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  1. Bitsman

    Bitsman Marquis de Sade

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    My take.... Sen McCain sacrificed a great deal as a POW during Vietnam... He was torchered beyond belief.. He lived thru it, They did not break him... That my fiends is something every single American should hold in the highest regard. Yes... The term HERO can and should be used in reference to his military service.

    THEN THINGS CHANGED....

    I think his first few terms as an elected official he did good work.. He was a stand up guy.. He had his principles and he lived by them.. To hell with what other thought... That is Admirable and deserving of respect... Things started to change.. I think he began to feel entitled to his position... He really was never challenged... He would say the right things.. get another term... He railed against Obama Care.. Voting several times for its repeal... Then, When his vote would REALLY REALLY matter... he blinked... That is NOT what HEROS do... Now we find out he was an integral part of the beginning of this whole Russia Collusion thing.. getting that pack of lies into the hands it needed to getinto to start this whole waste of time money and effort...

    In the end Sen McCain was just another piece of shit politician that cared more about lining his own pockets then he did about anything else... Sad really.... Dont even get me started on his FUCKED IN THE HEAD DAUGHTER....
     
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      I think he was an amazing man
       
      HdAbzGrl, Mar 20, 2019
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      Thats like saying "I like Chili Dogs"... Ok.. Cool... Yeah Chili dogs are great... What specifically do you like about Chili Dogs?
       
      Bitsman, Mar 20, 2019
    3. steve_vme
      No one can become a Hero by killing or causing human suffering. Vietnam was an illegal war, to begin with.
       
      steve_vme, Mar 20, 2019
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  2. Rixer

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    Oh Jesus.
     
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      Nice guy actually.. Met him once years ago...
       
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  3. Truthful 1

    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    mc cain sucked when he was alive and he still sucks dead sorry . He had all the chances to be a Great Man , but choose to be a douche bag . He's greatest gift to the country was Obama. Need i say more . ( that's sarcasm for those who don't get it )
     
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    Compared to Donald Trump? Definitely a Hero. Compared to thousands of other veterans not so much. Touting ones military service or allowing any one else to do it for you, is something that should always be avoided.
    Fifty-eight thousand two hundred and twenty Americans never made it home. George Bush Sr. and Kennedy were shamelessly made out to be war heroes rather than just doing their bit.
    Perhaps it's Hollywood pandering to the public need for a hero that is responsible. I don't see Donald Trump going down in history as any type of hero. Well billionaires may disagree.
     
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      As he should be . I wouldn't bring him back up but Trump was right . Trump is no hero correct. but he will go down in history as the greatest president next to George Washington .
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 20, 2019
    3. NoOneFamous
      Donny will be regarded as the worst President we've ever had
       
      NoOneFamous, Mar 20, 2019
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      Only by you . what he's done in the last two years will keep us working for 20. Something I'm sure you know nothing about
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 20, 2019
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      There is no way Trump will ever be considered a great president like Washington. Trump is to full of himself. He's the idiot.
       
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      Full of himself lol. Oh And Zobama and Hillary are not correct lmao
       
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  5. NoOneFamous

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    McCain is dead, Donny keeps attacking him because Donny is a lesser man. McCain stood tall while in the service. His vote on the ACA repeal and replace was the act of a good man, since the Trump Cult had nothing to replace it with.
     
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      I Repeat McCain was an idiot
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 20, 2019
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      I seem to recall things differently.... In all his vote for repeal there was never a plan for replacement either... At least not one that would pass Congress or be signed by Dear Leader Obama... You make a point with no distinction really... Its possible that if it had been repealed it would have gotten them all off their fat asses to design a program that worked without MASSIVE infusions of Tax payer dollars. Instead we ended up with a D-Rat version of a good Face Fuck... Nutcase Nancy and Kamal Toe Harris might enjoy those.. Not really my thing...
       
