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  1. justpassingthru

    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked Banned!

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    Kim Jong-nam murder: Woman held over assassination of North Korean dictator's brother- amid claims he 'begged Kim Jong-un to spare his life'

    Kim Jong-nam wrote to Kim Jong-un in 2012 asking his half-brother and the recently anointed dictator of North Korea to spare his life and that of his family, the head of South Korea's National Intelligence Service revealed on Wednesday.

    It comes as new pictures of a woman alleged to have been linked to the assassination team that killed the older brother of North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un in Kuala Lumpur have been released by Malaysian media.

    Kim Jong-nam, 45, died on Monday after collapsing at Kuala Lumpur International Airport while waiting to board a flight back to Macau, where he was living in exile. He was apparently sprayed with a substance of some sort.
     
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      If the world's elites are smart, they'll forget Donald Trump and concentrate all their energy on this guy. He is probably the most dangerous man in the world.
       
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      Smokescreen!
       
      anon_de_plume, Feb 21, 2017
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      @Mr Smith 36
      You've gotta be shittin' us......."If we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them?"...says Donny Dumpf.

      [​IMG]
       
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      We should use our nukes. On N.Korea.
       
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    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked Banned!

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    There is a strange new twist to this story that is either the worst lie one has ever made OR someone that took one for the team without even knowing it.

    Apparently one of the two women in this story was hired to take put in a hidden camera prank where they spray water at some unsuspecting person and watch for the reaction as it is all being filmed. Supposedly when they got to Kim Jong-nam the water bottle was switched out for the chemical that we now know killed him quickly.
     
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  3. slutwolf

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    Yeah , was reported as that right from the get go here.
     
    1. justpassingthru
      You guys get better news reports there apparently. Shit is so filtered or watered down here unless it has Trump in the headlines.

      I did take one of the earliest reports though to post and just saw this on the evening NBC news tonight so even they are a couple days behind ...
       
      justpassingthru, Feb 18, 2017
    2. slutwolf
      Yeah , we had reports with live coverage , including footage from the scene , almost immediately.

      We do seem to have the best news hounds around , and reporters in all parts ,
      and they very rarely get it wrong.
      So by today , it was old news , LOL ,
      not even news.
       
      slutwolf, Feb 18, 2017
    3. slutwolf
      North Korean representative turned up "very quickly" to claim the body,
      but
      Malaysian authorities refused.

      Obviously supreme leader didn't want any tests etc. done.

      Wouldn't be the first family member he's had murdered.
      At least one uncle.
       
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    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked Banned!

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    Poison used to kill Kim Jong Nam believed to be ricin or tetrodotoxin
    KUALA LUMPUR/BANGKOK (THE STAR/ASIA NEWS NETWORK, AFP) - Malaysian authorities have completed an autopsy on Kim Jong Nan, the half-brother of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, who was assassinated at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) on Monday, and it is believed that the poison used to kill the 45-year-old has been identified.

    In a story that could be cribbed straight from a spy novel, intelligence chiefs in South Korea say female agents dispatched by their secretive northern neighbour administered the lethal dose, with reports suggesting a toxin was sprayed in his face.

    Among the possible poisons are ricin, a lethal chemical found in the seeds of castor oil plants or tetrodotoxin, which is the killer ingredient in puffer fish.

    The former is a slow working poison while tetrodotoxin is known to paralyse and kill victims fairly quickly.

    Sepang OCPD Asst Comm Abdul Aziz Ali, who left the Hospital Kuala Lumpur mortuary at around 7.50pm on Wednesday (Feb 15) in an unmarked car, confirmed that the post-mortem had concluded.

    But he declined to reveal when the remains would be claimed.

    From the courtiers of Ancient Greece to Soviet spies and maybe now North Korean agents, poison has a long history as a weapon of murder, favoured by assassins for its stealthy delivery of the fatal blow.

    A would-be poisoner can choose from a catalogue of deadly chemicals, some of which are relatively easy to obtain.

    Ricin – naturally occurring in castor oil plant seeds – and thallium (rat poison) are notorious for their murderous properties.

    Arsenic delivers a slow and miserable death, while strychnine induces extreme body spasms as the victim’s respiratory system collapses.

    But “cyanide is the fastest killer and the easiest to detect, its pathology appears all over the body,” said Porntip Rojanasunan a forensic expert and adviser to Thailand’s Justice Ministry.

    She said the victim’s “bright red blood” in post-mortem is the telltale sign of a potential cyanide poisoning.

    Other chemicals such as potassium can cause “an extreme heart arrhythmia.. and can lead to a heart attack very quickly.”

    Slow-acting poisons may allow assailants to slink away from the crime scene undetected. But chemical compounds are not easy to store or handle and many carry a giveaway residue, smell or colour that makes them hard to conceal, Porntip added.

