MYTH
The death penalty deters violent crime and makes society safer.

FACT
Evidence from around the world has shown that the death penalty has no unique deterrent effect on crime.
Many people have argued that abolishing the death penalty leads to higher crime rates, but studies in the USA and Canada, for instance, do not back this up.
In 2004 in the USA,
the average murder rate for states that used the death penalty was 5.71 per 100,000 of the population
as against 4.02 per 100,000 in states that did not use it.

In 2003 in Canada, 27 years after the country abolished the death penalty the murder rate had fallen by 44 per cent since 1975, when capital punishment was still enforced.

Far from making society safer, the death penalty has been shown to have a brutalizing effect on society.
State sanctioned killing only serves to endorse the use of force and to continue the cycle of violence.

https://www.amnesty.org/download/Documents/48000/act500062008en.pdf

 

MYTH
Individuals are less likely to commit violent crimes, including murder, if they know they will face punishment by execution.

FACT
This argument supposes that criminals study and anticipate the consequences of getting caught, and decide that a long term of imprisonment is acceptable, whereas execution is not.

Many crimes are committed on the spur-of-themoment, leaving little opportunity for potential punishments to influence whether the crime is committed in the first place as criminals do not believe they will be caught and held to account. The death penalty may even cause further violence.
Execution is the ultimate sanction a state can inflict upon a person. Once criminals have knowingly committed a capital offence, they no longer have any interest in lessening their potential punishment by not committing further murders or other offences. For example, if armed robbery carries the death penalty, the robber loses nothing by committing murders while attempting to flee.

(Op cit)

 

And that is also how we know Jimmy is a paid PR hack that might have even created that bullshit in his own shop or is part of the network pushing it. But its already been busted for fake bullshit.

Was the El Paso Shooting Suspect’s MyLife Page Altered by ‘Leftists’?
Pranksters and critics play politics with online info in the wake of a mass shooting.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/el-paso-suspect-mylife/

 

How did these murderers in France get their hands on these assault rifles? How did they get into France or even into the EU. Were they home made or did they come from overseas? My point which people are meticulously avoiding is that these incredibly strict laws did nothing to prevent these attacks. To say that well these were just outliers is to miss the point. To say that these were just 2 incidents, so what, is willfully ignorant because it is far more than 2, as I demonstrated in a previous post.

My point again is to say that as long as there is a market for assault rifles there will be a supply.

 

Are you serious? Are you thinking about what you’re saying?

The point is to lessen gun violence. You do that by restricting access to guns.

If you’ve got four kids in a sandbox, and one of them picks up a rock and throws it at another kid, the answer is to not give everybody a rock and say throw it whenever you feel like it, the answer is to take all the rocks away.

The fact that gun violence in Europe is an outlier is a clear indication that restrictive gun laws work better there than the open gun laws that are existent in the United States.

 

Statistically it can be shown that the death penalty is not effective as a deterrent but why should people who have murdered be allowed to live? Tax payers are doubly victimized and if the murderer has killed before what incentive does he have not to murder again in prison?

 

Got a feeling most these people have no clue what The Stars and Bars is... Here ya go

 

I wasn’t aware that the countries south and very close to the United States were free of mayhem.

 

I see it reported , the El Paso murderer
drove nine hours to get there.

Can't get more premeditated than that.

 

I believe you said that we should be thankful for the oceans that separate us from all the mayhem.

Sadly there is plenty of mayhem here in this continent and this hemisphere that bleeds here into the states.

 

Yes. This should be a capital crime.

 

MYTH
The death penalty deters violent crime and makes society safer.

FACT
Evidence from around the world has shown that the death penalty has no unique deterrent effect on crime.
Many people have argued that abolishing the death penalty leads to higher crime rates, but studies in the USA and Canada, for instance, do not back this up.
In 2004 in the USA,
the average murder rate for states that used the death penalty was 5.71 per 100,000 of the population
as against 4.02 per 100,000 in states that did not use it.

In 2003 in Canada, 27 years after the country abolished the death penalty the murder rate had fallen by 44 per cent since 1975, when capital punishment was still enforced.

Far from making society safer, the death penalty has been shown to have a brutalizing effect on society.
State sanctioned killing only serves to endorse the use of force and to continue the cycle of violence.

 

Only a brainwashed sickening parrot would say something as utterly stupid as mayhem bleeding into the US from other countries when we have blood running like a river in our own streets from young white males born in raised here.

I got your mayhem right here.



Nine dead and 27 injured in less than 30 seconds with an assault weapon and 100 round drum.

 

The tree of easy access to firearms must occasionally be fertilized with the blood of those who were just going about their business.

 

The notion of markets is undervalued among liberals. And this is to their peril.

When Ronald Reagan was first elected liberals blamed his winning the election on the fact that the country had become more racist and misogynistic. So the thinking was to verbally attack the very “consumers” necessary to win elections. So of course the part of the electorate needed to achieve election victories felt liberals were saying that they knew better than them and that they were out of touch with their values.

By the 1980s liberals were turning increasingly to the Supreme Court to win their agendas and a large part of the American people again were looking at liberals as people who were not interested in what the electorate wanted because they were turning to the least democratic institution to achieve their agenda.

Fortunately the court is more centrist now.

 

Yes mayhem.

Venezuela. El Salvador, Guatemala even Mexico.

Mayhem. The word is hardly hyperbolic.

 

One thing we always see with mass shootings in the Trump era is his supporters trying to distract and deflect from the fact Trump both arms and inspires them.

 

They're saying his own sister was one of the victims.

 

Okay.
Are you saying that we have mass shootings because liberals lost too many elections?