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  1. stumbler

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    Neighbors react to accidental fatal shooting of 3-year-old boy in Horry County

     
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    Teen shot in groin wounded himself, North Charleston police say

     
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    11-year-old Ridgeland child shoots 12-year-old brother in the face

     
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    Florida not only has a lot of gun accidents. They seem to ...

    Man accidentally shot in suburban Delray Beach

     
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    ... get weirder all the time.

    77-year-old newlywed shoots wife after argument over sleeping arrangements
    Says his wife never consummated their marriage

     
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    GunFAIL CCXXX

    by DAVID WALDMAN


    Look it up on Daily Kos
     
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    GunFAIL CCXXXI

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  8. gunner77

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    Not enough Good Guys with guns. Not all people with guns are bad. We need more law abiding citizens with guns.

    I own guns to protect my family my friends total strangers and last, myself. The second ammendment is there to protect all of our rights. It is not for hunting, but to protect us from a tyranny whether it be foreign or domestic. No such thing as as too much ammo or too many guns. Don't worry though, I will not judge anyone about their opinions. I will protect anyone, so long as they are not actively trying to take my rights. The reason the Japanese never tried to take the US on our soil was the fact our citizens were armed. One of the first things Hitler did as Chancellor of Germany was to disarm Germany's citizens. This world right now is as crazy as it has ever been. The very last thing we need is more gun control. We have way too much.


    Before anyone condemns guns, get the facts straight. Very few people outside of our militias, can actual own an automatic weapon. Automatic weapons are not very accurate. They are designed to lay down ground fire so a person A can move another person B from one location to another. Outside of use in a militia, they really are not that effective. My rifle is sighted in that I can hit a walnut at 200 yards. That's all I need. I have never spent one minute in jail. I have never been a suspect in any crime outside of speeding. I am a Good Guy. We need a whole hell of a lot of Good Guys with guns, cause the mother effer bad guys are not taking any days off. For all those liberal f*@KS that want to take my rights away; when the shit hits the fan, they always call someone with a gun. I might be their neighbor and the best friend they ever had because I would be there well before the other Good Guys with guns. So, they should be careful, because their real neighbor may not be as forgiving as me. I truly hope and pray I never have to take someone's life, but I can if it preserves life. That life I save, could be a family member, a friend, a stranger, my own, hell it could be theirs. So get some facts before spouting off opinion. Don't base opinion based on fear. I hope I never have to use my car insurance. It does not stop me from driving nor do I let my insurance lapse. One of biggest fears is to have to take someone's life, but I am still prepared to, if someone's life is in danger. I would never shoot anyone for stealing my stuff. I can get more stuff. FYI Most gun toting citizens that stand up for our (yours and mine) US Constitutional rights feel exactly the same way. In fact, conservatives and liberals alike want to get that guns out of the bad guys hands. We just have different approaches. The good guys withguns want all good guys to have guns. Here is an example let's say 7 out of 10 adults had a CWP, (concealed weapons permit) and were carrying a hand gun. How many banks would get robbed? Convenience stores? How about rapes? See criminals are not dumb. They know statistics too. They base their actions on risk. I say arm as many Good Guys as we can. Let's take the streets back. Let's make our neighborhoods safe. I walk with no fear. It is a good feeling. See 10 years ago I was saying the same damn thing. Why would you ever need an extended magazine or a tactical rifle or 3 hand guns? I was afraid of guns. There loud and destructive. I did not ever believe that guns should be made illegal though. I kept my distance on the issue and always believed I should never infringe on anyone's rights. Then I was invited to shoot one day. I was shown the proper way to handle a gun. I was shown how to respect a gun. I was hooked. Now my only fear is having to actually use one in a life and death situation. Not afraid to die for standing up for what is right, but afraid that I will have to take someone's life. See Gunner doesn't miss often. So if I fire, the likelyhood that the target will cease to breathe, is quite high. That is why it will be my last resort. All avenues of resolving conflict will be used before I fire a weapon. I suggest everyone find a responsible gun owner and have them go over gun safety, how to respect it and how to fire it. The least that can happen is that a second side of a coin can be seen. Then, when firing off opinion one can be informed first hand as opposed to political rhetoric. The worst thing one can do is base an opinion on someone else's opinion. It is best when one forms his own opinion based on his own fact finding. One must always keep in an open mind.
     
