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Old 06-27-2008, 04:37 AM   #101
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I think that it's very interesting how many guys vehemently condemn the practice, yet enthusiastically get off on reading stories about it. Something doesn't add up...

No..made up stories are completely fucking different from actually MOLESTING YOUR CHILD.
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No..made up stories are completely fucking different from actually MOLESTING YOUR CHILD.
St. Augustine wrote, "I am glad that God does not hold me responsible for my dreams."

I hope God does not hold me responsible for my day dreams. Actually, compared with some of the stuff I read here my day dreams are fairly tame.
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You are right. I have zero desire for my own daughter but I love to read and even write father/daughter incest stories. Not sure what that's about. Now my step daughters are a different story. They were hot young girls and I could have done that by desire but did not. Weird stuff now that you bring it up?
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if everyone only had sex with there brothers and sisters for about 1000 years (Lol i know long time) and anyone with any genetic abnormality was killed. then there wud be no more geneticly disorders
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mmm i think the whole insest thing is weird
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if everyone only had sex with there brothers and sisters for about 1000 years (Lol i know long time) and anyone with any genetic abnormality was killed. then there wud be no more geneticly disorders
words cannot describe the extent of your stupidity... there could be only two outcomes

a)everyone is killed

b)somewhere along the line there is a political movement dedicated to upholding the rights of genetically abnormal people and you fuckwitted retarded mongoloids kill the rest of the hicks...

only a disgusting sack of shit would ever have any sexual thought about a relative... i hope you die
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Wow, allow me to say that fantasy and reality are two different subjects.

One may think that the loving emotions shared between father and daughter would only deepen through sexual relations, but in total reality there is no such thing.

It destroys girls and forces them into something that they probably aren't ready for. In reality fathers and daughters should never get on the sexual level. Sexual intimacy is for father/wife ect. Keep your children out of your sex life, lest you wish to bring on some nasty behaviors as well as a lot of therapy.

Same goes for step-relatives. Step-fathers and mothers need to keep their behaviors away from their children.
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Same goes for step-relatives. Step-fathers and mothers need to keep their behaviors away from their children.
this is an issue that causes perhaps more arguments than incest in general, and all i can say is thank god there seems to be another sane person on the site who believes it is wrong for someone in a position of authority to molest and abuse a child... only retarded hicks are into incest in real life (fantasy incest is much more of a grey area)
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this is an issue that causes perhaps more arguments than incest in general, and all i can say is thank god there seems to be another sane person on the site who believes it is wrong for someone in a position of authority to molest and abuse a child... only retarded hicks are into incest in real life (fantasy incest is much more of a grey area)
Oh, I do believe you are soooo wrong with that. Incest knows no barriers ...
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this is an issue that causes perhaps more arguments than incest in general, and all i can say is thank god there seems to be another sane person on the site who believes it is wrong for someone in a position of authority to molest and abuse a child... only retarded hicks are into incest in real life (fantasy incest is much more of a grey area)
I don't know what to say about fantasies. I guess people can't control what they think, but it would be like fantasizing to kill your boss out of anger, and actually doing it.

We have a society to keep together. People need to realize that what might satisfy a fantasy can actually be a terrible experience in real life. I hate it when everyone mistakes for my father's girlfriend....

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about the fantasy side of things: i personally do believe that it is 100% wrong in terms of paedophilia, incest, beastiality etc... but i do think that it is less wrong than the act happening in reality

i wish that we lived in an ideal world where people could keep their fantasies to themselves and not inflict them on others...
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about the fantasy side of things: i personally do believe that it is 100% wrong in terms of paedophilia, incest, beastiality etc... but i do think that it is less wrong than the act happening in reality

i wish that we lived in an ideal world where people could keep their fantasies to themselves and not inflict them on others...
What I fear most here is that there is always the possibility that a fantasy will ultimately become reality. Incest, rape and pedophilia are few of the fantasies that once made a reality are most unnerving to me. This forum is enjoyable only in that I consider most things commented on here as being nothing more than fantasy turnons, If I thought all that was said here was the truth, I would say we are all in pretty big trouble as society.
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These threads REALLY piss me off. Piss me off in the regard we have some pedophile fucktard trying to justify their actions like it's doing good for the child, a bunch of other pedophiles chiming in to support them, then a bunch of other folks trying to justify "fantasy vs. reality".

