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    As I have repeatedly warned never EVER take @shootersa's word for a link he posted without actually checking the link becuase it will almost never say what @shootersa is trying to claim. But in this case take time for an extra laugh because @shootersa is actually posting a RAWSTORY article. Which according to him can never be believed.


    So let's take a look at what the story actually says, Which isn't that the J6 committee isn't sharing ANY of their evidence with DOJ. Instead they are not just handing over EVERYTHING they have for very good reasons.




    Why the J6 committee isn't sharing evidence with the DOJ
    Raw Story - Sep 15



    The House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol is continuing to refuse to share evidence with the Department of Justice after Congress returned from its August recess.

    "Recent moves by DOJ have raised questions about whether the select committee would simply hand over its mountain of materials to prosecutors to aid their investigation. But the panel’s lawmakers and aides insist they have no immediate plans to do so for three main reasons: avoiding any disruption to the upcoming Oath Keepers trial; neutralizing accusations from Trump allies that they’re conducting a law enforcement investigation in disguise; and protecting their work," Politico reported Thursday.

    Although the select committee is now citing the upcoming Oath Keepers trial, it was reported in May that the DOJ had requested the transcripts. The following month, after still not receiving the transcripts, DOJ was reportedly blindsided by Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony.

    Of course, the distance between the committee and DOJ has done nothing to neutralize GOP outrage over the investigations, suggesting the lack of cooperation is largely over the turf issue of "protecting their work."

    “We’re not in competition with the Justice Department,” Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) claimed.

    “We don’t want to interfere with anything that’s ongoing,” Thompson said. “We have information. We’ve just not engaged Justice at this point.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...fter Congress returned from its August recess.


    And here's the original RAWSTORY link.

    https://www.rawstory.com/doj-select-committee-transcripts/

    But remember the key words here are the J6 committee simply handing over everything they have to th DOJ at this point when they have most certainly handed over some evidence the DOJ has requested.



    Jan. 6 committee tees up 20 witness transcripts for DOJ
    The urgency of evidence-sharing between the select committee and Justice Department has appeared to escalate in recent weeks.


    By Kyle Cheney

    07/28/2022 10:18 PM EDT


    The Jan. 6 select committee is preparing to produce 20 witness interview transcripts to the Justice Department amid prosecutors’ increasingly public investigation of efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election.


    “The Select committee intends to share 20 transcripts,”
    a committee spokesperson said in a late-Thursday update on the panel’s engagement with the Justice Department. “We have no plans to share additional transcripts at this time.”


    The statement confirms what the committee’s chair, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), told POLITICO earlier Thursday: that the panel has developed a framework to begin sharing transcripts and evidence with federal prosecutors. But the statement also makes clear that any initial cooperation will be limited and, for now, won’t amount to the production of all 1,000 witness interview transcripts that prosecutors have been seeking since April.




    The committee did not indicate which transcripts would be part of the initial tranche provided to the Justice Department. However, prosecutors recently deposed two top aides to former Vice President Mike Pence — Marc Short and Greg Jacob — who both had previously interviewed with the select committee. It’s likely their committee interviews would be of high interest to Justice Department investigators.

    The urgency of evidence-sharing between the select committee and Justice Department has appeared to escalate in recent weeks, as the department has more publicly pursued evidence related to Trump’s inner circle.




    On Wednesday, Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Windom — who is leading the investigation of efforts to corrupt the transition of power via false presidential electors — revealed that he had obtained a search warrant to comb through a phone seized from John Eastman, an attorney who helped develop Trump’s strategy. Last month, FBI agents also raided the home of Jeffrey Clark, a former Justice Department official who was a key figure in Trump’s effort to pressure state legislatures to appoint pro-Trump electors in states won by Joe Biden.




    Although prosecutors have been asking since April to access the entire set of Jan. 6 committee transcripts, a decision to produce them en masse could create untold complications in hundreds of prosecutions related to the riot at the Capitol. Prosecutors are obligated under longstanding precedents and procedures to share evidence with defendants that may bear on their cases.

