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  1. stumbler

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    There were multiple law enforcement agencies involved in the raid and you are saying none of them had their body cams running. Why is that?


    but at least show us your source that says the bullet came from the person killed. I would like to at least see that.

    And since you claim you were once a cop do you know that a "throw down is"? Surely you can answer that can't you from just your own experience. Because if you can't you were never a cop.

    Also you lie if you say I have ever supported ANTIFA let alone terrorists. I have denounced both many times on this forum. Do you want me to prove that again?
     
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    Every different city and every different situation will depend what reaction they have to take.
    If I was in Chicago and a very angry mob had guns, knives and clubs I would react differently than I would in small city US/A
    Yes, we do have officers that go much to far in retaliation. And we have people that do the same.
    Body cams do help resolve some issues of what was happening, but they do not capture the danger or hate the people feel.
    Education and reason can help, the problem is you can teach kindness and you can teach hate.
    I was not there so how can I be a true judge?
     
    1. shootersa
      Shooter will tell you a vast majority of cops prefer body cams.

      Shooter was a cop.
      retaliation wasn't really the issue for Shooter or for his fellow cops.
      We didn't have time for that bullshit.

      In Shooter's view, most departments, especially smaller ones, need more training and retraining for cops on how to deescalate a situation, but of greater import, how to restrain and control a prisoner.
      Last week he saw a bunch of body cam videos, including Memphis, and what he saw was a bunch of cops who didn't know how to properly restrain or control a resisting prisoner.
       
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    2. Blank2u
      Thank you, Thank you.
      Sharing the situation helps, but sometimes reaction happens way too fast the officer has to react.
      It is hard to find the unknown.
      Reaction is an reaction to an unknown.
       
      Blank2u, Jan 31, 2023
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    Polarizing and politicizing this tragedy works for the agenda of keeping the people divided. While the attention is focused on the brutality of this senseless incident, don't pay no mind to who this group of cops are. They were, because, one, they no longer work as police officers, two the unit has been disbanded, scorpion unit, a federally funded unit.
    I suspect this type of unit is being used though out the country. I say this because it is happening here in Texas, call taskforce lonestar, a special task force of 20 local agencies from inside and outside this county. They target different areas and surrounding counties on a daily basis. It is federally funded. According to the local paper, The Wilson County Times, it is a criminal interdiction operation. They flood the area with multiple units, pulling people over, for the smallest traffic violations, allowing them to do criminal investigative stops.
    The fact traffic infactions are statue violations, not criminal violations, and under the U.S. Constitution is a violation of 4 amendment rights. But this is what the federal government is doing, throwing big grant money to locol law enforcement to get you use to your rights meaning nothing in the eyes of law enforcement.
    Would this tragedy in Memphis, have happened if there was no scorpion unit? It doesn't matter now. It does show the type of abuses it can bring. There are all kinds of possibilities for abuse. No need to go into hypothetical scenarios, but agencies working outside their jurisdiction, disregarding the rights of citizens, funded by the government, is nothing short of intimidation. At the vary least, it is unfair revenue generating, and law enforcement disregarding the laws they are suppose to operate under.
    Does this sound familiar, halt, show me your papers.....
     
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  4. Distant Lover

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    US police officers obviously cannot kill black men with impunity, even when the black men have committed a crime and are resisting arrest.

    The OP should think of better questions to ask.
     
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    1. crhurricane
      100% agree, never tell a cop what he can't do. In court rights and wrongs get straightened out.
       
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    2. shootersa
      Exactly correct.
      It does no good to tell a cop about your "rights" or that the cop can't do that.
      Chances are a) he knows your rights better than you do b) He's gonna do what he has to to do his job and go home safe that day. Fuck everything else, that's what the courts are for.
       
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    GBI says other bodycam in Cop City protester Tortuguita death | 11alive.com
    Georgia State Patrol troopers don't use body cam. Other agencies there at the time who do use body cam were not at the scene of the shooting. The only body cam available for that day is from after the shooting occured.

