The Official Hush "I Told You So" Thread...

stumbler · Feb 17, 2017

Trump-I will being American jobs back and punish us businesses who try to ship our jobs over seas.

I told you so that was total bullshit.

Trump has sure not moved the his manufacturing jobs back to the US. Nearly all his products are still manufactured over seas. And for the second time in just three months his son has applied to get foreign workers to work at his winery.

Just more glaring hypocrisy from the Liar in Chief.

wantingnot · Feb 19, 2017

Stumbler what is wrong with the actions you state? Trump, to my knowledge, has not cursed companies for buying foreign made products but for having their brand-name products made overseas. And his son-in-law is having difficulty finding local workers so he is asking to use foreign labor. This is not against anything that President Trump said, either.

stumbler · Feb 19, 2017

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Stumbler what is wrong with the actions you state? Trump, to my knowledge, has not cursed companies for buying foreign made products but for having their brand-name products made overseas. And his son-in-law is having difficulty finding local workers so he is asking to use foreign labor. This is not against anything that President Trump said, either.
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First didn't you answer your own question. Aren't nearly all the name brand products Trump and his family sells made overseas? And doesn't that make Trump a glaring hypocrite that does not practice what he preaches?

And what makes asking permission to bring in foreign workers for Trump's winery news is Trump is very busy trying to deport immigrants that are already here who could and would take those jobs.

Also how do you know there aren't any American citizens willing to do those jobs? Did Eric Trump even offer them before he asked permission to import more foreign workers? If so show me that will you?

stumbler · Feb 20, 2017

Trump during the campaign--I have a secret plan for defeating ISIS.

I told you so that was total bullshit

Trump lied about having a secret plan for defeating ISIS which was proven as soon as he punted the plan to his generals and said he would have a plan in 30 days.

Hush · Feb 21, 2017

So I have likened some of the truly whacked out figures in Trump's inner circle to motivating figures of National Socialism due to their viewpoints... Due we perhaps now have our Reinhard Heydrich in the form of Sebastian Gorka? If not, then who would he better liken to? Some of his views are absolutely disturbing.

For a Trump adviser, an odyssey from the fringes of Washington to the center of power:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...r-of-power/ar-AAn9ggM?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U220DHP

On the night of President Trump’s inauguration, Sebastian Gorka attended the celebratory balls in a high-necked, black Hungarian jacket. Pinned on his chest was a Hungarian coat of arms, a tribute to his father who had been tortured by the communists, and a civilian commendation from the U.S. military.

For years, Gorka had labored on the fringes of Washington and the far edge of acceptable debate as defined by the city’s Republican and Democratic foreign policy elite. Today, the former national security editor for the conservative Breitbart News outlet occupies a senior job in the White House and his controversial ideas — especially about Islam — drive Trump’s populist approach to counterterrorism and national security.

Amid the cheering, music and confetti that night, Gorka talked about Trump’s opening shot in a high-stakes civilizational war, still in its early days.

“Everything’s changed,” Gorka said.

He homed in on three words from Trump’s dystopian inaugural addressthat day: “Radical Islamic terrorism.”

“When he used those three words today — radical Islamic terrorism — he put the marker down for the whole national security establishment,” Gorka told an interviewer from Fox News.

For Gorka and his allies, the words are more than just a description of the enemy. They signal a radical break with the approach that Republicans and Democrats have taken over the past 16 years to counterterrorism and the Muslim world.

Only days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, President George W. Bush insisted the terror strikes had “violated the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith.”

“Islam is peace,” he told a nation still reeling from grief.

President Barack Obama sounded the same theme routinely during two terms in office.

Gorka has relentlessly championed the opposite view.

For him, the terrorism problem has nothing to do with repression, alienation, torture, tribalism, poverty, or America’s foreign policy blunders and a messy and complex Middle East.

“This is the famous approach that says it is all so nuanced and complicated,” Gorka said in an interview. “This is what I completely jettison.”

For him, the terror threat is rooted in Islam and “martial” parts of the Koran that he says predispose some Muslims to acts of terror.

“Anybody who downplays the role of religious ideology . . . they are deleting reality to fit their own world,” he said.

Gorka is a deputy assistant to the president. He reports to Stephen K. Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist, and is a member of his Strategic Initiatives Group. Bannon has spoken in similarly apocalyptic terms of a “new barbarity” that threatens the Christian West.

Most counterterrorism experts dismiss Gorka’s ideas as a dangerous oversimplification that could alienate Muslim allies and boost support for terrorist groups.

“He thinks the government and intelligence agencies don’t know anything about radicalization, but the government knows a lot and thinks he’s nuts,” said Cindy Storer, a former CIA analyst who developed the agency models that trace the path from religious zealotry to violence.

Religious scholars are equally withering. “I can’t overstate how profoundly dangerous this is,” said Omid Safi, a professor of Middle Eastern studies at Duke University. “This is music to the ears of [the Islamic State]. This is what they seek.”

Gorka has heard all of those criticisms before and fought against them — often ferociously. Last month, as he celebrated at the inaugural ball, those critics no longer seemed to matter. Trump’s victory demonstrated to Gorka and his supporters that the common sense of the American people counted for far more than the opinions of experts in Washington and the cloistered world of academia. His side had won.