    Some defendants in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol have already sought to delay their trials in anticipation of a public release of the select committee’s transcripts. Thompson has repeatedly indicated that most, if not all, of the committee’s transcripts will be made publicly available eventually, though he has provided no time frame for that to occur, and the committee has increasingly indicated that it plans to continue its investigation through the end of the year.



    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/28/jan-6-witness-transcripts-doj-00048668






     
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    Shooter just knew when he saw that wrong story thing that stumbler would see the humor. He couldn't resist. Just funny, right?
    Guess not.
    So anyway, the point of the link, and the others, is that the committee isn't sharing all of what it has, is it?
    Lame excuses on the part of the committee not withstanding.

    But say, with appologies, lets have a little laugh at stumbler's expense, shall we?
    From Stumbler's post;
    "The statement confirms what the committee’s chair, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), told POLITICO earlier Thursday: that the panel has developed a framework to begin sharing transcripts and evidence with federal prosecutors. But the statement also makes clear that any initial cooperation will be limited and, for now, won’t amount to the production of all 1,000 witness interview transcripts that prosecutors have been seeking since April."

    So. On the one hand stumbler insists that Shooter's link in fact proves that the committee is handing over some stuff to the DOJ, so Shooter's claim that they aren't handing over anything is but another lie.

    Stumbler misread what shooter said. What Shooter said was, the committee isn't handing over EVERYTHING.
    Which even the wrong story article agrees with. As do the articles referring the DOJ demands for evidence.
    You see? The committee is handing over what it wants everyone to see, but not even a real portion of the 1,000 witness transcripts. Only 20 transcripts? really? 1,000 witnesses? Didn't even have that many rioting at the capital! much less the "millions of documents" and other stuff.

    Why is that Stumbler? You really buy their excuse about not interfering with a trial? Cause according to the wrong story article, DOJ wanted that information before the trial even started. Or, is it the "Don't want to give Trump ammunition to say they're conducting a criminal investigation" (wait. The committee isn't? Does that mean no referral to justice after all?) Or is it to protect "work product" (I.E. MINE!! ALL MINE!! STAY AWAY!!).

    Know what Shooter thinks about them not wanting to interfere with ongoing criminal trials for the rioters?
    Anything handed over to the DOJ they are required to turn over to defendants if it is relevant to their case. Could it be, they have evidence that some of those defendants might be innocent?
    Naw.
    The committee would never want anyone innocent to be convicted.
    Would they?
     
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    Russia Investigation Transcripts and Documents | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (house.gov)
    After House Intel Report, Here’s a List of All the Trump-Russia Investigations - Roll Call

    Okey Doke.
    Your turn.
    What you got for us?
    Anything the DOJ might be interested in?

    "Well, tell you what there @stumbler, if you have access to the Nancy Antoinette star chamber witness roster, the transcripts of all testimony given, and all the documents and other evidence it has in hand, share that with us, would you?"​
     
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    Betcha @stumbler won't keep his part of the bargain and give us links to all the testimony and evidence the J6 committee has.
    Any takers?:)
     
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      @shootersa, you could start by watching the hearings that presented to the public hours and hours of testimony, films, media posts...
       
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    Whats your obsession with the circus?
    Its been carefully orchestrated and edited.
    Not going to watch any more than already wasted time on: about 2 hrs.
     
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      And you hold your opinions without witnessing the hearings. I really can't understand how you can be so vocal (in writing) about something you haven't seen. Who's feeding you?
       
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    What is your obsession with the hearings?

    Even you must see how carefully they've been choreographed and edited?
     