    Teran bought that pistol 2 years ago. They have the background screening form he filled out and signed and the sales receipt.
    It was found near his body after the shooting.
    The bullet taken from the trooper matches Teran's gun.
    And all of this you learned when you googled for it.
    Course, learning that Shooter was correct doesn't let you attack Shooter or cast doubt on the trooper who was shot, does it?
    Better in this case to play innocent and ignorant, eh?​

    Oh yes, Shooter knows what a "throw down" is. The theory is that a cop will carry an unregistered gun that he picked up somewhere and then he can shoot someone and drop his "throw down" gun on the body and claim he was defending himself.
    And Shooter does not know of a single instance, either from personal experience or from cases he knows of, where a cop would dare even try to use a "throw down" gun.
    For damn sure, a throw down gun wouldn't be registered to the assailant two years before the shooting, right?
    So, Fuck you for your cheap attempt at attacking Shooter.
    Well, for starters, your "proof" is generally just a page full of posts you dig up from the darkest recesses' of the archives, and don't often prove very much. Sometimes, we're left scratching our heads wondering just exactly what it is you think you're proving.
    No matter.
    You're defending an Antifa terrorist right here in this thread. A simple Google search answers all the questions you've posed here, and we know you are capable of doing a Google search. Even the leftist rag the Guardian reported the ownership of the gun used to try and kill the Georgia trooper and the forensics match.
    ‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting Georgia’s ‘Cop City’ | Georgia | The Guardian

    You have no excuse for trying to cast doubt on what happened with the trooper being shot, except that you are defending an Antifa terrorist.​
     
  7. mstrman

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    Sixth Memphis police officer involved in Tyre Nichols investigation relieved of duty
    Hemphill allegedly used his taser on Trye Nichols prior to the beating
     
  8. stumbler

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    Well my how convenient. Multiple law enforcement agencies but none of them had bodycams on until AFTER the shooting.


    No GSP bodycams in deadly 'Cop City' shooting, but other agencies may have recorded aftermath
    Out of the 11 shootings involving GSP, nine happened out of frame. Only 2 were captured on camera at a distance, and they don’t tell the full story.



    ATLANTA — After a deadly shootout between a protester and Georgia State Patrol troopers, many are calling for the release of bodycam footage.

    However, Georgia state troopers are not required to use bodycam footage when working. The only exceptions in the state are those outside of the state Capitol and Jekyll Island.


    The force relies on dash cameras to record officers' actions on scene. The problem is, dash cam footage may not shed any light.


    The shooting happened in a wooded area, the future site of the Atlanta Police training center, or as critics call it, "Cop City." Troopers said several law enforcement agencies worked to clear out protesters opposed to the facility when they encountered Manuel Esteban Paez Teran.

    Troopers said Paez shot at law enforcement who returned gunfire, killing the 26-year-old. One trooper currently remains in intensive care. Since the shooting took place in a wooded area, dash cam footage wouldn't have been able to capture it.

    This isn't the first time a shooting involving Georgia state troopers happened off camera. Last year, investigators with 11Alive requested recordings from deadly shootings involving GSP that spanned back to 2017.

    RELATED: FRAMED: Most trooper shootings occur off camera

    Out of the 11 shootings involving GSP, nine happened out of frame. Only two were captured on camera at a distance, and they don’t tell the full story.

    Lawmakers proposed a bill in 2016 that would require all law enforcement agencies to wear body cameras, but it got shot down by the Georgia House.

    11Alive is still working to confirm if any other agencies have footage of the deadly shooting.

    So if GSP doesn't have body cam footage, who does?

    The Georgia Bureau of Investigation confirmed that the operation involved several law enforcement agencies including:


    • GBI
    • The Atlanta Police Department
    • Georgia State Patrol
    • Department of Natural Resources
    • DeKalb County Police Department

    Although DeKalb County Police and the APD are required to wear body cameras, no other agencies captured the shooting. However, APD officers who were involved in the operation generally, away from the shooting, were wearing body cameras and may have footage related to the incident.






    APD said: "There were no APD officers with the Georgia State Patrol at the time of the shooting. Body Worn Camera Footage from our officers is part of an on-going investigation and is not being released, at this time."
    https://www.11alive.com/article/new...-city/85-f97f1173-2b76-432d-ab89-cf86203b0642





    Where is your source for this because I did just to a google search for it and found nothing which makes me think you are just making it up.




