If their decision is strictly based on "legal" issues, then it will not stop at under-aged stories alone. To be "legally" correct in a global business world, there are several other themes that will also have to come down, specifically any theme and/or story that depicts any illegal activity. They did not take down all themes with depictions of illegal activity, only the one theme that has been the focus of serious debate (and subsequent emails to the owners of the website with demands that these stories be banned). Am I the only one who thinks that is a bit odd? Out of all the themes that come under the 'legal issue' statement, they chose ONE theme instead of all of them to get rid of? Seems to me that if they were going to be politically correct and globally correct with legal issues, they would be like all the other sites and also get rid of all the stories that depict any illegal activity. Of course, I don't have the inside story so all of this talk by me and everyone else is merely speculation as to why they did what they did. *shrugs* Maybe all those business classes aren't helping me :excited:

 

and has been stated, what about the threads? say we want to have a frank and open discussion about the ramifications of underage sex? Am I allowed to tell you that I lost my virginity at 13? and with a 15 year old girl?.....is it ok for me to start a story with...She was 18, but i remember the first time i saw her when she was 14 etc etc....be interesting as you say Nicola

 

It really was his own fault he got banned. I don't think everyone who writes a pedo story is a pedo, but if you say you've had sex with your underage daughter's friends and admitted to getting hj and bjs from teen girls in a movie theater, true or not, you're stupid. So it really was either get banned for being a pedophile or get banned for being a lying idiot.

 

so?.....is it ok to write
Although she had just turned 18 yesterday, dressed in a short plaid skirt and white blouse, Emily could still pass as a 13 year old schoolgirl...etc etc etc
thats ok?

 

lol... true true.

 

It's really very simple. The rule is...

In The Sex Stories Section...

View attachment

NO CP!!!!


​

 

That rule may be simple, but it is not DESCRIPTIVE when it comes to writing. Yes, simply put, no underaged characters in the stories. But does that include ONLY if the characters are involved in sexual activity, or does that mean that there can not be any character in the story under a specified age at all? If a writer were to create a story about a man who has an affair with the babysitter, can the children be mentioned in the story even though they are not part of the sexual relationship? Or do ALL characters, regardless of what part they play in the storyline, have to be above a specific age.

Some sites that say "nothing involving anyone under 18 years of age" will allow underaged characters to be mentioned so long as they are not engaging in sexually explicit situations. Other sites will not allow ANY character under the age of 18 to be mentioned AT ALL anywhere in the storyline, regardless of what part they play in the story. I had one of my stories get rejected on another site because of this sentence: "My parents were nothing more than teenagers when I was born." That sentence does not state any age, and an 18 and 19 year old is STILL a teenager, so technically, there WAS no underaged persons involved in the storyline, but the moderator of the site was of an opinion that it implied underage and rejected the story.


As you can see, the rule is not as 'simple' as you may think. It leaves a lot of grey area that must be detailed out. Simply saying "nothing under the age of 18 in the story" leaves a lot open for interpretation, something that will cause even more questions if the 'simple rule' you described is not fleshed out to detail EXACTLY what is and is not allowed when it comes to creating a story.

 

I think You may have Dominated the Argument!

I have Many fantasies, a few of them not legal, moral, and in many cases NOT Possible (such as becoming the pilot of a Starfighter, or Alyssa Milano having passionate sex with me, and then wanting to have me move in with her, and then she keeps me in a manner that I could become accustomed to!).

So I do not think people should be banned for writing Fictional stories! Posts 'bragging' about illegal activities, those are another matter. I am concerned we should avoid any 'slippery slope' by banning, perhaps it is better that they be allowed to post. Then IF they commit real world crimes there is a trail that can be followed. Often it is worse to force such people further into the 'dark' its is better that they be kept out in the light.

I do understand the intrest of the mods, and many fellow posters, and even lurkers that the mods and members be self policing, rather than attract unwanted attention of the authorities.

 

While I agree with you on this, might I ask do you actually do ANYTHING else on this site?

 

Speaking of sick.

 

No. he's the neighborhood narc.

 

You are making something complicated that really is very simple.

And exactly how are my shemale fantasies anywhere nearly as sick as pedophilia? All of the shemales that I fantasize about fucking are all over 18.

 

The International Classification of Diseases used to include homosexuality. It's hardly reliable as a source.

As for me being on an ego trip (a phrase that says a lot about you) I'm just providing my opinion, backed up by my knowledge. Paedophilia (shame you Americans can't even spell) means the love of (or sexual desire for) children. The DSM (an American source) suggests that paedophilia is only a disease if it leads to criminal actions or an inability to function of the sufferer. Now, my view is that the moral choice to act interposes itself between the desire and the outcome; if not, then no-one can ever be guilty of paedophilic crime, since they will be insane.

You don't believe that? No problem.

