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  1. ace's n 8's

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    In his own mind, he was always right, always blaming someone else for his own failures.

    The sedition act was evidence of that, thankfully, greater minds flourished an it was repealed.
     
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  2. NicoleDeLint

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    To be fair Abraham Lincoln effectively repealed the writ of habeas corpus something that went back to the Magna Carta and it was not done again until George w bush

    I needed to say this in the interest of fairness of giving examples ofpresidential overreach
     
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  3. ace's n 8's

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    The country was at 'war' both times in history, there is alot to say about that...alone.

    I dont see that as presidential over reach.
     
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  4. NicoleDeLint

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    I see it as presidential overage. The loss of civil liberties by Wilson was also an act of war or at least an act justified by war .

    As a country we were better than Lincoln Wilson or Bush
     
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  5. Distant Lover

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    The right does not like that stuff. I have not read of efforts by those on the right to suppress the ability of people to advocate that.

    Those who argue that genes that are more frequently found among blacks than whites are responsible for low IQ averages among blacks, and higher rates of crime and illegitimacy risk not only their jobs, but their careers.

    High school mathematics teachers have told me in private that in their experience few blacks have been able to learn algebra II, and many cannot understand concepts as simple as fractions and negative numbers. It does not matter how the concepts are taught. They just cannot learn them.

    Can you imagine a high school mathematics teacher saying that in a letter to the editor of a local newspaper and keeping his job? I can't either.
     
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  6. deleted user 777 698

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    Anyone that attempts to restrict or eliminate opposing views are inferior people. Inferior people have inferior ideas and products.

    Inferior people choose to eliminate the competition when they cannot sell their product. Remember the Obama administration's attempt to censor talk radio and Fox News?

    Intelligent people improve their product. You must always be wary of inferior people, they are stupid and must be monitored for their own good. We need to insure they do not hurt themselves.
     
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      If I am going to make an informed decision then Fox News would not be my first port of call!!

      ts
       
      thinskin, Apr 23, 2017
    2. ace's n 8's
      To each their own.
       
      ace's n 8's, Apr 23, 2017
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      Fox will not be my port of call... and you know this how? Fox is certainly no worse than any other media outlet. 15 years ago I'd never have said such a thing, but the reality today is pretty damn shameful...
       
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      I did not say anything about your choice of information deliverer.........I simply said Fow News would not be my choice!

      Another mouth putting 2 and 2 together and making 5!

      ts
       
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  7. ace's n 8's

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    War is a fickle little bitch... Adjustments are required.

    Lincoln resided over a war that was within our borders, much could be said about Bush as well.

    What Wilson did was nothing less than Tyranny, a narccist bastard that he was.
     
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  8. NicoleDeLint

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    It would feel like hypocrisy to me to say that Wilson's so called adjustments were more acceptable than bushes or Lincolns .

    I'll give Lincoln and Bush credit because I don't believe either one of them attempted to stifle free speech I have to give credit to Wilson because he never repealed habeas corpus .

    One thing I will give Bush special dispensation for though is that when he repealed habeas corpus it was not American citizens that he was depriving . Believe that non Americans are not entitled to American rights . But then you get into the warrant of entering into war there in the first place but that Takes us in a whole different direction. It's interesting that George Herbert Walker Bush had serious reservations about the way his son handled the second gulf war.


    Lincoln famously said that he would not free a single slave if it helps the cause of reuniting the union so he lost credibility with me right there .

    His Emancipation Proclamation was a strategic war strategy because it would shame the Europeans from staying out of the war but it did not free a single slave and in fact Kentucky remained a slave state and when asked about this Lincoln said I would like to have God on my side but I need Kentucky .

    I was just watching a show the claims that more Americans were killed in the Civil War than all of our other words per together.

    That sounds suspicious to me but if you look at it proportionally it might be true

    I just don't know if the costs in human life were worth it to save the union

    I totally agree with you about Wilson and the fact that he had had a stroke and he set up a secret government run basically by his wife makes him even more culpable historically I believe .

    Perhaps I remain a little more Idealistic than you and maybe that makes me a bit naïve but I don't know .

    If you start ignoring the laws I don't know how can a country establish its own validity ?

    OK there's a lot of thoughts and I've just abandoned every one of the three things that my father tried to teach me :)
     
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  9. Distant Lover

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    From the beginning of the Cold War to the Tet Offensive it was dangerous in the United States to advocate socialism, criticize capitalism, or say anything good about any Communist country. Loyalty oaths, witch hunts, and black lists inhibited the rights of Communist Party members and Communist sympathizers to express their opinions. Often they were not allowed to work in education, journalism, and in the popular culture.

    The Tet Offensive in Vietnam during the spring of 1968 made the War in Vietnam unpopular. This made it possible to criticize the attitudes that led to the war. This in turn lessened the restrictions that the Cold War had placed on the expression of leftist opinion.

    A year later Berkeley Professor Arthur Jensen wrote an article in the Harvard Educational Review in which he said that little could be done to improve mental aptitude test scores and academic achievement. Since then little has been achieved toward those goals, despite expensive efforts like Head Start and No Child Left Behind.

    In other words, Professor Jensen has been proven right. Nevertheless, for the rest of his career at Berkeley his classes were often interrupted by leftist thugs. He received death threats. Occasionally he required police protection.

    In 1971 Harvard Professor Richard Hernstein anticipated arguments he was in 1994 to present with Charles Murray in The Bell Curve in an article in the Atlantic that was entitled "IQ."

    During the spring of 1972 the new left organization the Students for a Democratic Society held a convention at Harvard with the expressed intention to get Professors Jensen and Herrnstein, and a few others fired.

    Fortunately, SDS failed in its goal. It soon ceased to exist. Professors Jensen and Herrnstein kept their teaching positions. They continued to spread their theories far and wide. Unfortunately, it became dangerous to inquire into the relationship between genes, intelligence, crime, and race.

    The intellectual suppression of the left during the Cold War led to the War in Vietnam, the Iranian Revolution of 1979, and made the Cold War more dangerous than it needed to be.

    The intellectual suppression of hereditarians since the Tet Offensive has contributed to the persistence of social programs that fail, waste money, and reduce confidence in the government.
     
    1. shootersa
      Jesus.
      For all the reasons detailed in other threads, Jensen and Hernstein's arguments have been shown to be at best faulty and unreliable, and at worst just bigoted spew.

      Which is fine if you want to write letters to the editor or stand on your soap box.

      But it is not fine to present your work as a scientific study based on proven fact when the opposite is the case.

      Those two charlatans are anything but scientific researchers.
       
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  10. Mayling

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    I have theories. I think.
     
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  11. ace's n 8's

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    I can assure you....I do too.
     
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  12. Mayling

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    Please tell me your's and I'll tell you mine. I think.
     
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  13. Mayling

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    I have actually started to write a book which you may have heard me mention before, called '' The Theory of no Relativity'' as it relates to me. I'm serious when I say this too. I haven't got past the preface in in like 4 years. I think.
     
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  14. ace's n 8's

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    I dont tell shit.
    What's a ''book''
     
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