The only two things I can think of are engineering and mathematics.

Can you think of any others ?

 

I would add the experimental sciences to the list.

A body of knowledge can only be considered to be objective when assertions can be proven in ways everyone has to agree.

The only to indicate truth in economics is to measure what followed an economic policy. Nevertheless, what followed was probably influenced by factors independent of the economic policy.

In the social sciences one always runs the risk of the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Also, assertions in the social sciences arouse emotions in ways assertions in mathematics and the experimental sciences do not. People have a tendency to believe what they want to believe.

 

The best corrective for political correctness is to maintain an open market for facts and ideas. This is particularly true in the sensitive field of racial differences. Geneticists should be able to present their findings without risking their careers.

 

I like mathematics because it's the only discipline where I literally cannot think of a single principle that is ever proven to be wrong .

Perhaps mathematicians will disagree with me about this.

I think engineering can be improved upon but I don't see how it could ever become political . Perhaps engineers will disagree with me about this

 

Unfortunately we both know that open conversation at the university level is almost for bidden because we have learned the truth and there's no science looking any further . It pisses me off but what can you do ? Any nation that will offer a true open conversation will probably overtake us but that's another issue . Again I suggest to all members that they read the closing of the American mind by Alan bloom

 

The Chinese and the Japanese lack our taboos against research into the genetic reasons for differences in intelligence between individuals and average differences between races. Research in these fields will continue in China and Japan.

It is ironic that "Communist" China, which was once in the thrall of Maoist dogma, is now free of the dogma that "Race is only a social construct."

 

Here are a couple articles on opposite ends of the argument ... with the same result.

British University Bans All "Politically Incorrect" Words: Here's The List...
Cardiff Metropolitan University is at the forefront of political correctness sensitivity. The University Bans Lecturers from Using any Sexist or Insensitive Words. The list of banned words is wider than you might think. Here are some examples: mankind, homosexual, housewife, manmade, and sportsmanship.






U of T professor attacks political correctness, says he refuses to use genderless pronouns
TORONTO — As part of an hour-long YouTube lecture on political correctness, University of Toronto professor and clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson is objecting to the Trudeau government’s Bill C-16, which proposes to outlaw harassment and discrimination based on gender identity and gender expression under the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code.

Peterson, a white male in his mid 50s, also decries what he claims are attempts by the university to transform its human resources department into “a politically correct institution.”

The news was first reported by the University of Toronto student newspaper, The Varsity.

University of Toronto professor Jordan Peterson in a 2010 lecture.

YouTubeUniversity of Toronto professor Jordan Peterson in a 2010 lecture.
Gender identity is defined by the Ontario Human Rights Commission as “each person’s internal and individual experience of gender. It is their sense of being a woman, a man, both, neither, or anywhere along the gender spectrum.” The commission defines gender expression as “how a person publicly presents their gender,” which can include behaviour and outward appearance such as dress, hair, make-up, body language and voice, as well as a person’s name and the pronouns they use.

Peterson is critical of these terms and their definitions as outlined by the commission, and compares the changes Bill C-16 would bring about to the policing of expression in “totalitarian and authoritarian political states.”

He also argues against the existence of non-binary gender identities, or those that are not exclusively masculine or feminine‍, saying “I don’t think there’s any evidence for it.”

Peterson said that if a student asked him to be referred to by a non-binary pronoun, he would not recognize their request: “I don’t recognize another person’s right to determine what pronouns I use to address them. I won’t do it.”

Peterson told the National Post that he decided to make the video and go public with his views after receiving a memo from university HR outlining new mandatory anti-racist and anti-bias training. “That disturbs me because if someone asked me to take anti-bias training, I think I am agreeing that I am sufficiently racist or biased to need training,” he said in an interview.

Peterson also said he doesn’t believe there is sufficient research to show these kind of HR practices, which he said may constitute “psychological intervention,” are effective.

He said he is concerned the university is consulting groups like the Black Liberation Collective on campus policy matters, noting he respects their right to exist and protest, but questioning their credentials to offer expert opinion. “I have no problem with them, people can organize themselves however they want, but I have an issue with U of T considering them a legitimate policy advisor,” he said. “I don’t think there is any evidence U of T is a racist university. I think we have done an extraordinary job of building a multi-racial and multi-ethnic university and community, better so than almost all schools.”

“The pronoun issue is straightforward,” added Peterson. “I won’t mouth the words of ideologues, because when you do that you become a puppet for their ideology.” The professor said he believes the writing in the Ontario Human Rights Commission’s terms and definitions is in his view “incoherent, over-inclusive and all encompassing” and has had a disproportionate impact on language used by other government bodies, including the federal Department of Justice. He said he fears Bill C-16 could lead to legal action against legitimate discussion and research on gender and sexuality, including research on the “biological origins of gender.”

