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Black Rose, I have a question for you. Sometimes(1-2 times per month), my wife teels me about her phantasies (beeing a luxury call girl, sex with a rich stranger, banged by 4-5 men,double penetration by 2 strangers, sex with guy from workplace etc). I listen her very carefully and share my opinion, some of them really turns me hot (and I show her in that very moment). Seems she is very fond of this thing (sharing with me all these).

Is it really important fo a woman to share these things with someone? I mean... is it better to be sometimes more " a buddy" than "a husband" ?

 

You need to be both. Think how you want her, 'a lady in the streets and a freak in the bed' (i love that song quote!), well it's the same for her. Fulfill her fantasies as best you can, let her know her fantasies are valid and not worthless. I would of course give her the same advise to fill all your fantasies as best she can. It is one of the utmost arousing things a mate can do for his\her partner.

Now having been on the opposite end of this advise it is very demeaning to have such deep seeded fantasies that go unfulfilled then to have your mate dehumanize them by belittling you. Almost so embarassing that it hurts and you shut your sexuality down until it has nothing to do but explode.

So to answer your question be her husband ... a husband (or wife) in my opinion is the greatest compliment you can give your wife. Give all of you. Be her friend, her fuck buddie, her strength, her weakness, her tiger in the bed, her world. Just know when to wear which hat. If you can give completely of yourself unconditionally you will find that the relationship is the universe and the sex will blow your mind. Now this must go both ways for it to really work.

 

Believe me I have seriously considered becoming an escort. I may have to before long. Another option is go to a legal brothel and work there, you are your own boss and just pay rent.

 

yes

It does turn me on one day then sucks the next. Ive done that and yes for me there is times that i like it.

 

I fantasize about this quite often and i've came really close hiring a prostitute but i haven't done it yet. maybe sometime in the future.

 

Definitely fantasize about it, but I'm forced into it

 

Sounds intriguing. If it ever happens, please post it and tell us about it.

 

In brief, and not intended to come off as rude yet like many of the forced sex, rape threads and so on, how you imagine it to be and how it really is are two very different things.

Having come to grips with my life I'll just flat out state that I pretty much till I met my husband at 30 had only known dancing, and working as an escort with an occasional very low budget film thrown in here and there as my only options to survive when able to choose for myself......and I'm not talking here or there, yet since very young unfortunately.

In that time naturally I met many other people both male and female doing the same thing, and except for the very rare few, and I mean like 1 out of a thousand, none would of been working if they had another way.

In actuallity it IMLTHO is a VERY honorable profession. One that can actually change lives for the better of their customers, yet in kind comes at a very high cost to those working. I'm not speaking of a physical cost though that can be much of it, yet mental and emotional ones MOSTLY due to how this service is treated and viewed by most, even those very customers that benefit from it.

Lastly two points......You have those who work in such professions as they don't look for options or have some imagined idea of how it's going to be, yet in most cases are simply too lazy to do anything else. You then have those who are "professionals" in it, and that a world of difference. Secondly, in 20 years of working I not ONCE caught an STD. When young simply blind luck and fortunate odds that make the lottery seem like a sure thing. However, once back in the U.S. and making it a true profession, then it became a matter of paramount importance as a STD means you're not only sick, yet out of work, and will lose everything.

If speaking of "professionals" not those doing quick flops for a hoot or some other rediculous reason, the chance of you catching a STD from a professional is most likely 1,000 times less then sally joe you just picked up at the bar last night or that cute neighbor you've been dreaming of.

In the end however it's just like all fantasies and role play, as the second you take away choice for whatever reason, it takes on an entirely new context that takes away all the pleasure and fun you imagine.

Hush......an alias

 

Thanks for that first-hand perspective...

As others have said, it works much better as a fantasy than a reality, especially a reality that you feel trapped in. And I'm sure it must wear down a prostitute to be treated disrespectfully by the public as a whole, and even by some of her johns.

Ironic, isn't it, that some guys pay for a prostitute only to abuse her for BEING a prostitute?

