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  1. shootersa

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    Ah! Shooter gets it. Its a game. And yes, you are a liar.

     
  2. stumbler

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    How much damage has the Trump-Putin collusion inflicted on America?

    Thom Hartmann
    June 18, 2023, 5:33 AM ET


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    Brad Shepherd, Dave Faulkner ( in a Donald Trump mask ) and Nik Rieth ( in a Vladimir Putin mask) are seen during filming of the Hoodoo Gurus new 'Hung out to dry' music video on July 08, 2020 in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Don Arnold/WireImage)


    If Trump shared American secrets with Putin, our intelligence agencies are not going to call a press conference to let us all know. Similarly, short of a trial for treason, it’s extremely unlikely such an allegation — even if true — will show up in a court of law.
    Lawyers, judges, and juries just don’t have the security clearances necessary, so the documents brought to court are almost certainly not among the very most sensitive: they’re just enough to get a conviction.

    As former FBI general counsel Andrew Weissman told MSNBC this week:

    “[There] is a subset of the secret or top secret documents that I think that's something we will not see more of because that is probably the intelligence community saying there are things so sensitive we do not want you to use that in court. The material in the indictment is shocking. You can imagine what was left out.”

    And Attorney General Merrick Garland himself said:

    “We do not do our investigations in public. This is the most wide-ranging investigation and the most important investigation that the Justice Department has ever entered into.”

    That would be more important than Russian spies Robert Hanssen (life without parole), Aldrich Ames (life without parole), or Ethel and Julius Rosenberg (death penalty)?

    The current case in Florida is limited to Trump stealing sensitive documents and sharing them on two publicly known occasions (and didn’t even reference other known acts like Kid Rock’s allegation that Trump showed him Top Secret maps in the White House: this was apparently a regular thing for Trump).

    That said, you can bet your bottom dollar that the FBI and other agencies are working as hard as they can to contain the damage done by Trump’s leaving documents that could cause “grave damage” to America in public places where spies could simply waltz in and take cell-phone pictures of them by attending a wedding or paying $200,000 for essentially unlimited access Club membership.

    But what if it goes beyond that? What if Putin has owned him for years?

    From Russian oligarchs laundering money through his operations — real estate is the most common device used worldwide for money laundering — to keeping him alive in his most difficult times, like those multiple bankruptcies in the 1990s when he almost lost everything?

    Or perhaps blackmailing him?

    What if Putin got him the presidency, and he knows if America found out for sure it would destroy him?

    Which begs the question: exactly how much damage might Trump have already done to our nation, and what does he have planned if he wins a second term?

    In 2019 The Washington Post revealed that, throughout his presidency, Donald Trump was having secret phone conversations with Russia’s President Putin (over 20 have been identified so far, including one just days before the 2020 election).

    The Moscow Project from the American Progress Action Fund documents more than 270 known contacts between Russia-linked operatives and members of the Trump campaign and transition team, as well as at least 38 known meetings just leading up to the 2016 election.

    The manager of his 2016 campaign, Paul Manafort — who was previously paid tens of millions by Vladimir Putin’s people to install a pro-Putin puppet as Ukraine’s president in 2010 — has admitted that he was regularly feeding secret inside-campaign strategy and polling information to Russian intelligence via the oligarch who typically paid him on their behalf.

    Throughout the campaign, he let them know where Trump needed help, and when.

    Trump pardoned Manafort, which got him out of prison. He’s still fabulously rich from his work for Russia.

    As The New York Times noted in 2020:

    nvestigators found enough there to declare that Mr. Manafort created ‘a grave counterintelligence threat’ by sharing inside information about the presidential race with Mr. Kilimnik and the Russian and [pro-Russian] Ukrainian oligarchs whom he served.”

    There is no known parallel to this behavior by any president in American history — one could argue it easily exceeds Benedict Arnold’s audacity — and bringing documents to Mar-a-Lago is just the tip of the iceberg.

    The Washington Post reported last August that Trump had a habit of carrying top-secret information that could severely damage our national security, leaving it in hotel rooms in hostile nations.

    Was he bringing these documents with him to sell? Or just to show to leaders or oligarchs in those countries to impress them?

    Trump doesn’t put all that effort into hauling things around unless it’s extraordinarily important to his ego or he thinks he can makes money off them.

    “Boxes of documents even came with Trump on foreign travel,” The Post noted, “following him to hotel rooms around the world — including countries considered foreign adversaries of the United States.”

    When Robert Mueller’s team tried to investigate Trump’s ties to Russia and his possibly sharing sensitive military information with them, they were stonewalled.