However, a legal expert says the proposed legislation will advance human rights from a practical and symbolic standpoint. “Bill C-16 is important and plays a practical role because it will allow trans people a means with which to seek redress under the law,” said Kyle Kirkup, a professor at the University of Ottawa Faculty of Law who specializes in laws regulating contemporary norms of gender identity and sexuality. “It also plays the symbolic function of letting trans people know that the government recognizes them.”

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And a colleague at U of T said that Peterson is wrong in his assumptions and is failing to live up to his responsibilities as a faculty member. “All that is necessary to invalidate a faulty claim is one counterexample,” said physics professor A.W. Peet. “Here, I am that counterexample. I openly defy Peterson by existing: I am nonbinary and transgender.”

Peet said that, while Peterson has a right to free speech, he is held to a higher standard as a professor, which includes a professional duty of care for the entire student body: “I refuse to stand by and just let him hurt vulnerable genderqueer members of the university community… Academic freedom was never intended to be used as a general-purpose shield against professorial accountability.”

“If Peterson fears the Trudeau government passing Bill C-16 into law, he should smarten up his act by upgrading his ethics circuits, not by trying to marshal opposition to basic human rights protections for people he refuses to even try to understand,” added Peet.

The University of Toronto said there have been no formal complaints about Peterson’s video lecture. “If we do receive any we will consider them through our policies, which are consistent with provincial legislation,” said spokesperson Althea Blackburn-Evans.

“Universities are places where people exchange ideas and have different opinions,” she added. “Discussion and debate happen at U of T every day.”

Blackburn-Evans noted that Professor Peterson’s views are his own, and that “all members of our community are expected to comply with U of T’s policies and guidelines around creating a teaching and learning environment that is free from discrimination and harassment on any of the prohibited grounds.”

In his video, Peterson suggests the “overrepresentation of social justice warrior-type activists” in government may have impacted the tabling of legislation, noting also “our current Premier (Kathleen Wynne) is lesbian in her sexual preference.” He goes on to claim the LGBTI community “has become extraordinarily good at organizing themselves and has a fairly pronounced and very, very sophisticated radical fringe.”

Peterson, who is an expert on personality and the psychology of religion, joined the University of Toronto in 1998. Prior to that he taught at Harvard University.

 

Good .
That will give shooter a chance to start arguing with people from other races .

 

I am assuming that the word homosexual is objectionable because they prefer to be called gay.

Gay is a word that actually existed in the English lexicon and had a specific meaning and now it's been utterly lost to the language. It's been co-opted .

I'm certain that homosexual had negative social connotations so we simply change the word until the word gay has negative social connotations and then well have to change it again.

It's like the word retarded which is been changed to Academically challenged until that becomes negatively viewed.

This whole thing is a losers game and frankly just reminds me of fashion .

 

I might be able to add medicine to my list of things that cannot be made politically incorrect .

The only way I think that it could be is that right now certain races are seen to have certain tendencies to certain diseases and that will probably have to go away in today's climate

 

This PC movement has to be close to a tipping point as it has reached the heights of ridiculousness.

 

It just seems like the more people try to accommodate the politically correct the more demanding the politically correct become

 

Perhaps we should get a Headstart on a few terms like we can't call them wheelchairs anymore so we can call them mobile ambulatory aids definitely not cripple movers.

Perhaps the term murderer is derogatory and we should call them not Killing challenged .

Thieves could be called property liberators

 

UC Berkeley students threaten to sue over Ann Coulter visit

Students at the University of California at Berkeley who invited conservative commentator Ann Coulter to speak on campus are threatening to sue the university if it does not find a proper time and venue for her to speak next week.

Harmeet Dhillon, who represents the Berkeley College Republicans, said in letters sent Friday to UC Berkeley’s Interim Vice Chancellor Stephen Sutton and chief attorney Christopher Patti that if Coulter is not allowed to give a speech on campus on April 27 she will file a lawsuit in federal court because the university is violating the students’ constitutional right to free speech.

"It is a sad day indeed when the birthplace of the Free Speech Movement, is morphing before our eyes into the cemetery of free speech on college campuses," Dhillon wrote.

School officials told the Berkeley College Republicans on Tuesday, and the nonpartisan Bridge USA which coordinated the event, that it was being cancelled due to security concerns.

 

I don't listen to much she says BUT it sets a dangerous precedent not allowing a controversial speaker to speak publicly, especially at colleges/universities where young adults are supposed to be expanding their minds and not closing them off ...

We are raising a society of pussies and here is further proof. Google this and see what you find ???

 

We might have to change the words "smoking hot" to "anatomically gifted" lol.

You want to watch a feminist go ballistic, call a woman a "beaver" in their presence ...

 

Are scientists still allowed to call it a "Black Hole" or did someone cry about that too ???

"The absence of color entry point" ...

I feel sorry for society as a whole, if the USA, Russia or N Korea doesn't start WW3 some asshole is going to PC us to death.