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  1. springsteen79

    springsteen79 xnxx lifer

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    I would also like to know more.
     
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    I almost bought a prostate massager last weekend. Slender, long handle, several vibrating speeds. Looked like a nice toy. I was looking for things I could wear in public. I think it was about $35.
     
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      You walk around with something like that up your ass in public, people are going to keep asking you if that's your phone vibrating.
       
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  3. Pyroperc

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    I have came a couple times from anal stim alone. I found i need a thick enough toy to stim my prostate right. Plenty of vibe helps. My toys (plural) are 1.5 inches at the thickest parts. Check out my pics of them in my profile.
    For ease of communication ill say it like this. If i fuck my ass fast n deep i feel filled up and stimulated and then the orgasm starts to build. The build up takes longer than normal stimulation for me but wow.
    I guess for me its thickness, speed/depth of rhythm, and power of vibration that provides my anal orgasms.
    Mayb try a thicker toy? Oh length is definately important but i found thickness to be more decisive.
    Sorry so wordy. Hope this helps.
     
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    I have not had an exclusively anal orgasm. I have had orgasms with prostate massage accompanied by a blow job. That has been the best orgasms. My wife used to use play with my ass a lot more than she does now. She is barely interested in sex. It's been a long time since she has rimmed me, fingered my ass or used a dildo. Someday again, hopefully.
     
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    I think about it........ she doesn't!
     
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  6. Hush

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    So should I post the detailed response, or the short one?

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    The short one! The short one! LOL!
     
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  8. VenusInFurze

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    Definitely detailed. This is something I want to know more about and you're one hell of an educator.
     
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  9. Hush

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    Your loss, I even had pictures to the MANY internal glands and structures that will induce very interesting responses.

    In any case, though granted female, I have had "zero-contact orgasms," and I have had orgasms from pain to places other than my genitals. The point of that being that the prostate (and seminal vesicles, cowper glands and other areas) are not really wired for what we think of as "pleasure," let alone an orgasm regarding pressure or contact. That said, just like my statements about myself, humans have the capability of shifting pain, temperature and pressure sensations to pleasure. So, though prostate/seminal vesicle play is actually painful (most men when they first experience it find it very uncomfortable to even painful), over time and coupled with a desire to push the point, you can/will turn those negative sensations to positive. Over a long enough time (and a lot of it involves a mental rewiring), it can even generate an involuntary (as in not traditionally induced) orgasm.

    However, just like all things, some men will find they can eventually do it, and some determine they cannot. How much of that has to do with their commitment is debatable.

    Hush....an alias
     
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  10. Hush

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    I'll try and make a second post in a bit.

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    I've only had one once, and it was incredible. Don't really know how, the guy I was with wasn't hung or anything, he just hit something and next thing I knew, my knees were covered in my own cum.
     
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  12. Hush

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    Okay, so the long version in addition to the above:

    First off, lets mention some of the primary glands and their placement (to be noted later).

    This first image shows the primary structures that contribute to ejaculate volume (yet are not well shown as to location).
    Those being:
    * The vas deferens which pumps sperm to the ejaculatory duct, and more importantly to the discussion, the ampulla (large portions beside seminal vesicles) which stores sperm ready for use.
    * The bulbourethral or "cowper" glands which manufactures a small amount of lubricating fluid for the urethra, aids in binding the mix and neutralizes the acidic nature of urine (in that it can harm sperm) and is supplemented by the Littre (small glands in the urethra not shown).
    * The seminal vesicles which contributes the most to ejaculatory fluid (not the prostate as most think).
    * Finally the prostate which contributes a smaller portion of sperm protecting fluid, and contributes to the ejaculation itself by contracting.

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    Other nerve, musculature and other structures we'll avoid for the time being though they contribute both to the sensation and intensity of ejaculation. Further, the Vas Deferens which transfers sperm and has a musculature all around it is something that you'll not manipulate. So for our discussion we'll only focus upon the prostate, seminal vesicles, ampulla of the vas deferens, and bulbourethral glands as a point worth noting.

    As to the contributing percentage of volume to an ejaculation, it roughly works out as follows:
    Testes/Vas Deferens: 2-5%
    Seminal Vesicles: 65-75%
    Prostate: 25-30%
    Bulbourethral Glands: Less than 1% (however, don't discount these in sexual play)
    Littre (urethral glands): Negligible

    So lets see if we can find some better images to accurately locate these structures:

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    The Bulbourethral Glands though contributing seemingly virtually nothing to this mix I want to touch on (hehe) first in that they are the most overlooked location for generating physical pleasure. Literally, unlike pressing on the prostate or seminal vesicles, applying pressure to them can cause an intense physical sensation both before and at the point of orgasm (though in actuality might really stimulate certain nerve bundles).