    The Mueller Report identified ten specific instances of Trump trying to obstruct the investigation, including offering the bribe of a pardon to Paul Manafort, asking FBI Director Comey to “go easy” on General Flynn after his dinner with Putin, and directing Attorney General Jeff Sessions to limit Mueller’s ability to investigate Trump’s connections to Russia.

    As the Mueller Report noted:

    “The President launched public attacks on the investigation and individuals involved in it who could possess evidence adverse to the President, while in private the President engaged in a series of targeted efforts to control the investigation.

    “For instance, the President attempted to remove the Attorney General; he sought to have Attorney General Sessions un-recuse himself and limit the investigation; he sought to prevent public disclosure of information about the June 9, 2016 meeting between Russians and campaign officials; and he used public forums to attack potential witnesses who might offer adverse information and to praise witnesses who declined to cooperate with the government.”

    It adds, detailing Trump’s specific Obstruction of Justice crimes:

    “These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”

    There are, after all, credible assertions from American intelligence that when Trump was elected, members of Russian intelligence and Putin’s inner circle were literally partying in Moscow, celebrating a victory they believed they made happen.

    And apparently Putin and his intelligence operatives had good reason to be popping the champagne in November, 2016. They were quickly paid off in a big way.

    In his first months in office, Trump outed an Israeli spy to the Russian Ambassador in what he thought was going to be a “secret Oval Office meeting” (the Russians released the photo to the press), resulting in MOSAD having to “burn” (relocate, change identity of) that spy.

    The undercover agent was apparently working in Syria that year against the Russians, who were embroiled in the midst of Assad’s Civil War and indiscriminately bombing Aleppo into rubble.

    That, in turn, prompted the CIA to worry that a longtime American spy buried deep in the Kremlin was similarly vulnerable to Trump handing him over to Putin.

    As CNN noted (when the story leaked two years later):

    “The source was considered the highest level source for the US inside the Kremlin, high up in the national security infrastructure, according to the source familiar with the matter and a former senior intelligence official.
    “According to CNN’s sources, the spy had access to Putin and could even provide images of documents on the Russian leader’s desk.”

    The CIA concluded that the risk Trump had burned or was about to burn our spy inside the Kremlin was so great that — at massive loss to US intelligence abilities that may even have otherwise helped forestall the invasion of Ukraine — they pulled our spy out of Russia in the first year of Trump’s presidency, 2017.

    Similarly, when they met in Helsinki on July 16, 2018, Trump and Putin talked in private for several hours and Trump ordered his translators’ notes destroyed; there is also concern that much of their conversation was done out of the hearing of the US’s translator (Putin is fluent in English) who may have been relegated to a distant part of the rather large empty ballroom in which they met.

    The Washington Post reported, after a leak six months later, that when Trump met privately for those two hours with Putin the CIA went into “panic mode.” A US intelligence official told the Post:

    “There was this gasp’ at the CIA’s Langley, Virginia headquarters. You literally had people in panic mode watching it at Langley. On all floors. Just shock.”

    Three weeks after Trump’s July 16, 2018 meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Senator Rand Paul made a solo trip to Moscow to personally hand-deliver a document or package of documents from Trump to Putin. Its contents are still unknown, although Paul told the press it was a “personal” letter of some sort.

    Senator Paul has also consistently taken Trump’s and Putin’s side with regard to the Ukraine war: he single-handedly blocked a $40 billion military aid package in the Senate. When the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago, he responded with a call for the repeal of the Espionage Act. He further suggested the FBI may have “planted” Secret documents at Mar-a-Lago.

    Ten days after Paul’s trip to Moscow, The New York Times reported that the CIA was worried because their sources inside Moscow had suddenly “gone silent”:

    “The full reasons the sources have gone silent are not known,” the Times reported, but Trump having intentionally burned a man working for the FBI — whose job at that time was to find and reveal Russian agents involved in or close to the Trump campaign — may also have had something to do with it.

    “[C]urrent and former officials said the exposure of sources inside the United States has also complicated matters,” noted the Times. “This year, the identity of an F.B.I. informant, Stefan Halper, became public after [Trump-loyal MAGA Republican] House lawmakers sought information on him and the White House allowed the information to be shared. Mr. Halper, an American academic based in Britain, had been sent to talk to Trump campaign advisers who were under F.B.I. scrutiny for their ties to Russia.”

    Things were picking up the following year, in 2019, as Putin was planning his invasion of Ukraine while Trump was preparing for the 2020 election.

    In July 2019, Trump had conversations with five foreign leaders during and just before a presidential visit that month to Mar-a-Lago; they included Putin and the Emir of Qatar.

    In one of those conversations, according to a high-level US Intelligence source, Trump “made promises” to a “world leader” that were so alarming it provoked a national security scramble across multiple agencies.