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      Hey @gunner77 I just posted all the following good guys with guns from 02/22/17 alone.

      And are they "good guys" to you?
       
      stumbler, Feb 24, 2017
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    Good guy with a gun.

    Man Accidentally Shoots Self in Leg After New Gun Purchase

     
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    Good guy with a gun.

    Police: Fort Myers man injured in accidental shooting

     
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    Good guy with a gun.

    Man accidentally shoots friend in leg

     
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    Good guy with a gun.

    Accidental shooting takes life of Quapaw man
     
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      No not a Good Guy. IDIOT!

      YOU WILL NOT WIN THIS ARGUMENT. SO STOP TRYING TO CHANGE MY MIND. PLEASE STOP EQUATING GOOD GUYS TO IDIOTS.
       
      gunner77, Feb 24, 2017
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      Your logic is argumentum ad absurdum. Please step up your game. Use real logic with real facts and before you spout anymore idiot things people do with guns please have someone show you the real facts about guns. Then with an open mind go to a shooting range in a controlled environment and empty a couple magazines into a paper target. Then come back and tell me how it was the worst time of your life and how you still don't see why people enjoy it. Where as my response will be I know exactly how you feel, because I never could see how someone could go golfing and chase a ball around a golf course. I went four times after I had that opinion. It still hasn't changed. It wasn't the worst times of my life but it wasn't fun either. The point is I tried it and I don't try to convince anyone who golfs how horrible it is. In fact, if anything I praise them for having the skill and patience to golf.
       
      gunner77, Feb 24, 2017
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      @gunner77 you obviously don't know me and haven't read the thread. Because I am willing to bet I can out shoot you with your guns let alone mine.
       
      stumbler, Feb 24, 2017
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    Good guy with a gun.

    19-year-old man accidentally shoots friend in head in bedroom, police say
    Brandon Velez arrested Thursday on manslaughter charge

     
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      Idiots play with loaded guns just like idiots drive cars when their drunk.
       
      gunner77, Feb 24, 2017
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      It says right in the report that the boys were mishandling the firearm. I equate miss mishandling a firearm to being an idiot.
       
      gunner77, Feb 24, 2017
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    Good guy with a gun.

    KCSO reports 16-year-old shot himself in leg earlier today

     
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      I equate shooting oneself as being an idiot.
       
      gunner77, Feb 24, 2017
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    7 shot yesterday in Chicago

    CHICAGO Sun Times 02/22/2017, 11:48pm

    7 killed in city’s deadliest day of shootings this year

    Seven people were killed and another six were wounded in shootings Wednesday on the South and West sides of Chicago, marking the deadliest day of gunfire across the city so far this year.

    Four other days this year have seen five fatal shootings, including last Tuesday and Wednesday, according to Chicago Sun-Times data. The other bursts of killings happened on Feb. 5 and Jan. 21, when 25 people were shot — the highest single-day toll of gunshot victims.
     
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      Chicago has one of tbe strichtest gun control laws in the nation. Hmmmm? Doesnt stop the criminals. Highest gun related murder rate and strichtest gun control laws. Hmmmmm? Coincidence? Not exactly supporting your case for gun control.
       
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    God damn RandyKnight. I am so glad you are right. Ain't nobody being killed by a gun except in Chicago.
     
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    PS RandyKnight let's you and me lay down a marker right here.

    Trump said he was going to fix that didn't he?

    Yes or no?
     