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    It's difficult to be interested it seeing something when you know exactly what the purpose of the hearing is, what the hoped outcome will be and the entire premise is.
    The proceedings are a 5th Avenue, where all of the advertising agency's are in New York, focus group guided, Think Tank influenced, choreographed, Hollywood production with the sole purpose of trying to prevent someone from being eligible to hold office a second time.
    This is nothing more than elitist driven, tax payer boondoggle side show, that even some democrats think is a waste of time and money.
    IF, and IF my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle, the committee had any evidence that Donald J. Trump was or could be held responsible for what happened on January 6th, they would have already turned it over the the DOJ for legal proceedings. The fact that they haven't turned anything over and have denied requests by the DOJ for information, only shows they have ZIP, ZILCH, NADDA, NOTHING...except for fatter wallets.
     
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    One thing we can be sure of. The DOJ has been on a full court press to investigate january 6 for almost 2 years. They have indicted/charged over 800 assholes who rioted at the capital. We know a good percentage of them were willing to cut deals for reductions/dismissals.

    If they had uncovered evidence that trump was involved they'd been all over him.
    Hasn't happened.
    Cause it was a riot not an insurrection and trump had no part in it.
     
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      Actually, just the opposite...it was an insurrection and trump planned it with the help of others, then made sure his violent supporters showed up.
       
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    We will see every bit of it when they release their final report. In fact we will probably see most of it when the committee issues their interim report which should be soon. Which is the way all congressional committees do it. Which is how all congressional investigations are handled.


    The J6 committee has already explained their reasoning most important of which is Congress is the legislative branch and the DOJ is the executive branch. They are not supposed to be working hand and glove. And if the J6 committee was handing over everything they have to the DOJ treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans would be screaming its proof Copngress and President Biden are conspiring to get Trump.


    This is not true and comes from one of the most unreliable political hacks treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans have.


    The whole country was blindsided by Cassidy Hutchinson's bombshell testimony. As we should be. Hutchinson is their star witness and just blew the lid off the workings of the attempted coup, the conspiracy with treasonous conservative/America hating/Republican members of Congress, the armed insurrection, and Trump's freak out over the Secret Service refused to take him to the Capitol because the White House Counsel had said they would bet charged with multiple crimes if that happened.

    But the J6 committee certainly handed over the transcripts of her testimony after the hearing and the DOJ called her into testify to them.

    And here is where your argument gets laughable. None of this was released during the investigation. In fact they committee allowed many of Trump's inner circle to testify behind closed doors and none of it was conducted in the open with public hearings like the J6 committee has done. In fact the reason both the House and Senate investigations were handed over to the "Intelligence Committees" is because their rules allow them to skirt public meeting laws where they didn't have to hold their hearings in public.

    And it was only AFTER their investigation concluded did the committee release the list of their witnesses and transcripts. Those were true "star chamber" secret investigations

    Which is exactly what the J6 committee will do in their interim and final reports.

    So your whole argument is based on nothing more the glaring hypocrisy and "straw man" logical fallacies. Taking normal Congressional procedures and trying to accuse the J6 committee of something nefarious for just normal operating procedures. When in fact the J6 committee has actually been far more transparent with their public hearings.

    OK first this is another one of your usual dishonest ploys where the link you post doesn't really say what you are claiming. This is an article about ALL the investigations involving Trump not the HOUSE and SENATE investigations you are screaming about.

    But again all this information was mostly secret during the House and Senate investigations and only came out AFTER their investigations were completed and their final report issued. Which is exactly what the J6 committee will do when their investigations is completed. And the treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans on the committee not only did not cooperate with DOJ they tried to keep the transcripts secret from the American people but the Democrats on the committee made them release them because if the treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans didn't they would. Which is why they finally released them/


    But as long as we are on that subject let's take a look at what Ranking Member Adam Schiff had to say about it.