    Taught to me a long time ago by Mees Sindy Star of Bangkok to help expedite a male's orgasm, if you press to the base of your cock at the sides, and then down (often feeling their pubic arch to the outside of your fingers), you yourself will note the sensation (others doing it look for their reaction). You're not actually pressing them, yet when a man is erect by pressing there the structures of the penis will apply pressure. (You can more directly access them by pressing to the sides of the perineum, or even more so through the anus and into the rectum). By massaging them alone, with an erection (as that moves everything into position), a gentle milking of the penis will cause them to expel slightly, and encourage the littre, prostate and seminal vesicles to ebb. Hence, increasing the amount of "pre-cum."

    WARNING: Pre-ejaculate often contains sperm, and will also contain HIV and other STDs if they are present. So don't consider it safe for contraception or disease.

    That said, during masturbation, or while giving/receiving a hand/blow-job, or even during vaginal/anal sex (typically riding the man), pressing, massaging or vibrating the bulbourethral glands will generate such an intense sensation that it will expedite the man's orgasm quickly, help make it very intense, and even help to increase the volume of the expulsion slightly. Think of it this way... A 15-minute plus hand-job turns into a 1-2 minute one that is incredibly intense. So do not neglect occasionally manipulating these glands.

    The Prostate: That's the biggie right? The one that everyone manipulates, "milking the prostate" a common term, and supposedly causes an "anal orgasm" or less impressive increased ebbing of pre-cum. Well, yes and no, and more true to the point not really.

    Besides only roughly a 1/4 contribution of its own unique and required fluids to the final expulsion (not a lot huh?), it is where 99% of the ejaculate must merge together and pass through, and more importantly helps "pump" it all forcefully through the urethra, while at the same time sealing off the bladder. Unlike the prostatic tissue in a woman which is spongy, a man's is much more dense/firm and defined, and surrounded by muscle to help squeeze it and force the mix of semen out.

    That said, most men find firm pressure to the prostate unpleasant to even painful. Think about it, if you poke firm muscle, or a firm/dense organ like your kidney, it hurts and cramps. Now that's not saying that you cannot get used to it and even come to like it, and who knows, perhaps even cause the area to begin cramping/flexing simulating an orgasm, yet it is not quite the same as the complex process which makes up a typical orgasm.

    The Ampulla of the Vas Deferens is where sperm that is ready to be expelled is stored, old dead sperm absorbed and so on. (Note its location to the Prostate and more importantly Seminal Vesicles). Sperm makes up at best 5% of the total volume of ejaculate, so we're not getting a lot out of them. However, in that during an orgasm the length of the Vas Deferens being smooth muscle pumps replacement sperm up from the Epididymis, the volume can be increased slightly during partial or halted orgasms.

    You have perhaps noticed it in the past. You're just about to cum and something stops you, and you feel a pulsing or light throbbing from your anus, perineum, and deep in your abdomen. Though perhaps partially the muscles surrounding the prostate, some of it no doubt is the Vas Deferens working to send sperm from the Ampulla into the Prostate, and refill it. The Ampulla I can only assume will stretch some (though maybe not), yet at the least I'd suspect sperm floods the prostate yet is not ejected making room for more.

    The Seminal Vesicles by far produce the greatest portion of the ejaculate, and for you cock-suckers, where things change to affect flavor. They have a bit of smooth muscle, yet also rely upon muscles around the prostate and so on. However, when discussing "so called" prostate massage, this is where we find the impressive aspects like significant ebbing, increased volume and so on to originate from. Not the Prostate.

    Make note as well that they are "close ended." Meaning, the fluid they contain can only go out, but, they also stretch, and that is how we can improve volume.

    Prostate Massage is typically shown like this in diagrams:

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    What these diagrams are actually meant for in most cases is actually checking the prostate for hard lumps, size/swelling and so on associated with cancer, prostatitis, etc.. HOWEVER, either using fingers or various toys and vibrators, folks will gently, and that is IMPORTANT in that you can easily do serious damage to a lot of things in this area, either stroke down or make small circular motions and gently press to inspire the prostate to constrict, and expel partially its fluid and whatever gets pulled out with it. Folks talk about pressing it hard or violently to "squeeze out" its contents, yet that is really not going to happen in that it would be like squeezing a plum to get out the juice, and what happens to the meat then?

    Never the less some men claim that done to their liking, they will orgasm from prostate massage...

    I however do not believe that. I do believe that they can truly orgasm, and can have greater volume and more intensity... Yet I do not believe it comes from working the prostate in and of itself.

    So, lets look at a recognized toy for this and their depictions on working the "male g-spot."

