What the fuck are you complaining about ?

Taiwan showed you ,
we showed you .

Not our fault you lot ignored the obvious.

 

Shitty time

 

Coronavirus Deaths Are Rising Again in the US
By Associated Press and Spectrum News Staff Nationwide
PUBLISHED 2:15 PM ET Oct. 26, 2020Deaths per day from the coronavirus in the U.S. are on the rise again, just as health experts had feared, and cases are climbing in nearly every state, despite assurances from President Donald Trump over the weekend that “we’re rounding the turn, we’re doing great.”

What You Need To Know

• Average coronavirus deaths per day across the U.S. are up 10% over the past two weeks, according to data from Johns Hopkins University
  
• Confirmed COVID-19 infections per day are rising in 47 states, and deaths are up in 34
  
• The U.S. set a single-day record of over 83,000 new cases Friday
  
  
  • On Saturday, the following day, the U.S. recorded over 83,000 new cases againWith Election Day just over a week away, average deaths per day across the country are up 10% over the past two weeks, from 721 to nearly 794 as of Sunday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. Confirmed infections per day are rising in 47 states, and deaths are up in 34.

Health experts had warned that it was only a matter of time before deaths turned upward, given the record-breaking surge in confirmed cases engulfing the country. Deaths are a lagging indicator — that is, it generally takes a few weeks for people to sicken and die from the coronavirus.

The virus is blamed for more than 8.6 million confirmed infections and over 225,000 deaths in the U.S., the highest such totals anywhere in the world, with a widely cited model from the University of Washington projecting about 386,000 dead by Feb. 1.

Deaths are still well below the U.S. peak of over 2,200 per day in late April. But experts are warning of a grim fall and winter, as “pandemic fatigue” — or weariness with wearing masks and staying away from others — takes hold and cold weather forces people indoors, where the virus can spread more easily.

The seven-day rolling average for daily new cases hit a record high on Sunday of 68,767, according to Johns Hopkins, eclipsing the previous mark of 67,293, set in mid-July.

The U.S. recorded more than 83,000 new cases on both Friday and Saturday — the highest marks ever — though testing has expanded dramatically over the course of the outbreak, making direct comparisons problematic.

The true number of infections is thought to be far higher because many Americans have not been tested, and studies suggest people can be infected without feeling sick.

Fears about the virus’s toll on the economy — and fading hopes that Washington will be able to deliver more relief anytime soon — had stocks plummeting in afternoon trading on Wall Street. The S&P 500 was 2.3% lower and on track for its worst day in more than a month. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was down more than 800 points, or almost 3%.

In the Texas border city of El Paso, authorities instructed people to stay home for two weeks and imposed a 10-p.m.-to-5-a.m. curfew because of a surge that has overwhelmed hospitals. The state has designated part of the city’s civic center as a hospital.

Violators of the curfew are subject to $500 fines, though the order does not apply to people who are going to or from work or are out for essential reasons, such as food shopping and health care.

“We are in a crisis stage,” El Paso County Judge Ricardo Samaniego, the county’s top elected official, as he issued the stay-at-home order over the weekend.

On Monday, the county reported a record high in daily cases, with 1,443. The county had 853 patients hospitalized because of the virus, up from 786 a day earlier.

Just last week, the president during the last presidential debate downplayed the virus’s effect in Texas, saying: “There was a very big spike in Texas, it’s now gone.”

The state has provided over 900 medical personnel to El Paso, some of whom will staff the convention center site.

On Sunday, White House chief of staff Mark Meadows said that “we’re not going to control the pandemic” and that the focus should be on containment and treatment.

Trump, who spent several days in the hospital after contracting the virus, said repeatedly over the weekend that the country is “rounding the turn.” His remarks came amid another outbreak in the White House inner circle. Several close aides to Vice President Mike Pence tested positive, including his chief of staff.

“We want normal life to resume,” Trump said Sunday. “We just want normal life.”

The U.S. has seen a steady increase in daily new cases over the past three weeks, accruing over 1.25 million over that period. Nearly a third of that came from Texas (8%), California (6%), Illinois (6%), Wisconsin (5%) and Florida (5%).

In Kentucky, the state shattered its record for the number of new cases per week, with 9,335.

“We must do better,” Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear said, adding that he plans to make recommendations soon for counties with high rates of infection.