    As The Washington Post noted in an article titled “Trump’s communications with foreign leader are part of whistleblower complaint that spurred standoff between spy chief and Congress”:

    “Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson determined that the complaint [against Trump] was credible and troubling enough to be considered a matter of ‘urgent concern,’ a legal threshold that requires notification of congressional oversight committees.”

    On the last day of that month, July 31, Trump had another private conversation with Putin.

    The White House spokespeople told Congress and the press that Trump said that he and Putin discussed “wildfires” and “trade between the nations.” No droids in this car…

    But the following week, on August 2nd, The Daily Beast’s Betsy Swan reported that Trump had that week asked the Office of the Director of National Intelligence for a list of all its employees (including all our “spies”) who had worked there more than 90 days, and the request had intelligence officials experiencing “disquiet.”

    Perhaps just by coincidence, months after Trump left office with cases of classified documents, The New York Times ran a story with the headline Captured, Killed or Compromised: C.I.A. Admits to Losing Dozens of Informants:

    “Top American counterintelligence officials warned every C.I.A. station and base around the world last week,” the Times’ story’s lede began, “about troubling numbers of informants recruited from other countries to spy for the United States being captured or killed, people familiar with the matter said.
    “The message, in an unusual top secret cable, said that the C.I.A.’s counterintelligence mission center had looked at dozens of cases in the last several years involving foreign informants who had been killed, arrested or most likely compromised. Although brief, the cable laid out the specific number of agents executed by rival intelligence agencies — a closely held detail that counterintelligence officials typically do not share in such cables.”

    If it turns out the Trump has been acting as an agent for Russia, how long might this have been going on?

    Czechoslovakia’s Státní bezpečnost (StB) first started paying attention to Trump back in 1977, as documented by the German newspaper Bild when the StB’s files were declassified, because Trump married Czech model Ivana Zelnickova, his first wife, recently buried on his golf course in New Jersey.

    Czechoslovakia at that time was part of the Warsaw Pact with the Soviet Union, and Ivana and her family had been raised as good communists. Now that a Czech citizen was married into a wealthy and prominent American family, the StB saw an opportunity and started tracking Trump virtually from his engagement.

    As 2016 and 2018 investigations by The Guardian found:

    “Ivana’s father, Miloš Zelníček, gave regular information to the local StB office about his daughter’s visits from the US and on his celebrity son-in-law’s career in New York. Zelníček was classified as a ‘conspiratorial’ informer. His relationship with the StB lasted until the end of the communist regime.”

    An investigative reporting breakthrough by Craig Unger for his book American Kompromat led Unger to Uri Shvets, a former KGB spy who’d been posted to Washington, DC for years as a correspondent for the Soviet news agency TASS.

    Shvets told the story — from his own knowledge — of how Trump and Ivana visited Moscow in 1987 and were essentially recruited or seduced by the KGB, a trip corroborated by Luke Harding in his book Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win.

    Their trip was coordinated by Intourist, the Soviet travel agency that was a front for the KGB, and the Trumps’ handlers regaled Donald and Ivana with Soviet talking points, presumably about things like the horrors of NATO.

    The KGB’s psychological profile of Trump had determined he was vulnerable to flattery and not much of a deep thinker, so they told him repeatedly how brilliant he was and that he should run for president in the US.

    Much to the astonishment and jubilation of the KGB, Trump returned from Moscow to the US to give a Republican presidential campaign speech that fall in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

    He then purchased a large ad in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Boston Globe on September 1, 1987 that questioned America’s ongoing support of Japan and NATO, both thorns in the side of the USSR and their Chinese allies.

    Trump’s ad laid it on the line:

    “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests? ... The world is laughing at America’s politicians as we protect ships we don’t own, carrying oil we don’t need, destined for allies who won’t help.”

    As The Guardian reported in 2021:

    “The bizarre intervention was cause for astonishment and jubilation in Russia. A few days later Shvets, who had returned home by now, was at the headquarters of the KGB’s first chief directorate in Yasenevo when he received a cable celebrating the ad as a successful ‘active measure’ executed by a new KGB asset.
    “’It was unprecedented,’ [Shvets said.] … It was hard to believe that somebody would publish it under his name and that it will impress real serious people in the west but it did and, finally, this guy became the president.’”

    Meanwhile, Putin was making friends with powerful influence over American foreign policy.

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who flipped his nation into a strongman neofascist state following an unsuccessful attempted coup in 2016 (he imprisoned and tortured numerous journalists and political opponents), has been deepening his relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin ever since that US election year.

    In 2017, Erdogan apparently gained access to America’s deepest secrets by secretly paying off General Michael Flynn even as Flynn became Trump’s National Security Advisor, who also had at least one secret phone conversation with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak after Flynn started working in the White House.