 

I'm going to disagree with you on that. Having interviewed a ton of prostitutes for a graduate project (streetwalkers, escorts and brothel prostitutes), your statistic is about right for streetwalkers. For escorts and brothel prostitutes, the figure reflects far less who'd do something else if they could.

 

Really........ok well how bout this, ever consider they were "lying to you"? Sorry yet I've been there from all levels up to and including having up to roughly 40 gals at a time working for me give or take and how many of those you suppose that would be doing nothing else would never work it again if the right guy married them or a huge wad of cash fell in their laps.

Now I have had the rare gal (as I said) work for me, that 1 in a thousand....Proof of their "choice" often in the form of doing it for virtually any price, not a higher one.

If you want your investigation to ring true, get involved for a few years in the profession, then ask these same people who's trust you've gained. As telling a customer be it when working or them giving a survey what they want to hear is half the job.

Hush.......an alias

 

In retrospect I feel it's only fair to Caitlain I elucidate on my last response it rather vague if left as is....First off however I want to correct something, that being "having up to roughly 40 gals at a time working for me". That's wrong and against how I always tried to be with the gals that worked with me though with my guidance them having asked me for assistance. All were their own people at no ones calling. Unfair to them to say otherwise.

As to my response to Caitlain, though I don't doubt the responses you received, know that there comes a time either due to station in a society or simply in age, where you must resolve yourself to the path you have either chosen for yourself or fallen into.

Much of a professional's trials not coming in the form of dealing with others, yet in dealing with yourself. To betray the profession one thing, in fact in breaking away though you'll hear cheers of encouragement from the others, know they're half hearted in that it makes others feel as though "why can't I".

To betray yourself another thing however. If you for good or bad are now on that path, to simply make it from one day to the next you MUST lie......To yourself. To not, to even admit to self that this is NOT exactly what you want to be doing, means come tomorrow you may find it virtually impossible to do so. Show me a pro who became such for booze or dope, and I'll show you a professional who's time is an ever downward spiral and very short lived. Yet I can show you many a professional that betrayed themselves one time, did not stick by their decision and support themself, and those pros quite often find the booze or dope later to cope with that lack of self support.

The greatest "trick, flip or flop" a professional MUST do, in otherwords the greatest single performance of illusion they must ever give is to themselves and daily...........As if you don't you'll not have the strength, courage and self support to go on.

Your survey though anonymous, did not matter as to being the truth in their responses. What mattered to them was not betraying themselves, not backing themselves, not reinforcing their decision by answering your (to them) inconsequential in their lives poll, betraying themselves fully just so you could have an answer and get a grade.

Either way, no matter their answers it would never affect you........Yet their answers had far reaching ramifications for them.

You see, it's a little more complicated then yes or no....when it's your life.

Hush.......an alias

 

has anyone seen that showtime show secret diary of a call girl? I've fantasized about that a lot. mostly because i rarely get satisfaction from guys my age. but that's another rant for another thread. the thought of being paid to do something everyone does and loves is a dream but as many of said its just a fantasy and after i clear my head of dirty thoughts my mind races with what could go wrong and the danger of that kind of lifestyle. not only physically but mentally.

 

Yes, there's something hot about the idea of having a secret life as a high-priced call girl, while maintaining the persona of, say, a wealthy socialite the rest of the time. After all, they both require a lot of the same actress qualities. I think I might be able to get into that.

 

Thank you for making assumptions about the study. For your information, it wasn't "anonymous." It involved one-on-one interviews with the individuals, some of whom had been escorts or prostitutes for several years.

So it's okay for us to take you at your word, but not them, because their position on their work conflicts with how you believe it should be viewed? Please. The women had no reason to lie to me because the study had nothing to do with their work directly. It wasn't designed to ascertain whether they were happy about the work, or enjoyed the work, or anything like that. So they had absolutely no reason to lie or make up a position about the work itself.

It is terribly presumptuous for you to assume that because you didn't enjoy the work, that none of them do. There have been plenty of books written by prostitutes who enjoyed the work, there are tons of blogs written by women who enjoy the work, etc.