    This is one of the popular Aneros Prostate massagers:

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    It is simply hard plastic (sometimes with a softer covering), the tip to massage the "prostate" (not really), a belly to press to the cowper gland during contractions, and a ball to press externally to the perineum. Once inside however it looks a bit different on what it contacts:

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    Note where the tip of the head is pressing, the Seminal Vesicles intersection and along with it the Ampulla of the Vas Deferens. As you tense then relax contracting your sphincter, this happens:

    [​IMG]

    With that in mind, yet realizing where the tip rides, the motion besides increasing pressure to the cowper/bulbourethral glands, the prostate, the perineum (which will make sense shortly), the tip also draws down over the seminal vesicles and AoVD milking them, and conversely forcing what is contained back up.

    With all of that in mind, we need to come to a sudden halt and consider the wiring of this area. That being the Pudendal Nerve.

    The Pudendal Nerve and its connected branches is what sends signals back and forth to the spine from S2-S4 to everything we have talked about above:

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    Clearly, as we manipulate each of these areas, as muscles contract and so on, this vast system of nerves comes into play, and nerves (like the rest really) are delicate. Yet more than anything, THEY are what we are really stimulating to have an orgasm from this. Not simply mashing and grinding to a pulp some magical, firm gland.

    As you can see this all gets very complex, very quickly, and we have barely begun to touch on this. So with all we now know in mind (and realizing there is much more, and the whole process of an orgasm is complex), what say I get to the point and explain how "I" manipulate these areas when asked (which is rare, and not my favorite thing to do).

    If I am trying to help a man have an orgasm from this area, I do so like this:

    Though I will work him if he wishes to lay over pillows or some such face down, or on all fours, I prefer that he be somewhat on his back. I say somewhat in that I do not want him laying flat on his back, nor do I want him sitting up straight, yet reclining. Ideally, he should be leaned back at a 45 degree angle or some such, and the reason for that is I don't want his abdominal muscles taunt and stretched, or bound up and constricted. I want him to be able to "crunch" which when it comes to his orgasm, will intensify it.

    So a recliner or soft chair works best. Those with arms better. I want his tailbone at the edge of the cushion, his thighs spread and draped over the arms (so back and up), and him reclining yet not stretched out.

    From that position I have access to all of him. His arms and legs, chest and belly, and to reach them I can drag my breasts over him. More so, I have clear access to his cock, balls, inner thighs, perineum and anus. The inner thighs comes into play in the beginning, in that the very set of nerves we mentioned above branch into the inner thighs. So, I can begin stimulating the entire area and all we're getting to via the thighs as well, so it makes a nice foreplay start that is directly connected.

    The BIG question is however, what can he take in his bottom? Oh sure, I could just lube up, ball up my fist and ram it... and when he stops screaming then get to work... Or I can bypass all the drama and ask in that to reach as deep as I need to go, I will very likely need to use 3 or 4 fingers due to my hands being average. If that wont work then I need a toy, and a curved g-spot or prostate vibrator will work "okay", but fingers are best in that you can feel what you're doing/touching.

    Also, a rubber glove in this case covered with quality lube is the way to go. Besides being cleaner, it means sharp nails, abrasive fingerprints (why it burns when someone sticks their finger in your ass) and so on won't harm him, it will make entry easier, and is just better all around.

    Okay, lets get started.

    ...and I'm going to pause here, and will wrap up the actual technique tomorrow. It is not as simple as most make it out to be.

    Hush....an alias
     
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      Very Good Class, thank You. B.
       
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    Omg... weve been schooled big time. Nice...xo
     
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    I have tried one of the prostate massagers , believe me I REALLY tried it and didn't have much luck. However, I have had some luck using a large dildo. I have an 8 in her, thick that I will suction to the shower or wall. By using not just a thrusting motion but also a rotation with my hips I have had exquisite sensations.
    I have made myself leak larger amounts of cum and I have also orgasmed. I think that I have also leaked a great deal of cum without orgasm and have cum without ejaculation.
    It's not easy to make happen, and I can't always do it but when I can it is great.
     
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  15. Hush

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    I've not forgotten this, and will try and wrap it up with my techniques after I take care of a few things ;) ;) ;) this morning.

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  16. Dominic kc

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    Wow, that was the absolute most informative bit of knowledge that I have seen about the prostate and inner workings in one place. I hAve searched for about a year now and this by far the most useful available. Thank you.
     
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  17. Pyroperc

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    And i thought i was informed lol.
    Found if i let my ass hang, as she describes, everytime i contract the sensations r amazing. Very well put together @Hush
     
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  18. brassnut

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    Wow def a great read so far and very interesting
     
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  19. springsteen79

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    Great to see you around @brassnut.
     
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  20. brassnut

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    I read silently in the background and you may never know where I pop up lol
     
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