Arizona is seeing a slow but steady increase in the average number of COVID-19 cases reported each day, reversing a decline in August and September. Deaths have reached nearly 5,900.

In Massachusetts, where Republican Gov. Charlie Baker has won accolades for helping to contain the virus, the Marblehead school district decided to shift to fully remote learning after students attended a house party where they shared drinks and didn’t wear masks.

Marblehead Superintendent John Buckey said in a letter to families on Sunday that he understood “young people’s desire to be together, as far away from adults as possible,” but that ignoring the rules was “potentially harming the community at large.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

Notice, very few hard numbers. Just, deaths are up 10% ...... new cases are up by many times that.

Hiding the fact that while the increase in new cases has been happening for almost 2 months but deaths have remained steady.

Why would it be that the media wants the public to still hear only doom and gloom?

 

Come on dotard.....you can figure this out?

We are learning about the virus, although some of us faster than others!

Thinskin

 

Taiwan over 23 million population

548 cases , and only 7 deaths to date

Vietnam over 97 million population

1148 cases , and only 35 deaths to date

heaven forbid I quote China , and inflame
hyper aperplexy
or hyper ventilation

but those are some hard figures for any that need some ,
and they're countries right in the thick of it ,
and in no way remote from it

 

Dutch dickhead focuses attention on the propaga da.

Good job.

 

You know very well what happened. Trump cut the CDC out and now gets all the data sent to him first so they can manipulate it and try to make it look not so bad.

We can't believe a word of this or you for that matter. Trump has managed to cut any independent agencies like the CDC out and has all the data sent to him. So all that is most probably nothing more than a pack of lies.

While in the meantime I had to go for my annual physical and both the nurse and my doctor wanted to know what my wife and I were doing, where we were going, and what kind of social interactions we were having.

And when I told them we weren't really doing much but staying home most the time the both said good because we cannot believe what our county and state health officials are telling us. They both said they are seeing multiples of people with COVID 19 far beyond what the country and state are admitting and its getting really dangerous where we live.

 

Gee I wonder what happened to Putin's vaccine? But now that his hero is ordering masks maybe Trump will follow and save 100,000 lives.

Putin Orders New National Mask Mandate as Russia Sees Second COVID-19 Spike

https://www.thedailybeast.com/putin...as-russia-sees-second-covid-19-spike?ref=home

 

Here's some more propaganda for you shitter!

'We're in a crisis stage': Texas border city reels from coronavirus surge

El Paso is dealing with triple the number of Covid cases of its previous peak and the health system is under strain

Donald Trump told a campaign rally on Saturday that the US was wasting money on coronavirus tests, claiming mass testing was only inflating the number of cases and fueling a media obsession while, in reality, “you don’t see death”.

But El Paso is seeing too much death right now.

Local funeral director Jorge Ortiz has been forced to put an overflow of bodies into a chapel at one of his six funeral home locations.

“We actually converted one of our chapels into a cooler. We’re not gonna be able to have visitations there any more, said Ortiz, general manager of Perches Funeral Homes in the west Texas city, on the border with Mexico.

He’s handled 290 coronavirus funerals in the city and four out of five families seeking his services this month are mourning the loss of a loved one who succumbed to the virus.

“We know this is real,” Ortiz said. “We face Covid every day.”

El Paso is experiencing its worst surge of the coronavirus outbreak and has become a hotspot not just in Texas, where cases and hospitalizations are rising, but in a country facing record infections.

El Paso county is dealing with 11,000 active cases, almost triple the number of cases it recorded in the previous July-August peak, and reported 1,216 new cases on Saturday, the highest single-day increase the county has seen. More than 850 people are now hospitalized with the virus, straining the local system.

Trump said during last week’s presidential debate: “There was a very big spike in Texas, it’s now gone.”

But even as Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, said on Sunday that the administration was “not going to control the pandemic”, El Paso is rushing to try.

County judge Ricardo Samaniego last week wrote to the Texas governor, Greg Abbott, asking for more assistance, including the use of a local army hospital to treat Covid-19 patients.

And on Sunday evening he imposed a 10pm to 5am curfew and urged county residents to stay home for two weeks.

Samaniego warned residents that those breaking curfew could be fined $500, though the curfew does not apply when going to or from work or out for essential services, including grocery stores and healthcare.