    Flynn pleaded guilty in December of 2017 to “willfully and knowingly” making “false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the FBI about one of those conversations with Russian Ambassador Kislyak. Flynn was also an unregistered agent of a foreign government while working in the White House: he had also taken about a half-million dollars from Erdogan.

    Around the time he was leaving office, Trump pardoned Flynn, essentially burying the entire story.

    The plot thickened when America learned, from a blockbuster 2022 report in Axios by Jonathan Swan, that just before leaving office, back on October 21, 2020, Trump had signed Executive Order 13957.

    It would allow him to instantly fire as many as 50,000 senior federal employees encompassing the Civil Service management of every government agency including the FBI, CIA, NSA, large parts of the Pentagon, and DHS, and allow Trump to replace all of them with nakedly political loyalist appointees.

    And it wouldn’t stop there. As Donald Moynihan wrote for Slate about this “Schedule F” Executive Order:

    “Schedule F would burn down the civil service system. It would be a government of the lawless leading the incompetent. …
    “Government data unfavorable to the administration would be suppressed or altered. Public statements about what government actors are actually doing would become rarer and less believable. And questionable actions by the security forces to target political enemies and protect friends could become routine.
    “Career public employees would be forced to choose between their oath to the Constitution—in effect, their oath to serve the public—and keeping their job. They will have their loyalty questioned based on which political organizations they associated with in college, or voter registration, or social media activity. Some will not go along with the program. They will be fired. Or never join the government in the first place.”

    Trump didn’t have the time to push that executive order through the federal bureaucracy, but it gives us a clear picture of his vision for a second Trump administration.

    From campaigning to destroy NATO to opposing aid to Ukraine to demolishing the free world’s confidence in America’s ability to keep top secret information confidential, Trump’s goal appears to be, to paraphrase Ron DeSantis, to “Make America Russia.”

    After all, it’s not like we’ve never had a rightwing coup attempt before in this country: wealthy Republican industrialists tried to kidnap and kill President Franklin Roosevelt 92 years ago and turn America into an Italian/German-style fascist state “friendly to capitalism.”

    Not a single one of those conspirators was ever arrested or tried; why not try again?



    https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/how-has-trump-sided-with-putin-about-collusion/
     
  3. shootersa

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    This entire bit of propaganda rests on the assumption that there is a Trump/Russian conspiracy or collusion or ............. something.

    An assumption that not only has not been established, but an assumption that has been exposed as a political dirty trick paid for by Clinton/DNC, funded with an ILLEGAL payment through a top tier law firm, and backed up by a conspiracy with the FBI/DOJ to influence a presidential election ILLEGALLY.
     
    1. At00micAsh
      Hasn't the Steele Document been proven to be a fabrication of the Clinton Foundation that was approved by the DNC with direct involvement from Whitehouse?
       
      At00micAsh, Jun 18, 2023
    2. stumbler
      Again just a string of totally false propaganda statements. Just the same lies told over and over and over again trying to create the illusion of truth where non exists. Even after the lies have been exposed more times than I can count.
       
      stumbler, Jun 18, 2023
    3. stumbler
      Absolutely not @ At00micAsh. In fact everything you said there is false.
      Fusion GPS was first hired to do opo research on Trump by the conservative site The Free Beacon. The Clinton Campaign hired them after Trump won the nomination. And no the White House never had anything to do with it.

      And the Steele Dossier has actually held up very well for something that was just raw intelligence from Russian sources. And the Steele Dossier was not the reason the FBI opened their investigation into the Trump campaign colluding with Putin/Russia.

      https://forum.xnxx.com/threads/once-and-for-all-the-steele-dossier.667600/
       
      stumbler, Jun 19, 2023
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    A perfect example of pro Putin false propaganda being pushed by his US supporters. Both statements are totally false. NATO, the EU and other countries are pouring in aid along with the US. And NATO fought along side the US every step of the way in both Afghanistan and Iraq.


    Countries That Have Sent the Most Aid to Ukraine
    While the U.S. has sent the most aid in total dollars, Ukraine’s neighbors are contributing the most on a per GDP basis.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...e-countries-have-sent-the-most-aid-to-ukraine


    And the purpose of false propaganda like this is to try and convince Americans only the US is paying to create division, weaken US resolve for Ukraine defeating Putin/Russia, and also weaken US support for NATO. All of which benefits Putin.

    This thread is also filled with multiple examples of you taking Putin/Russia's side over the United States pf America.
     
  5. shootersa

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    So tell us, stumbler, which of the allegations in the Steele dossier have been proven and show that Trump and Putin had a plan?
    Rhetorical question. None of them. Not a single allegation was proven and showed a Trump/Putin collusion.