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    cops planting evidence
    https://www.themarshallproject.org/records/4692-cops-planting-evidence

    And you know better than anyone this is not true and just a phony game playing dodge on yur part. I have been very consistent in all my time on this forum I oppose ANTIFA specifically and all violence and especially political violence generally. But you continue to make the false accusation that I support ANTIFA and terrorists. That is a deliberate lie on your part and you know its a lie.


    I had to edit this post to avoid getting suspended for aggressive bashing.



    Here is a post of many but not all the times I have condemned ANTIFA in particular and violence in general. And its also a great example of @shootersa's long history of falsely accusing me of supporting ANTIFA.


    https://forum.xnxx.com/threads/someone-try-to-defend-this-i-dare-you.598199/page-











    And again a totally false statement. If Manuel Esteban Paez Teran did shoot at police they had every right to kill him. But you keep harping on these protests as if it canceled out police killing unarmed Black people and just police corruption and brutality in general. And I am simply pointing out there are many questions about these shooting and if the police want to calm the protests they should answer the questions and release everything they have just like the Memphis police did. Which the Georgia police are refusing to do for some reason.

    Also if you do a search or the Atlanta protests turning violent the latest thing you find is January 21st. But you keep harping on them like Atalanta is being burnt to the ground by ANTIFA.

    And of course people always have to click on the links you provide because the most always don't say what you are trying to claim. Such as the Guardian link. Here;s the only thing it says about the gun.

    This footnote was added on 24 January 2023. Between final editing and publication of this article, the GBI released information including a photograph of a handgun that the agency said was in Manuel Teran’s possession. The GBI also said forensic analysis had confirmed that the projectile recovered from the trooper’s wound matched this handgun.

    ‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting Georgia’s ‘Cop City’ | Georgia | The Guardian



    And let's also look at this. If its Black people protesting police killing unarmed Black people they are equated with ANTIFA and terrorists. Which only shows their racism because you never hear them complaing about things like this.

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    Videos across social media showed Eagles fans stopping traffic, climbing poles and generally causing trouble in the wake of their team’s win.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/rowdy-eagles-fans-wreak-havoc-in-downtown-philly-after-teams-big-win
     
    1. shootersa
      Shooter stands in awe.
      Stumbler twirls and rants that Shooter didn't provide a source to support his forensics claims in the Georgia shooting, then posts the very source shooter said he used in the beginning.

      He really does believe we're that stupid.
       
      shootersa, Jan 31, 2023
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    Really???? Well we know the first five officer who are black were fired immediately and now charged. But why are we only hearing about the sixth officer now?



    Sixth Memphis officer relieved of duty in connection to Tyre Nichols death
    by Cheyanne M. Daniels - 01/30/23 12:07 PM ET

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    A sixth officer has been relieved of duty in connection to the beating of Tyre Nichols, a 29-year-old Black man who died after being beaten by five police officers after a traffic stop on Jan. 7 in Memphis, Tenn.

    Preston Hemphill, who was hired in 2018, “was relieved of duty at the beginning of the investigation involving Tyre Nichols’ death, with the other officers,” a spokesperson for the Memphis Police Department told The Hill in an emailed statement. “Once additional information is available, we will update our social media platforms.”


    The Associated Press reported Monday that disciplinary action taken against Hemphill, who is white, was not immediately released to the public because he was not fired. The department usually releases information about officers who are relieved of duty once an investigation concludes.

    Hemphill’s attorney, Lee Gerald, confirmed that Hemphill was among the officers at the initial stop. The first video released by authorities late Friday is from Hemphill’s bodycam footage.

    “As per departmental regulations Officer Hemphill activated his bodycam,” Gerald said in a statement. “He was never present at the second scene. He is cooperating with officials in this investigation.”

    In a statement Monday, Attorneys Ben Crump and Antonio Romanucci, who are representing Nichols’s family, said the news that Hemphill was not yet fired or charged was “extremely disappointing.”

    “Why is his identity and the role he played in Tyre’s death just now coming to light? We have asked from the beginning that the Memphis Police Department be transparent with the family and the community – this news seems to indicate that they haven’t risen to the occasion,” the statement said. “It certainly begs the question why the white officer involved in this brutal attack was shielded and protected from the public eye, and to date, from sufficient discipline and accountability. The Memphis Police Department owes us all answers.”