And anyone caught without a mask while unable to remain socially distant in public would face fines up to $250. He also declared that all county hospitals had reached capacity

“We are in a crisis stage,” he said.


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Active cases in El Paso county. Photograph: City and county public data, ElPasoStrong.org
Abbott is now sending 460 extra medical personnel to the area and announced that the El Paso convention center will be converted into a makeshift hospital to operate up to 100 beds.

A hospital nurse on the frontline in the city, who asked not to be named publicly in case it risked her job, told the Guardian: “We’ve had no open beds for a couple weeks, and if we do, it’s only for an hour or so before another patient comes in.”

She described a recent tough shift with a man in her care struggling to breathe.

“A patient started declining fast, so we called the ICU doctor who said to intubate. I told him I’d hold his hand the whole time, he never let go, not until we had him completely sedated.”

The man became one of 117 patients on ventilators in the county, a number way above what’s normal there, she said.

“In July, it was busy, but people weren’t as sick when coming in,” she said.

She wants the authorities to “shut the city down”.


A nurse beckons to people in a car at a mega drive-thru site at El Paso Community College Valle Verde campus in July. Photograph: Cengiz Yar/Getty Images
Jacob Cintron, CEO of El Paso county hospital district, acknowledged at a press conference last Thursday that: “Our hospitals are filling up, there is no doubt about that.”

Mayor Dee Margo explained on Friday in a phone interview with the Guardian that as long as El Paso continues to meet the demand for hospitalizations, he wouldn’t ask the governor for the necessary authorization to shut the city down.

Margo said: “I think people mostly are suffering from Covid fatigue and they’re letting their guard down.”

He was not talking about tiredness brought on by the virus, but impatience by ostensibly healthy people with having to observe control measures.

As numbers began rising in October, new restrictions were announced, such as restaurants closing at 9pm except for takeout and limiting capacity for other non-essential businesses.

Half of new cases in the October surge involve people under 40, and 22% of people testing positive reported visiting restaurants.

Bars are not technically open, as bars alone, but the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission (TABC) allows bars to partner with food trucks and operate as restaurants.

“It’s kind of, in my opinion, rigging the system,” Margo said. These pseudo-bar-restaurants have to prove to the TABC that 51% of their revenue is coming from food, not alcohol.

“We’ve heard all kinds of stories of people walking in to buy ‘a beer for a dollar and nachos for $15’,” Margo said and has asked the commission to step up the policing of violations.

Schools and colleges are continuing with remote learning for the time being. But while the mayor banned spectators for outdoor sports, exceptions were made for the El Paso Locomotive pro soccer club and the university football team, with reduced crowds.

Another complicated situation is presented by the southern border on the city’s doorstep and, in normal times, a continuous flow of people and vehicles between El Paso and its Mexican sister city, Juárez, on the other side of the Rio Grande. Margo said 19% of cases in a two-week period had reported cross-border travel.

“The concern is Mexico,” he said. “There are some significant spikes in Juárez, I have been supportive of making sure our bridges are not open to non-essential travel. I think there’s still some of that going on. If you’re a citizen or have a green card, you can go back and forth.”

Border restrictions are always difficult here, depressing business as well as social and humanitarian movement.

Ciudad Juárez last week went into virtual lockdown for two weeks to try to curb infection.

El Paso county’s coronavirus death toll so far is 575, with another 165 deaths listed as “under investigation”.

Hidalgo county, with similar characteristics to El Paso county, but sitting at the eastern end of the Texas-Mexico border, experienced a catastrophic Covid surge in July, where the death toll went from 238 by 11 July to more than 1,000 three weeks later.

Now public health officials are warning it’s El Paso’s turn for a deadly surge, and Margo said: “Unfortunately, I think we are prepared for that.”

The Associated Press contributed reporting

Thinskin

 

Here in the Netherlands we are two weeks into shelter at home.......