    Tell us Stumbler, who paid for the Steele Dossier?
    Clinton/DNC paid up to $9.2 MILLION to fusion GPS, through its law firm Perkins Coie, to fund the Dossier. Fusion in turn hired Christopher Steele, a former BRITISH SECRET SERVICE OPERATIVE to compile the dossier. Marc Elias, the Perkins Coie lawyer who handled the deal, also met several times with Fusion GPS to discuss the progress and "offer suggested talking points".

    And tell us Stumbler, was it all legal?
    Well, the DNC/Clinton campaign was fined $113,000 for "misreporting" the Clinton/DNC payments through Perkins Coie. So, no, not legal.
     
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    ttps://forum.xnxx.com/threads/once-and-for-all-the-steele-dossier.667600/

    Conservative Website Initially Hired Firm That Later Produced Trump Dossier

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-hired-firm-that-later-produced-trump-dossier

    It wawsabsolutely legal for the Clinton Campaign and DNC to hire Fusion GPS for opo research on Trump just like it was for the Free Beacon to hire them first. And just as legal for the Trump campaign to hire Cambridge Analytical whidch was a UK firm.

    Now was it legal for Don Jr and members of the Trump campaign to meet in a secret meeting with Russian agents to get dirt on Hillary Clinton?
     
  7. shootersa

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    Hold on.
    First, none of the allegations connecting Putin and Trump that were in the Steele Dossier were true. They were lies.
    Second, dodging with who first paid for the Fusion work clearly shows that we know Clinton/the DNC hired Fusion who hired Steele to create the Steele Dossier. Steele was a foreign national and it is ILLEGAL for a campaign to accept anything of value from a foreign agent.
    Third, it was absolutely NOT legal for them to accept anything of value from Steele. It was absolutely ILLEGAL for them to hide their payment by laundering it through Perkins Coie.

    Now as to the "secret" meeting with Russian agents, as soon as Don Jr. understood who he was meeting with and their mission he dumped them like week old fish. He was stupid, but not violating any law to meet with people who claimed to have dirt on Clinton. And he did exactly what he was supposed to when he tripped to what was going on.
     
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    Left or right dont care.. After all thats happened so openly in the last few years i do not trust any government agencies.
     
  9. stumbler

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    Why of course. Always the Putin asset and pawn. Time to confiscate his passports.

    Trump jokingly threatens to flee to Russia to avoid prosecution: 'I'd share a gold domed suite with Vladimir'

    Travis Gettys
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    Donald Trump jokingly threatened to flee to Russia to avoid prosecution in Georgia.

    A Fulton County judge set bond for the former president at $200,000, and Trump said he would surrender to authorities a day ahead of Friday's deadline, and then he issued a complaint about the conditions that acknowledged longstanding speculation that he would flee the country to evade accountability.

    "The failed District Attorney of Fulton County (Atlanta), Fani Willis, insisted on a $200,000 Bond from me," Trump posted on Truth Social. "I assume, therefore, that she thought I was a 'flight' risk – I’d fly far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a gold domed suite with Vladimir, never to be seen or heard from again. Would I be able to take my very 'understated' airplane with the gold TRUMP affixed for all to see. Probably not, I’d be much better off flying commercial – I’m sure nobody would recognize me!"



    Trump was indicted last week with 18 other co-conspirators on racketeering and other charges related to the wide-ranging effort to overturn his election loss in Georgia, and he faces a total of 91 charges in four separate cases.



    https://www.rawstory.com/is-trump-a-flight-risk/
     
    1. Ficxa 479
      Yes we did but why it is secret assessment. Why it is not open.
       
      Ficxa 479, Aug 22, 2023
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    Trump Remains Russia’s Favorite but This GOPer Is New No.2
    Julia Davis
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    In Russia, multiple indictments of former U.S. President Donald J. Trump prompted intense coverage and detailed discussions in the Kremlin-controlled state media. Russian propagandists and analysts speculate that the criminal prosecutions won’t hurt their favorite candidate, but only bolster his popularity. Encouraged by their belief that most of the GOP’s top contenders would limit or stop U.S. aid to Ukraine, Russian talking heads nonetheless prefer Trump himself.

    Referring to Trump’s booking record in Georgia, reporter Valentin Bogdanov, who is based in New York City, told the audience of 60 Minutes, “Our strawberry blonde! There is only one like him in the United States.” In his report for the evening edition of Vesti on channel Rossiya-1, Bogdanov showcased Trump’s mugshot along with that of Frank Sinatra, Michael Jackson, and Elvis Presley. He mused that in his legal struggle, Trump likely sees his rightful place alongside Martin Luther King Jr. and Nelson Mandela, like someone “who suffered for the sake of truth.”

