley Cole, fined £100,000; and Mourinho, £200,000, after being found guilty of breaching Premier League “tapping-up” rules. Cole’s and Mourinho’s fines were reduced to £75,000 on appeal
November, 2005: The Londoners fined £30,000 for failing to control their fans after clashes at a Carling Cup tie against West Ham the previous season
April, 2006: Chelsea fined £10,000 by the FA after their players surrounded Mark Halsey, the referee, during a game against West Bromwich Albion the previous month
May, 2006: The club fined £10,000 by the FA for failing to control their players during a defeat by Fulham at Craven Cottage in March
June, 2006: Chelsea agree to pay £12 million to Manchester United and £4 million to Lynn Oslo for John Obi Mikel after protracted disputes between the three clubs over his registration. Chelsea take Lynn to court in 2008 in a bid to recover their outlay
August, 2006: Chelsea fined £40,000 by the FA after being found guilty of conducting private drug testing in July 2004
September, 2006: The BBC’s Panorama films Frank Arnesen, Chelsea director of youth development, allegedly “tapping-up” Nathan Porritt, a young Middlesbrough player. No action is taken
October, 2006: Chelsea reportedly offer £5 million compensation to Leeds and avoid action by the authorities after allegations of illegal approaches (which they denied) for Tom Taiwo and Michael Woods, who left the Leeds academy for Chelsea
January, 2007: John Terry, the captain, fined £10,000 by the FA for improper conduct after criticising Graham Poll, the referee during Chelsea’s 2-1 defeat by Tottenham the previous November.
March, 2007: Chelsea fined £100,000 by the FA, as were Arsenal, for their part in a brawl near the end of the previous month’s Carling Cup final
October, 2007: The club fined £30,000 by the FA for failing to control their players during a 2-0 defeat by Manchester United the previous month
January, 2008: Chelsea fined £40,000 by the FA over the behaviour of their players during a match against Derby County at Pride Park
December, 2008: The club are fined £25,000 by the FA for the role of their groundsman, Sam Bethell, in a confrontation with Patrice Evra, the Manchester United defender, after a match the previous April
March, 2009: Didier Drogba cautioned by the police for common assault for hurling a coin into the crowd during the Carling Cup defeat by Burnley the previous November. The FA banned him for three matches for violent conduct
June, 2009: Drogba banned for six European matches (two suspended) and Jose Bosingwa for four matches (one suspended) and fined £8,000 by Uefa for their part in the fall-out from Chelsea’s Champions League semi-final defeat by Barcelona the previous month. The bans are reduced by a game each on appeal. Chelsea are fined £85,000 for failing to control their players and fans
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This sort of thing is happening all the time in Football.....

Tapping up is a regular thing but difficult to prove and although this case is more serious than just simple tapping up, it takes time to find that proof and build a case. The mechanisms involved also move very slowly.


Oh...and just for the record......

Chelsea's charge sheet

Even before yesterday’s ruling, in the past four and a half years, Chelsea, their players and staff, have racked up around £900,000 in fines from the FA and Uefa.

March, 2005: Jose Mourinho fined £5,000 for questioning the integrity of Neale Barry, the referee of a Carling Cup semi-final first leg defeat by Manchester United two months previously
March, 2005: Chelsea fined £15,000 for failing to control their players against Blackburn in February
March, 2005: Mourinho given a two-match touchline ban by Uefa and fined £9,000 after Chelsea were charged with bringing the game into disrepute during a Champions League tie against Barcelona. Chelsea were fined £33,300. Mourinho claimed Frank Rijkaard, then Barcelona manager, entered the referee’s changing room at half time


June, 2005: Chelsea fined £300,000 and given a suspended three-point deduction; then-Arsenal defender, Ashley Cole, fined £100,000; and Mourinho, £200,000, after being found guilty of breaching Premier League “tapping-up” rules. Cole’s and Mourinho’s fines were reduced to £75,000 on appeal
November, 2005: The Londoners fined £30,000 for failing to control their fans after clashes at a Carling Cup tie against West Ham the previous season
April, 2006: Chelsea fined £10,000 by the FA after their players surrounded Mark Halsey, the referee, during a game against West Bromwich Albion the previous month
May, 2006: The club fined £10,000 by the FA for failing to control their players during a defeat by Fulham at Craven Cottage in March
June, 2006: Chelsea agree to pay £12 million to Manchester United and £4 million to Lynn Oslo for John Obi Mikel after protracted disputes between the three clubs over his registration. Chelsea take Lynn to court in 2008 in a bid to recover their outlay
August, 2006: Chelsea fined £40,000 by the FA after being found guilty of conducting private drug testing in July 2004
September, 2006: The BBC’s Panorama films Frank Arnesen, Chelsea director of youth development, allegedly “tapping-up” Nathan Porritt, a young Middlesbrough player. No action is taken
October, 2006: Chelsea reportedly offer £5 million compensation to Leeds and avoid action by the authorities after allegations of illegal approaches (which they denied) for Tom Taiwo and Michael Woods, who left the Leeds academy for Chelsea
January, 2007: John Terry, the captain, fined £10,000 by the FA for improper conduct after criticising Graham Poll, the referee during Chelsea’s 2-1 defeat by Tottenham the previous November.
March, 2007: Chelsea fined £100,000 by the FA, as were Arsenal, for their part in a brawl near the end of the previous month’s Carling Cup final
October, 2007: The club fined £30,000 by the FA for failing to control their players during a 2-0 defeat by Manchester United the previous month
January, 2008: Chelsea fined £40,000 by the FA over the behaviour of their players during a match against Derby County at Pride Park
December, 2008: The club are fined £25,000 by the FA for the role of their groundsman, Sam Bethell, in a confrontation with Patrice Evra, the Manchester United defender, after a match the previous April
March, 2009: Didier Drogba cautioned by the police for common assault for hurling a coin into the crowd during the Carling Cup defeat by Burnley the previous November. The FA banned him for three matches for violent conduct
June, 2009: Drogba banned for six European matches (two suspended) and Jose Bosingwa for four matches (one suspended) and fined £8,000 by Uefa for their part in the fall-out from Chelsea’s Champions League semi-final defeat by Barcelona the previous month. The bans are reduced by a game each on appeal. Chelsea are fined £85,000 for failing to control their players and fans
yeah changed my mind, serves them right, i actually cant stand chelsea. i hope Liverpool get them in the latter stages of the champions league again and this time we wont make any silly mistakes like scoring an own goal at home 2 years ago or losing badly at home like last year.
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I'm very pleased with decision regarding Chelsea, all the trouble they always cause and seem to just get a little slap on the wrists if you can even call it that.

They have broken the rules one too many times... i hope the decision stays, but who knows they are renowned for appealing things and having the punishment reduced.
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