    Five other officers — Tadarrius Bean, Demetrius Haley, Emmitt Martin III, Desmond Mills Jr. and Justin Smith — were fired on Jan. 20 and have since been charged with second-degree murder, two counts of official misconduct, two counts of aggravated kidnapping, one count of official oppression and one count of aggravated assault. All five of those officers are Black.


    The Memphis Police Department initially said Nichols was pulled over for reckless driving, but Memphis Police Chief Cerelyn Davis has since said there has been no evidence to corroborate this claim.

    Graphic video footage released on Friday showed the initial stop officers conducted as Nichols was driving and the beating that ensued shortly thereafter.

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    The footage showed an unidentified officer, who is white, who was also involved in the altercation. When Nichols escaped from the officer, the officer can be heard saying “I hope they stomp his ass.”


    A civil rights investigation into the death of Nichols is now underway.

    –Updated at 2:29 p.m.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...-of-duty-in-connection-to-tyre-nichols-death/
     
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    Here's the list of unarmed Black peopled killed in 2022 and so far in 2023.



    2022
    Date Name Age City Description
    January 8 Jason Walker 37 Fayetteville, North Carolina An off-duty sheriff's deputy shot and killed Walker after he allegedly jumped on the hood of the deputy's vehicle. A witness says Walker was shot while he was on the ground.[471]

    January 30 Dyonta Quarles Jr. 20 Crofton, Maryland Police responded to a report of a domestic dispute. They encountered Quarles, who charged at an officer, and a struggle occurred, with a stun gun failing to work. When the officers had Quarles restrained, he bit Officer J. Ricci's finger, and Ricci shot him.[472]

    February 6 Robert "Junior" Langley 46 Georgetown County, South Carolina Officer Cassandra Dollard of the Hemingway Police Department in Williamsburg County attempted to pull over Langley for disregarding a stop sign. After a chase, Langley crashed his car into a ditch in Georgetown County. As Langley attempted to exit his vehicle, Dollard shot him once in the chest. Dollard was charged with voluntary manslaughter.[473]

    February 19 Donnell Rochester 18 Baltimore, Maryland Officers attempted to perform a traffic stop for failure to appear in court on a carjacking charge. Police shot Rochester after his vehicle moved forwards. On a search and seizure warrant officers stated that Rochester had struck an officer, but bodycam footage showed the officer say the car didn't hit him.[4
    74]

    February 22 Tracy Gaeta 54 Stockton, California An officer pursued Gaeta after she was suspected of hitting a police vehicle in her car. After a pursuit Gaeta backed up at a dead-end, and the officer fired 18 times. After firing several more shots, the vehicle pulled forward and reversed away from the officer. The officer then fired again over a dozen times.[47
    5]

    April 4 Patrick Lyoya 26 Grand Rapids, Michigan Officer Christopher Schurr attempted to arrest Lyoya following a traffic stop. The two struggled over Schurr's taser and Schurr, restraining the prone positioned Lyoya, shot him in the back of the head. Schurr was charged with second-degree murder.[476]

    April 25 Herman Whitfield 39 Indianapolis, Indiana Police responding to a mental health call used a stun gun on Whitfield and restrained him despite him saying he couldn't breathe. The coroner's officer ruled Whitfield's death a homicide and said he died from "cardiopulmonary arrest in the setting of law enforcement subdual, prone restraint and conducted electrical weapon use".[477]

    April 27 Jalen Randle 29 Houston, Texas An officer shot Randle after a chase after he exited his vehicle. The officer who shot him started to give a command but fired before finishing his sentence, hitting Randle in the back of the neck. Randle was holding a shoe and a bag.[478]

    June 26 Jayland Walker 25 Akron, Ohio Walker, 25, was shot following an attempted traffic stop and foot chase. Officers fired more than 90 bullets at Walker, who sustained 60 wounds. Footage of the shooting was released one week later, on July 3, 2022.[479]

    July 7 Brett Rosenau 15 Albuquerque, New Mexico During a standoff with a man wanted for a parole violation, the man and Rosenau fled into a home. Police fired a pepper-spray canister, which set a mattress on fire and sparked a housefire. The other man left the house and was arrested, while Rosenau stayed inside and died of smoke inhalation. His death was ruled a homicide.[480]