    During his Saturday show on channel Solovyov Live, Yevgeny Satanovsky continued the same train of thought, lionizing Trump alongside some of the most prominent historic figures: “He is like Nelson Mandela, like Martin Luther King Jr., he is being persecuted by an evil shadow government!” Satanovsky feverishly claimed that Trump might be assassinated, like Abraham Lincoln or John F. Kennedy.

    Sentiments aside, Putin’s mouthpieces are considering Trump’s runners-up, in case he is unable to reach the finish line. The Russians initially placed their hopes in Ron DeSantis, whose Russian nickname is “Number Two,” but another contender captured their attention after the first Republican debate. Vivek Ramaswamy became an overnight success in Moscow, because of his geopolitical naiveté and statements about cutting U.S. assistance to Ukraine.


    Friday’s broadcast of 60 Minutes included a montage of Ramaswamy’s debate performance set to Johnny Thunder’s 1968 song, “I’m Alive.” Multiple clips of his statements were peppered throughout the segment and featured all over Russian state media, including RT.

    Political scientist Vladimir Kornilov pointed out, “What’s most important—the most telling moment—did you hear the excitement in the audience when Ramaswamy said he wouldn’t support continued U.S. aid to Ukraine? There was an ovation in the auditorium! This shows that Ukraine will certainly experience problems!”

    Despite being pleased with Ramaswamy’s rhetoric, Kornilov surmised: “The debate has demonstrated that Trump has no real competition within the Republican party.”

    In Russia, the final outcome of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is roundly considered to be dependent on the outcome of the next presidential election. State media pundits are openly pining for the day when America focuses predominantly on its own issues, ceases to be a global driving force and becomes merely another “regional leader.”

    What Putin’s marauding troops weren’t able to take by force is expected to be handed over by Trump or a Trump-adjacent candidate. Political commentator Sergey Strokan openly said that the outcome of the American presidential elections will ultimately determine how and when the war in Ukraine will end.

    Despite delighting in Ramaswamy’s commentary, Strokan noted, “We just watched the debate. The most important thing is that all of it was overshadowed by the one who wasn’t there: ex-President Donald Trump!” Strokan alleged that consciously or subconsciously, Ramaswamy is copying Trump, down to his mannerisms. Calling the former president “America’s diagnosis,” Strokan argued that his approach to governing the country is here to stay and Ramaswamy is one of Trump’s pupils.

    Host Evgeny Popov noted, “We should take a closer look at this Mr. Ramaswamy. The last time, we had installed President Trump for Americans, but our bet didn’t quite work out. Why not try again? Let’s give it another try and see how Ramaswamy will perform, in case Trump doesn’t manage to win the post of the president.”

    Perhaps recalling that Russian TV programs can also be viewed abroad, he quickly added, “Just kidding.”



    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-remains-russia-favorite-goper-211950787.html
     
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    Now here's some insight.
    Clearly the despicables put Vivek Ramaswamy at the top of the list of deplorables that they have to be afraid of.
    How do we know?
    Cause already the despicables are starting the campaign to put Ramaswamy in the car with the Russians.
    Next up, how Ramaswamy is a racist/sexist.
    Followed by the sexual misconduct allegations.
    Wonder if Stormy or Dr. Ford are available?
     
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    1. anon_de_plume
      So shooter agrees with Vivek in that we need to raise the minimum voting and to 25!
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 29, 2023
    2. shootersa
      Troll attempt.
      Fail.
       
      shootersa, Aug 29, 2023
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    3. anon_de_plume
      You can't deal with the truth!
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 29, 2023
  12. stumbler

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    Trump couldn't possibly be a Russian asset...could he?

    Thom Hartmann
    August 28, 2023, 4:37 AM ET


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    Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin 99Photo via AFP)


    Imagine you’re in the FBI overseeing national security and a candidate for President for the United States hired to run his campaign a man who’d:
    taken $66 million from Russian intelligence services via Putin-friendly oligarchs,
    — helped Russia install their own puppet government in Ukraine in 2010,
    — was paid $1 million a year to help the corrupt dictator Mobutu Sese Seko of Zaire (now Democratic Republic of the Congo), solidify his relationship with Moscow,
    — forced his party to remove references in their platform to defending Ukrainian democracy,
    — gave a Russian intelligence agent top-secret insider campaign information about voters in 6 swing states so they could run an ultimately successful micro-targeted Facebook campaign to help the candidate,
    — offered to run the campaign for free because he’d been well-compensated by Russian intelligence services,
    — and then repeatedly lied to the FBI about his connections to Putin and Russia, leading to his being charged, convicted, and imprisoned until that candidate pardoned him.


    Imagine that candidate had visited Moscow with his Soviet-citizen wife — whose father was a Soviet agent — and been groomed all the way back in 1987 by Russian intelligence (then Soviet intelligence, the KGB) to run for president.