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    See Stumbler, everyday lives are being saved by guns. You dont want to hear about it, but there are. I have my CWP. I am a good guy. As long as my rights are infringed upon, I have no beef with anyone. Before you or anyone forms a righteous opinion, gather some facts. First off, every one of those reports you acknowledged are idiots with guns. Second, if you say all gun owners are idiots because of a few reports of idiots with guns your logic is argumentum ad absurdum. A similar argumentum ad absurdum, would be to outlaw cars because all drivers ar idiots. Now, we know all to well, that there are idiot drivers. That fact, doesn't stop very many people from driving or owning a car. I can pull up report after report of incidents with guns. The Good Guys do not out number the bad guys, unfortunately. So with your logic we take the guns out of the citizens hand and trust our police and government to protect us? Good luck with that. I have been accused of burying my head in the sand, but that is utterly absurd. I love my country, but I certainly do not trust my government. I trust most police officers, just like I trust most people. I trust myself though, far more than either of those. I may someday be the last line of defense between life and death. It might be my life I save or it might be yours. Irony has a funny sense of humor. Like the store owner whose life was saved because a Good Guy with a gun ignored a sign saying no guns allowed. His opinion changed after looking down the barrel of a shotgun. Good Guy shot and killed the would be robber/possible murderer. Karma sometimes shows her face in the form of irony. Lol I sleep well at night knowing that I live in a country that I can protect my family, my friends, total strangers and myself... that I still have that option.
     
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      Excuse me As long my rights are not infringed upon.
       
      gunner77, Feb 24, 2017
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    And if you had bothered to actually read the thread you would know that has been my point all along. My grandmother taught me how to be safe with guns and how to shoot when I was 8 years-old. And I never thought I would see the amount of gun carelessness we have in this country now. Which is proof positive we have more "gun rights" in this country than we have gun sense and responsibility to go with them.

    We, and especially responsible gun owners, really need to stop this insane idea that a gun is an answer for everything and everyo9ne should own a gun because not everyone can be trusted to be safe and responsible with guns.

    I have offered this challenge many times before and haven't found any takers but lets see if you are willing to put your efforts where your mouth is.

    Pick a time frame like a week or a month and you put up all the instances you can find of someone's life being saved by a gun and I will put up all the gun accidents I can find and lets see who is right.

    Then should everyone own a gun?

    You just committed the logical fallacy you falsely accuse me of. Because I have never said any such thing as all gun owners are idiots. Because they I would also be calling myself an idiot.

    What I have been saying all along is we have too many idiots with guns and we have lost the respect that guns must have in order for people to be safe and responsible with guns.

    We need to get back to the most basic rule of a gun. Carelessness with a gun is never allowed. Not even once and not even for a second because people and especially little kids get killed in that fraction of a second of carelessness.

    So we need to get back to promoting gun safety and responsibility above gun ownership.

    Again if you had bothered to read the thread you would know how stupid this argument is. But just for you I will shoot it down again.

    Far more people own cars in this country than they do guns. Automobiles are absolutely essential to most people's lives while guns are not necessary. And there is and always has been a concerted effort to constantly reduce the number of automobile accidents up to and including prohibiting people who are careless and/or drunk drivers from operating automobiles.

    We require people who operate automobiles to have a license. And we require insurance on automobiles.

    And none of that is true for owning and operating guns which are designed to be lethal.

    Do it then. I would be interested in seeing what you come up with.

    Now this is kind of stupid. There are a lot more gun owners than there are criminals.

    Nope. Now once again you are just bullshitting because I have never said any such thing.

    My problem is gun carelessness.

    I hope you are not pushing the really stupid argument that people need to own guns in case they have to fight our government. Because if you are I just have one very simple question for you.

    Let's see here. We are talking jets and bombs, drones, machine guns, grenade launchers, and artillery versus rifles and hand guns. What is wrong with this picture?

    Now this could be true. I don't know you. But I do know statistically at least that if you have a gun in the house it is much more likely to be used to kill or injure an family member and/or friend or commit suicide.

    And while that might not apply to you it damn sure is true on a national basis as the statistics tragically prove.