 

Wow hehe.....Ok, well lets see if I can demonstrate exactly what I said with something immediate and directly applicable to this conversation.

On the whole, many women tend to judge ourselves not so much sadly in how we perceive ourselves, yet in how others perceive us to be. It's important therefor that we project to others the image of either who we feel we are and want others to see us as. This may come in the form of look, actions we're willing to take, what we're willing to do, discuss, and even what opinions we'll openly voice as all of that and more sets the tone for how we are viewed by others, and therefor how we tend to view ourselves..........Now that sounds like a whole lot of negative, most especially to males it very often contradicting their value sets. Yet fact of the matter is it's not, it works for the average woman and therefor is proven in many ways. However it also lends itself to fighting for our beliefs right or wrong till the bitter end. In that way I/we have vindicated our beliefs and choices, and though seeming to do so for others is actually to do so for ourselves.

So lets consider all of the above posts for a moment. You state your survey was NOT done anonymously, yet instead in the form of face to face interviews. My statement as to it being anonymous giving the survey's credibility the benefit of the doubt in that then the person can say anything and NOT be judged directly (hence soiling the perception of others about them, be it one person (you) or many). At that point it falls back IF anonymous on that person simply trying to back up their own choices and situation, to themselves ONLY. By not being anonymous, even if only the interviewer knows, that person then besides risking the most important aspect of betraying themselves and their own choices being judged by another being you....No matter how you may say you won't, talk like you're all for it, in the end you knowing what they do they must now justify it to you as well.

You then try and twist this statement of mine being "though I don't doubt the responses you received, know that there comes a time either due to station in a society or simply in age, where you must resolve yourself to the path you have either chosen for yourself or fallen into."...........That has nothing to do about you, yet all those that have made any choice and stuck to it. In this case those working professionally in the sex trade. Right or wrong not the issue, it's being able to do what you do day in and day out.

That simple concept applies no matter what work anyone does. It doesn't matter if a burger flipper to the President, we all must do what we must to continue doing that we have no intentions of now changing our career paths. However, IF that career path involves scorn of others, in this case MOST others, then we must fight to support our decision to do so. We see this daily, and I don't care if it is the leader of a nation sending that country to war or bumping taxes, or Bob the petty thief having to justify to others why he is past being lazy, we do so. Lastly to that point if you being able to do your job entails convincing yourself, you don't run about stating the contrary to any and all you meet...............So we ALL try to impress to others what we do is right and justified no matter the reason, not just to sway their perception of us, yet our own.

People don't run about shouting to the world "I screwed up and intend on continuing to do so", in kind as to this subject run about stating "I choose gladly to suck sweaty cocks, basically "sell myself" on an hourly basis to have done with me what another wants for a minimal amount of money (and don't even argue that aspect as ask the average person how much they'd turn a trick for and it will most often be stated never to a million bucks or some rediculous fee.....), and be labled a whore by the masses, an outcast of 99% of society though that same society makes use of those services.

You then aggressively feeling your "knowledge" challenged state "So it's okay for us to take you at your word, but not them, because their position on their work conflicts with how you believe it should be viewed? Please.".......Ok well lets compare credentials.

You base your survey and therefor your "knowledge" on interviews, research and surveys you performed which I've already explained and just did again could be flawed based upon basic human nature.....Yours above plus further education though how much focussed upon this subject I can't say......Yet giving you the benefit of the doubt lets say you've invested 2 full years into this subject at roughly 10 hours per day, 5 days a week.

Now I'm not nearly as well educated as yourself, in fact, I could not even read or write till roughly 32 having had NO formal education in my life. However, I had an active 20 years, 24/7 working in the very profession you're discussing. Add to that another 13-14 though not actively working still involved with those in the profession. In that 33+ years I have personally known I would wager 10x+ the number of people you could of possibly interviewed and to such personal levels as being physically, mentally, and emotionally intimate with them that number I'd still wager surpassing your number of interviewees. We're not talking "streetwalkers" that term in itself more insulting then you realize in and of itself stating your level of experience with these folk, yet from those kept in absolute slavery as nothing short of a cumditch to those making 6 figures for a single act their clientel so situated.