    July 8 Roderick Brooks 47 Houston, Texas Deputy Garrett Hardin responded to a shoplifting report at a Dollar General and encountered Brooks. After Hardin tased and restrained Brooks a struggle occurred, and Hardin shot Brooks in the back of the head. Bodycam footage shows Brooks grab the taser, but he had never pointed the taser at Hardin and let go of it by the time Hardin shot him.[481]

    July 21 Raymond Chaluisant 18 New York City, New York An off-duty corrections officer shot at a car where Chaluisant, who had a gel blaster, was a passenger. It is unclear if the gel blaster was fired, but the Correction Officers' Benevolent Association claimed the gel blaster had hit the officer in the back. The corrections officer failed to report the shooting and was arrested the next day;[482] according to his lawyer, the corrections officer hadn't realized he had hit anyone as after he'd fired the shot, the car had driven away. The corrections officer was indicted in August with a further hearing scheduled for November.[483]

    July 28 Kyle Dail 30 Dallas, Texas Police attempted to arrest Dail after a reported drug deal. According to police Dail pulled out a firearm and threw it down an aisle, shortly after which an officer shot him.[484]
    August 30 Donovan Lewis 20 Columbus, Ohio Police served a warrant at Lewis's apartment for improperly handling a firearm, assault, and domestic violence. When police entered Lewis's bedroom an officer shot him after he sat up in bed with an object in his hand. No weapon was found on Lewis, but a vape pen was found nearby.[485]

    September 14 Genesis Hicks 26 Frisco, Texas Police approached Hicks after he was accused of using false identification to buy a car from a dealership. When Hicks ran, police tased him, causing him to hit his head on the ground. Hicks fell into a coma and died two weeks later on September 29.[486]

    October 25 James Wilborn 35 Atlanta, Georgia Wilborn and a female friend were in a car when Wilborn's ex-girlfriend recognized him and climbed onto the hood of his vehicle. Wilborn attempted to drive off, causing his ex-girlfriend to fall, which was witnessed by an off-duty officer. The officer approached Wilborn, who exited his vehicle, and the two fought before the officer shot Wilborn once.[487][488]

    November 10 Ki'Azia Miller 27 Detroit, Michigan Police were called by Miller's mother, who reported her daughter was experiencing a mental health crisis and had been diagnosed with schizophrenia, stating Miller had hit her child. Police found Miller dressed in her underwear, with one officer seemingly hiding behind a tree, as filmed by Miller. Two officers then entered the home and a struggle occurred, ending with an officer shooting Miller, stating she was reaching for his gun. Detroit Police Chief James White recommended the three total officers involved be suspended without pay, although only the two officers who entered the home were.[489]

    November 21 Eric Holmes 19 Morrow, Georgia An officer investigating a stolen vehicle found it in a parking lot. Holmes approached the officer and spoke to him but did not mention any connection to the vehicle. Shortly after, he entered the vehicle and began to drive away, with the officer firing several shots, hitting Holmes in the back, and Holmes crashing nearby. The officer was allowed to resign before he would be terminated.[490]
    2023
    Date Name Age City Description

    January 3 Keenan Anderson 31 Los Angeles, California Keenan Anderson, cousin of Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors, died after he was tased by Los Angeles Police after a car crash.[491]

    January 7 Tyre Nichols 29 Memphis, Tennessee Nichols was pulled over for suspected reckless driving.[492] Police beat, pepper sprayed, and tased Nichols, who was taken to the hospital, dying three days later on January 10. A preliminary autopsy found he suffered "extensive bleeding caused by a severe beating." The five officers involved in the incident were fired, as well as two EMTS. The five officers were later charged with murder.[493]
    References

    That's 19 unarmed Black people killed by police.

    And in 2022 there were 64 police shot and killed in 2022/


    A 'disturbing trend': More police are dying from gun violence today than a decade ago
    [​IMG] Grace Hauck
    USA TODAY








    Sixty-four officers were shot and killed in the line of duty in 2022, according to a preliminary annual report released Wednesday from the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

    That's far below the number of firearms-related officer deaths 50 years ago. But the figure – the same as in 2021 – represents an increase over the average number of officer deaths in more recent history, according to the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit, which warned of a "disturbing trend."


