1. HaroldShapiro

    HaroldShapiro Amateur Banned!

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    I have been using WinXP for fifteen years and it works perfectly. In the year 2015 Microsoft made an
    agreement with Google to stop updating their browser "Chrome" unless the users upgrade their computer's
    operating system to Window 7 or higher.

    Well, the agreement finally happened in April 2017.

    Today is 19 April 2017 and I am no longer able to update my Google Chrome browser.

    That last version for WinXP is 49. The current version of Google Chrome is 57.

    Soon, websites like YouTube will demand that I upgrade my operating system and browser before I'm allowed to view a video.

    http://www.redmondpie.com/google-to-discontinue-chrome-on-windows-xp-vista-os-x-10.8-and-earlier/

    It appears that Microsoft has formed a monopoly with Google and YouTube.

    Microsoft says to them, "When we all require computer owners to upgrade their operating system it will
    be a windfall of profits what is worth millions of dollars in revenue for us. Simply require that your users
    upgrade their computer's operating system and you will be handsomely rewarded."
     
  2. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    I use Windows XP, and it does what I want a PC system to do. I just wish it did it better. Discontinuing the maintenance of older Windows systems is planned obsolescence.
     
  3. clarise

    clarise Precious princess

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    XP had to go, and everyone knew it. This isn't about forcing people to upgrade. It's one small part of a bigger phase-out.

    Microsoft is in the midst of deprecating many foundation technologies. XP is the last operating system that relied on some of the technologies that are being retired. ActiveX, for instance, which is integral to the XP UI, is being retired.

    Their older stuff is too difficult to maintain and keep secure. Too many weaknesses and instabilities.

    They stopped selling it in home and business desktops two years ago, but they had to keep maintaining it all this time because it is all over the place in terminal machines. ATM's, search kiosks in malls and airports, and so on.

    But now that they're retiring many of the components on which the OS relies... it's time for the graveyard. The Google/Chrome agreement is not part of some larger plot. It's just a recognition of the reality that XP has to die.
     
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  4. shadow walker

    shadow walker Полковник

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    I have a very beefed up windows 7 but I rarely use a laptop or desktop.
     
  5. Rixer

    Rixer Horndog

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    Maybe time to get a new computer.
     
  6. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    when my win 7 computer went down I could have got another win 7 but decided to bite the bullet and buy
    what probably is my last computer.....

    I went with win 10 machine before 10 came out and upgraded to 10 as soon as i could....

    I also got a big clunky desktop so it would be easy to upgrade any hardware I might want or need to at some point....

    I am glad I did...

    dell inspire-----600 bucks...
    and I use a 32 inch TV monitor....

    with my 100mbs cable this thing is fast to me....
     
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  7. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    It would have been easier for Microsoft and better for Microsoft's customers for Microsoft to correct problems with Windows XP than to develop new systems and discontinue Microsoft XP.

    This is just a way to force millions of customers to buy new systems that have features they will never use.
     
  8. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    smart phones have more computing power than an xp machine....

    there are so few xp people out there it would cost a fortune to keep upgrading that system for a bunch of old fogies...

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  9. clarise

    clarise Precious princess

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    You can still get a new laptop with Win7 if you go to Dell and special order it. You'll pay a little extra. But Win7 is, hands down, the best OS they ever built. And Win10 (the default for new PC's) is still a fragile, messy piece of work that needs about 10 major revisions.

    EDIT - I'm hard on Win10. Probably to a fault. It's okay. I'm running crazy stuff on my machines. Not a home user.
     
  10. Wee Hector

    Wee Hector Porn Star

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    There are people still using MSDOS who think MS should cater for them. If you think that 640k of memory is sufficient then you shouldn't really be in control of a computer.
     
  11. clarise

    clarise Precious princess

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    +1

    I have an IBM Portable PC with MSDOS, 640kb memory, a built-in 4" amber cathode ray monitor, and two 5 1/4" floppy drives. (One for apps, and a second for storage. No hard disk.)

    The first commercial "laptop." It weighs more than 30 pounds.

    It still works, and I have a working copy of Lotus 123 that runs on a single floppy.

    I fire it up for guests. A real hoot.
     
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  12. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    I had one of those and a Kodak mini printer ----
    I ran a program that did supplemental retirement planning for Govt Workers....1987 I think....
    Go right to the offices and sign them up....
    It was the size of a portable typewriter...
     
  13. clarise

    clarise Precious princess

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    Yep, you obviously had one. Big beige thing with a fold-out keyboard, revealing the amber CRT and floppies.

