The truth about Rodney King
Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by NicoleDeLint, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:28 AM.
Fact is the cops and the legal system failed the American public.
You Dentedhead I expected this from but doggo, that is a new low. Bad doggy lol.
The police failed the American public by allowing the riot to happen. Whenever there is a black ghetto riot the police should start killing rioters until the riot stops.
........... but with a white ghetto riot the cops should take things a bit easier.
Even in poor white and Oriental communities one does not see the equivalent of black ghetto riots, with whites or Orientals looting and burning stores.
Sorry dog, the police are not going to be the tool for your racist agenda. You are not the dictator in charge and they are not your storm troops.
The great majority of people who want to become cops do so because they feel an obligation to serve their communities. It's about the same attitude as those who volunteer for military service but it is less of a sacrifice to become a cop.
Those who want to "kick ass" and think a badge is the perfect shield for realizing their obsession most often don't even get past the tests and interviews. Some do, and most of those are weeded out before they clear probation. Thankfully, the process weeds out the thugs and tough guys before they can do much damage.
Cops can't do their job without cooperation from the community. Cops are always undermanned, outgunned, and behind. Where the community fears/hates the uniform everyone suffers; the community because the cops are not getting the intelligence they need from citizens to control crime, the cops because they end up in physical altercations more often, and the individuals who come in contact with the police because inevitably, they will get the beating end of the stick in a bad situation.
Before WWII most communities had "community policing" which is just a fancy term for cops walking a beat. They knew the residents, knew what was going on, and were looked at as a protector and not an oppressor. It is a concept many departments are returning to and it makes sense; cops literally embedded in the neighborhoods they patrol know far more about what is happening in their area and know who the bad actors are. It is far more expensive and labor intensive, and that is what keeps some departments from experimenting with it.
The idea that cops should "beat them to death" in some master race version of street justice is plain offensive. Cops are not the judge, jury and executioner. To put the cops in charge of justice is to invite the fascists to take over.
Dog blames the citizen who filmed the Rodney King beating. That's about like blaming the cop for your drunk driving arrest.
Adrenalin runs high during a high speed chase; as a rule when it ends people are hurt and cops are swarming to the scene. The driver is the focus of attention; getting them secured is the first job and is always high tension. A driver who wants to fight or continue on foot is all but begging for a beating. There is no time to determine if they are high, or drunk, or armed or what their history is; the cops want to take them down and secure them quickly, before someone (else) gets hurt. So often at the end of a high speed chase the cops are swarming the driver, yanking them out of the car, tackling them, hitting them and basically subduing them. That entire sequence, assuming the driver hasn't started a long foot chase, lasts about 30 seconds.
The Rodney King beating lasted the better part of 3 minutes, and primarily involved 4 cops. There were at least 10 others standing nearby. At least one of them tried to intervene but was pulled back. Rodney King had stopped any form of resistance within the first minute. Not one of the cops in the video could reasonably say they were at risk; any 3 of those cops could have swarmed King and subdued him once he was on the ground and not been at risk from him.
The Rodney King video did two things; it was the catalyst for a summer of rioting when at least 50 people died and over 2,000 were injured. It also put police on notice that because of technology they could no longer rely on "his word against mine".
It is perhaps the best evidence of why cops shouldn't be your storm troopers, dog.
Riots could be controlled very easy. Several years ago the microwave gun was developed to disperse a crowd with no damage to the people. One mounted on any type of vehicle can clear a street in a matter of minutes. Just think of all of the problems that could be stopped before they started if law enforcement would use this one weapon. Not a single person would be hurt and streets could be cleared in minutes.
Anyone want to make a guess why it isn't used?
Why isn't it used today?
Shooter gives; why not?
I asked the question. I need an answer, not to just keep repeating my original question.
It is not used because as most people know any form of micro waves used will result in the target material cooking from the inside, basically the "gun" would do damage to internal organs that cannot be undone or repaired.
I was tested and did not do any damage at all. It only caused the outer skin to become hot.
Much better than a ball of lead.