Current coronavirus rules will last well into December, Dutch prime minister says

The partial lockdown imposed in the Netherlands two weeks ago will last deep into December, prime minister Mark Rutte and health minister Hugo de Jonge told reporters on Tuesday evening. ‘You can assume that you will celebrate Sinterklaas in a small group, with no more than three people from outside your household,’ Rutte said. ‘It is still too early to say about Christmas.’ Ministers are also working on new recommendations for holiday travel, both in the Netherlands and abroad, and that could be published as early as later this week, Rutte said. ‘We are now at the crossroads,’ Rutte said. ‘It is too early to say if the measures of October 13 are having an impact and too early to take more measures. If we look at the figures, the week on week growth is slowing, but the number of new infections is still too big and must go down.’ In total, 67,543 positive coronavirus tests were registered with public health institute RIVM in the week up to Tuesday 10am, a rise of 22% on the previous week but well down on the figure two weeks ago. However, the coming days will be crucial, Rutte said. ‘You can assume we will hold another press conference next Tuesday and that all the options are being looked at.’ Should the number of positive tests not go down in the coming days, Rutte said he would not hesitate to act earlier. Loneliness However, people should be aware that far reaching measures will have a major impact on the economy, increase loneliness, and impact more heavily on students and on teachers, the prime minister said. The R factor, which indicates how the virus is spreading is still above 1, and must be brought down below that in the coming days, De Jonge said. ‘The speed at which it declines is also important when we are deciding about other measures,’ he said. Asked why more measures are not being introduced now to reduce the pressure on hospitals, De Jonge said the people being hospitalised now were infected last week. The hospital admission peak will be later than the peak in new infections, he said. Some 2,358 people are currently being treated in hospital for coronavirus, of whom 529 are in intensive care. More coronavirus patients continue to be admitted than are discharged, the patient coordination centre LCPS said earlier on Tuesday.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/...well-into-december-dutch-prime-minister-says/

Coronavirus cases rise 22% in week, growth rate continues to slow

In total, 67,543 positive coronavirus tests were registered with public health institute RIVM in the week up to Tuesday 10am, the agency has confirmed. That is a rise of 22% on the previous week and a drop of five percentage points on the week-earlier period, the RIVM said. The week before that, the increase in positive cases was 60%. ‘The number of new reports has again gone up less than in the previous week, and this is probably down to the measures introduced at the end of September and in mid October,’ the RIVM said in a statement. More tests were also carried out – 321,654 – which is up around 10,000 on the previous week, and the positive test rate was higher, at nearly 18%. The R factor, which indicates the infection rate, is virtually unchanged at 1.16. Only when the rate drops below 1 is the spread of the virus under control. Hospitals Some 2,358 are currently being treated in hospital for coronavirus, of whom 529 are in intensive care. More coronavirus patients continue to be admitted than are discharged, the patient coordination centre LCPS said. In total, 329 people died of coronavirus in the past week, well up on the 185 deaths recorded in the previous seven-day period. The rise takes the official total of people who have been tested for the virus and subsequently died to 7,142, although the real figure is well above 10,000.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/...ise-22-in-week-growth-rate-continues-to-slow/

Thinskin

 

I am glad to see you @thinskin . What the hell does this mean? It doesn't sound good.

Number of People With COVID-19 Antibodies Is Falling Rapidly, British Study Shows
https://www.thedailybeast.com/numbe...-falling-rapidly-british-study-shows?ref=home

 

From what I understand the antibody response is relatively short-lived (2-3 months) as it is for the common cold.

However the good news is the T-cell response last a little longer up to 6 months from what data there is on this.

What it means is that a vaccine is probably only going to protect us for one season then we will need a booster.

They may also have to tailor the vaccine like they do for the flu.

Thinskin

 

Thanks. I thought that might be what it means but I don't trust my own thinking about COVID.

 

It also blows completely out of the water any idea of herd immunity as a protection!

Thinskin

 

Isn't Covid the same as for the common cold and the flu? A more dangerous one to be sure, but in that family.

 

That insanity is not being lost on people as Trump and his Dr Death keep pushing it. Its now like just what the fuck about people being able to catch COVID 19 more than once don't you filthy rat lickers understand?

 

This is correct, from what I understand the genome of covid-19 is about 60% larger than the coronaviruses that cause the common cold.

https://coronavirusexplained.ukri.org/en/article/cad0003/

Thinskin

 

How long we been looking for a cold vaccine?

 

Generally colds do not kill us because they infect the sinuses and upper respiratory tract......covid-19 infects the lower lungs!

We have not spent anywhere near the amounts of money researching the common cold precisely because it is not fatal.

Thinskin