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  1. NicoleDeLint

    NicoleDeLint Porn Star

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    Our constitution is an amazing document largely built upon the Federalist papers which are generally considered to be among the best works of political philosophy ever written .

    Not by a bunch of people self promoting so that they could protect their slaveholding interests and other petty interests
     
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  2. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    What is "cruel and unusual punishment?" What are "excessive fines?" Where does the United States Constitution give the Supreme Court the power to overturn popular legislation? Where does the Constitution even specify the number of Supreme Court justices?

    The question you end your comment with could have been asked of those who participated in the American Revolution.

    By the way, I regret the American Revolution. By every criteria I care about other than climate, I think Canada is a better country than the U.S. The only reason I stay here is that I would not move to another country unless I had a job waiting for me.
     
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      You contradict yourself constantly. I wonder about you. If you feel Canada is so much better than the USA, getting gainful employment there should not be a hindrance.
       
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  3. NicoleDeLint

    NicoleDeLint Porn Star

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    You know DL The more I think about it the more I think that you are and Oprah would be a cute couple. Sitting on the veranda in the morning with your coffee and orange juice reading the obituaries of the people that you dislike and hoping that enough of them will die
     
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  4. NicoleDeLint

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    This is becoming tiresome .

    If you want to move to Canada find a way Trudeau says that he is welcoming Americans who are disillusioned with Trump so go up there
     
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  5. Anytime300

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    So in other words distant lover you are an American in name only.
    Nice.
     
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  6. NicoleDeLint

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    I'm confused by DL s behavior. If he doesn't get his way he's just taking his football and moving to Canada if only he could .

    But by the prime minister's own words he can .

    I guess this is why I don't like liberals but he also believes in the racial supremacy of whites particularly Ashkenazi Jews who he claims to be the race best prepared to rule the world.

    This is not regular liberal behavior and it completely confuses me.
     
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  7. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    George Washington had no sons to inherit his crown, if he had one. What he did have was Mount Vernon to retire to. After eight years as president he decided that he had had enough stress, and that it was time to retire and let his slaves do the work.

    I think Washington is overrated. As a general he lost more battles than he won. He left no great written works of political philosophy the way Thomas Jefferson did.
     
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      He was a sharp dresser though...
      [​IMG]
       
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      He had 114 illegitimate children, and there was a son or two in the bunch.
       
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  8. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    You have difficulty understanding the complexity of my thinking. :p

    Nevertheless, I present my opinions clearly and document important factual assertions. :cool:
     
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  9. Distant Lover

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    I am as American as you are, not that I care. I am not a nationalist. Americans are allowed to have various opinions.

    I have a tempered optimism about the direction the electorate is moving in. A growing percentage of the population prefers socialism to capitalism.
     
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  10. Anytime300

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    Being American is more than just being born in the U.S. or being a citizen of the U.S.
    Being American is putting freedom above all else...
    Like freedom to move to Canada or freedom to express your socialist beliefs...
    Socialism doesn't work. And socialists are not the majority in the U.S. otherwise socailist Bernie would have won.
     
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  11. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    Clinton moved to the center and worked with Newt Gingrich and the republicans...
    They used a lot of newt's "Contract with America" plan.
     
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      The Clintons have never been leftists. More like right leaning centrists.
       
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      I always called Bill a "for profit" Democrat.....
      He was all for Business--small and large ---but I always like that he always demanded a safety net for the less fortunate...

      Hillary has been pulled way left of Bill but she seems to like it there....

      I have said if Bill could run again he would have to run as a republican....
      Dems have moved to far left for this time in our History.....maybe later but not yet...
       
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      They're Liberals and never represented the left. Sure they where left of the Republicans but never leftwing. Elitist Liberals that never paid more than lip service to the left.
       
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      I grew up around Bill---he has his faults as we all do but he is one hell of a man....

      Bill is liberal as to people's personal life but understands american capitalism and the establishment...

      Hillary tends to lean to revolutionist socialist bent as long as she can be on top of it...
      She has worked within the frame work but pulling stunts that see seems to always recover from..
      A lot of time she will use a lie when the truth works better but she has gotten to the point she does not know the difference between the two....
       