Before he wrapped up his inauguration night interview, Gorka said he had one last message for America’s troops — “the guys inside the machine” — and its enemies. He turned toward the host, his medal glinting in the TV lights.

‘The alpha males are back,” he said.

‘The Islamic laws of war’

Gorka’s ideas about radical Islam began with his father’s fight against the communists in his native Hungary and his deep Catholic faith.

The elder Gorka and a small group of Christian students in Budapest were sending secret, coded messages to London when he was captured by the communist regime, tortured and given a life sentence. In 1956, he escaped and fled to the United Kingdom, where Gorka was born and raised.

When al-Qaeda struck on Sept. 11, Gorka said, he immediately saw the event through the prism of his father’s decades-old life-and-death struggle.

“Yes, it was jihadi terrorism . . . but, more importantly, that event was linked to communism. It was linked to fascism,” he said. “Why? Because al-Qaeda, ISIS, all of these groups are totalitarians — either you surrender to them or they will kill you.”

His other insight, he said, was that the Washington foreign policy elite was too quick to discount the role of religion.

“Their worldview is fundamentally challenged by anybody who takes religion seriously, and you know what? I take religion seriously,” Gorka said. “Because when you take seven minutes on a video to decapitate another human being by manually sawing off their head, that’s the power that religion can have or a distortion of religion or whatever you want to call it. . . . My father was tortured — tortured for weeks — by the communist secret police in Hungary. I didn’t start decapitating people when I found out what happened to my father.”

Gorka’s core idea is that the United States should partner with a shortlist of Muslim allies — Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt — that he describes as “secular” or willing to separate Islam from the running of the state. Together, they should fight the jihadist religious ideology in the same manner that America fought to discredit communism during the Cold War.

That insight, he said, led him to study Islam, starting with the faith’s ancient texts. “There’s a lot of misinformation out there,” he said. “Would you take anybody’s views on Christianity seriously if they hadn’t read the New Testament? Of course you wouldn’t. So I read the Koran.”

Gorka’s academic credentials, particularly on the subject of Islam, are thin. He went to college in London and spent three years as a reserve intelligence soldier in the British army, focused on the conflict in Northern Ireland. In the 1990s and early 2000s, he cycled through think tanks in Washington and Europe, dabbled in Hungarian politics and taught courses in counterterrorism at the George C. Marshall Center in Germany, which focuses on educating midcareer NATO and allied military officers.

He earned his doctorate from a Hungarian university in 2008 and a few months later landed a faculty job at the College of International Security Affairs (CISA), a new Pentagon-funded school that was still working toward accreditation.

There, he was a dynamic lecturer and an uneven scholar, said retired Col. Mike Bell, the school’s chancellor.

Gorka does not speak Arabic and has never lived in a Muslim-majority country. His knowledge of Islam comes largely from reading English translations of Islamic texts and interacting with foreign officers who account for about two-thirds of the CISA student body and come largely from Muslim nations.

Sometimes, the Muslim students would object to his views of their religion. “I tell them very simply that I am not here to debate Islam,” Gorka said. “Nobody has the right — even a Muslim — to talk for all Muslims.” His goal, he said, was to understand how the enemy interpreted the faith.

In other instances, his fellow professors would challenge his contention that the Koran’s violent passages are the primary driver of terrorism.

“There’s crazy stuff in the Bible, too,” said David Ucko, who taught alongside Gorka for three years at CISA.

Gorka countered that the argument misrepresents Christianity, and he cited the Crusades, which are often invoked as a war against Islam. “The fact is that none of what happened in the Crusades can be justified by the message of Jesus Christ on the cross taking all of our sins upon himself,” he said in an interview. “It’s just not possible. . . . If a crusader killed a woman and child or a heathen, that cannot be theologically justified and therefore it’s wrong and it’s a sin.”

Islam’s martial passages and intermingling of faith and politics makes it different, Gorka said. “If you are pro-fundamentalist in interpretation,” he said, “you have a lot of argumentation on your side.”

Ucko said he quickly dropped the argument “for the sake of harmony.”

Gorka’s former supervisors pushed him to incorporate other perspectives on Islam and publish in peer-reviewed journals where his ideas would be challenged and perhaps tempered, Bell said.

But Gorka insisted that he wasn’t interested in that kind of scholarship.

“What I care about is if somebody in the field is reading my article,” he said. “I see myself as somebody who supports the bravest of the brave — the warfighter. Publish or be damned? I’ll be damned, thank you very much.”

Off campus, Gorka began meeting with conservative members of Congress and lectured regularly at the Army’s Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, N.C.

In 2014, Gorka left to take a teaching job at Marine Corps University that would give him more freedom and new influential connections. The school is part of the Defense Department, but Gorka was not hired as a government employee. His academic chair was funded by Thomas Saunders III, a major Republican Party donor and chairman of the conservative Heritage Foundation.

Saunders and Gorka were related by marriage, but Marine officials who oversaw the selection process said they were not aware of the tie. Saunders said he did not advocate for him.

Gorka began appearing regularly on Fox News and caught the eye of Bannon, who was then editor of Breitbart. Bannon offered him a job at the news outlet. A conservative publishing house signed him to a book contract.