    Intel Committee Ranking Member Schiff Statement on Release of Majority’s Russia Report
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    Washington, April 27, 2018

    Washington, DC – Today, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), the Ranking Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, made the following statement after the Committee released the Majority’s Russia Report, accompanied by Minority Views:

    “The release of this Report and Minority Views follow the decision by committee Republicans to curtail their involvement in the Russia investigation. The Majority provided its draft one hundred fifty-page report to the Minority for review only days before the Committee was set to vote on its adoption. The content of the report changed daily, including on key assessments, demonstrating the Majority’s fundamentally flawed approach to the investigation and the superficial and political nature of its conclusions.

    “For example, in announcing their report on March 12, and in public appearances by Majority Members, the Majority took issue with the Intelligence Community’s central assessment that Russia sought to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election. But by the time the Majority sent its final report draft to the IC ten days later, it could no longer defend this claim and watered down its supposed findings.

    “Throughout the investigation, Committee Republicans chose not to seriously investigate — or even see, when in plain sight — evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, instead adopting the role of defense counsel for key investigation witnesses. In fact, we found evidence of collusion in the abundant secret meetings and communications between Trump campaign officials and associates such as Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos, Donald Trump Jr., Michael Flynn, Carter Page, and others, with emissaries and officials from, or linked to the Russian government. The Trump campaign and Administration’s efforts to deny, conceal and, when discovered, misrepresent what took place in these interactions with the Russians is powerful evidence of a consciousness of wrongdoing.

    “To determine whether this evidence of collusion reaches the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt of criminal conspiracy, we must await the report of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, since the Majority refused to interview the witnesses and obtain the documents necessary to find out. Regardless, there is no denying the abundant evidence that the Trump campaign sought, and was eager to accept, the assistance of a hostile foreign power bent on interfering in our election. It is also uncontroverted that the Russians assisted the Trump campaign through a surreptitious social media campaign, an overt paid media effort, an elaborate hacking and dumping operation targeting the DNC and Clinton Campaign Chair John Podesta, and potentially through additional means still under investigation.

    “Our Minority Views are not a substitute for a final report. We highlight just some of the unclassified information obtained by the Committee, but substantial additional classified and unclassified evidence further illustrates a concerted campaign by Russia to help the candidacy of Donald Trump, and the willingness of the Trump campaign to accept that help. The Minority Views also correct the record on a raft of misleading conclusions, insinuations, attempts to explain away inconvenient facts, and arguments meant to protect the President and his campaign found in the Republican report.

    “Because the public must now attempt to distinguish between Majority and Minority Views, we have sought to publicly release the transcripts so that the public might see some of that evidence for themselves and judge accordingly. We are confident that the record is at odds with the Republicans’ conclusions and that this transparency will help inform the public. We also believe that when the American people see the often-superficial nature of the questions posed to witnesses by the Majority and the degree to which they sought to help witnesses avoid answering important questions, it will see firsthand what a disservice the Majority has done to the nation. Apparently, the Majority fears the transcripts will show exactly that, and have violated their explicit commitment to release the transcripts now that they have concluded their work on the investigation. As recently as March 5, Rep. Conaway, the lead Republican on the Russia investigation, was asked whether he planned to release the transcripts. He replied, “Absolutely.”

    “The Majority claims they are reneging on their commitment to release the transcripts to protect the Special Counsel’s investigation. This claim is absurd on its face, given the lengths to which the Majority has gone to impeach the work of the FBI, DOJ and Special Counsel. We emphasize the following: The Minority checked with the Special Counsel’s Office to see if they had any objection to our releasing the transcripts and they expressed no reservation about our doing so. Indeed, we believe that giving the Special Counsel access to the transcripts through their publication will assist their efforts.

    “Finally, notwithstanding the decision by the Majority to end its work and turn its attention to counter-investigations designed to serve the President’s interests, the Minority work on the Russia investigation continues. This week, we interviewed a key witness to the corrupt work of Cambridge Analytica, and received new documents from another important witness. We will continue our investigation using every means at our disposal; to do otherwise would ignore our responsibility to conduct meaningful oversight and insure that the Russians do not possess leverage over the President of the United States.”

