First and foremost, I just wanna say that its really cool that all of you are sticking up for the "chubby guy". Because truth be told, I am actually a tad overweight and i've had a constant problem trying to go from "friends with girls" to a "girlfriend". Some of my female friends have the stereotypical "hot" boyfriend who end up treating them like shit; it pisses me off when they get treated like that, but equally so when they go for repeats!

 

Its true women prefer the asshole or the not so nice guy.

I used to be one of these nice guys and was burned so many times in relationships. I just learned to not be so nice. I see alot of my friends they are the nicest guys in the world but when they meet someone the girl dumps him after a month or two. My buddies that are married are totaly whipped. even my brother is like that.

I really love my girlfriend but im not so nice to her all the time. I complent her and things like that but i always make sure she doesnt get too caught up in it.

For example tonight is friday night and she called me all day and tells me she cant wait to see me tonight. The reallity is im going to tell her I feel like staying home and then i will probably hang out with my buddies and i will call her and tell her that, or she will call when i am hanging out with them.

This one time we were discusing something and i asked her a question and she did not answer right away. This was extrememly hard and the old me would not have done it but , i got up and started getting my jacket on and left her place. Lets just say that she was upset and she did not expect me to do that. It was necessary and i feel that it made her feel that she had less of a hold on me.

Sometimes it means missing a phone call on purpose or missing a date or something.It took years for me to turn around my "pushover behaviour". I know this reall sounds bad but for once i actually feel in control of this relationship and i know were we are headed.I really do love her but I know that im never going to obsess if she breaks up with me even though i will be extremely sad. She knows that.Its not worth it anymore to be so upset over something.

She is such a nice girl though and i know i got it made with her. I woulld never really leave her or cheat on her.

But you cant always be nice.
The saying " nice guys finish last" is so true.

wow this post ended up being longer than i originally intended.

 

I've had a lifetime of experiences like yours....always being the nice guy.

So I did the same as you......and still got dumped!!

.....ho hum....!

 

Umm...are u kidding me? perposly missing phone calls an dates...Thats fucking rude. if u want control of your relationship tlak about that an just be like im not ganna be whiped by you (to yer g/f) you donthave to be an asshole...Wow....wtf

 

oh btw..Id rather be with the chubby guy that treats me right. Looks can fade away as u get older an rock hard abs turn to mush when yer 80. If your with a nice guy that never goes away...But hey thats my opinion cuz thats how my boyfriend is treats me like a princess but then again hes really good looking too, im a lucky girl!!

 

Okay first off, not all hot guys treat girls like shit. Second, if you're a nice guy, you're just not going to be able to change. You can put up an act of being the "bad boy" or whatever but eventually those old wanting to be loved or wanting to treat a girl like the best girl in the world feelings are probably going to resurface and you'll be just like you were before, the "nice guy". Oh and being a bad boy or whatever isn't really something you can just start doing, it's pretty much a mindset, like that you can do whatever you want whenever you want and if anybody doesn't like it, too bad. Also, a lot of "bad boys" are probably that way for a reason. I agree with the whole alpha male thing Shake I think talked about. There is always going to be a balance to guys, there's going to be an alpha male and the other males who either follow the alpha male or are pretty much forced to either confront him or just stay out of his way. It makes sense that women want a guy who isn't so easy to get, especially one who is the alpha male because he's viewed as a strong, fearless person who isn't going to let anybody push him over. Or maybe it's just that there isn't attraction there, that could be it.

 

peaches experince reminds of a waaay harsher incident that happened on family guy. Any of u see that episode? its when stewie trys to get a date with Olivia, and brian teaches him how to act like the "bad guy".

It's pretty mean to do that in real life but in Family Guy its all gooood!:twisted: :twisted:

 

I've had problems falling asleep recently, and among thoughts of life, universal questions, and sheep I had an idea. In many periods of the past it would be a survival trait for a woman to be willing to offer sex to an agressive man in order to protect herself. Suppose that part of that behavior is hereditary? A woman might leave a nice guy for an asshole simply because, instinctively, she feels that the nice guy won't be able to protect her.

As I said, it's just a thought, but I'd like to hear what other people (particularly women) think.

 

it might just be a woman thing because I'm a guy who's into guys, and assholes just make me want to pummel their faces in.

 

Hot assholes really turn some people on. Not me, no, no, I'm a lesbian, I like girls---Oh, a hot asshole on a girl? thats a different story!

 

What do you consider a " Bad Boy " ?

 

I think there's some truth in this, but there's a difference between a powerful, resolute man who will protect me, and an arrogant, hostile man who will abuse me. The latter type is not strong, he's insecure and cowardly. When women go for "bad boys", I suspect it has very different roots. It's more a learned behavior, derived from being part of a dysfunctional family or prior violent relationships.

 

Either that or a deep-down desire to get fucked hard.

 

I am an attractive thin Asian female, I have been stupid as to date someone for their looks... and they usually turn out to be Assholes and on more than one ocation gay.

I take the chubby guy any day, my BF is chubby

 

if my boyfriend treats me like shit i treat him the same way and the other way around

 

Sounds like a lovely relationship.

 

I believe the commonly held belief in the scientific community is that most women wish, usually subconciously, to procreate with said 'bad boys' so that their children will have the agressive traits needed for survival, such as those that the 'bad boys' display. However, it has also been observed that most women also tend to look for longer-lasting relationships not with 'assholes', but with nuturing, caring 'nice guys' so that the woman's children will have a steadfast father figure to raise them.

 

The problem being that "aggressive traits" are no longer necessary for our survival...and in fact may hasten our collective demise. Another bygone relic of our evolution in the jungle, as useful as the appendix and the muscles we have to swing our tails with.

Oh, wait, those muscles DO have their uses.