At Marine Corps University, enthusiastic officers eagerly packed Gorka’s lectures, even as many faculty members took a dim view of his work.

“He made a difficult and complex situation simple and confirmed the officers’ prejudices and assumptions,” said retired Lt. Col. Mike Lewis, who served as an assistant professor and Special Operations chair at the school.

Said James Joyner, an associate professor: “The guy he was on Fox News is the guy he was here — bombastic and a showman.”

A few complained that Gorka’s TV appearances, which touted his ties to the school and bashed Obama, made it appear as though the government-funded school for Marine officers actively opposed the commander in chief. The school’s vice president for academic affairs said he raised the matter with Gorka. But the controversy never spread much beyond the university’s Quantico campus.

Shortly after the Islamic State burned alive a Jordanian pilot in 2015, Saunders invited Gorka to New York to do lectures on terrorism and Islam.

Saunders had made his fortune as a managing director at Morgan Stanley and founder of a successful private equity fund. He had done business all over the world. Like many Americans, he said his thoughts often turned to the Middle East and the threat of terrorism.

“What the hell is going on?” he said he often found himself thinking. What possible explanations could exist for the savage behavior he was seeing on television and online?

In Gorka, he had finally found someone with answers. One of Gorka’s lectures took place at the Colony Club, an exclusive all-women’s club on Park Avenue.

“Why do they behead us?” he recalled Gorka asking the standing-room-only crowd. “And why did they choose to burn alive this Jordanian pilot who had flown missions over Syria?”

Gorka explained that the answer could be found in the “Islamic laws of war,” which, he said, ordered Muslims to behead infidels and prescribed an even worse punishment for apostates, who should “suffer as if they are already in hell.”

When Gorka was finished, the “place could not stop talking about terrorism,” Saunders said. “It was spellbinding. . . . This is a true scholar telling you what happened and why. He is very detailed and very specific.”

‘The crucible of public policy’

For much of the past 16 years, Bush and Obama had played down Islam’s role in fueling terrorism. Like many in Washington, they worried about provoking a backlash against Muslims or feeding the jihadists’ clash-of-

civilizations narrative.

“Islam is not part of the problem,” Obama said in his seminal 2009 speech at Cairo University. “It is an important part of promoting peace.”

Such characterizations not only failed to describe the war being waged within Islam but they didn’t match what people such as Saunders were seeing in blood-drenched news reports from the region and hearing on the campaign trail, especially from Republican candidates.

In speech after speech, Trump described the threat posed by radical Islamic terrorists in grisly terms: “Children slaughtered, girls sold into slavery, men and women burned alive, crucifixions, beheadings and drownings. Ethnic minorities targeted for mass execution. Holy sites desecrated,” he said in a fiery 2016 address in Youngstown, Ohio. “. . . We cannot let this evil continue.”

The solution, Trump said, was to mount a Cold War-style campaign that “would take on the ideology of radical Islam.” He spoke of banning immigrants from terrorist hotbeds and imposing religious tests to weed out those who “believe that sharia law should supplant American law.”

Many of the ideas in Trump’s terrorism speeches had their origins in Gorka’s work. Other elements traced back to Frank Gaffney Jr., a senior Reagan-era Pentagon official who founded the Center for Security Policy, a Washington-based think tank.

Gaffney has long been politically radioactive in Washington. He drew widespread condemnation for suggesting that Grover Norquist, a Republican anti-tax stalwart, had ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. In a much-derided piece in Breitbart, he suggested that the logo for the Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency “bore a disconcerting resemblance to an amalgamation of the Obama campaign’s logo and the symbols of Islam.”

The Washington Times pulled his column and he was barred from speaking at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference. “It has been my lot in life to be criticized and even punished . . . for telling the truth,” Gaffney said in a recent interview.

But outside Washington, Gaffney has amassed a considerable following that knows him through his speeches and “Secure Freedom” radio program. Both Gorka and his wife, Katharine, a counterterrorism analyst and a Trump political appointee in the Department of Homeland Security, have been regular guests on the show.

Dire warnings from the likes of Gaffney, Gorka and many others seem to have had an effect on Americans’ view of Muslims. In the first years after the 9/11 attacks, about 25 percent of Republicans said they had an unfavorable view of Muslims, according to soon-to-be-published research by Charles Kurzman, a professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Since 2012, the percentage of Republicans with negative views has been consistently more than 50 percent.

“Part of the reason for the increase is this campaign on the part of people like Gorka and Gaffney to inflate the terror threat,” Kurzman said. “It’s troubling.”

Gaffney is still too controversial to land a job in the administration, but for the first time in nearly three decades, he has allies in the White House and real hopes, he said, that his ideas will finally be “tested in the crucible of public policy.”

Chief among those allies is Gorka.

Few in Washington noticed when Gorka began advising Trump and his ideas began showing up in the candidate’s speeches. Despite a best-selling book and numerous Fox News appearances, he existed outside the orbit of established national security experts.

‘A new sheriff in town’

Just three days after Trump’s election, Gorka addressed a cheering room of people who had helped pave his way to the halls of power. The audience consisted mostly of retirees who had gathered at the Breakers hotel in Palm Beach, Fla.