Well listen up........If this topic, stories or fantasy gets you excited, then you my friend are a PEDOPHILE.

Look it up, a pedophile is someone who gets sexually aroused looking at, or thinking about children paraphilia falling along even more active lines. PERIOD. It is classified as a psychological disorder that is so strong in those having it that it is considered INCURABLE! It has also been determined that it can also be "DEVELOPED" in those who simply tempt fate simply considering it even on a fantasy level.

It is such fixed path that once someone steps down it they will NEVER, EVER step off it. They may not let it progress further, however once begun it is set in stone so much so that law enforcement and their psychological experts have determined that it is impossible for rehabillitation to occur, and ONLY constant monitoring of that individual will keep them from repeating any offences that got them caught in the first place.

So fuck your rediculous and unfounded BS about "it's only a fantasy"...It's bullshit made up by those who already see the attraction within themselves and are now trying to justify it.

I'll not even waste my time going into detail about the HARM this causes children.......and don't feed me your BS of "well I fucked daddy since 5 and look how perfect my life is"........Bullshit, you're lying......I suffered under that very yoke till I ran away at 10 to simply run into more fucked up predators. I've discussed this in length with more experts then most of you on any subject will meet in your life simply to understand my self. Lastly I know all too many men and women that suffered this fate as well......

...and NONE of them are happy about it.

Some of you lying motherfuckers make me more sick then I can describe.....Yet fact of the matter is if you support this in any form, fantasy, pictures, cartoons, or the real thing no matter whether you simply look or not....

You're simply a child molestor waiting to get the opportunity and courage to take it to the next level.

Don't believe me?....Think it's ok?.....Fine, then tell your wives, husbands, parents, ministers, local police about your thoughts if ok.....Lets see if you have balls enough to do that.

Otherwise, you're simply a cowardly predator who is so weak and immoral that you prey on the weakest of our species.....I have no sympathy for you....Die and suffer for all I give a fuck.

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According to this website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest father - daughter incest is the most likely to cause emotional harm when the girl is a minor.

I will not say that men who have sex with their underage daughters are "sick" because I do not think that mental illness is a cause of evil, but I do think they are evil, if there is any coersion at all, and in father - daughter incest there usually is.
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my gf is pregnant with our daughter and i can assure you that I will teach my daughter all about sex.
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my gf is pregnant with our daughter and i can assure you that I will teach my daughter all about sex.
i hope you dont mean..by molesting her...
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Hmmm. I suggest reading some of Heinlein's novels, especially the Future Histories concerning the Howard Families. Guy might have been a little out there, but I think he summed it up nicely with "Incest is a social taboo." It tended to crop up in his book a bit, generally with some out for the characters (Genetic modification to prevent defects, belief it was the end of the world and it was up to them to repopulate, etc.) but the one that stands out most in my mind is "To Sail Beyond the Sunset", which pretty much described a family attitude similiar to what the OP is talking about.

Basically the attitude was "Ensure no harm". If the kid has a question, answer it. If the kid has a request, and the ability to understand in part the consequences of the request, consider it. Better the education be handled by those who are trusted than by an unknown. It should also be noted that in every case the kid in question was well past puberty, normally into 14-16 year range if memory serves. And yes, there was at least one case presented in the book where the whole thing backfired, though not resulting in a freak baby.

So no, I'm not actively encouraging it. For one thing, there are more than a few things that could go wrong, and I don't mean getting caught and going to jail. I mean leaving a child with some severe mental issues to work out. But there is probably some good advice in there somewhere, if it helps.
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I just absolutely adore seeing that some things never seem to change -- You mention "father", "daughter", and "incest" in the same sentence, and the following two things are automatically assumed by virtually EVERYONE that posts in your thread:

1) The daughter is ALWAYS under age
2) Birth control will NEVER be used

Just as a reminder, the definition of 'daughter' is "female offspring", not "female offspring under the age of 18". Additionally, fathers and daughters that have a willing and mutually consentual sexual relationship are just as aware of common birth control methods as you are, and it's reasonable to assume that they use them for all the same reasons that you do. You know, to prevent unwanted pregnancies?
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this is some seriously fucked up shit
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all i can say is, god help any of my son-in-laws if they even think it !
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[quote=redrhino;140532]Hi all, thanks for your replies, You are unanimous against incest....
well, the reason of my question is that:

I know some cases in which the couple has reached a consensus in which daddy helps daughter to be introduced in sex. Sometimes even by incorporating her in the couple play.

