Maybe you have been one of those kids who expected a trophy for just showing up since then but there are others who actually work for what they get.
Try it sometimes. It will give you a very good feeling knowing you actually worked for something.

 

Actually, I wasn't. Nice try, though.

 

You sound like one of them.
Why can't you make a living for your self?

 

Maybe because my job doesn't pay a livable wage?

 

Get one that does then. Simple!

 

And what other industry has not been automated to replace humans in those jobs?

Most good jobs have been automated, and the American standard of living is lowered.

 

This affliction predates the Trump presidency...

 

Give him another 90 days and he should have most of the problems worked out.
He would have already worked most of them out but when he stops to play golf he looses his thoughts on things.
A man has to have a little time to relax. Solving the problems of the world is very time consuming and can get boring.

 

That's a load of crap but if you want to use it as an excuse you're apparently not alone.

 

No, the american dream is crap.

 

Anyone who is 18 or older can sign up for military service and receive all the benefits that come along with it.
As for paying the rent back when I was in school? I was only working part time while going to school and I was saving for the down payment on my first house as well. That's why I needed a roommate to share the rent at the time.

At least I wasn't living with mom and dad, I was out on my own in my mid 20's.

 

Military service shouldn't be required for living a good life. And remember, you were doing all this twenty years ago, some presidents and recessions have happened since then. The economy and the wage value you had back then isn't the same as it is today.

 

It's not.... Parasites such as yourself find ways to live the "good life" all the time....

 

Ah, there you show what a great person you are. Oh if only more people were just like you!

 

Shooter's daughter moved out when she was 18. She has pretty much supported herself without any help since, and today runs a very successful business in San Diego. Shooters daughter would tell Sage of the forlorn path that living the good life requires that one determine what that means for them, and then pursue it. Everything else is just excuses.

Debt is a personal choice; one can live with debt or without it; their choice.

 

If you didn't care, you wouldn't bother to respond.

 

I just enjoy making fun of the supposedly grown people who still live at home with mommy and daddy.

 

My parents are 50 and 65 and we live in a rural area with lots of work to be done, I take care of a lot of the heavy house and yard work, and I don't want to leave my dogs. Try and make fun of that.

 

I can understand. 50 and 65 is not really old.
They should be able to take care of the housework and yard work.
You didn't say how old you are. If you are over 18 you should get the fuck out of their house and try to make it on your own.
It would be good for you and make a man out of you.
Or it could send you running back to mommy and daddy.

 

Once again, you show what decent person you are.

 

It's the fricking commies in our educational system! All this crap, trophy's for everybody, safe spaces, all the crazy things that weaken our children. All designed to weaken our freedoms. Wake up before it's too late.

 

Once agian bullshit! you have to teach your kids. if you leave that to a fascist school system then that's on the parent. you need to warn your kids about the bullshit that's. Coming down the pipe. If you don't your sending them to wolves

 

Im wide awake thank you. Let me ask you this, do you have any kids? I do and let me tell you the parents might not keep score but the kids sure do. And playgrounds are still brutal. I don't shelter my kids so they have a leg up but this no child left behind bullshit has done just that to many I know. at the end of the day its the parents job to educate their children.

 

Yes I have 3 successful children. Grown now. Of course I agree with you about it is the parents duty to raise and see to their education. What I am trying to tell you the communists in our school systems are throwing up road blocks to hinder the parents ability to raise their children properly. We had great kids, but I really got tired of hearing:but our teacher said, or Johnny's parents do not make him do chores, etc. When I went to school we did not have all this socialist crap...I really feel for young parents today, it is a tough enough job without interference from the schools and busybodies in the government.

 

We are on the same page brother

 

Give em' time...

 

So apparently when you whine about liberals, millennials, or Obama, that doesn't count as bitching? But as soon as we try to bring up the undeniable fact of wage stagnation vs the rising cost of living in an unstable economy, you don't feel like talking?

 

Wage stagnation? Inflation? Unstable economy?
You think those things never happened before you came around?
You think your generation has it worse than people growing up in the 1930's, or the 50's, or the 80's, or the 90's?
You really think that an unemployment rate below 5% is bad and an inflation rate of less than 2% is earthshattering?

 

Hell no I am not in the same financial shape as an 18 year old. I did get off my ass when I was 18 and get a job. That is the difference in me and you.
You are satisfied to set at home letting someone else make a living for you while you cry the world is not fair.
Get over it. You have to make a place in the world for yourself. You cannot expect someone else to do it for you.
There are millions of kids making their own way right now. They have one thing you don't. A desire to be an adult.