    Tales of poisonings – real or imagined – have formed their own mythology.

    Poisoning has become a byword for backroom scheming by treacherous political rivals, revenge and cold-blooded murder. Shakespeare took to the theme, with a penchant for poison-tipped endings for his characters, while Snow White’s demise after eating the poison apple became a cautionary tale on jealousy.

    In real-life, academics still debate whether it is was arsenic or the asp that did for the Cleopatra, toxic wine that killed Alexander the Great or poisonous secretions in his wallpaper that accounted for Napoleon.

    Anguished housewives of Victorian Britain earned notoriety for dosing the food or drink of brutish husbands with arsenic.

    More recently poison featured prominently in Soviet-era tradecraft. In 1978 Bulgarian dissident Georgy Markov died after receiving a fatal dose of ricin delivered through the tip of an umbrella on a London street. His killer has never been caught.

    Moscow was accused of carrying out an assassination on British soil in 2006 when tea laced with highly-radioactive Polonium-210 was served to ex-Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, condemning him to a slow death.

    In Asia, members of a shadowy Japanese cult dropped plastic bags of liquid sarin, a nerve agent, on packed Tokyo subway trains in 1995, killing more than a dozen people.

    Nine years later Indonesian rights campaigner Munir Said Thalib was killed after being poisoned on a flight from Jakarta to Amsterdam.

    If Seoul’s spy chief is right, North Korea now appears to have added a new chapter to the chilling history of poison.
     
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  5. slutwolf

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    holy fuck
    VX nerve agent a WOMD used to assassinate him

    IF the two women who did the deed were in fact tricked into playing a prank , ah LA reality TV style.
    How'd they not suffer ?

    must go look it up
     
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    VX (IUPAC name: O-ethyl S-[2-(diisopropylamino)ethyl] methylphosphonothioate), an extremely toxic organophosphate, is a tasteless and odorless liquid with an amber-like color that severely disrupts the body'snervous system and is used as a nerve agent in chemical warfare.

    Ten milligrams is sufficient for it to be fatal through skin contact and the median lethal dose for inhalation is estimated to be 30–50 mg·min/m3.

    As a chemical weapon, it is classified as a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) by the United Nations Resolution 687. The production and stockpiling of VX exceeding 100 grams per year was outlawed by theChemical Weapons Convention of 1993. The only exception is for "research, medical or pharmaceutical purposes outside a single small-scale facility in aggregate quantities not exceeding 10 kg per year per facility".[4]

    The VX nerve agent is the best-known of the V-series of nerve agents
    and is considered an area denial weapon due to its physical properties.

    It is far more potent than sarin, another well known nerve agent toxin, but works in a similar way.

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    With its high viscosity and low volatility, VX has the texture and feel of motor oil. This makes it especially dangerous, as it has a high persistence in the environment. It is odorless and tasteless, and can be distributed as a liquid, either pure or as a mixture with a polymer in the form of thickened agent, or as an aerosol.

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    , the latter resulting in flaccid paralysis of all the muscles in the body. Sustained paralysis of the diaphragm musclecauses death by asphyxiation.
     
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  7. freethinker

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    I think you meant VX...That was the report I saw.

    There are antidotes but they must be taken before or very soon after exposure. If there was an antidote and they took it right before the attack, they would have been protected. And some agents dissipate very rapidly on exposure to air, making them hard to trace and less likely to affect an unintended target (bystander, etc).
     
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    1. slutwolf
      Yes , I misheard :)
      Thought I'd corrected quick enough.
      about a minute

      Doesn't look like it dissipates quickly
       
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      Thank you @freethinker I have been wondering about this myself.
       
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  8. slutwolf

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    That's a fucking dangerous substance to carry and use in a crowded airport.

    Not the sort of thing you'd give to random strangers to do a prank ,
    unless you wanted them to die also.

    Or , you also tricked them into taking the antidote.

    ?
    or did they just get very lucky :rolleyes:
     
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  9. slutwolf

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    Kim killing suspect paid $90 to take part in 'TV prank': reports
    AFP on February 26, 2017, 8:35 am

    Kuala Lumpur (AFP) - Two women being held over the assassination of Kim Jong-Nam said Saturday they thought they were taking part in a prank video, with one of them reportedly telling a senior diplomat she was paid just RM400 ($90) for her role.
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    relevant clips:

    Indonesian Siti Aisyah , said she believed she was handling a liquid like "baby oil",

    Siti, 25, "only said in general that somebody asked her to do this activity",

    Another female suspect, Vietnamese Doan Thi Huong, 28, is also in custody over the murder, but Erwin said Siti had told Indonesian consular staff she did not know her.

    Huong told Vietnam's foreign ministry that she believed she had been tricked into killing Kim and thought she was taking part in a prank for a comedy video.

    had thought she was playing a role in a humorous video clip,
     
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