They were Gorka’s admirers: regular people, deeply afraid of terrorism and eager to listen to a man whose frightening insights would soon be receiving a hearing at the highest levels of the U.S. government.

“I’m accused by many people of being the most serious man on television,” Gorka said in his plummy British accent. “Today, it might be a little different. I am in a different mood. Today, I am going to start with something a tad naughty.”

He moved through the crowd of people who had paid up to $1,500 to hear him speak. “We are happy, right? We are happy,” he said.

There were nods and quiet applause as Gorka fished around in the pocket of his yellow blazer, searching for his remote.

“I am going to show a picture I am not meant to show usually,” he said.

He paused to draw out the suspense before pressing the remote’s button.

Up popped a photograph of a dead, bloodied brown-skinned man, lying on the ground next to an AK-47 assault rifle. The audience began to cheer — first hesitantly and then with gusto. Gorka’s booming voice filled the room.

“We can win now,” he thundered. “We can win!”

Gorka’s former colleagues view his ascent with a mixture of surprise and alarm.

“It’s quite staggering,” said Ucko, Gorka’s former teaching colleague. “If you are a fan, you are enthralled. If not, it’s crazy to think we live in a time when he’s wandering the halls of the West Wing and advising the president. It is surreal.”

At the Pentagon and the State Department, senior officials scrambled to figure out who he was and what his populist foreign policy views might mean for America’s approach to the Muslim world and counterterrorism.

A few changes seem possible. Trump could boost support to strongmen such as Egypt’s Abdel Fatah al-Sissi, whom the president has hailed as a stalwart ally in the war against radical Islam. Gorka has described Sissi, criticized by human rights groups for his assault on political opponents, in particular the Muslim Brotherhood, as “enlightened” and a “reformer.”

Trump could designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization — a move that Gorka and his wife have long advocated. Such a designation would put the United States in direct conflict with the Middle East’s largest Islamist movement and its millions of followers.

Gorka’s high-profile role in the administration’s earliest days suggests that Trump’s populist foreign policy instincts, at least for the moment, are ascendant.

In the first hours after the troubled rollout of the president’s executive order on immigration and refugees, the White House dispatched Gorka to defend the move on Fox News. Within days, he was everywhere — and loving it.

“There’s a new sheriff in town and his name is Donald Trump,” he told CNN anchor Jake Tapper.

On the BBC, he blasted the media for its “absolutely fallacious” coverage.

On NPR, he insisted that even Iraqis were “thankful” for Trump’s order, which banned them from entering the United States.

Then he disparaged the thousands of protesters demonstrating at airports as the “chattering classes . . . people totally disconnected from the reality of November 8.”

“I find it quite amusing, sadly so,” he said.

The NPR host thanked him for his time.

“It’s been a delight,” Gorka replied, his voice brightening.
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ace's n 8's · Feb 21, 2017

Hush said: ↑

So I have likened some of the truly whacked out figures in Trump's inner circle to motivating figures of National Socialism due to their viewpoints... Due we perhaps now have our Reinhard Heydrich in the form of Sebastian Gorka? If not, then who would he better liken to? Some of his views are absolutely disturbing.

For a Trump adviser, an odyssey from the fringes of Washington to the center of power:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...r-of-power/ar-AAn9ggM?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U220DHP

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I dont see any of his views terrifying, I pretty think that they reflect reality...clearly.

There are some very bad people in this world, as of late, those very bad people have been coddled too, they have been protected through political correctness.

Political correctness is over, the truth is the truth, this world has enemies abroad, enemies that hide behind religious beliefs.

The U.S. DIDN'T CREATE THOSE THAT FOLLOW THAT SPECIFIC RELIGIOUS BELIEF, although political correctness has protected those that do inherently believe that horseshit.

Finally, Washington will see reality, as reality actually is....A very REFRESHING sentiment, as it is.

stumbler · Feb 22, 2017

Trump--I will separate myself from by businesses

There is lots more proof that's total bullshit.

One is Trump is pandering to the members of his club at Mar a Lago and even inviting them to sit in and listen to picking cabinet members. Then he tries to claim being in Mar a Lago allows him to be with average Americans as if average Americans can afford to joining a club at a cost of $200,000 per year.

And then his sons get caught saying business with them gives investors special access to the president.

While in the meantime Ivanks gets slapped with a tax lean.

stumbler · Feb 22, 2017

Trump--Thousands of voters were bused into New Hampshire to vote illegally.

Any idiot could have told you so that was total bullshit.

Including Trump's former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

Lewandowski saw no evidence of voter fraud in New Hampshire

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...dnt-see-evidence-of-trumps-voter-fraud-claims

Hush · Feb 23, 2017

A token effort, and a real one...