    And weighs more than an old IBM Selectric.

    My Portable PC-XT still works. Haven't bothered to price it on E-Bay. Even if it were a collector's item, I probably wouldn't sell it.
     
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      Mine had the KB built in and the screen did flip up but it was the size of a portable typewriter...

      looked like this...maybe they where the 3 and 1/2 inch floppies...

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  14. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    this one sounds like what you had...

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  15. Clawk

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    I remember the first computer I ever used.

    It was a compact little IBM machine which fit in a room not much bigger than the apartment my family lived in at the time.

    My dad would take me and my siblings to the university on weekends where we could play with the computer. He would load up the Fortran cards and we could either play "Tic-Tac-Toe" or "Lunar Lander".

    You would sit at a Teletype machine and type in commands. The computer's response would be printed out on paper. Computers didn't use video screens back then. You communicated with them through a teletype machine.

    The Lunar Lander game was a lot of fun. It would print out the altitude of the lander, the amount of fuel you had left and the rate of decent and the rate of speed along an x-axis and y-axis over the landing area.

    You would then type in a command to burn the engines. You would tell it how long to burn the engines (usually about ten seconds at a time) and in what direction the thrusters needed to be pointed so you would land on the target area.

    It would then give you a new print out of your speed, altitude, rate of descent, location and fuel remaining on board. Then you would type in a new burn command.

    If you did it right the lander would gently set down in the landing area. If you slowed it down too fast, at too high of an altitude, you would run out of fuel and crash into the moon at a high speed.

    A few years later, when the Apollo 11 landed on the moon, I was very nervous about them using too much fuel too soon and crashing.
     
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  16. John227

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    My very first computer science course was in the late 1970's and my college was still using mainframes with punch cards. The teacher taught us BASIC.

    That same semester the college got a couple of dozen teletype machines. I programmed a Lunar Lander game using BASIC and played it on the TT machines. My first game was very simple. It was just straight up and down in 2 dimensions. I wrote a more complex version for 3 dimensions in which the thruster could be directed. I met my match when I tried to write an interplanetary lander game in which you could take off from one planet and land on another one. I couldn't get the gravities to work quite right. It was taking too much time away from my serious courses to fix. But it was fun to experiment.

    If I had had more encouragement and better insight into what computers and programming would become, I would have changed my major.
     
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  17. Undeniable

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    Microsoft did not abandon anything , they simply stopped support for an antiquated operating system that had it's time in the spotlight and served it's purpose but is outdated and time is better served supporting newer and far more powerful operating systems that are in all new machines .
    That one came from my IT guy who is a wizz on computers and has gotten us out of a pickle more than a few times with a few keystrokes that to me may as well have been speaking Greek but whatever he does seems to work in our favor . He can jamb signals with his inventory and says that xp is not longer relevant . I will take his word for it .
     
  18. Rufus_Cock

    Rufus_Cock Porn Star

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    LUDDITES!!!!

    Don't forget to roll the rock accross the cave door at night to stop the beasties getting in....

    I have to deal regularly with XP in medical equipment. The sooner it's dead the better.
     
  19. clarise

    clarise Precious princess

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    The two pix you've posted are several years younger than mine. One-color /80char LCD's were a huge innovation that reduced the weight.

    Maybe this weekend, if this thread is still alive, I'll work out a way to temporarily post a picture of my machine. But maybe not. In the VBulletin forum it was easy to temporarily load pix into albums and post them here in the forum for a couple days, and then delete them. Now in this Xenforo forum it is a lot harder to do that.
     
    1. RandyKnight
      I get the idea no big deal...

      If you hyperlink from a place you can delete there it will delete here using the Image function...
       
      RandyKnight, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:32 AM
  20. clarise

    clarise Precious princess

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    YES!

    Another excellent example of why XP is still around. Medical monitors are also essentially client terminals, and XP was the OS of choice for such equipment, for many years.

    Say what you will about XP's obsolescent features, it is perhaps the most lean and stable OS Microsoft has ever built.... as long as you keep it off the Internet!

    I have lots of machines.

    My accounting system is still running on a Dell Precision Tower, with Windows NT 4.0. The machine is seventeen years old and refuses to die. It does not have USB. However, it does have a working 100MB Iomega drive! (Remember those?)
     
    1. RandyKnight
      I have an E-Machine that is XP and is still perfect but I will not put it on the internet.....
       
      RandyKnight, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:33 AM