    The Majority Report can be found here. The Minority Views can be found her






    Everything you are falsely accusing the J6 committee of was actually done and done in spades by the House Intelligence committee investigating Trump's collusion with Putin/Russia. And its all right there in black and white.






    As already proven above the J6 committee is not only following normal standard procedures for congressional investigations compared to treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans they are being incredibly transparent and holding public hearings so the American people can see for themselves what they are finding. And everything you are screaming about will be made public in the final report on their investigation.





    I most certainly will when the J6 committee releases their final report just like the House and Senate committees did with their sham whitewashing investigations of the Trump/Putin collusion. Which they kept from Robert Mueller and tried not to release the transcripts of witnesses. In fact I will put a marker on that and tag you when they do.

    Because not only all the witnesses but the transcripts of their testimony will be in the final report which is how all congressional hearings work.






    This is just laughable and proven so when we acknowledged that the John Durham investigation has taken more than three years and resulted in only three people being charged. An investigation into the first attempted coup in American history and Trump instigating and inciting an armed insurrection is clearly more complex then the Durham political sham and Merrick Garland has proven over and over again that no one knows what he and the DOJ are investigating or who.

    Garland and the DOJ are investigating an armed insurrection and the first attempted coup in American history and if they are going to indict a former president for what amounts to treason against the United States of America for the first time in American history they have to take their time and make sure their case against Trump is air tight.

    And in fact Garland and the DOJ might not and don't need to indict Trump for it because they have so many other crimes they can charge him with. Not the least of which is stealing some of the most highly classified material our government has and leave them laying around Mar a Lago.[/QUOTE]
     
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      I wanted to add an edit to that link but had serious formatting problems that made me miss the deadline. But I encourage everyone to actually click on that link and see for yourself what it actually is. Because its not what @shootersa is trying to claim. Its actually only CPAC quoting Jim Jordan lies Which have already been proven lies.
       
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    I just happened to catch this interview and it was not only really informative it was also funny as hell the way House Speaker Nancy Pelosi kept wiping Mrs Alan Greenspan's nose with her gottcha questions.

    But Pelosi wasn't the only one who didn't trust the Secret Service on J6. Her fears were well founded and held by VP Pence as well who actually said; 'I trust you, but you're not the one behind the wheel' when the Secret Service wanted to evacuate him from the Capitol and Pence refused to get in the car.

    Nancy Pelosi was worried Mike Pence couldn't trust the Secret Service

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    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke to MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday about some of the findings from the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    Some of the scenes that day were revealed in footage taken by her daughter. In one moment, Pelosi is seen on the phone with then Vice President Mike Pence asking if he was safe. She explained that she and other leaders were taken away from the Capitol to an undisclosed location. Pence was still in the secure parking structure.

    In I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trump's Catastrophic Final Year, by Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig quoted Pence telling his Secret Service detail that he wasn't getting in the car to leave.

    "[Pence] uttered what I think are the six most chilling words of this entire thing I've seen so far: 'I'm not getting in that car,'" Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) described when talking about the incident in April. "He knew exactly what this inside coup they had planned for was going to do."

    RELATED: Nancy Pelosi says Trump ‘wouldn’t have the courage’ to come to the Capitol on Jan. 6

    The theory is that the Secret Service's job is to get Pence away from the danger. But now there is a conversation about whether the vice president assumed the Secret Service was part of the coup.

    "The very idea that this mob would be sent by the president of the United States with the claim that they were going to hang Mike Pence should tell the public that, yes, our democracy is at stake," said Pelosi. "We were taken to an undisclosed location. He was still in the Capitol. I was very concerned, because the Capitol was being overridden, and the president -- the then president was not doing anything to stop the horror of it all."

    She recalled that Pence said if he left, people would see the VP fleeing out of fear.