    — That he came back home from that 1987 trip to Moscow and spent $100,000 to run full-page ads in three major US newspapers urging America to abandon and leave defenseless its allies in Europe and Asia.
    — That he then went to New Hampshire a month later and did a campaign rally to see if there was enough support for him to run for president.
    — That US intelligence officers reported that the 1987 ad and campaign for president led to a champagne-laced celebration in Moscow, with Russian intelligence calling it one of their most successful infiltration/influence campaigns in decades.


    Imagine if during his campaign for the White House that president — when only a candidate — had inked a secret deal with Russia to earn hundreds of millions of dollars by putting a hotel with his name on it in Moscow, and kept it concealed from the American public throughout the campaign.

    Imagine that he made extensive use of his opponent’s emails that had been hacked by Russian intelligence services, who then ran a Facebook operation hyping that same information that reached 26 million targeted Americans in 6 swing states, helping him win the Electoral College vote.

    Imagine that during the 2016 campaign an insider with Russian connections learned that Russia had successfully hacked this candidate’s opponent’s emails on behalf of the candidate before the hack was revealed on Wikileaks during the Democratic National Convention where his opponent was nominated for president…and that information came to you via an informant.

    Imagine that candidate became president 29 years after his first Moscow trip and in his first weeks in office, presumably as thanks for their help, invited the Russian ambassador and the Russian foreign minister to a covert meeting in the Oval Office and gave them top-secret information on a spy about whom Russia had been concerned; that spy was then “burned.”

    Imagine that this was nothing new for that president’s party: that two presidents before him had gained the White House by treasonous collaboration with openly hostile foreign powers (North Vietnam in 1968 and Iran in 1980). That congressional members of his own party would then go on to vote against compiling information about war crimes committed in Ukraine by Russia. That a senator from that party by the name of Rand Paul made a private trip to Russia to hand-deliver possibly stolen sealed “documents” to Putin’s intelligence service given him in confidence by that president.

    Imagine that president had a series of nearly 20 secret telephone conversations with Putin (for which the records of what was said no longer exist) and then unilaterally — in defiance of both Congress and the law — blocked military aid to Ukraine while Russia was massing troops on its borders. And then followed those up with a years-long campaign to destroy NATO, which was Russia’s top military concern. And openly praised and deferred to Putin while trash-talking American intelligence services.

    Imagine that the FBI worked with a special prosecutor named Mueller to determine the extent of Russian involvement in the 2016 election and:

    — Found that Russian interference in the 2016 election was “sweeping and systemic.”
    — Brought indictments against 37 individuals including six Trump advisers and 26 Russian nationals, secured seven guilty pleas or convictions, and found “compelling evidence” that the president himself had stonewalled or lied to investigators and “obstructed justice on multiple occasions.”
    — Referred 14 criminal matters to the Justice Department, where the president’s hand-picked Attorney General — who’d helped President George HW Bush cover up the Iran/Contra Treason Scandal — ignored them and let them lapse.
    — Uncovered five specific examples of the president criminally obstructing justice in ways that could easily have been prosecuted.


    Imagine that when that president ran for re-election Russia again came to his aid by hacking his 2020 opponent’s family members, both looking for and trying to plant damaging information suggesting his opponent’s family was corrupt. That Russia then spread rumors across social media to that effect on the candidate’s behalf in the months before the election.

    Imagine that when he nevertheless lost, Russian intelligence officers used social media to amplify his claims the election was stolen, leading to an attempted coup conspiracy involving the assassination of the Vice President and Speaker of the House.

    Imagine that the FBI — in part, during that president’s time in office — compiled material for a report concluding that:

    “Throughout the [2020] election, Russia’s online influence actors sought to amplify mistrust in the electoral process by denigrating mail-in ballots, highlighting alleged irregularities, and accusing the Democratic Party of voter fraud.”


    So, if you were in the FBI and knew all that, how do you imagine you’d react?

    Would you want to dig deeper, to determine if an agent of a hostile foreign power was trying to co-opt or even destroy America from within, a la The Manchurian Candidate?

    This week we learned that Trump-humper John Durham, a former federal prosecutor who should know better, can’t imagine any of this.

    He issued a 306-page report on his well-paid four-year investigation in a futile effort to salvage his reputation (or burnish it with Trump) claiming that the FBI really had “no basis” to investigate the possibility that the 2016 Trump campaign might have been infiltrated or corrupted by Russian intelligence.

    Durham wrote there was “a complete lack of information from the Intelligence Community that corroborated the hypothesis upon which the [2016] Crossfire Hurricane investigation [of Trump’s connections to Russia and Putin] was predicated.” (I have to admit, I almost spit out my coffee when reading that line.)