My "racist agenda" consists of expecting blacks to behave decently and perform adequately. It consists of punishing them when the break the law, not giving them special preferences in university admissions and hiring, and not making excuses for them.
If your agenda applies to all people, using the term "black" is unnecessary.
If your agenda applies only to "blacks" then it is a racist agenda since you hold them to a different standard than "non blacks".
You and I can agree on university admissions and hiring; no group should get special preference without a very good reason. Skin color would not be one of them.
Have you ever heard of Affirmative Action?
Are you sober today? This about the 3rd or 4th thing you have said that does not make sense.
That makes sense. Unfortunately, it does not reflect the history of black ghetto riots. The major riots happened in the United States between 1964 and 1968. That was when the Johnson administration was committed to ending poverty and racial inequality. They ended abruptly with the inauguration of Richard Nixon. That was not because Nixon strove to make the police "kinder, gentler."
Nixon ran on a "let's get tough with the Negroes" platform, and won because of it. Because there were no significant black ghetto riots during his first term he was re elected in a landslide.
Why did the black ghetto riots begin after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed? Why did they continue after the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Open Housing Act of 1968 were signed? Why did they end with the Nixon administration? Why were there no significant riots in the South during the 1960's.
Why did the black ghetto riots happen again during the administration of the first Negro president in American History?
Here is my theory: the black ghetto riots happened during the Johnson and Obama administrations because each president indicated that government would not give the rioters the punishment they deserved.
Thats right! By God, we have to keep them darkies subdued and not let them fall victim to their basic emotions, you know, the ones they brought with them in the slave ships! If them darkies get arrogant and start putting on airs, you know, like looking at our women then we have to whip them back into shape! Beat them fuckers and put them in work camps where we can at least get some work out of them for their welfare! And while we're at it we'll sterilize all their women, and what the hell, while we're at it we'll sterilize the men so they can't make any more damn monkeys!
Dog, sometimes I think you post like you do just to inflame things. But then I think you really are delusional enough to believe what you post.
Have you looked up Affirmative Action yet.
I think you are in for a surprise. Just from the way you post I don't think you have ever heard of it.
Shooter knows affirmative action. As a matter of principal he does not agree with giving "special" groups "special" rights. Any value Affirmative action offered was achieved by 2015.
OK, you have heard of affirmative action. Now we can go to step two.
Who is helped by affirmative action?
Come on now You know this one.
Blacks have high crime rates everywhere in the world that they live because inclinations that enhanced their chances for survival and reproduction in the African jungle earn them felony convictions in civilized countries.
Whites and Orientals have low crime rates everywhere in the world that we live because for five thousand years the civilizations we have created and maintained have been killing criminals, along with their crime genes.
This is why a criminal justice system that is effective for whites and Orientals is ineffective for blacks. It is why the black crime rate rose during and after the civil rights movement.
Oh please master of facts, define for Shooter what you mean when you say "blacks" and Whites" and "Orientals". Cause Shooter has been brainwashed to accept the proven geneticist research findings that there is more variation within geographic groups than there is between them. Simply, the tribal Africans of sub Sahara Africa have greater variation in their collective genetic maps than do African Americans compared to Koreans.
So you need to explain to Shooter how to reliably identify a "black" or a "white" or a "Oriental".
You know, so Shooter will know which groups to vilify, and which ones to worship.
Previously I have explained the nature of racial differences and how a person's race can be detected.
I have long ago tired of trying to push facts into your narrow mind.
You have never define what you mean by race.
I'm just saying, I'd take that ass whooping for 3.8.
Yes the riots dead end abruptly after the inauguration of Richard Nixon because he ran on a law and order platform and recalcitrant blacks realized that they would not be further enabled to act like spoiled children as they were under the Johnson administration which made Johnson the worst president of the 20th century perhaps second to Woodrow Wilson .
This is the same reason that Iran freed The American hostages on the very day that Ronald Reagan took office . The very day !
I believe that Obama actually encouraged the targeting of police officers by publicly discrediting police agencies throughout this country .
His weak willed approach in relation to Iran Will require a forceful response to let that miserable regime know that there is a new sheriff in town as well .
