1. ejls

    ejls Siren of the Seaway

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    Recently, so many threads have been derailed by our angst, rants, and overall complaints. I am establishing this thread in hopes that anyone will feel free to come here and discuss whatever they wish, leaving threads like Recommended Writers and Story Reviews to their original goals. If you want to discuss your all-time favorite book, do it here. If you want to talk about your current work, go right ahead. If you would like to announce the validation of a new submission, post the link here so that we can readily find it, before it's been buried. This is for you - to talk about whatever you wish. My wish is that everyone will feel free to come to the Library.:rose:
     
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  2. ejls

    ejls Siren of the Seaway

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    I am probably alone in this, but the hardest thing for me to write are the sex scenes. I know that most think I have too much story and not enough sex, but honestly they are so difficult for me. I'm so afraid they will all sound the same, that I will repeat the same descriptions and acts in each story. Maybe this comes from growing up in an era where you did not talk about sex with your mother, or even with close girl friends. It was all whispered. Maybe it's because I married my high school sweetheart, without having been with another. I don't know. I do know I'm trying and hope that I succeed. No, my stories are not going to be like everyone elses, but isn't that what makes this place great?
     
  3. crackedjaguar

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    No Ejls your not alone I dread writing sex scenes, because I know I have a particular way that I write them. Its not so much that it was taboo it was more that well there are only so many ways you can describe it, you can freshen it up differant ways but still it can be pretty fucking tedious.
     
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    Shush:twisted:
     
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  5. ejls

    ejls Siren of the Seaway

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    The nice thing about this library is that I envision it in a home. You know the kind - panelled walls, books on every shelf, comfortable chairs and sofas, maybe a bar in the corner. Come in and stay a while.
     
  6. ssalo

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    ejls-

    I think this is a good idea. Thank you.

    ssalo
     
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  7. donb9033

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    I enjoyed the visit and, in the words of whatshisname "I'll be back".

    You always come up with a wonderful idea.
     
  8. donb9033

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    I'm back. And I didn't even raise taxes.

    Ellen, this is a very comfortable place you have designed for us and I want to thank you. I hope your cold is doing better.

    I am still insisting that I will write no more stories, but I am trying to get myself out of the doldrums and get back to actively supporting this site. That also means encouraging all of our authors, good, bad, or indifferent.

    Speaking of encouragement, JackassTales seems like he needs some encouragement to finish his latest story. I tried by promising to paint a picture (written) of a 21 year old bent over his knee for a spanking, but I don't know if that will do it. Any suggestions?

    I have very high hopes for this thread. Thank you.
     
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  9. Mark Twayn

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    You nailed it CJ, there are only so many different ways to describe it physically and writing pretty much the same thing can get boring and I suppose reading the same thing can get boring too. I guess that's one of the reasons why so many writers rely on incest and underage to add some zest.

    These days I try to concentrate more on the build-up or seduction and what's going on in the couple's minds. After all they say the brain is the biggest sex organ after skin.

    And surfers who come here to read rather than go to the videos are looking for sex stimulation through their imaginations.

    A great idea to have a thread like this Wammy ejls. I hope it works keeping other threads clean and that it doesn't become a repository for mindless rubbish.
     
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  10. cassandra789

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    well jag, after getting hooked on urs i can say uve done well. now go write part 15 of the plane crash so i can get off to it like i have for the others!!:excited::excited:
     
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    This from the undisputed master of the incredibly beautiful and inspiring sex scenes! Of course, referring to them as only 'sex' is belittling.

    I, on the other hand, can barely remember what it was like, so have to gloss over those scenes.
     
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  12. ejls

    ejls Siren of the Seaway

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    I just spent the afternoon and evening finishing my new story, including two sex scenes. God I hate those. I'll let you know when I'm ready to submit.

    And to all - this is a place where you can say whatever you want, talk about whatever you want, or simply sit back and read.

    Now, what can we do to inspire Jack? I think I'm too old to inspire anyone.
     
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    In the immortal words of that famous bard, donb9033, 'horse puckey' dear lady. You are an inspiration to us all.
     
  14. Daddycums

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    You are SOOOOOO not alone in this. I also find it difficult to write sex scenes, for 3 reasons:

    1. Having grown up in a very staunch religious household and still retaining a lot of the puritan-style beliefs of my church, I used to have a real mental block with sex scenes. Although the morality of it doesn't bother me any more, I still retain a bit of the block because I've spent too long convincing myself that they're difficult to write.