 

You are repeating yourself. You are looking for an excuse to be a bum.
Sounds like you are well on your way.

 

@msman
Here's a hypothetical for you to ponder over.

One of your kids is doing it tough, they've lost their job, is struggling to pay the rent or mortgage, they're struggling mentally...... They ask for your help.

What do you do?

 

Maybe instead of ripping on millennials, you could actually look at the world they're living in.
http://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/
http://www.highereducation.org/reports/affordability_supplement/affordability_1.shtml
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-of...an-jobs-a-greater-threat-than-terrorism/18725
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/02/06/special-report-automation-puts-jobs-peril/96464788/
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/31/cost-of-living-is-increasingly-out-of-reach-for-low-wage-workers.html

 

Help them as much as possible.

Now can I tell you what I would do if I was doing it rough, lost my job, struggling to pay the mortgage and struggling mentally?
It happened to me. It was my fault as I made some foolish decisions. I didn't think my parents should have to pay for my foolish decisions.
I went from being very comfortable to being homeless. It is very rough when you do not depend on others for any help at all.
It took me a year before I had a home again. I was homeless for a year. I found a job that was paying less than minimum wage.
I worked and saved. Since I did have an education and a skill I finally found a good job. It is very hard to get a job when you do not have an address or a phone.
You have to take what you can get.
I did it. Didn't ask for any help and it was hard.

 

Things have changed since then, a work ethic doesn't make up for wage disparity.

 

If a kid does not show some inclination to becoming an adult it isn't likely to come when they have a nest egg. They usually spend what they have on what they think is necessities, you know, those things a person with a job can pay for.

 

How many of those "jobs" are out there?

Why are there so many Americans living out of the backs of cars or living a transient life dragging their young kids around the country going from job to job.

Your minimum wage is shit, how is anyone supposed to survive on it in this day and age?.

 

Shooter got a bachelors degree in 5 years. He worked 3 part time minimum wage jobs his first year in school to pay for it. He graduated with no debt, partly by gradually turning those 3 part time jobs into one full time job. He did not live at home while he did that and got no help from anyone to pay for school or his living. Inflation at the time was something like 10% and the unemployment rate was around 8%. Interest rates for just about any loan was over 15%.

And lest you think Shooter is blowing smoke up your ass and telling tales of walking 15 miles uphill both ways to school in 5' snowdrifts with no shoes;

Shooters daughter graduated from college debt free in 2009, not living at home, not getting money from us, and working full time to pay for it. Today she owns a very successful business in San Diego.

Wage disparity? Inflation? wage stagnation? Excuses.

 

No one is guaranteed a good job. That is up to the person. It is made available to them but if they have to put out an effort.
Sometimes things do not work out like a person thinks they will. You need to have the backbone to get up and do something about it.
Nothing is easy in life.

 

Hey! Here is a novel idea... Let's deport all the illegal immigrants like the ones that overstayed their visas. That would open up a flood of good jobs. Hell I read where there are farms paying watermelon pickers 34 dollars an hour. It's true! 34 dollars an hour...

 

You have to want to get a job. You have to want to get an education.
You are wanting someone to hand it all to you because you think you deserve it.
You need to grow up. If you want to stay a kid all of your life and your parents agree with that you are doing great.
If you ever want to become a man you will have to act like one.

 

How many times am I going to have to repeat myself? If you want to get a job that pays an actual living wage, you're going to need to bankrupt yourself to get an education that will take years to earn a degree, then work for years as an underpaid grunt, all while your bills and living expenses build up.

 

Well I hate to break it to you son, but that is what you'll have to do. Your parents will not be around forever. If you have no skills or means to make a living you'll burn through any inheritance your folks leave you in a year or two. What will you do then? You must begin to plan for your future. No one is going to take care of you once your folks pass. Why keep putting off the inevitable?

 

So, in your world, what would a living wage be?
Mail carriers make an average of $50K a year. So do brick masons, equipment operators, choreographers and Wind Turbine technicians. None of these jobs require a degree or years of experience. All of these careers have openings pretty much all the time and the industries they work in are healthy. All provide transferable skills.

 

If a person wants to work they can. If they want to cry, whine, and live off mommy and daddy, that is their choice. Just don't expect very much respect from those who do get a job.

 

Thank God! Else Trump would have probably gotten beaten! Everyone knows deplorables are .............. deplorable!

 

So, you complain, but make excuses.