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/01/11/police-officer-deaths-2022-report/11017969002/



    So yes there were more police officers killed. But that is because they work in a dangerous profession. Not actually as dangerous as many other professions but still dangerous.. But police are not supposed to kill unarmed people and kill unarmed Black people far more often than any other.


    And while it is most certainly a tragedy anytime a police officer dies in the line of duty that also has to be kept in perspective.




    Last Year Was Deadliest Year on Record for Police Violence in the US
    At least 1,176 people were killed by law enforcement.

    By
    Ella Ceron

    January 6, 2023 at 3:00 PM MST

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...2-most-ever-in-the-us?leadSource=uverify wall
     
  11. crhurricane

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    Let's be sure the media is as unbiased as stumbly, in a perfect world, where all questionable situations are decided by stumby and his paste and cut justice...
     
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    1. shootersa
      Stumbler baffles with bullshit, or tries to.
      His methods are well known, and are well represented in this thread.

      He would rather defend a terroristt who shot a Georgia cop than acknowldge the truth as it was presented to him.
       
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    What were those 1,176 people doing wrong? I am sure the police were not killing them for the fun of it. At the very least they were resisting arrest, like Saint George of Floyd was. They should not have been doing that.
     
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    Don't waste your time.
    Stumbler does not care about the truth or justice.
    He especially does not care about anything you have to say, unless it supports his lies and delusions.

    You are defending police. That is enough to trigger stumbler by itself.
     
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    Let's do some math, common core will not work, but feel free to use it.

    328,000,000 citizens in US

    1,176 killed by law enforcement

    328,000,000 x 0.000003658% = 1174.24


    There are more than 800,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States

    328,000,000 x 0.02439% = 799,992

    There are 17,985 police agencies in the United States which include municipal police departments, county sheriff's offices, state troopers, and federal law enforcement agencies.

    Mortality All homicides Number of deaths: 24,576 Deaths per 100,000 population
    (2020 CDC)

    30 percent jump in homicide in 2020 was the biggest one-year increase in over a century, with the lone bigger increase coming way back in 1905

    Prior to 2020, the biggest increase in the national homicide rate came in 2001, the year of the September 11 attacks, when the rate increased 20 percent.
    So while the increase in 2020 was probably the largest in history the actual rate itself – the number of homicides per 100,000 – is lower than at other points in history more recently.
    The homicide rate that we’re seeing for 2020 is about 7.8 per 100,000 and it’s a big increase from 6 per 100,000 in 2019 but if you go back to the early 80s and actually in the 70s, you had rates of higher than 10 per 100,000, so at those times you had a higher homicide rate. Not the big increases or big decreases at that time but the overall level was much higher.


    100,000 x .0078% = 7.8

    328,000,000 x .0078% = 25,584


    So the .0078% of the population killed by homicide, is nowhere near the concern the media wants you to have for the 0.000003658% of the population killed by law enforcement.
    I don't think anyone will say these numbers are acceptable, there is an undisputable violence problem in this country. I did not compare these numbers to any other country, feel free to, if you like. The point here is simple, the media is trying to pull the wool over your eyes, putting numbers out, for shock value and completely out of context. To most this is no surprise, others prefer to stand by a belief, that a narrative, pushing an agenda, is righteous, and the numbers tell the truth.
    The truth is even simpler, if you care to use your intelligence. You can not expect people to follow a story, with only the parts you want to tell. Ignoring all factual comparisons that all the facts tell. Some will, you pick the reason.
    The freedoms we all enjoy allow you, your beliefs. So to some these numbers are arguable, and they are, but don't blame me for putting the numbers and what truth they tell, out there. Use your intelligence and convince yourself. Just know there are those, counting on you, not to, face value is all you need.
     
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  15. Distant Lover

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    I have been stopped and frisked by the police on many occasions. The police examined the contents of packages I was carrying. When this happens I move slowly, keep my hands in sight, and speak respectfully.

    Once two police officers threw me into an ally and beat me up by mistake. :arghh:

    I still like and respect the police. :angelic:
     
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    1. crhurricane
      It's not a prefect world, never will be. Without a doubt there is good and bad, perspective is always needed, just in short supply for many.
       
      crhurricane, Jan 31, 2023
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    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    I want police officers who got into lots of fights in high school, because they enjoy violence. Then they joined the Army or the Marine Corps and fought in Afghanistan or Iraq because they like to kill people.