One of the leading national issues during that year was the release of 52 Americans Americans being held hostage in Iran since November 4, 1979. Reagan won the election. On the day of his inauguration—in fact, 20 minutes after he concluded his inaugural address—the Islamic Republic of Iran announced the release of the hostages. The timing gave rise to an allegation that representatives of Reagan's presidential campaign had conspired with Iran to delay the release until after the election to thwart President Carter from pulling off an "October surprise"...
several individuals—most notably former Iranian President Abulhassan Banisadr, former Naval intelligence officer and U.S. National Security Council member Gary Sick; and former Reagan/Bush campaign staffer and White House analyst Barbara Honegger — have stood by the allegation.
I've never been much of a fan of conspiracy theories .
I think that John Kennedy was actually killed by Oswald acting alone.
I don't believe that UFOs have been hidden by the government .
I don't believe the Russians were trying to elect Donald Trump
I don't believe that Barack Obama was wiretapping the Trump campaign
And I also don't believe that there was a big conspiracy involving the Reagan administration at this time as far as the hostages in Iran go .
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence .
And why would Iran have an interest in helping the incoming Reagan government ?
And jimmy Carter did tried to pull a so-called October surprise by trying to free the hostages but like everything else he did he was completely incompetent
You are about half right and half wrong.
My 2nd wife did all of the interviews with the Oswald Family, his mother would not talk to anyone else. Yes he did it alone.
Yes, our government has hid UFOs. they hide anything they think you cannot handle. Leave it up to a politician.
Russians had nothing to do with Trump beating Hillary. Hillary was the reason Trump is president.
Obama did wire tap Trump and quite a few other people.
There wasn't any big conspiracy involving Reagan.
Hope I have helped you some.
This is nothing I feel very strongly about but if there were UFOs I can't imagine that somebody would not have managed to be a whistleblower about it by now .
Maybe there are things I don't know. It seems like a cover-up would involve a lot of government people.
Like I said it's not a huge issue for me in much the same way that I don't care about Sasquatch
Alien Xcebian Spy right here!
That is a valid question.
The story is that people in the Reagan campaign promised to send weapons to Iran in return for help in the election. Iran was at war with Iraq and needed weapons. We do know that the Reagan administration through Oliver North did send weapons to Iran.
Another story about the Reagan campaign is that a debate briefing book for Carter was stolen and given to Reagan to prepare for the debate.
Neither of these events were investigated as thoroughly as they needed to be. Many Democrats in Congress were intimidated by Reagan because they knew he carried their districts by greater margins than they did.
Well I heard about the briefing book and I'm not sure if it was ever decided that that happened But I will assume that it's true .
I was under the impression that Iran Contra happened many years later.
My biggest problem with the Reagan administration was Reagan's support for the rebels in Afghanistan and his insistence in creating it communications network between the rebels and Muslims all over the world. Reagan literally began to create an environment that led to Al Qaeda. He also helped to create the tunnel system in Afghanistan in his zeal to end the Soviet union .
I guess that hindsight is 2020 . And we were better off during the Cold War .
Bringing down the Russians in Afghanistan definitely emboldened radical Islam to believe that they did it themselves and if they could bring down the Russians they can certainly bring down America .
Of course What bin laden didn't understand was that America had a much better airlift operation than the Soviets over did.
Then of course the US mysteriously abanded that fight in order to begin an assault against Iraq.
But I digress
Even back in the Reagan era, the leftists still could not grasp the fact the the peple were tired of leftists policies, Iran then...Russia today.
Yes, history does repeat itself, 'cuz, the left will ever learn.
Even as I write this there is a van that has been pulled over in the street right in front of me and no less than four police cars are immediately behind it and some people have been taken into custody .
It all looks relatively peaceful and I think that's because nobody has resisted arrest
What continues to mystify me is that the left fights tooth and claw against everything that is conservative except when it comes to Islam .
Even our allies in the Middle East treat women like garbage . But I have never heard a radical feminist like Gloria Steinem make a peep about that .
Even Hillary Clinton this great supporter of feminism never said a single negative word about this issue.
The hypocrisy is amazing .
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