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      Call it Obamacare all you would like. ACA was the Republican plan. Obama got weak kneed and settled for it. The Republicans that wanted it replaced had eight years to make a plan. They really only wanted it repealed.
       
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      BigSuzyB Obamacare was not about making healthcare for affordable, that evidence is on display.

      ACA was a government takeover of the healthcare system.

      There are measures that could have been legislatively installed to lower costs, yet those measures were ignored by the leftists that were in charge from '08 until they lost the House in '10.
       
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  6. Truthful 1

    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    McCain one of my favorite subjects lol
    I love hearing the leftie, libbies , defend the guy who wouldn't give them the time of day .
     
    1. Bitsman
      He was saved their Messiah's legacy... For that they are now required to suck his cock for eternity...
       
      Bitsman, Mar 20, 2019
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      My Messiah is not a politician
       
      NoOneFamous, Mar 21, 2019
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      Not any more you mean
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 21, 2019
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  7. aesopstails

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    In my eyes, every honorably discharged veteran is a hero, even those who were drafted versus volunteering. Their service, no matter how brief, helped to protect our lives and freedom.

    Those who used their wealth or privilege to avoid military service are the worst kind of cowards.

    No matter what one thinks of McCain, it is ridiculous that such a dishonorable character as Trump feels that he is qualified to register any opinion at all about ANYONE else since his own behavior is so horrible. He is a pathological liar and an awful bully. I could never respect such a low-life who shows such little respect for others.
     
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      I a bad mood are we lol
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 21, 2019
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      I just wonder Are everybody who served army in hot point, are heros, or some of them who did really heroic things, and one more thing those pilots who 20 years ago bombed Serbia pieceful cities, were also heros, who defended USA values,and freedom... ups.??????
       
      Ficxa 479, Mar 21, 2019
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      I guess you folks got no understanding what a real hero is. cause you got non of them. never ever.
       
      Ficxa 479, Mar 21, 2019
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      Bullshit. We have plenty of heroes, though our current president will never be one of them.

      War is a horrible business on all sides, and mistakes are often made. The U.S. is not alone in this. Service members must follow the orders they receive (again, not solely U.S. military) and until we as a planet eliminate all wars, there will be casualties of both military and civilians.

      Why don’t you tell us who your heroes are and how they never made a single error or questionable move?
       
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      How can killing people make us better? Only psychopaths kill, people kill just because someone said to do it. In our Constitution it is clear, We the People in order to form a more perfect Union, Union is a noun, person place and things of earth. Make a human more perfect, nothing in the Constitution allows war or any type of human suffering.
       
      steve_vme, Mar 22, 2019
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  8. msman

    msman Porn Star Banned!

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    Cancer may have played a part in McCain's change from hero to idiot.
    It should be very easy for everyone to see that when he picked his vice president.
     
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  9. shootersa

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    McCain was indeed a hero.
    He served his country for most of his life with distinction and honor. He sacrificed much defending this country and what it stands for.

    One does not have to agree with his politics to see McCain as a hero.

    One should be able to disagree with McCain's politics and not be villified by trump haters.

    But then, freedom of speech is one of the things McCain fought and sacrificed for.

    So spew on, haters, spew on, in memory of John McCain.
     
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      I get the point I just love the screw with John McCain. He was a disgrace sorry no offense Long tall Sally
       
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      McCain isn't the disgrace. The disgrace comes from those here who are putting down a true patriot who served his country and spent time being tortured because of it. For the most part those who are making these pathetic comments are mostly the sissy's who didn't serve at all. That dear sirs is is the true disgrace here and we know who you are.
      Tsk..Tsk.........
       
      Rixer, Mar 21, 2019
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      That's ok lol. Mc Cain ditched way to soon. I would have liked to see him have eight more years .
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 21, 2019
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      He served his country for most of his life with distinction and honor. He sacrificed much defending this country and what it stands for. Interesting, Constitution, the prefix con means together, stitut means standing up, and the suffix ion means action. No one in the world could tell me what We the People stand up for because the real Charters of Freedom is not taught in any school.
       