    For the police I want rough, violent men who share my hatred for criminals.
     
    1. crhurricane
      "Men can only be highly civilized while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard them" -
       
      crhurricane, Jan 31, 2023
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    2. Distant Lover
      As I expected, George Orwell said this. ^
       
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    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    That's because you are sitting in your bedroom thinking, not out doing.
    Cops pretty much universally do not like violence.
    Too much paperwork.
    That isn't to say they won't step into it when the situation calls for it.
    One of the cops Shooter worked with would say a little prayer every night just before he went out;
    "Keep us all safe, keep those we deal with safe, and let us all go home in the morning.
    Help us catch the evil doers, help us save the victims, help us do our jobs with honor and pride.
    And Dear God, let Ruby sleep through the night."​

    Ruby was the town's lonely widow. When she couldn't sleep she'd call 911 and report something so someone had to go over there, and they'd end up talking half the night with her. It shouldn't have been a call we all avoided, but she smelled like an old dog that needed a bath, and her house was a toxic waste dump. She was tolerated because we all knew she was just very lonely and wanted to talk to someone. But damn, you had to take your uniforms to the cleaners that morning, or they'd stink up the whole closet.
     
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    CS natureboy Porn Star

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    The only people that have problems with the police are the people that police have problems with.....
     
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    Americans’ confidence in police hits new low in wake of Tyre Nichols beating: poll
    by Julia Shapero - 02/03/23 9:39 AM ET

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    Members of the Memphis Police Department work a crime scene in Memphis, Tenn., Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2023. Police video of the deadly beating of Tyre Nichols by officers in Memphis, Tenn. is hard to watch. The images are a glaring reminder of repeated failures of efforts to prevent such flashpoints of police brutality. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
    Americans’ confidence in the police has hit a new low in the wake of the fatal beating of Tyre Nichols by police in Memphis, Tenn., according to an ABC News-Washington Post poll released on Friday.


    Just 41 percent of respondents in the poll said that they are confident that U.S. police treat white and Black people equally, down from 47 percent in July 2020 and 52 percent in December 2014.




    Confidence in police training has also dropped to new lows, falling 15 points since 2014. Only 39 percent in Friday’s poll said they are confident police are adequately trained to avoid the use of excessive force.

    However, these trends break down along racial and ethnic lines. White people have consistently had higher confidence in police over the last decade, although this confidence has steadily decreased.

    The majority of white people in 2014 and 2020 — 66 percent and 53 percent respectively — remained confident that police treated white and Black individuals equally. This number dropped below 50 percent for the first time in the most recent version of the ABC-Post poll, coming in at 48 percent.

    Views on whether police are sufficiently trained to avoid excessive use of force showed a similar trend among white people, falling from 62 percent in 2014 to 50 percent in 2020 and 46 percent this year.

    Among Black people in the poll, confidence in the police has remained at a consistently low level since 2014 and did not necessarily follow the same steady decline as the overall group.

    Just 21 percent of Black people in 2014 were confident that police treated white and Black people equally. This number dropped to its lowest point in 2020, when only 10 percent expressed confidence on the issue. In 2023, 12 percent said they were confident in equal treatment.


    On the issue of excessive force, confidence among Black respondents that police are adequately trained to avoid the use of such force has steadily dropped 9 points since 2014, landing at 20 percent in the most recent poll.


    The drop in confidence comes amid public outcry over the death of Tyre Nichols following an encounter with Memphis police last month. Nichols, a 29-year-old Black man, was pepper-sprayed, tased and beaten by several police officers during a traffic stop on Jan. 7, and eventually died from his injuries.

    The two other times that the ABC-Post poll asked both questions about Americans’ confidence in the police were notably during the protests that followed the murder of George Floyd in the summer of 2020 and following the expansion of Black Lives Matter into a nationally recognized movement in 2014 after the police killings of Michael Brown and Eric Garner.


    The ABC-Post poll was conducted from Jan. 27 to Feb. 1 with 1,003 adults and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.



    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...new-low-in-wake-of-tyre-nichols-beating-poll/
     
    1. CS natureboy
      Well the police have better numbers than biden.....:thumbsup:
       
      CS natureboy, Feb 3, 2023
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  20. shootersa

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    And better than Congress.
     
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