Add to that my continued participation in the BDSM & Swinging lifestyles fully to a degree it is difficult for most to fathom so understanding many more non-monetary aspects of alternate sexuallity, and then top that off with 43 years of making it a point of survival, simply living among others and profession to learn how to read people it really being as serious as life and death............and that is how I determine the results of my life survey.

"It is terribly presumptuous for you to assume that because you didn't enjoy the work, that none of them do. There have been plenty of books written by prostitutes who enjoyed the work, there are tons of blogs written by women who enjoy the work, etc."

No hon, it is terribly presumptuous of you to think that because you sat down and spoke with someone absolutly detatched from the ramifications of that talk that you somehow could read the inner workings of their minds based upon "what you sought to prove out".

The primary job when working in the field is to create an illussion. An illussion of a woman (or man) wanting to be there, desperately wanting to be with you. Fully exposing themselves because of who you are, and oddly enough that self they expose is EXACTLY what you were looking for and needing at that moment.

The job is not sucking cocks, and spreading your legs....The job is making that person feel like there is nothing more you want to be doing that very moment, then the exact thing they want with them. It is 10 fold more mental then physical, and the better you are at that aspect the more successful you'll be in the profession.

SO let me ask you, why are you not flipping for dollars? In fact, why are all people not?

Now I'm in a unique situation. I lived the life we're discussing, then met a man who without exageration handed me the entire world on a silver platter. I'm not talking only the petty aspects such as things and money, yet knowledge, education, understanding of myself and others, even to the point of letting me speak with supposed true experts who's numeber of sheepskins and published works far exceeds any you'll find at a university. Yet most of all unconditional understanding and love.

I'm in a situation where I have nothing to prove, nothing to lose, and nothing to gain. All I have is the knowledge I've acquired in this area due to more years then most have lived that visit here in it. It benefits me not to share it, in fact it puts me at risk for scorn to do so. So in the end I have the luxury of being absolutly objective.



Perhaps your research would be better served listening to those that have been there...Instead of desperately trying to argue out what you know completely detached from the subject you choose to investigate.

In the end it sounds more as to trying to prove your single paper right and justifying "your" credibility on it, then learning about something you have no way of understanding be it due to your age, years looking into it, or detached research of it.


Show me one person in this field who will keep turning tricks if they suddenly became independantly wealthy as the money meant nothing in the first place......and I'll show you the 1% I mentioned above.

Hush........an alias

 

I'll show you just as many as you can show me of anyone doing anything who'd continue working at what they do if they suddenly became independently wealthy.

I'd reply to the rest of that if A) much of it made any sense, and B) it really mattered. There've been plenty of instances where prostitutes have indicated publicly (through books, blogs, media interviews, etc.) that they enjoy what they do. You rambling ad infinitum about your experiences can only apply to you, and no one else.

So, please, just hush.

 

This is one of my favorite fantasies or actually about a dozen fantasies.

My favorite I think is that I am a whore in a large whorehouse on Broadway in New York City. I work from noon when it opens each day until 4 AM, seven days a week when it closes sucking cocks. I sleep on the floor in back when it is closed. Since I never go out a remain naked all the time.

The place is like those places that show porn movies. They have little cubicles with clear plastic locking doors. Instead of porn movies, each cubicle has a naked girl kneeling. Guys buy a token and walk around looking at the girls. When I am selected, the guy deposits the token and the clear plastic door opens and the guy goes in to get sucked off.

The whole act takes about 5 minutes, During the busy hours, I suck and swallow about 10 guys an hour. I do about 120 guys a day and swallow about a half gallon of cum each day. The management lets me masturbate if no customer is waiting to be serviced.

It's not realistic but I have a lot of fun when no customer is waiting to be serviced.

Love,
lynn-nyc

 

I keep the fantasy of "Pretty Woman" in the front of my mind all the time, it's a wonderful story. It has "Nothing" to do with the reality of being on the street but I love the fantasy of being swept off my feet by a wealthy trick.