    READ MORE: Trump earned a reputation as a bully as a kindergartner: new book

    "I wondered if he could trust the Secret Service to take him to a safe place," said Pelosi. "I don't know. But I do know that he was in danger in the Capitol and I wanted to be sure that he was protected. He was the vice president of the United States. We owe him -- I mean, it seems self-evident that the president should have been making those statements, but he wasn't."

    Watch video below or at this link.




    https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-secret-service-trust/

     
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    @Scotchlass, from here... https://forum.xnxx.com/post-comments/1505853/

    I'm very curious what harm you think I intend? I mean, seriously, this is an anonymous porn forum. What possible harm could I inflict by talking about politics? Calling you or anyone else names has really lost it's enamoring charm a long time ago, and most of the time anyone accuses others of name calling, it's really just one person describing the other person's actions, not the person themselves. Victimhood is a salivating goal for some.

    I think the issue is more that you want to paint your villains as pure evil to make your struggle against such things all that more heroic.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Jan. 6 Committee Can’t Find an Actual Lawyer to Accept Service of Trump’s Subpoena

    The Jan. 6 committee has yet to formally subpoena former President Donald Trump because they can’t find a lawyer who is authorized to accept service of the subpoena, sources told ABC News. The committee voted to subpoena Trump on Oct. 13 and is expected to issue the subpoena once committee investigators learn who is formally representing the former president. Although Trump has previously trashed the committee and its legitimacy, he recently has said he’s open to testifying as long as it’s broadcast live. No decision has been made yet on whether he’ll appear, but Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said, “I think that’s going to be a negotiation.” For now, the committee simply has to find a lawyer who can actually take the subpoena before those deliberations can even begin.

    Read it at ABC News


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/jan-6...to-accept-trumps-subpoena-to-testify?ref=home
     
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    'Aggressive' Jan. 6 Committee Trump subpoena 'reads like a prosecutor's closing argument': CNN legal analyst

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    CNN legal analyst Elie Honig on Monday said he was struck by just how aggressive the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th Capitol riots was in its subpoena of former President Donald Trump.

    In breaking down the subpoena, Honig said that the committee seems to directly implicate Trump in criminal activity.

    "This is the most aggressive subpoena I've ever seen," he said. "This one reads more like a prosecutor's closing argument. The committee writes to Donald Trump and all of us, quote, 'You personally orchestrated and oversaw a multipart effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and to obstruct the peaceful transition of power. You knew this activity was illegal and unconstitutional. You knew it was illegal.'"

    Honig then went through all the things Trump is required to do in the subpoena, from producing documents to making privilege claims to testifying behind closed doors.

    RELATED: Trump claims that 'the FBI paid people to "get Trump'" in paranoid late-night Truth Social rant

    However, he predicted that Trump would be able to get away with running out the clock on complying with this subpoena, as Republicans are strongly favored to retake the House of Representatives in the upcoming midterm elections.

    "The key date to watch is January 3rd, 2023, that's when a new Congress takes over," he said. "If it's Republican, the committee is done. Even if not, this committee has shown they understand they have to be done by then."

    Watch the video below or at this link.



    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-january-6-committee-2658494612/
     
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    So much for this countries political leaders even giving lip service to the presumption of innocence.

    Midterms cannot get here soon enough.
     
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    Trump advisors afraid he'd face perjury charges from live J6 committee testimony: report

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    Advisors to former President Donald Trump are hoping they talked him out of the idea of complying with a subpoena from the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol because they fear his testimony would result in perjury charges.

    After the select committee voted unanimously to approve the subpoena, Trump began floating the possibility of complying if the interview was broadcast live.

    One of Trump's advisors told Rolling Stone the message aides sent to the former president was, "absolutely f*cking not."

    The magazine reported, "several of Trump’s attorneys and political counselors have directly told the ex-president this month that any testimony under oath before that panel would be an awful idea for him, according to this source and two other people with knowledge of the matter. The advisers cautioned Trump that committee members would mine his testimony for potential perjury charges, particularly given Trump’s penchant for lying."