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  12. Distant Lover

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    Being American is more than just being born in the U.S. or being a citizen of the U.S.
    Being American is putting freedom above all else...

    - Anytime300

    OK big guy, where does the Constitution say that one needs to agree with a creed in order to be a citizen?
     
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  13. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    Globalism was taking over and companies where leaving the USA....
    the great Chin/American deal was in full force and we built china off the back of our middle class looking for cheaper goods..

    he also allowed an open border and the lower end worker got forced out....

    when lower end workers are replaced by those not want more, wadges do not go up--all the way up the latter...
     
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  14. NicoleDeLint

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    I know that a lot of people don't like Bill Clinton but I think that the George Herbert Walker Bush/Clinton era was in amazing. Time of economic growth .
    And yes the 94 elections forced Bill Clinton to make a choice between his own political career and the agenda of the left and he chose his own career. And I think that helped the economy.

    My biggest problem with Clinton was that he ran on the policy of being anti-China and completely abandoned it and really accelerated the growth of China .
     
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      and NAFTA.......
       
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  15. RandyKnight

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    DL will run you around in circles as long as you will let him.....
    a dog chasing his tail....

    but at least he uses some of his own words with all the cut and paste....
     
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  16. Distant Lover

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    Socialism doesn't work. And socialists are not the majority in the U.S. otherwise socailist [sic] Bernie would have won.

    - Anytime300

    The polls always had Bernie Sanders beating Trump by a higher percentage than Hillary did.

    Have you even read the Constitution? You said it is written in iron. I asked a number of specific questions that you did not answer.
     
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  17. Distant Lover

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    Answer my questions.
     
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  18. Distant Lover

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    DL will run you around in circles as long as you will let him.....
    a dog chasing his tail....

    but at least he uses some of his own words with all the cut and paste....

    - Randy Knight

    NicoleDeLint said that left wingers thwart the popular will when it is against them. I pointed out, using specific examples, that the left and the right do this on occasion

    Anytime300 claimed that the Constitution, which I do not pretend to respect, but will tolerate for now, made clear statements. When I asked questions that indicated otherwise, neither he nor NicoleDeLint answered me. Instead they give a version of the tired old taunt, "America, love it or leave it."
     
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  19. justpassingthru

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    Cutting taxes for the rich is a misnomer as what is rarely if ever mentioned is that at the same time they are closing tax loopholes that the wealthy have used to their advantage forever so in essence that tax cut is offset by fewer deductions and tax shelters ...

    I spent 10 years in court battling the government due to what they called tax avoidance and I called creative bookkeeping and they wrote the laws, I just used them to my advantage. They dug in for a number of reasons including my distaste for the government of the day at the time (Progressive Conservatives) AND their leader (Prime Minister) who I grew up with in the same neighborhood in Calgary and made his childhood a living hell some days lol.

    They wanted 5 to 10 and got 6 months house arrest on a CD and a 100K fine for good measure and then in their infinite wisdom approached me to pen the revision to that section and subsections of the tax code since no one knew more about it then me since it was the bane of my existence for that 10 years, and they paid me to do it. That loophole was welded shut due to that court battle and it worked out for me but there were some downright pissed off people that got trapped inside it as it was sealed lol. That revision carries my name and damn straight I am pretty fucking proud of myself for that and who says you can't take on big brother. Same thing with the American government that wanted to revoke my US citizenship but only stood a chance if I was convicted on the felony but plead down to a summary conviction that has since gone away and is not on my record. I surrendered my US passport for that 6 months, like I was going anywhere in the first place !!! Even when you win you lose lol.

    The point is you can make a difference if it means enough to you ... was it worth making lawyers rich, damn straight. I did a bit on a stretch until a higher court reversed the conviction on a non related issue and I could hold my own in "minimum security" lol but that would get old after a month ...
     
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  20. Anytime300

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    Jeez ok I left the chat distant Lover give me a second to respond.
     
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