Girls who expperienced this feel themselves better endowed to control their own sexual life when gorown.

Obviously,this has to be done with care, mutual consensus, at an appropriate age, and in a love environment.

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Isn't it true that 89.7864% of all facts given on the internet are made up? - I think you're dead wrong by the way, LEAVE your girls alone. Be their DAD not their lover. Don't justify acting on your perversion with bullshit.
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I just absolutely adore seeing that some things never seem to change -- You mention "father", "daughter", and "incest" in the same sentence, and the following two things are automatically assumed by virtually EVERYONE that posts in your thread:

1) The daughter is ALWAYS under age
2) Birth control will NEVER be used

Just as a reminder, the definition of 'daughter' is "female offspring", not "female offspring under the age of 18". Additionally, fathers and daughters that have a willing and mutually consentual sexual relationship are just as aware of common birth control methods as you are, and it's reasonable to assume that they use them for all the same reasons that you do. You know, to prevent unwanted pregnancies?
The thrust of this thread has been about "introducing your daughter to sex."

You don't need to "introduce" an 18+ woman to sex. She's probably done that on her own. The question is obviously about molesting underage girls.
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no it can not be.
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I have two daughters from my first marriage that are already married with families of their own. Both lovely girls that I had "the talk" with about sex and was there to answer any questions.

I also have two daughters living with me from my second marriage. The oldest one of these two is on a path to being one of the most gorgeous women in the world. She is absolutely stunning. She is 15 but easily passes for 18. She has a great body with a perfect hip to waist to breasts ratio. Her mother is Black, I am a light skinned, blonde green eyed Latino and this mixing of races went very well in this daughter. She has a very exotic look about her. She already has a smoldering sensuality about her. She is what every man dreams about having in his bed someday, but that bed will never be mine and I have never wished it to be. Instead, I am happy that I provided half of the DNA that produced a striking young woman that hopefully a young man will truly cherish for the rest of his life.

I do read the incest stories. And I find them hot, but not as a personal fantasy but as looking in on someone elses.
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I thing its beneficial. My dad taught me alot, how to deep throat, anal sex. Dad's the only one who I let fuck my ass. He's always there for me, not just for sex but to talk too.
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I think it 'could' be, but it could just as easily be harmful. I think it really depends on the context and stuff. Right now with culture the way it is, it probably gravitates toward being a bad idea. There are a lot of influences and stuff over people's thoughts. Even in the case of freethinkers, there's still that whole thing about secrecy and stuff, having to keep secrets can be pretty harmful. It may not seem like it, but I think subtly it can risk cutting people off from open conversation. Paranois is a hard thing to bear so it's good if people can live without it as long as they can.
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that is crazy and idiotic !
i would never done that
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A dad who would fuck his own daughter is a bad dad, no matter what you say... You can't change my mind.

When you first do it, you might not know if the girl only is going for it because it's her dad and she wants him to feel good about her, or if she really wants to... It can also go wrong in the girls head, even though she seems to like it.. I read on this after seeing stuff about it in the newspaper. Same goes for guys and daddies.
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Weather you like it or not, if a dad is fucking his daughter he IS taking advantage of her.
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Hey y'all, first post. Sorry for not introducing myself but I just had to chime in here.

This thread makes me depressed because the original poster is probably raping his own daughters regularly and people here are making jokes.


Listen to the survivors of abuse on this forum. INCEST and CHILD RAPE are not ok! And as for anyone who reads the father/daughter stories and think that you are good, shame on yourself. If you are in a position of authority you shouldn't be fantasizing about abusing it. Be a man and have some principles.
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i've enjoyed it for many many years starting with my sisters and then my daughters now my oldest granddaughter(eighteen) so it's beneficial to the fucking family and they enjoy it as much as me.
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beneficial for daughters? for daddies?
Hi women here, had you any experience, if not do you missed it?
Hi daddies here>>did you introduced your daughter into love sexuality? if not do you blame yourself? why?
Beneficial for the therapist maybe, sounds like the makings of another patient to me.
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Hi all, thanks for your replies, You are unanimous against incest....
well, the reason of my question is that:

I know some cases in which the couple has reached a consensus in which daddy helps daughter to be introduced in sex. Sometimes even by incorporating her in the couple play.

Girls who expperienced this feel themselves better endowed to control their own sexual life when gorown.