    During the course of his $6.6 million “investigation,” Durham pressed charges against two people, costing each a fortune in legal fees and damaging their reputations, and in both cases the individuals were exonerated by a jury of their peers.

    Durham later claimed he was “misunderstood” by the media, and that he brought the charges not because he thought he could easily win the cases but because he was interested in defining “the narrative,” apparently in a way that would be favorable to Trump:

    “[D]efense counsel has presumed the Government's [Durham’s] bad faith and asserts that the Special Counsel’s [Durham’s] Office intentionally sought to politicize this case, inflame media coverage, and taint the jury pool,” Durham wrote last year. “That is simply not true. If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated, or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the Government’s Motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the Government’s inclusion of this information.”

    When Bill Barr and John Durham took multiple taxpayer-funded luxury trips to Italy to interrogate that country’s government about possible FBI wrongdoing in the Hurricane Crossfire investigation of Trump and Russia, they instead discovered evidence of specific “financial crimes” committed by Trump himself that were so serious they aborted the trip and Barr authorized himself to dig deeper.

    The details of those Trump crimes aren’t mentioned in yesterday’s Durham report, and there’s no explanation for their absence. Barr’s “digging” was, perhaps, simply another cover-up like he did with Iran-Contra back in the day.

    Apparently Durham’s imagination couldn’t extend to the possibility that Trump has been a Russian asset for at least 30 years and continues to be one to this day. After all, there’s obviously no connection between him and Russia, right?



    https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/is-trump-a-russian-asset/
     
  13. shootersa

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    And here we thought the whole Trump/Russia thingy had been laid to rest once and for all. Apparently though, when the despicables run out of other shit to post about Trump, we get treated to the same old same old ..............
    Well, here's a happy trip down memory lane.


    DNI Releases CIA Documents on Clinton’s ‘Plan’ to Tie Trump Campaign to Russia (yahoo.com)
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    DNI Releases CIA Documents on Clinton’s ‘Plan’ to Tie Trump Campaign to Russia
    Mairead McArdle
    October 6, 2020·2 min read

    Former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s “plan” to tie the Trump campaign to Russia as a means of distracting the public from her private email server scandal before the 2016 election, according to newly declassified documents.

    Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Tuesday declassified Brennan’s handwritten notes along with a CIA memo showing that officials referred the alleged scheme to the FBI for potential investigation.

    “Today, at the direction of President Trump, I declassified additional documents relevant to ongoing Congressional oversight and investigative activities,” Ratcliffe said in a statement.

    Brennan’s notes, which were taken after he briefed Obama on the intelligence, cite “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service,” which was “alleged approved by Hillary Clinton.”

    The heavily-redacted CIA memo references “an exchange discussing U.S. presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s approval of a plan concerning U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.”

    In 2016, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee contracted Fusion GPS and former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele to compile the controversial Russian dossier, which purported to draw a connection between the Trump campaign and Russia and contained salacious allegations about Trump, then the Republican nominee.

    The dossier was later used in applications to surveil Trump associate Carter Page. The Justice Department’s inspector general has since concluded that the FBI did not inform the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that the dossier was unreliable.

    “The following information is provided for the exclusive use of your bureau for background investigative action or lead purposes as appropriate,” states the CIA memo, which was sent to then-FBI Director James Comey and Peter Strzok, then the deputy assistant director of counterintelligence.

    Last week, Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee that he did not remember whether he received an investigative referral on Clinton in September 2016.

    “That doesn’t ring any bells with me,” Comey said.

    “That’s a pretty stunning thing that it doesn’t ring a bell,” Republican Chairman Lindsey Graham responded. “You get this inquiry from the intelligence community to look at the Clinton campaign trying to create a distraction, accusing Trump of being a Russian agent or a Russian stooge.”

    The newly declassified documents have been forwarded to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
     
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      Guess Hillary started all this even before Bill was even president...
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 29, 2023
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    "The nearly 1,000-page report, the fifth and final one from the Republican-led Senate intelligence committee on the Russia investigation, details how Russia launched an aggressive effort to interfere in the election on Trump’s behalf. It says the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers."
     
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    "The report is the culmination of a bipartisan probe that produced what the committee called “the most comprehensive description to date of Russia’s activities and the threat they posed.” The investigation spanned more than three years as the panel’s leaders said they wanted to thoroughly document the unprecedented attack on U.S. elections."
     
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    According to the Russians!!!!!!! For fuck sake!!!!
    "Hillary Clinton personally signed off on the Russiagate farce to distract attention from her email scandal,
    according to a Russian intelligence analysis that was obtained by U.S. intelligence agencies in July 2016."
     
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    This thread has always been a testament to those who support Putin/Russia over the United States of America. You are citing a bi=partisan Senate investigation. And treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans with Russian false propaganda.



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