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  10. stumbler

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    And @shootersa once again you prove beyond reasonable doubt what a phony total hypocritical fraud you really are.

    If you really felt this way you would have said something like this when Trump's attacks started nearly a week ago. Instead of just posting a thread echoing what Trump was saying.

    https://forum.xnxx.com/threads/new-...iven-to-the-fbi-and-why.546806/#post-10203615

    And not waited until after you had read this


    And responded with this.

    And then came here with this pathetic and impotent attempt at revolutionary revisionism just to try and save face after the fact.

    You wear your own labels @shootersa because you live them.
     
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    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    The fraud proves shooters point.
    Shooter was pretty sure the fraud wouldn't be able to help himself.

    The hilarious part is that the fraud doesn't even see what he did.

    This level of stupid can only be achieved after years of delusion and hate.
     
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      Annoying
       
      Bitsman, Mar 20, 2019
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      So are you
       
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      Be nice girls
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 21, 2019
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    Whether you liked what he did or not, the man is dead. There is no reason to insult his memory now, except cowardice and feelings of inferiority.
     
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  14. msman

    msman Porn Star Banned!

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    Just being dead does not make a man any better or worse than he was when he was alive.
     
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  15. toni1388

    toni1388 Sex Lover

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    A WAR CRIMMIAL, who was one of MANY politicians from the PAST AND CURRENT administrations from both DEMONcrates and rePUBICan parties, who ARE RESPONSIBLE for ALL the death of many civilians in many parts of the world, HIDING under the cloak of demockcrazy and human right.
    THESE war crimmials may have escaped punishment for causing so many death in the current world, the ghosts of those dead WILL BE waiting for them in the hell.
     
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    He was not the man many think he was. If not for his father and grandfather you would have never heard of him.
     
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      Just like so many others.
       
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  17. shootersa

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    Senator McCain served his country in uniform.

    Who his ancestors were is irrelevant.

    Anyone's opinion of his success or failure while in uniform is irrelevant. He was discharged honorably and did not shy away from danger.

    Anyone's opinion of him as a politician is irrelevant.

    That he willingly served his country in uniform is the only issue that matters when considering whether to call him a hero or not.
     
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  18. Truthful 1

    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    I don't know why trump went down this road again , I guess he trying to prove a point , that most smart people already know . Mc Cain was a guy who fooled me till I seen him debate Obama . Then I started to know the guy . ................ Let him go Trump. We know who was and what he was . His father and Grandfather are probably kicking his ass Right now .
     
    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      Rump went down this road to prove that he is a nonsensical idiot that believes his own words are more important than reality.

      Now as to McCain being a hero or not, any loser that has to question whether a man that served his nation on multiple fronts, was taken prisoner of war and did not sell out their nation, and represented his constituents honorably up until about the day that he passed. I do not agree with many of his political stances but I do respect that the man had the guts and fortitude to stand by what he said and did, he dedicated his life to his family and the country no matter how many had attacked him for those beliefs. Attacking a dead man only serves to prove that Ol Bonespurs has no class, no education, and no pride in America.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Mar 21, 2019
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      mc cain attack first , And never stopped attacking till the day he died . A point trump is trying to make in his own goofball way. . But his atemped to show others such as yourself what reality is waste of time ,and makes him look foolish
       
      Truthful 1, Mar 21, 2019
    3. Sanity_is_Relative
      Trump has done nothing but prove he is a loser and an abusive piece of shit that has the intelligence of a stone as have you truthless1.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Mar 21, 2019
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    This all of course assumes you are beholden to Trump. And you sound like you're very comfortable in his pocket.
     
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  20. freethinker

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      Perfect proof of my point.... His MILITARY service should be held in the highest regard... You dont get a chestful of lettuce like that for nothing...

      Thank you
       
      Bitsman, Mar 21, 2019
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      You certainly don't get it by taking deferments and begging off for bone spurs.
       
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