    2. They're great in fantasy but tend to be the same sequence of steps repeated with minimal variation when I'm trying to write them.

    3. Until the past few years, I wrote in a very different genre. Creativity and originality are always foremost on my mind when I write, so anything that limits such creativity, such as #2 above, tends to compound itself in my mind.

    In short, I find myself uninspired when trying to write sex scenes.

    If there's anyone who can write a sex scene and make it feel alive and vibrant, however, it's DeGuru. After reading Morning Workouts and Romance in the Forest (both of which aren't really stories so much as individual scenes), I was tempted to hire him to write my sex scenes for me. Not really, but I joked around about it in PM's with him.

    By the way, here are links to those stories:

    Morning Workouts
    Romance In the Forest!

    That's like me. The best part of a sex story to me is the foreplay. By that, I don't necessarily mean in the bedroom, but all of the stuff that goes on leading up to the event. The flirting, teasing, "will they or won't they" scenes, especially if they push the boundaries. Nudity, ambiguous touching, etc. That's far more interesting than the consummation of the relationship.

    Incest is one of my favorites exactly for the reason described above. Family members can be intimate with each other in ambiguous ways that can have a hint of the sexual without being overtly sexual. A girl sleeping in her brother's bed. A girl sitting on her daddy's lap. Brothers and sisters wrestling. A good-night kiss on the lips. These are all perfectly acceptable inside the family relationships but downright sexy when that relationship is removed.

    I'm actually working on a story that takes this as a primary theme and explores it in detail in an artistic setting. It will probably be a while before it's finished, but I promise those of you who have read Allison and the Primdales a pleasant surprise.
     
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  15. donb9033

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    Like the first 60 chapters of Allison and the Primdales. I honestly believe that it is 'cruel and inhumane punishment' to make me wait so long to see if Jeff and Brit are actually going to do 'it'.
     
  16. crackedjaguar

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    I wanted you all to know that I found some stories I wrote a long long time ago... I'm SO happy three or four computers later I turn up old hard copies!!!!
     
  17. ejls

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    Originally Posted by Mark Twayn [​IMG]
    These days I try to concentrate more on the build-up or seduction and what's going on in the couple's minds. After all they say the brain is the biggest sex organ after skin.

    I agree with both of you. I wish I could write like MT and discuss the actual thoughts of the couple. I think I use my whole story as the seduction. Hopefully, through the actions of the couple, you will want to read the sex scenes.

    Lately, I've spent some time removing the scenes from a couple of stories, and glossing over the acts - making them very PG rated and sharing them with friends. They seem to like the mainstream versions.
     
  18. dominatemeplease

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    Ejls...you are wrong on so many levels. One you're sex scenes are incredibly beautiful because the reader is able to experience the feelings that brought them to that place. And two, your words of encouragement, your wit, and even those few bouts of near-temper I've seen (and enjoyed) have inspired several people, including me, to take up the pen (or the Word 2007).

    And thank you again, for yet another brilliant idea.
     
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    Muahahahahahahahaha! I know. I'm evil. But the ride along the way is so fun, wouldn't you say?

    Any chance of posting them here?

    I've noticed that about your stories. In several of them, the sex is incidental; you could cut it out entirely without hurting the story.

    Do I foresee a new mainstream fiction writer in the future? As long as you still provide us with the "dirty" versions, I'd love to see you get published.
     
  20. CallMeRave

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    This is a very good idea. I like it being a real place in your head, can we put in a big fireplace so I can read by its light.

    You are right about sex, it is basically the same thing over and over I am not sure how many different ways you can write it. Admittedly I have spelling mistakes in different places each time to keep people guessing.

    Right something to talk about... does anyone know how the Authors list is worked out on average rating, is it worked out by just adding up the ratings and dividing by the number of stories or do you think it works on the total number of positive and negative votes? Ejls, who is a much better writer than me, is on page four when all her stories are in the 80% range and I am on page 3 when I have stories at 50%. I don’t see how I could have a higher average, so is it broken or what?

    I would also like to ask the real authors on here what they feel about changing the name of a series mid way into it. The rise and fall of a boy called Rave is now at part 24, I do intend to keep writing my story but I feel I am at a point in it where it is no longer The rise and fall. Should I change but keep it along the same lines (I was thinking The damnation and salvation of a soul call Rave) or is this bad form? And if I do should I do it as part 25 or go back to part 1? Will this confuse my fans (all 3 of them) and should I not bother?