 

I can only assume by your comments, which shows a complete lack of knowledge on the subject, that you have neither written anything nor ran a website, forum, or the like, because if you had, then you would know that it is NOT 'very simple.' Even the mods have said they cannot properly police the site without further clarification, and thus have not only asked for such clarification from the administrators, but are having to implement their own judgment when it comes to removing such things from the forum. So it's not just me who thinks this way, it's a lot of other members, including mods.

 

Just to play devil's advocate here:

One definition I found for pedophilia is "an older person who is attracted to young children."

Does anyone else find this definition to be extremely vague and far too subjective? By definition, and 16 year old who is attracted to a 14 year old is a pedophile.

Another definition I found is "an adult who is attracted to young children."

Again, very vague and subjective.

Most states' law defines an adult as anyone over the age of 18 (yet the legal drinking age in every state is 21, but that's a discussion for a different thread). So what happens if a 17 year old and a 16 year old are dating and having sex (perfectly fine) but then their birthdays come around and its an 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old and suddenly its pedophilia!

Also, how do you possibly justify someone in their 30s being sexually attracted to an 18 year old who just yesterday was a 17 year old as not being pedophilia? Its an older person attracted to a much younger person, so shouldn't that be considered pedophilia as well? Suddenly being 18 one day makes it ok when just the day before it would've been considered statutory rape in many states and would have put the older person in jail and forced to register as a sex offender? What's the logic in that?

Human beings are the only animal in the world that distinguish certain ages at which point its suddenly ok to be having sex. You'll never, ever see any other animal out there reach the point of being able to reproduce and go "nope you're not old enough, wait another 3-4 years before you can start." Part of that obviously is that humans have a much greater capacity for reason above the base instincts than other animals and we understand that just because someone starts puberty and is thus able to reproduce that it is not something they should do. The body, both human and otherwise, is still maturing when puberty starts and it is dangerous to development to start reproducing.

Another part is that societal and religious beliefs that have been ingrained into the human psyche throughout history have condemned the act of older with younger, especially the American Puritan (or is it Purityrannical?) heritage. However if you dig deep enough you'll find many instances of pedophilia in many religious texts from all over the world, as well as among the clergy (as we all know), political leaders, celebrities and wealthy individuals both contemporary and historical.

That being said, and now for my actual viewpoint, when an older person actually does specifically take advantage of a younger person it is a pretty disgusting act, no matter what age the people actually are. It could be a 45 year old taking advantage of a 14 year old, or a 26 year old taking advantage of a 19 year old. It doesn't matter, the act itself is malicious and conniving and those who do it should be given their due.

Personally I feel that every single person is, by the above definitions, a pedophile because every single person has looked at someone much younger than them who is of age where they have at least started puberty and thought "they are cute/pretty/hot." If you haven't, you either live under a rock or are a liar. The human mind is attracted to things that are pleasing, and even 13 and 14 year olds can be attractive. Look at the way teenagers dress, they're trying to attract attention to themselves, so how can you be faulted for having naughty thoughts about them when that's specifically the kind of thought they are trying to generate? That thought is an automatic reaction to what is being seen. No, a pedophile is a person who has an overly developed obsession with much younger teens or pre-teens, or who actually goes through with the act, not someone who simply looks at a younger person and thinks that they are cute or pretty.

 

With the current banning of some longtime posters I'm now beginning to see that it isn't as cut and dried as I originally thought. I know of a poster who once admitted in the Sexuality section to have committed a sexual act on a child when he himself was also a child. That particular poster has never done anything like that to anyone underage since. Are these new rules now going to be used against such posters as him?

 

ill never understand pedophiles..
i dont get what is sexually atractive about a child..

 

I completely respect what 33black is doing but to be honest you're going about it the wrong way, accusing EVERYONE that disagrees with you of being a pedofile is about the most damn right childish things I've ever seen, its like saying "well I know you are but what am I" and don't even get me started on the damn posters that were every 2nd comment for the first 6 pages of this topic I mean come on, the first ones were funny but after that they got childish and don't even get me started on the spelling and grammar, thats right specialKay That is how grammar is spelled.

All that aside however I respect what you're doing but I have to say, fantasy is fantasy (But only to mentally stable people who can distinguish reality and fiction) and the lumping together of every person to either write or read a story with some sick individuals is a stupid thing to do. I mean I've clicked into a few underage stories before because I didn't notice the tags, which in all fairness I am telling the truth about, and most of the time I'll either skip past the underage part or leave the story altogether, just because there is a underage part to the story doesn't always mean its fully underage.

Also before I get wrongfully accused of anything, I am 21 years of age and the youngest person i have ever slept with is 17 while I was also 17 which is perfectly legal In Ireland.


*phew long rant post over*

 

The number of federal child porn cases has exploded during the last 15 years as Congress passed mandatory five-year minimum sentences. The FBI and federal authorities have declared such investigations a priority.
There are not that many Adult forums like this site. The FBI has agents looking at this site 24-7. If you don't think this is true, than you are just fooling yourself. More than likely this is the reason for the changes around here.

 

thats just fucking creepy in my opinion pedophiles and rapists should get put in prison for life theres no need for those people to be on the streets