    One advisor told Rolling Stone, “It is my hope that we talked him out of it. The [former] president seemed receptive to our arguments against [it], but with Donald Trump, it can be hard to tell [sometimes] what has actually sunk in or stuck.”

    READ: Trump scolded Blake Masters for not pushing the 'Big Lie' in Senate debate

    Former Trump White House attorney Ty Cobb told the magazine that no lawyer in their right mind would advise Trump to testify.

    “It is clear that testifying would be a bad idea, as highlighted by the fact that his initial reaction to the subpoena included a multi-page screed where he repeated the completely discredited theories of the Big Lie,” Cobb said. “I would like to believe his lawyers did not see that before it went out, but whether they did or didn’t, each scenario is scary.”


    Read the full report

    NOW WATCH: 'Vigilante voter intimidation': Arizona's voters being stalked at mail-in ballot drop boxes

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-advisors-hope-they-talked-trump-out-of-televised-j6-testimony-report/
     
    1. anon_de_plume
      Wow, Seems the Republicans have known all along that Trump is a liar...
       
      anon_de_plume, Oct 28, 2022
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    Conspiracy much?
    Or just trolling?
     
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    Liz Cheney discusses how she believes Jan 6 committee's Trump subpoena will play out
    Ronn Blitzer
    Sun, October 23, 2022 at 11:16 AM·2 min read




    Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., discussed the subpoena that the House January 6 committee issued to former President Donald Trump, saying that she believes he will comply with it but that the committee is prepared in case he does not.

    In an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, host Chuck Todd asked what will happen if Trump fails to turn over requested documents by the November 4 deadline. Cheney was confident that the committee will not have to deal with such a scenario.

    "We are anticipating that the former president will understand his legal obligation and will comply with the subpoena," Cheney said.

    The subpoena deals with Trump's supposed role in what the committee called in an accompanying letter a "multi-part effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and to obstruct the peaceful transition of power." In addition to physical records, the committee is calling for Trump to appear on November 14 for a deposition under oath so that he can face questions about the events that led to the riot at the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021.

    "We've made clear in the subpoena a number of things, including that if he intends to take the Fifth, that he ought to alert us of that ahead of time," Cheney noted.



    Todd asked Cheney about an offer that Trump's team was rumored to have made to have the former president to be questioned on live television. Despite the committee's penchant for special televised presentations, the subpoena was not for an open hearing and Cheney indicated that the committee is not interested in having one in which they are not in total control.

    MARK MEADOWS COMPLYING WITH DOJ SUBPOENA, TURNING OVER DOCUMENTS PREVIOUSLY SHARED WITH HOUSE JAN. 6 COMMITTEE


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    Former U.S. President Donald Trump speaks at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Aug. 06, 2022, in Dallas, Texas.
    "We are not going to allow the former president -- he's not going to turn this into a circus," she said. "This isn't going to be, you know, his first debate against Joe Biden and the circus and the food fight that became. This is a far too serious set of issues, and we've made clear exactly what his obligations are, and we are proceeding with that set out."

    Cheney said that questioning Trump "may take multiple days" and that the committee will handle it "with a level of rigor and discipline and seriousness that it deserves."



    In the event that Trump does not comply with the subpoena, Cheney said the committee has "many, many alternatives that we will consider," although she did not specify what options they might consider.

    Former Trump aides Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro were both charged with contempt for failing to comply with subpoenas from the committee. Bannon was convicted and on Friday received a sentence of four months prison and a $6,500 fine. Navarro has yet to face trial.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/liz-cheney-discusses-she-believes-171657814.html
     
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    And the race is on.
    Will Trump have to answer the subpoena first, or will mid terms happen?
     
    1. stumbler
      So what effect will the mid terms have on Merrick Garland and the DOJ have @shootersa?

      Another question you will not answer.
       
      stumbler, Oct 29, 2022