Pence makes surprise visit to vandalized Jewish cemetery:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...lized-jewish-cemetery/ar-AAnesqw?ocid=U220DHP

Vice President Pence on Wednesday made a surprise visit to a historic Jewish cemetery near St. Louis to condemn the recent vandalism that took place there.
“From the heart, there is no place in America for hatred or acts of prejudice or violence or anti-Semitism,” he said.
Pence called Missouri’s response to the incident “inspiring" while standing next to Eric Greitens (R), the state’s first Jewish governor.
Pence decried the vandalism as “a sad reminder of the work that still must be done to root out hate and prejudice and evil” during a speech earlier Wednesday in St. Louis. Vandals toppled more than 100 headstones on Monday at the Chesed Shel Emeth Society cemetery in University City, a suburb of St. Louis.
The incident added to questions about a rise in acts of anti-Semitism around the country.
The vandalism occurred on the same day that 11 Jewish community centers across the country received phoned-in bomb threats. The calls, which have all turned out to be hoaxes, have targeted 54 community centers in 27 states so far this year.
Federal investigators are looking into the threats.
President Trump on Tuesday condemned the anti-Semitic acts after coming under pressure from Jewish groups, who criticized his previous response to the incidents as lackluster.
“Anti-Semitism is horrible and it’s going to stop and it has to stop,” Trump told MSNBC during a tour of the National Museum of African American History and Culture.
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Funny how the real world works huh?

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stumbler · Feb 23, 2017

Hush said: ↑

A token effort, and a real one...

Pence makes surprise visit to vandalized Jewish cemetery:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...lized-jewish-cemetery/ar-AAnesqw?ocid=U220DHP

In related news...

Muslims Unite to Repair Jewish Cemetery
Muslim Americans Help Repair Anti-Semitic Vandalism of Historic Jewish Cemetery
https://www.launchgood.com/project/muslims_unite_to_repair_jewish_cemetery#/

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Funny how the real world works huh?

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And while Pence was posing for this photo op another bomb threat was called into the Anti-Defamation League and not a peep out of the White House. But who knows the bomb threat might have come from Steve Bannon's office in the White House.

ace's n 8's · Feb 23, 2017

stumbler said: ↑

And while Pence was posing for this photo op another bomb threat was called into the Anti-Defamation League and not a peep out of the White House. But who knows the bomb threat might have come from Steve Bannon's office in the White House.
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Oh yeah, the infamous ''Trump could very well be promoting domestic violence'' propaganda from the leftists once again.

''BURN THIS MOTHER FUCKER DOWN''

Hush · Feb 23, 2017

So how do you pacify a petulant spoiled brat?
Well, you tell them that "everybody really does like you baby, you're so wonderful!"

Trump campaign team showed him positive coverage to control Twitter habits: report:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...its-report/ar-AAne6Gq?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U220DHP

President Trump's former campaign officials reportedly showed him positive news coverage in an attempt to control his Twitter habits.

Politico reported that the president's former campaign staffers made sure that Trump's media consumption included praise in an effort to tamp down on his inflammatory tweets.

"He saw there was activity so he didn't feel like he had to respond," a former campaign official told Politico. "He sends out these tweets when he feels like people aren't responding enough for him."

Former Trump adviser Sam Nunberg told the publication, "If candidate Trump was upset about unfair coverage, it was productive to show him that he was getting fair coverage from outlets that were persuadable."

"The same media that our base digests and prefers is going to be the base for his support. I would assume the President would like see positive and preferential treatment from those outlets and that would help the operation overall."

Trump often used Twitter during his presidential campaign to make announcements or go after his rivals. Since assuming office, the president has continued to use the medium, often going after the media for their coverage of his administration.

According to Politico, former Trump aides said when news coverage during the campaign wasn't positive, they looked to certain outlets to plant positive stories.

A former campaign staffer referenced Trump's feud with Khizr Khan, the father of a slain Muslim U.S. soldier. The official said that amid backlash, the Trump team set up a meeting with Gold Star Mothers of Florida and ensured conservative outlets covered the story.

"We made sure that conservative media was aware of it, they connected the echo chamber," the former official said.

Former campaign officials used outlets such as Breitbart News, the Washington Examiner, Fox News, Infowars and The Daily Caller in an effort to show Trump positive news coverage.

Since assuming office, Trump has continued his feud with the media, dismissing unflattering coverage of his administration as "fake news" and accusing reporters of biased and dishonest coverage.

In a tweet last week, the president called the "FAKE NEWS media" the "enemy of the American people."
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LMFAO, what a pussy! He ought to come here are read some of the "You Motherfuckers" posts. We'd never see another post from Baby "Ass-Clown" Huey again!

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slutwolf · Feb 23, 2017

This'll make trumpy happy.

Beijing (AFP) - Chinese authorities have blocked a prolific feminist social media account for allegedly breaking the law with posts critical of US President Donald Trump, its editors said Thursday.

Hush · Feb 24, 2017

So in Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Castro's Cuba, oh hell, the list goes on and on, the first thing any oppressive dictator MUST do is silence all dissent.

It first begins with fellow citizens labeled as "unpatriotic" to even traitors of the people being targeted by those in power (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...then to inspire dictator aligned citizens to speak out against those disagreeing with their cause (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...and then, as press is targeted which slows any opposition yet doesn't stop it (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...the aligned citizens and political leaders on lower levels are inspired, led and even directed to legally silence opposition (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...and once it is legal to oppress free speech, then those in power have secured the power required to become a dictator.

Without that initial step, a dictatorship cannot grow to its ultimate potential of absolute power. It will die before getting started. We however in the United States are fortunate enough to have had founding fathers who recognized this. More so, realized that this right, this right of a free person was above armed revolt, and all other actions that could be used to combat an oppressive government, the power of the word and pen, that they established it as the first right of a free people.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That right above all else insures that the power shall always be in the hands of the people, the citizens of a nation in that then they have the ability to inspire all others to join in the fight for freedom and justice. So it is imperative, that right be attacked first.

Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent:
http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2017/02/22/arizona-senate-crackdown-on-protests/

Claiming people are being paid to riot, Republican state senators voted Wednesday to give police new power to arrest anyone who is involved in a peaceful demonstration that may turn bad — even before anything actually happened.

SB1142 expands the state’s racketeering laws, now aimed at organized crime, to also include rioting. And it redefines what constitutes rioting to include actions that result in damage to the property of others.

But the real heart of the legislation is what Democrats say is the guilt by association — and giving the government the right to criminally prosecute and seize the assets of everyone who planned a protest and everyone who participated. And what’s worse, said Sen. Steve Farley, D-Tucson, is that the person who may have broken a window, triggering the claim there was a riot, might actually not be a member of the group but someone from the other side.

Sen. Martin Quezada, D-Phoenix, acknowledged that sometimes what’s planned as a peaceful demonstration can go south.

“When people want to express themselves as a group during a time of turmoil, during a time of controversy, during a time of high emotions, that’s exactly when people gather as a community,’’ he said. “Sometimes they yell, sometimes they scream, sometimes they do go too far.’’

Quezada said, though, that everything that constitutes rioting already is a crime, ranging from assault to criminal damage, and those responsible can be individually prosecuted. He said the purpose of this bill appears to be designed to chill the First Amendment rights of people to decide to demonstrate in the first place for fear something could wrong.

But Sen. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, said that chilling effect is aimed at a very specific group of protesters.

“You now have a situation where you have full-time, almost professional agent-provocateurs that attempt to create public disorder,’’ he said.

“A lot of them are ideologues, some of them are anarchists,’’ Kavanagh continued. “But this stuff is all planned.’’

There’s something else: By including rioting in racketeering laws, it actually permits police to arrest those who are planning events. And Kavanagh, a former police officer, said if there are organized groups, “I should certainly hope that our law enforcement people have some undercover people there.’’

“Wouldn’t you rather stop a riot before it starts?’’ Kavanagh asked colleagues during debate. “Do you really want to wait until people are injuring each other, throwing Molotov cocktails, picking up barricades and smashing them through businesses in downtown Phoenix?’’

Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, said the new criminal laws are necessary.

“I have been heartsick with what’s been going on in our country, what young people are being encouraged to do,’’ she said.

She agreed with Quezada that there already are laws that cover overt acts. But Allen said they don’t work.

“If they get thrown in jail, somebody pays to get them out,’’ she said. “There has to be something to deter them from that.’’

Farley, however, said the legislation does far more than simply going after those who might incite people to riot, something which actually already is a crime. And he warned Republicans that such a broad law could end up being used against some of their allies.

For example, he said, a “Tea Party’’ group wanting to protest a property tax hike might get permits, publicize the event and have a peaceful demonstration.

“And one person, possibly from the other side, starts breaking the windows of a car,’’ Farley said.

“And all of a sudden the organizers of that march, the local Tea Party, are going to be under indictment from the county attorney in the county that raised those property taxes,’’ he said. “That will have a chilling effect on anybody, right or left, who wants to protest something the government has done.’’

Sen. Katie Hobbs, D-Phoenix, said the whole legislation is based on a false premise of how disturbances happen.

“This idea that people are being paid to come out and do that?’’ she said. “I’m sorry, but I think that is fake news.’’

Sen. Andrea Dalessandro, D-Green Valley, had her own concerns.

“I’m fearful that ‘riot’ is in the eyes of the beholder and that this bill will apply more strictly to minorities and people trying to have their voice heard,’’ she said.

The 17-13 party-line vote sends the bill to the House.
____________________________________________________________________

So, I ask you again...

Has that happened in the first month of this administration?

The first right of the Constitution of the United States of America desecrated in a single vote. Possibly taken away from the citizens of Arizona, so now, 1-down, 49-to go.

Hush....an alias

ace's n 8's · Feb 24, 2017

Hush said: ↑

So in Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Castro's Cuba, oh hell, the list goes on and on, the first thing any oppressive dictator MUST do is silence all dissent.

It first begins with fellow citizens labeled as "unpatriotic" to even traitors of the people being targeted by those in power (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...then to inspire dictator aligned citizens to speak out against those disagreeing with their cause (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...and then, as press is targeted which slows any opposition yet doesn't stop it (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...the aligned citizens and political leaders on lower levels are inspired, led and even directed to legally silence opposition (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...and once it is legal to oppress free speech, then those in power have secured the power required to become a dictator.

Without that initial step, a dictatorship cannot grow to its ultimate potential of absolute power. It will die before getting started. We however in the United States are fortunate enough to have had founding fathers who recognized this. More so, realized that this right, this right of a free person was above armed revolt, and all other actions that could be used to combat an oppressive government, the power of the word and pen, that they established it as the first right of a free people.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That right above all else insures that the power shall always be in the hands of the people, the citizens of a nation in that then they have the ability to inspire all others to join in the fight for freedom and justice. So it is imperative, that right be attacked first.

Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent:
http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2017/02/22/arizona-senate-crackdown-on-protests/

Claiming people are being paid to riot, Republican state senators voted Wednesday to give police new power to arrest anyone who is involved in a peaceful demonstration that may turn bad — even before anything actually happened.

SB1142 expands the state’s racketeering laws, now aimed at organized crime, to also include rioting. And it redefines what constitutes rioting to include actions that result in damage to the property of others.

But the real heart of the legislation is what Democrats say is the guilt by association — and giving the government the right to criminally prosecute and seize the assets of everyone who planned a protest and everyone who participated. And what’s worse, said Sen. Steve Farley, D-Tucson, is that the person who may have broken a window, triggering the claim there was a riot, might actually not be a member of the group but someone from the other side.

Sen. Martin Quezada, D-Phoenix, acknowledged that sometimes what’s planned as a peaceful demonstration can go south.

“When people want to express themselves as a group during a time of turmoil, during a time of controversy, during a time of high emotions, that’s exactly when people gather as a community,’’ he said. “Sometimes they yell, sometimes they scream, sometimes they do go too far.’’

Quezada said, though, that everything that constitutes rioting already is a crime, ranging from assault to criminal damage, and those responsible can be individually prosecuted. He said the purpose of this bill appears to be designed to chill the First Amendment rights of people to decide to demonstrate in the first place for fear something could wrong.

But Sen. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, said that chilling effect is aimed at a very specific group of protesters.

“You now have a situation where you have full-time, almost professional agent-provocateurs that attempt to create public disorder,’’ he said.

“A lot of them are ideologues, some of them are anarchists,’’ Kavanagh continued. “But this stuff is all planned.’’

There’s something else: By including rioting in racketeering laws, it actually permits police to arrest those who are planning events. And Kavanagh, a former police officer, said if there are organized groups, “I should certainly hope that our law enforcement people have some undercover people there.’’

“Wouldn’t you rather stop a riot before it starts?’’ Kavanagh asked colleagues during debate. “Do you really want to wait until people are injuring each other, throwing Molotov cocktails, picking up barricades and smashing them through businesses in downtown Phoenix?’’

Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, said the new criminal laws are necessary.

“I have been heartsick with what’s been going on in our country, what young people are being encouraged to do,’’ she said.

She agreed with Quezada that there already are laws that cover overt acts. But Allen said they don’t work.

“If they get thrown in jail, somebody pays to get them out,’’ she said. “There has to be something to deter them from that.’’

Farley, however, said the legislation does far more than simply going after those who might incite people to riot, something which actually already is a crime. And he warned Republicans that such a broad law could end up being used against some of their allies.

For example, he said, a “Tea Party’’ group wanting to protest a property tax hike might get permits, publicize the event and have a peaceful demonstration.

“And one person, possibly from the other side, starts breaking the windows of a car,’’ Farley said.

“And all of a sudden the organizers of that march, the local Tea Party, are going to be under indictment from the county attorney in the county that raised those property taxes,’’ he said. “That will have a chilling effect on anybody, right or left, who wants to protest something the government has done.’’

Sen. Katie Hobbs, D-Phoenix, said the whole legislation is based on a false premise of how disturbances happen.

“This idea that people are being paid to come out and do that?’’ she said. “I’m sorry, but I think that is fake news.’’

Sen. Andrea Dalessandro, D-Green Valley, had her own concerns.

“I’m fearful that ‘riot’ is in the eyes of the beholder and that this bill will apply more strictly to minorities and people trying to have their voice heard,’’ she said.

The 17-13 party-line vote sends the bill to the House.
____________________________________________________________________

So, I ask you again...

Has that happened in the first month of this administration?

The first right of the Constitution of the United States of America desecrated in a single vote. Possibly taken away from the citizens of Arizona, so now, 1-down, 49-to go.

Hush....an alias
Click to expand...

''The sky is falling....the sky is falling.''

Hush · Feb 24, 2017

ace's n 8's said: ↑

''The sky is falling....the sky is falling.''
Click to expand...

That's the most real chunk of sky I've seen in a long time... Wait for it, the Constitution is in Trumps way.

Hush....an alias

stumbler · Feb 24, 2017

Hush said: ↑

So in Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Castro's Cuba, oh hell, the list goes on and on, the first thing any oppressive dictator MUST do is silence all dissent.

It first begins with fellow citizens labeled as "unpatriotic" to even traitors of the people being targeted by those in power (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...then to inspire dictator aligned citizens to speak out against those disagreeing with their cause (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...and then, as press is targeted which slows any opposition yet doesn't stop it (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...the aligned citizens and political leaders on lower levels are inspired, led and even directed to legally silence opposition (has that happened in the first month of this administration?),
...and once it is legal to oppress free speech, then those in power have secured the power required to become a dictator.

Without that initial step, a dictatorship cannot grow to its ultimate potential of absolute power. It will die before getting started. We however in the United States are fortunate enough to have had founding fathers who recognized this. More so, realized that this right, this right of a free person was above armed revolt, and all other actions that could be used to combat an oppressive government, the power of the word and pen, that they established it as the first right of a free people.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That right above all else insures that the power shall always be in the hands of the people, the citizens of a nation in that then they have the ability to inspire all others to join in the fight for freedom and justice. So it is imperative, that right be attacked first.

Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent:
http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2017/02/22/arizona-senate-crackdown-on-protests/

Claiming people are being paid to riot, Republican state senators voted Wednesday to give police new power to arrest anyone who is involved in a peaceful demonstration that may turn bad — even before anything actually happened.

SB1142 expands the state’s racketeering laws, now aimed at organized crime, to also include rioting. And it redefines what constitutes rioting to include actions that result in damage to the property of others.

But the real heart of the legislation is what Democrats say is the guilt by association — and giving the government the right to criminally prosecute and seize the assets of everyone who planned a protest and everyone who participated. And what’s worse, said Sen. Steve Farley, D-Tucson, is that the person who may have broken a window, triggering the claim there was a riot, might actually not be a member of the group but someone from the other side.

Sen. Martin Quezada, D-Phoenix, acknowledged that sometimes what’s planned as a peaceful demonstration can go south.

“When people want to express themselves as a group during a time of turmoil, during a time of controversy, during a time of high emotions, that’s exactly when people gather as a community,’’ he said. “Sometimes they yell, sometimes they scream, sometimes they do go too far.’’

Quezada said, though, that everything that constitutes rioting already is a crime, ranging from assault to criminal damage, and those responsible can be individually prosecuted. He said the purpose of this bill appears to be designed to chill the First Amendment rights of people to decide to demonstrate in the first place for fear something could wrong.

But Sen. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, said that chilling effect is aimed at a very specific group of protesters.

“You now have a situation where you have full-time, almost professional agent-provocateurs that attempt to create public disorder,’’ he said.

“A lot of them are ideologues, some of them are anarchists,’’ Kavanagh continued. “But this stuff is all planned.’’

There’s something else: By including rioting in racketeering laws, it actually permits police to arrest those who are planning events. And Kavanagh, a former police officer, said if there are organized groups, “I should certainly hope that our law enforcement people have some undercover people there.’’

“Wouldn’t you rather stop a riot before it starts?’’ Kavanagh asked colleagues during debate. “Do you really want to wait until people are injuring each other, throwing Molotov cocktails, picking up barricades and smashing them through businesses in downtown Phoenix?’’

Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, said the new criminal laws are necessary.

“I have been heartsick with what’s been going on in our country, what young people are being encouraged to do,’’ she said.

She agreed with Quezada that there already are laws that cover overt acts. But Allen said they don’t work.

“If they get thrown in jail, somebody pays to get them out,’’ she said. “There has to be something to deter them from that.’’

Farley, however, said the legislation does far more than simply going after those who might incite people to riot, something which actually already is a crime. And he warned Republicans that such a broad law could end up being used against some of their allies.

For example, he said, a “Tea Party’’ group wanting to protest a property tax hike might get permits, publicize the event and have a peaceful demonstration.

“And one person, possibly from the other side, starts breaking the windows of a car,’’ Farley said.

“And all of a sudden the organizers of that march, the local Tea Party, are going to be under indictment from the county attorney in the county that raised those property taxes,’’ he said. “That will have a chilling effect on anybody, right or left, who wants to protest something the government has done.’’

Sen. Katie Hobbs, D-Phoenix, said the whole legislation is based on a false premise of how disturbances happen.

“This idea that people are being paid to come out and do that?’’ she said. “I’m sorry, but I think that is fake news.’’

Sen. Andrea Dalessandro, D-Green Valley, had her own concerns.

“I’m fearful that ‘riot’ is in the eyes of the beholder and that this bill will apply more strictly to minorities and people trying to have their voice heard,’’ she said.

The 17-13 party-line vote sends the bill to the House.
____________________________________________________________________

So, I ask you again...

Has that happened in the first month of this administration?

The first right of the Constitution of the United States of America desecrated in a single vote. Possibly taken away from the citizens of Arizona, so now, 1-down, 49-to go.

Hush....an alias
Click to expand...

Damn Hush your signature is right; What a bitch. But in a really good and courageous way as far as I am concerned.

And don't you get a kick our of the lying conservatives that ran around screaming; THE CONSTITUTION THE CONSTITUTION for eight years and are now willing to help Trump shit all over the constitution?

slutwolf · Feb 24, 2017

You have a constitution ?

Dose trump know ?

shootersa · Feb 24, 2017

You are doing a fine job.
Keep it up please.

slutwolf · Feb 24, 2017

Trump can't find any US trade surpluses. Here you go, Mr. President
By Jacob Pramuk | CNBC – Fri, Feb 24, 2017 6:22 AM NZDT
President Donald Trump claimed Thursday that he cannot find a country with which the United States has a trade surplus.

The U.S., in fact, has a merchandise trade surplus with more than half of the countries in the world, according to the U.S. International Trade Commission. A trade surplus means America exports more goods to a country than it imports from it.

Is he really that thick ?
or
just so deluded that he thinks he can dribble anything and people will take it as fact ?

* *
"The deals we have with other countries are unbelievably bad. We don't have any good deals," Trump told a group of business executives at the White House. "In fact, I'm trying to find a country where we actually have a surplus of trade as opposed to a deficit. Everything's a deficit."
* *
"I actually said to my people, find a country where we actually do well," he said. "So far, we haven't found that country. It's just losses with everybody

Actually.
bullshit.

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