Obviously,this has to be done with care, mutual consensus, at an appropriate age, and in a love environment.

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Isn't it true that 89.7864% of all facts given on the internet are made up? - I think you're dead wrong by the way, LEAVE your girls alone. Be their DAD not their lover. Don't justify acting on your perversion with bullshit.
Areyou for fucking real? Bullshit meter just exploded!
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if everyone only had sex with there brothers and sisters for about 1000 years (Lol i know long time) and anyone with any genetic abnormality was killed. then there wud be no more geneticly disorders
actualy everyones dna would fuck up. lol idiot.
thats why interracial is healthier then in-breeding...
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Its interesting the number of assumptions that people make in regards to topics about incest, or any topic really.

It is always ASSUMED those involved are underage. (What is truly "underage" anyway)

It is ASSUMED that one of the parties is forced into it, becuase it is ASSUMED that no "normal" person would want it.

It is ASSUMED that a child will result from such an act.

Got to say, that's a lot of asses floating around.

And why are these assumptions made;

Because society says the no one under the, rather arbitrary, age of 18 can "handle" sex.

The sex is supposed to ONLY be with someone you love, so long as that person is not related too you.

Because society says that it is better for a person to learn about sex in the back seat of a car than from someone who actually cares about them.

Now onto the topic at hand:

I believe that an incestuous relationship, of any kind, can be beneficial. So long as it is consensual, and born out of a close and strong relationship.

Now que the haters.
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Incest propagates similar genes and increases the likelihood that undesireable and recessive traits could become dominant. Incest is responsible for the downfall of the Pharoes. They decided that noone was good enough to marry into their family so they limited their relationships to incest. By the third generation they were so retarded their empire crumbled. I see no benefit.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:16 PM   #142
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Incest propagates similar genes and increases the likelihood that undesireable and recessive traits could become dominant. Incest is responsible for the downfall of the Pharoes. They decided that noone was good enough to marry into their family so they limited their relationships to incest. By the third generation they were so retarded their empire crumbled. I see no benefit.
Exactly, we are driven out to seek mates who are as genetically different from ourselves as possible, that helps to prevent issues when one parent has a faulty gene but the other does not. There are barriers in place to prevent incest, like familial bonds, and they are surely there to prevent screwing with our genetic integrity.

When two people who have extremely similar genetics make a baby, that baby does not have the protection of genetic diversity, and especially over successive generations the likelihood of faulty genes becoming dominant increases.

I don't expect many people who religiously advocate incest to understand any of that, though. Nobody with any sensibility would advocate real incest in the first place, fantasy is one thing...
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Its interesting the number of assumptions that people make in regards to topics about incest, or any topic really.

It is always ASSUMED those involved are underage. (What is truly "underage" anyway)

It is ASSUMED that one of the parties is forced into it, becuase it is ASSUMED that no "normal" person would want it.

It is ASSUMED that a child will result from such an act.

Got to say, that's a lot of asses floating around.

And why are these assumptions made;

Because society says the no one under the, rather arbitrary, age of 18 can "handle" sex.

The sex is supposed to ONLY be with someone you love, so long as that person is not related too you.

Because society says that it is better for a person to learn about sex in the back seat of a car than from someone who actually cares about them.

Now onto the topic at hand:

I believe that an incestuous relationship, of any kind, can be beneficial. So long as it is consensual, and born out of a close and strong relationship.

Now que the haters.
I so agree with you Supreme!!!!
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I can't imagine what would have spawned this question. The obvious answer is "No, you're an idiot." But I won't say that. I'll just say no.
I'll say it.

To the OP- NO, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!
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i've enjoyed it for many many years starting with my sisters and then my daughters now my oldest granddaughter(eighteen) so it's beneficial to the fucking family and they enjoy it as much as me.
I find that extremely hard to believe and I'm so sick of hearing about that crap from you. You write about it nonstop, in all threads and all forums.
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I find that extremely hard to believe and I'm so sick of hearing about that crap from you. You write about it nonstop, in all threads and all forums.
Agree with you Christina.
Have to really wonder how undesirable a woman must be to choose to have sex with her grandfather and not a man her own age.
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I so agree with you Supreme!!!!
Such an intelligent, well thought out response!

Who benefits from an incestuous relationship that produces no children?

At best, only the two people involved are benefitting, it is nothing but selfish indulgence, convenience, and weakness.

Those are not things to live for.
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